#toh s3e2

[mosovi-vian]

And I will stay alive for my future self, so they can one day learn to be kind to who I was as a child. And I will teach them to honor who we used to be, so they can remember the comfort of what once was our untempered flesh and gentle soul. Me and myself are each a fresh wound and a rough scab, bearing respectively the gift of green faith and honed will.

This has been in my draft for a while because I was determined to post this only after I knew what I should write underneath it. I’ve read a lot on the concept of healing the wounded inner child since even before my c-ptsd diagnosis. However, I’ve sought as much comfort in my little self as they had in me. Looking back, I was an impressively emotionally-intuitive kid. I remember well how I used to think, the things I would write to my future self; they were wiser and gentler than I could ever hope to be as an adult. Needless to say, the little poem above is inspired by the aforementioned experience. Sure, big me is armed with a more developed pre-frontal cortex and access to invaluable resources (coping mechanisms, therapy, on and offline communities) , but I struggle to rediscover/reinvent my identity. Little me was the biggest vestige of my lost personhood. So yeah, this might be just a huge self-indulgent projection with my favorite character, but thinking that post-S3 Hunter would also be in my shoes is not completely baseless. 16yrs old Hunter is the fresh wound (a lot of things happened before his teen years, but I’m going to interpret the events of Hollow Mind - which happened when Hunter was 16 - as the ultimate boiling point in his trauma timeline, hence the ‘fresh wound') and 20yrs old Hunter is the rough scab. Each version of Hunter could be dealing with a different set of trauma-induced symptoms. I think his loyalty to Belos kept him going as a child. Being doubtless was important to Hunter back then; it held his sense of self together. And maybe when he survived and was rewarded the time and space to grow into his own person and live for himself, there was this lasting emptiness. I feel this sort of emptiness even today. My only reference of what ‘wholeness’ felt like was when I was obedient to my family. I equated self-abandonment as the righteous norm. The symptoms I deal with today are definitely different from when I was Hunter’s age pre-time-skip. Now that Hunter is in a safe space and an adult post-time skip, he might also need to seek that strength from his younger self. Reminding himself of how far he’s come and the parts of him that he'd like to keep from his past. The parts that he knows in his bones are purely his - not instilled by Belos, not inherited from Caleb.

[lunaeclipse1057-ao3]

This is the animated moment of all time

[lampmanliveblogs]

on the topic of Luz and snakes and foreshadowing, take a closer look at the show title card....

The show title card? Well, I got a few ones...

Season 1...

Season 2...

And two different ones for season three thus far.

...I don't get it. I don't see any snakes? Unless... is the owl supposed to also look like a snake? Cause I don't really see it?

[hyenasnake]

⚠️Lads this is “For The Future” all over again⚠️

Remember how S3E2 of the Owl House got “accidentally” leaked on Apple Music a week or so before it was supposed to air? And it’s no surprise that Disney Execs HATED TOH and HATED that it was their most popular DTVA show of all time?

This is the exact same thing

If I had to guess, this is in retaliation to Neil’s support of the Writer’s Strike because Jeff Bezos is an absolute scumbag of a human being who refuses to pay his workers properly.

What can we do?

We do what the TOH fandom did. We shut up about it in public, don’t repost it or harass Neil or anybody. On July 28th, we come out in DROVES and watch the series. Show them that we support Neil and the crew. And of course, support the Writer’s Strike.

[hikaaa-bi]

i hate the whole "the show was cancelled" excuse that toh fans constantly use to justify poor writing choices. i'm as upset as anyone that toh was cut short, but the show writers got an advantage that a lot of other shows didn't. they were allowed to actually end the show. look at infinity train, for example. it had more seasons planned but the execs decided to cancel it without even giving the creators time to write a proper ending.

so in that case, the writers of toh should consider themselves lucky and make do with what they have. of course, it's most ideal to have the freedom to write the entire show how you want. but when you can't do that but you're allowed to give the series a proper resolution, you have to pick and choose what plot points to focus on.

instead of focusing on the important arcs and plot points (belos's backstory, the collector's origin, hunter's arc, etc) the writers decided to add completely unnecessary ships and additions to further complicate the plot. i'll say it: huntlow was unnecessary, the whole hexside and kikimora thing in s3e2 was unnecessary, the collector's rushed redemption arc was unnecessary. in fact, some of these decisions actively affected the ongoing plot badly (huntlow ruining hunter's arc and bringing him back to square one).

in the end, you're left with more questions than answers. what's with the collector's sudden switch from evil and calculating to poor innocent uwu child? what actually happened in belos's past? how did hunter move on from his trauma without getting any closure and being paired with a person who acts a lot like his controlling uncle? why did amity forgive luz so quickly for lying to her after she asked her not to? what happened to all the witches and citizens of the demon realm who actually followed and worshipped belos?

so yeah, you really can't defend toh with this excuse. if i was making a show and was forced to cut it short, i'd be angry and upset, sure. but i'd try to make the best of it. i would focus on the main plot instead of going after side characters or ships that add nothing of importance to the plot. i still like this show a lot but i'm not going to blindly defend it. it has its flaws and they need to be critiqued.

[defendingtheowlhouse]

hey, really appreciate your discussions! i definitely think toh has some flaws but people overexaggerate them and point to other things as being the issue. it's nice to see someone not starting an angry argument lol. what's your opinion on people blaming Disney shortening the series for all of the writing issues? i think that while Disney execs were definitely a large part of it, some of the blame also falls to the writers, especially for season 3. i feel like s3e2 was too slow and focused on characters we don't care about as much, taking time away from the main cast, while s3e3 felt super rushed. i feel like the writers could have managed their time better, maybe spending less time on boscha + kiki + hexside kids in the second episode and dealt with the collector, and then dealt with belos in the 3rd episode? season 3 just kinda feels like it was handled poorly.

also, who's ur favorite character and what's your favorite season?

Thank you!!

In regards to how people discuss the shortening, I think it's complicated and not just 100% because of the shortening or 100% because of writing alone most of the time. Like look at Gus and his overall development. It's quite lacking, and I think this is in large part due to how what they planned to do with the gaulderstones was cut, I feel that should be acknowledged while also acknowledging the fact that they could've tried more to develop him a little more by using there time wisely.

For For The Future, I honestly see it as a saying goodbye to the more minor characters and locations, kind of like a goodbye and while I do think the time could be used better I'd like to acknowledge that it's a nice thought.

For Watching And Dreaming, I felt it too. It just felt like they built everything up a bit too much and didn't give themselves enough breathing room to wrap things up.

My favourite character is Hunter, and my favourite season is definitely season two.

[thefakehedgehogaroundhere]

working on the voice claim video featuring @totaleclipse573 's luz tangle headcanon (that we coincidentally share!!!) i'm doing that one scene in toh s3e2 where kikimora shows up and luz roasts the fuck outta her, because i feel like that's a good interaction between tangle and surge also i headcanon surge to sound like spinel and kikimora's voice is VERY close to that

[jamgrlsart]

“You’re growing up to fast for me, kiddo.”

Mama Eda and King Clawthorne in For the Future (screencap redraw, toh S3E2)

[raichu2001-us]

(practice animation) toh s3e2 huntlow (oh wow) scene

[watery-melon-baller]

as promised here are a few charts (this is not all of them) (im still not done I have more charts im working on)

ships over a 6 month period. lumity keeps skewing my data because it has an insane amount of fics which is great but also very annoying

this might not be 100% accurate due to there being overlap in fics that share the same tag but the other category is all of the gen fics. itheres like 9.5k gen fics, and 12k lumity fics. incredible.

now these next 3 graphs are a bit weird so lemme explain: I graphed how many fics with X tag were created in Y time period, and I did two of these. the purple line goes by 6month time periods, while the red line goes by fandom time (aka hiatuses and length of seasons). once the show ended (s3e3) then I just switched to 6 month periods. the red line on all 3 of these graphs is always the hiatus time line. the light blue vertical lines are the hiatus graaph times and the dark teal lines are the 6month graph times (and also the fic graph times). i know its confusing to look and I am sorry <3

anyways this one here is lumity! once again dominating the charts and skewing my data. very interesting how there's a decrease in fics during the first half of the year! my current theory is that its a mixture of a lot of toh episodes airing later in the year and schools getting out in late may/june so now people have time to actually sit down and write fic. very funky!

this one is the raeda graph. dont have too much 2 say about this one but its funky how similar this and the huntlow one are! i think the reason why it looks like there's a big spike In popularity on the hiatus graph is related to how its suddenly a 6 month period so more time = more fic.

here is the huntlow data! i have no fucking clue whats going on with it man. the hiatus one is doing its own thing. interesting how both the 6month raeda and 6month huntlow peak around the time S3E2 came out. not sure whats up with that tbh. really don't know why huntlow drastically drops because S3E2 had great huntlow moments?? who knows. again I'm not a data scientist I'm sure there's people who know how to analyze this and draw conclusions I'm just doing this for funsies. feel free to share ur thoughts/hypothesis below I LOVE 2 chat about this its so interesting to me :3

lads im graphing out the ao3 ship data and it's fucking wild to see

[phddyke]

This line…oh man. This one line encapsulates so much. It’s brilliant. I’m so glad they put this in there.

[chaosincarnates-stuff]

sketches AND a huntlow meme (made by me😎)

(colored version of possessed hunter on my page)

[milledraws]

give these kids a break PLEASE

[lampmanliveblogs]

tomorrow...

[mosovi-vian]

Tired.

Season 3 only made birdman even more special to me. I see myself a lot in Hunter, and while it could just be me projecting I really think his behavior in the past two specials reflects where I am in my own healing journey. The one step forward two steps back then two step forward one step back part of his recovery stage in life hits home. I guess this is vent art?? Abuse recovery is a bitch, and new trauma can always form even when you're making progress. I think that's why Flapjack's death really stuck with me. This is a time in Hunter's life when resiliency is especially needed, and I'm glad that Willow and his friends will be there to support him through it. This character has given me a lot of insight into my own past experiences and inspires me to reach out to find my people in the world, and I cannot thank Dana and the crew enough for the show.

[lunaeclipse1057-ao3]

Another animated moment of all time

This is the animated moment of all time