#transmasc if we are being specific

[dkettchen]

I've determined that my relationship to groups of straight men is I'm like a cute little monkey that can do tricks for them (ex. at a party at uni one time one of the guys brought like a 5kg(?) dumbbell from his room and had me try n lift it with my tiny E-based spaghetti arms, and when I labourously managed to they all cheered), or like- when I wanna say smth, they'll shush their other lads like "yo, shut up, the monkey's gonna talk! I wanna hear what it has to say!", like they don't sexualise me (cause issa monkey) but they're still endeared to me (cause is tiny and cute)

like you know those capuchin monkeys that people put in little outfits, that's what lads see when they look at me

it's giving freak show (affectionate) a little bit, but I think straight men not being interested in me while still being nice to me is possibly the best nonbinary deal I coulda gotten out of this

[pezpenser205]

the only reason tgirls get publicly called the freaky ones is bc of transmisogyny. i CURRENTLY know 4, thats Four. tguys who are into gore. (and theyre all awesome if that wasnt clear). completely by coincidence. not searching for them or meeting them in places where people who like guro and bloody stuff would hang out. just drawing out of a hat random they just show up and they get comfy enough to where it comes up

[waterme-stories]

Valentine Vuong is a transfemme they/them enby, I am not accepting criticism at this time 😇

[e77y]

I really want to like being a woman but I don’t. But I’m not dysphoric either; I like my body fine and I don’t want to change my voice or my mannerisms or even my pronouns really. So I don’t think I’m transmasc. Sometimes I just really wish I was born and raised a man. But it’s more of an “in another life” dream kind of thing. I think it’s just internalized misogyny idk

[rasairui]

Post: gender identity is complicated and everyone has their own unique relationship with it. Presentation does not equal gender and not everyone likes strict labels!

Me: Yeah! True! This is great so far please don't turn this into-

Post: I will now use this as an excuse to obsessively list every possible way in which a lesbian ends up with a man. I will equate butches and gnc women to men, completely missing my own point when I said presentation doesn't equal gender. Also being transmasc is always the same as being male aligned btw. I'm going to find a way to fit dissociative identity disorder into this for some reason. I'm also going to be really condescending and talk like no lesbian has ever understood the concept of gender noncomformity, ambiguity and complex relationships to gender. No, I never talk this way about gay men and nblm why do you ask

[karinyosa]

i can't go into the tag rn bc i'll get spoilers but the other show i'm going insane about is blue eye samurai and oh my god. the scene where mizu has a flashback to the fight w taigen while watching a threesome. my god

[erotomox]

apparently this needs to be said:

friendly reminder that I am not transmasc! Please do not refer to me as such! That is misgendering!

[dayurno]

does anyone have any fun trans kevin hcs??? ive been thinking about it lately. why are all hot boys from 🏳️‍⚧️

[malhare-archive]

I don't do discourse here anymore I SWEAR but the thing that will always drive me crazy is people insisting that trans men do not face a specific intersection of oppression like trans women do. There are issues specific to trans men whether you like to admit it or not lol

[nightmarish-fallen-angel]

hey if literally hundreds of people are interpreting your post a certain way, then maybe you DID imply some things you didn't say. the entire purpose of the post is to complain that there are people who say "transmascs need to unpack their internalized misogyny" and you need to take a step back and realize that isn't a good look no matter how you explain it

I don't believe this is true primarily because the "transandrophobia discourse" that goes against transandrophobia states that the very term/concept means transmascs don't believe transmisogyny exists (which is not true). And the primary people who reblogged that post with the addition everyone is replying to do believe that.

So I struggle to believe that it was taken in good faith.

I did write the post in anger and I wasm't as clear as I would have liked, but I still stand by the argument that constantly singling out the transmasc community as being more prevalent with issues of misogyny or internalized misogyny is wrong.

[wild-at-mind]

If you ever see me becoming one of those transmisandry people, please fucking call me out immediately.

[anendoandfriendo]

Convo that literally just happened —

Us: "Equinox is an awesome name!"

Coworker: "That's a car. Thats a Chevvy car."

Us: ":0 We just meant the spring? equinox but that's like 1000% better as an assumption. " *Mascs our genders*

[atticus-lalond3]

Man I wish it wasn't classified as transphobic to bring up that a lot of trans women [in my local community] still sort of see trans men as less than. Talking bad about our music, putting down our accomplishments, even saying our jobs are transphobic for hiring us and not them. Transandrophobia is real and i experience is most often from the transfems I know personally.

EDIT: THIS POST WAS A VENT ABOUT MY LOCAL COMMUNITY'S LOUDEST VOICES

THIS POST IS NOT TERF SAFE

I made this post when I had 0 followers and I literally made this as a vent/hate/bitching blog. I was explicitly talking about the loudest and most well-connexted voices in the local community. In the local community, we have two very loud and well-connected trans women who have:

Explicitly called jobs who hire primarily trans people transphobic (reason: they didn't hire them)

Called all transmasc music bitching and whining

When i mentioned a relationship I recently entered, one of the women looked me in the eyes and said 'please tell me he's at least trans'

She also put down fellow trans women's achievements. One time, she (a passing trans woman who had been on E for several years) said that another trans woman (pre-everything) was 'privileged' over her because 'she passes better so all she had to do was ask and she got her birth certificate changed' (the woman in question had a lot of help from her also trans gf to accomplish this)

Claimed another trans woman was privileged over her because the OTHER trans woman (unrelated to the one from the previous point) had a better scholarship than her (this woman had spent time in the military to afford college and had been almost driven to suicide by her family after coming out)

Constantly publicly bullied trans men in ways that were 'acceptable' (making fun of their bodies, their dyed hair, calling names, the classic 'theyfab' stuff) and accused others of being transphobic if called out to the point that the local trans community was heavily divided into a transfem community vs a quieter, more personal transmasc community

These things matter because:

She founded most local community things

She organized like every protest

She had the loudest trans voice in the city

Literally everyone knew her

She held a lot of influence over younger trans women

So like. Yeah. It was a specific to me issue. I should have worded it better. If I had known this would blow up, I would have.

[nixisverytired]

Please stop forgetting nonbinary people!

Theyfab isn't a transmasc-specific slur. It's always been used against any nonbinary person assumed to be AFAB.

Though the AGAB of nonbinary people is nobody's business in the first place, it bears repeating that not every AFAB nonbinary person is transmasculine, just as not every AMAB nonbinary person is transfeminine.

These bigots aren't just transphobic towards trans men/mascs, they're exorsexist as well. We'll be stronger if we stick up for each other and push back against them together!

Edit: Just to make it clear, theyfab is being used against transmascs as well! I just want people to also acknowledge the non-transmasc nonbinary people being hurt.

[genderqueerdykes]

i think that people forget that the transtrender thing from a few years ago predominantly effected and targeted transmascs. treating us like we were girls who just wanted to feel special. i honestly could not give you any examples off the top of my head of transfems being called trenders. im sure it must've happened at some point, but all of the "this is a normal trans person. and this is a WEEEIRRRRD TRENDERRRR who thinks that boys don't have to wear bras uwu i don't have to shave my legs :3 blue hair he/they/xe/it and if you don't use my one thousand neopronouns you're transphobic!!!!!!!!" stuff was so so so so obviously pointing towards transmascs.

and then we got out of it for a bit! things improved! transmascs started becoming comfortable with being gnc again! trans people in any direction started playing with neopronouns and mogai terms!

and now we're right back where we were before. not only that, but it feels so much worse. back then, i had enough confidence to puff my chest out and say "actually yeah! i wanna take pride in my neopronouns! i wanna dye my hair weird colors! i wanna have a billion neogenders! and if you don't like it, you can bite me!"

but now it isn't just attacking "surface level" things. it's attacking the very CONCEPT of being transmasc. i didn't have to seriously consider going back in the closet when the trender stuff started. but i have now. on multiple occasions. it's just so tiring. i have no idea how people think that trans men are somehow more privileged. it feels like we keep getting kicked down as soon as we find a new community to just exist in. im so fucking tired, man.

-TB

oh wow, true, i forgot about that. damn i haven't thought about that term in quite a while but you are very right. while i'm sure there were and are transfems affected by it, there's no denying that the bulk of the targets were explicitly transmascs and trans men. like, i'm almost certain the term was coined specifically to harass and misgender transmascs and trans men.

people have been erasing and being horrific to trans men and mascs for decades, they just keep changing hats and making up new terms. thank you for pointing this out, i really appreciate it. trans men are not inherently any more privileged than anyone else, especially if they're closeted, no transition, pre transiton/early transition, intersex, a person of color and so on. people just go out of their ways to punch laterally on trans men and mascs and it's so old. we don't have it better than any other type of trans person just because we are men and mascs. it doesn't make our lives any easier- it just gets harder after we come out. same as everyone else.

take care of yourself! thank you for sending this ask, i really appreciate you.