#tnbc headcanons

[retropineapple]

Oogie Boogie may be massive,but he would probably be light as hell. I mean, he's a bunch of bugs (primarily, there's at least on snake in there so there's also probably a lot of other creepy crawly creatures) in huge ass fucking burlap sack. On average, bugs only way like 3 milligrams, or 0.000007 pounds. Even if though there's probably 10,000 bugs in there, at least, based on that average that'd only be 0.07 pounds (not including the weight of the burlap).

Bro would weigh probably like 15 pounds 😭

Aside from, again, being massive, he would be so fucking easy to pick up lolllll

[thetownwecallhome]

TNBC Shower Thought #something: Jally is Asexuality (on this blog)

((OOC:

in the waning hours of Pride month, because I got really heated and fandom petty for no good reason and because I want to do something now (not that Pride is ever actually over, of course…), I wanna give you guys and updated rundown of how Jack and Sally were not only my first otp but how they sorta helped me be comfortable in my asexuality. Sorta. Kinda. Also I thought I had already written about this topic somewhere on this blog but I guess not.

--CW: no minors allowed, none of this gets graphic but I’m talking about my bodily autonomy stuff--

My sister getting really into TNBC and so myself by proxy was a turning point in my childhood. As a wee child I never actually finished watching the movies I liked, so the fact that Jack and Sally were an item always escaped me except for the merchandise which made it clear. As a budding 8-12 year old, finally watching it all the way through it was overwhelmingly sweet to have the movie end as it did. As (I think) mentioned by me and definitely others before, Jack is Sally’s ‘reward’ of sorts. Sally and Jack are not a couple in the movie they just hook up at the end, Sally just so happens to also be pining for Jack while also trying to stop him. Her song ends on the note that she has no expectation that Jack can or would be able to notice her; which is what makes it so gosh darn sweet that dummy problematic hero-antagonist Jack DOES notice Sally at last and realizes how important she is. It's the most adorable thing in the world. To be honest it still kinda is.

I was just starting puberty and it was the most romantic, most wonderful way in the world to end the movie. They were my original OTP. Sally stayed true to herself and was not only validated but got herself that himbone she wanted, and Jack learned he was being a jerk to his town, Santa and to Sally and the latter realization made him fall in love with her! Yeah it’s a rushed ending and not the height of writing, but it was such a good send off to the story. 

After that, it didn’t take long for me to develop other OTPs. Especially as I hit puberty I realized that some of my favorite couples were more sensual and intimate than others. I liked that sexual aspect and overflow of everything romantic in them as I still do today. I express what sexual interest I have through my -adult character- pairings. And by that I mean I really don’t/can’t see myself being sexual with another person or even a character. Even my OCxCanon ships aren’t made with the vibe of “mmmgod I want 1 from 9 soooo badly!” as much as I wanted someone to ship 1 with.

Shipping, to me, feels like I’m some cruel god of love and death; making up a billion scenarios for my shaps. That or a god of love and death who likes creeping on my shaps while they’re being intimate. I don’t know if this is the way other asexual/aroace people go about exploring their own sexuality, but it is mine. I’m sexual, not sex repulsed, but only in a way that’s comfortable for me and me alone and that I don’t want to be sharing that with other people. I don’t want people to see my smexual art made for just myself, not just because it’d probably bore some of you (I kin Speckle from Tuca and Bertie so hard with his 'boring wholesome porn'), but because I don’t want another person waning in on that intimacy. That’s my intimacy. For me. Just for me. I don’t think I’ll ever want a sexual partner.  Writing about the ships is enough for me sexual-interest wise…for most of my ships, anyway....

As I got back into TNBC through this blog, I tried doing the “okey now they get intimate”-card with Jack and Sally and it just feels…wrong to me? I can blush and be all flustered and talkative about any of my couples and favorite character -even the ones who don’t canonically have junk I don’t think- being all smexy and lovey-dovey. I can go on forever about the jokes to be made about ALL my other favorite character ships…but not JackxSally. For a while I just thought it was me just not being uncomfortable with characters from my early childhood being in a sexual context…but that doesn’t make sense cause my earliest favorite character in my memory has always been Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast and we ALL KNOW how sexual he is. I don’t find Jack and Sally physically unappealing, at least anymore than my -again- other fav characters who I picture getting intimate with each other.

Not to accidentally tease and/or show off that boring only-for-my-own-pleasure artwork and writing, but I unironically, um, made art of Frankenberry and Count Chocula. I like monsters and no not just the ones that look human mostly. My metric for what is and isn’t “attractive” is all over the place so long as all parties are consenting non-related adults. A character is attractive and 'sexual' to me if I happen to find the character appealing in that sense. You can talk all day about any other Burton/Selick/Stop-Motion pair and the antics they get up to or how hot they are as people. Whether or not I’m into it I go “yeah that tracks for Beetlejuice. Why would I expect any different from him?” 

Jack and Sally’s love is not -supposed to be- “pure” or “childish”, but it is 100% not sexual to me. After years of trying to make them sexual but somehow also never stopping in shipping them, I find them the two most actively sexless characters I can imagine. 

And, not gonna lie, something that spurns that on A LOT is the way some of ya’ll have tried to fight me on this over the years about how they can’t be ace: 

-“But Sally is designed to be sexy and Jack is an OG tumblr sexyman.” 

“Attractive”people do not have to be sexual people. I headcanon Roger and Jessica Rabbit to be ace too, btw. We all know that their form of intimacy is hijinx and pattycake, so WHY NOT Jally?

Sally is fixated on Jack but never in a leering way (which is good!) and while she may use her leg to entice Oogie, she just doesn’t seem like a very sexual person to me. Also, what’s that implying? Because she was made to be Dr. Fink’s sexylamp/girlfriend that she HAS TO BE sexual herself?

Jack, beyond his manchild himbo-isms, never strikes me as someone who gets around despite knowing that ladies in Halloween Town are into him. If anything he acts throughout the movie like someone averted to romance until the very end when he falls in love in the most Jack Skellington way imaginable.

-“If you think they aren’t sexual then why do they share a bed in your work?”

What is this Haze-code nonsense? Are queen and king-sized beds inherently places for banging and nothing else? You DO KNOW there are asexual people in real life who share beds, right? You know; because regardless of whatever you guys do for intimacy it’s just a good feeling to be close and with the person you love even when you’re sleeping? Because non-sexual cuddling exists and aroace people don’t like sex but they can love spooning, right? I hope you know that, especially for cases of platonic and familial love, where young children sleep in their parents/siblings beds for comfort. I hope, for everyone’s sake, that you aren’t Lily Orchard-ing all platonic love and asexual love into things they shouldn’t be… 

To be clear I don’t think you are, but the way some of you talk about this issue…it just makes me peeved. 

-“But they have kids according to the original/uncut ending of the soundtrack.” 

DOES THE CONCEPT OF ‘STORKS THAT DELIVER BABIES’ SERIOUSLY NOT EXIST IN A FANTASY SETTING?

Especially since we’re talking about one where abstract childhood thoughts are living beings with their own worlds like in Nightmare? How uncreative that is, sns. I like sensual fandom and sensual shipping stuff all the time but Sally and Jack are not Simba and Nala or Morticia and Gomez, i.e. children’s media characters who we know get up to non-children friendly stuff. Also, especially since one of them is a confirmed science-creation (discounting the book that shall not be named in God’s House), can ya’ not even concede the idea of literally ‘creating’ children? 

TL;DR: I don’t like to think of Jack and Sally’s nonexistent junk and yeah I am a little squicked out at the idea of you mentioning it. Stick to Sans from Undertale or Francesca from Mad Monster Party when we’re talking horny skeletons or Frankenstein-dolls, please. It’s what our lord and savior Onceler intended. 

Like myself, Jack and Sally have their own love, companionship and non-sexual intimacy. If I had to assign a sexuality to them in my work, it would be demi-asexuals. They are two dorks in love with and married to their best friend who’s also their closest confidant. They are a scarecrow bone-man and human-sized leaf doll.

Let them share a bed and a house without them being married in peace. No really. Please do that, Disney. Stop having Sally bamf off or still live with Dr. Finkelstein. That's weird. ))

[emmastraub3]

Zero when he realised Sally was there.

[emberlynn-sapphire-anarchy-angel]

FOR MY HONEST OPINION, I BELIEVE BELOS IS ALREADY THERAPRISM FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. ALSO MAYBE MINA, THE MAGIC HIGH COMMISION, AND DOMINATOR FOR REASONS...BUT I'D LIKE TO READ YOUR OPINIONS ON WHICH DISNEY TVA VILLAIN COULD OR SHOULD ALSO BE IN THERAPRISM

[tnbc-thoughtsandheadcanons]

Disney Magic Kingdoms giving me more headcanons here, but - I *love* the idea of ‘Halloween gifts’! What if that's how Halloween Town gave each other presents before Christmas? They’d traditionally give each other gifts on Halloween....

[leilabella0505]

[scientistservant]

Nightmare Before Christmas Headcanons #1

Jack Skellington has been Pumpkin King ever since the pagan festival Samhain came to be in the eighth century. He'd fend off wicked spirits from his harvest in his small village. This little village grew over the centuries to be Halloween Town, after many ventured across the Halloween realm to praise Jack for his bravery and fright. Jack wears his Pumpkin King attire every Halloween to celebrate how far he and his village has come.

The Halloween realm as a whole is forever frozen between the mid-19th century to the early-20th century. No televisions or smart-phones here! Only radio, phonographs, and rotary phones.

When not used for important town meetings, the Town Hall becomes a theatre for stage shows. People from all over the Halloween realm come to put on wondrous performances. Don’t worry if you’re unable to make a live show; each one is recorded and played weekly on the radio via reruns!

Jack and the Town Band have joined together to bring you spine-tingling, foot-tapping songs to boogie to by radio and phonograph! The band's name? Oingo Boingo. It was believed that the dastardly Oogie Boogie once had a part to play in this, but neither Jack nor the other band members will confirm nor deny this claim. There have been rumours that Oingo Boingo’s music has made its way to the human realm, and given new ownership by a creature simply known as Elf-man.

[rainbowfunks]

quick 15 min doodle of one of my fav headcanons :)

[disneynerdpumpkin]

Descendants OC time! (so far anyway lol)

(Keep in mind that their profiles aren't entirely finished; some of them I haven't fully developed yet, but this is them in general)

Penelope (daughter of Pinocchio and Alice) Penelope always smells of wood and paint, and always has fresh sawdust on her apron from carving; she is very artsy and loves sketching and painting, as well as reading books. (Her grandfather Geppetto taught her how to carve when she was younger, and now she loves creating and making things.)

She is much like her father (happy-go-lucky, etc), but she is also mature for her age. She is 14 years old.

She is also a dancer (mainly dances ballet, contemporary, and tap).

Her nickname is Ellie, and her favorite snack is warm cinnamon rolls.

Penelope Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/16pKoxC

Sophie (daughter of Stromboli) Sophie is a dancer and a gymnast, and loves performing. Like her father, she has a bit of a temper when she gets angry (but not as much).

She loves listening to music, and she loves wearing blouses. She is 14 years old.

Sophie Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/7s02Kxm

Chrissy (daughter of the Coachman) Chrissy and her father are almost polar opposites. She owns a small whip that her father has gifted her, she has vowed to herself never to use it to beat animals (she loves animals and would never treat them cruelly); she only uses it to practice whip-cracking tricks. Her eyes sometimes flash green when she's angry.

She is 15 years old.

Chrissy loves animals; she has taken in a baby donkey, which she has named Posy. (the Coachman was going to leave Posy to die, as he didn't need any more donkeys at the moment; Chrissy started to care for her)

(Chrissy w/green eyes) ↑

Chrissy Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/7rClPo2

Evelyn (daughter of The Blue Fairy) Evelyn is half-fairy, half-human. She is a rebel, and very sarcastic. She provides the dark humor in her friend group. Evelyn is very kind and supportive of her friends, despite being sarcastic. Despite magic not being used in Auradon, she uses her magic often; using her wand made from sapphire.

She is 16 years old, and loves black leather clothing (she thinks they make her look tough and cool); she also loves chocolate

Evelyn w/wings ↑

Evelyn Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/1TNx96G

Petunia (daughter of Lampwick -and Tiger Lily-) Requested/inspired by @casinotrio1965 (shared OC)

Petunia is the young daughter of Lampwick and Tiger Lily. She loves playing pool (and even has a custom billiards cue stick that her father bought for her) and is really good at it. She loves comfy clothes, and her favorite drink is warm ginger tea with honey and lemon.

Petunia's favorite color is lavender, and her second favorite color is green. She loves floral scented candles. (I apologize, I could only find a darker lavender in Gacha and not a lighter one lol)

She also does a bit of yoga as a way to relax and to keep in shape.

She is 14 years old.

Petunia Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/26PUsAF

Madelyn Hatter (daughter of the Mad Hatter) Everyone calls her Maddy/Maddie for short. Much like her father, she loves unbirthday celebrations and tea parties, and she's a child at heart. She loves to make her friends smile and help them out on their bad days. Maddy loves peach tea (especially iced teas), and her favorite snacks are jammie dodgers.

Maddy is 15 years old.

In her free time she sometimes likes to practice magic tricks (like card tricks); she's not very good at it though, but she tries anyway.

Maddy w/ her glasses ↑

Maddy Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/5eKcSLR

Sabrina Skellington (daughter of Jack and Sally Skellington) Sabrina loves practicing scaring tactics; her father teaches her scaring tactics and strategies. She's very confident, and often has her hair tied back in some way, shape, or form.

Her favorite candy is candy canes; she also has pyrokinesis (like her father). She loves Christmas, and it's her favorite holiday.

Sabrina is 15 years old.

Sabrina Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/3PZe4mn

Jacqueline Skellington (daughter of Jack and Sally Skellington) Jackie for short. She is introverted; she is a writer and loves to sketch, and loves reading. Like her mother, Jackie is a very talented seamstress and loves to sew. She also loves to make teas and potions.

She is 15 years old.

She loves wearing sweaters, and occasionally listening to relaxing ASMR.

She totally isn't Sandy Claw's favorite among Jack's kids

Jackie Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/5kDdJa5

Sterling Skellington (son of Jack and Sally Skellington) Sterling is 16 years old, and he is on the tourney team at Auradon Prep. He loves modeling men's clothing that Jackie sews (he especially loves the patchwork jacket he received as a Christmas present one year).

Sterling also loves playing some video games, and enjoys attempting to teach Zero new tricks.

Sterling Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/Di0FV4N

Bella (daughter of Oogie Boogie) Bella is crazy about anything neon/glow-in-the-dark; like her father, she loves gambling games and risk. (Her favorite game is dominoes)

She loves jazz music, and is a jazz dancer; she loves listening and dancing to show tunes. She also does some theater.

Oogie Boogie has gifted her a pair of dice.

Bella is 15 years old, and is a humanoid with burlap skin (but not filled with bugs, like her father is). Sometimes her friends call her Boogie Boogie.

Bella Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/MyQTE3p

Princeton Hoffman (son of Captain Phillip Hoffman/The Nutcracker and Clara Stahlbaum) He is a ballet dancer, and is on the tourney team; he is very strong physically, and athletic. Once Princeton becomes close friends with someone, he becomes very protective of them.

His favorite season is winter; he thinks it's very beautiful and no matter how old he gets, he loves to play in it.

Princeton is 15 years old.

Princeton Pinterest aesthetic board: https://pin.it/7hrtU6e

[ponds-of-ink]

Hmm. Any random Flash info that you could share that hasn't been already?

<Incorrect-FNaF-Quotes

There’s one important piece of info that I haven’t covered, but that’s in an ask that I haven’t finished answering yet. Stay tuned for that one (even though it may or may not have been hinted at already— I’m not sure).

Anyway, here’s some more random facts that I haven’t touched on yet.

(1) Her hair is a mood indicator, depending on how bright (or, sometimes, how long) it is. If it’s very bright, then she’s very happy. If it’s very dull, then she’s either really bored or really sad. If it seems to be more red than usual and it also looks like she could trip over it while running, then I suggest you run.

(2) Sometimes she’s had “visions” of a little ghost girl running around her house, often when she was sleep-deprived or just unwell. Her most recent ‘encounter’ was when she stayed up too late studying Christmas itself. She shrugs it off and just assumes that it’s the last owners of the house haunting the place… Even though she’s never seen Rattle-Bones’ ghost.

(3) Speaking of ghosts, she doesn’t own a ghost dog because they’re very hard to find in this Halloween Town. The only citizen that has a ghost dog is one of the Chica-type birds.

(4) She spends most of her Halloween prep time supervising and double-checking plans for that year’s celebration. There’s a lot to go over, so she tries to make it fun for herself.

(5) During her Christmas studies, she read A Christmas Carol in less that two hours. Yes, the original book with the five long chapters. She didn’t get much out of it, given her objective, but she did think it was interesting.

(Bonus) I’m this close to thinking that almost all of her songs are canonically diegetic, with the exception of “Jack’s Obsession” and “Poor Jack”. Those two are just internal monologues we get to see play out. Regardless, she usually has no problem singing and using that singing to get her emotions out.

The Town Meeting Song might also fall into this category of “it’s just dialogue”, but y’all can debate on that.

[emmastraub3]

Jack and Sally

[dshret]

what does Skully think of the Mayor? is there any place in Halloween Town he doesn't want to go alone? does Skully play with Zero?

At his current age, Skully does not mind the Mayor even if he personally wishes that there could be just a single day in-between the Halloween celebrations and the planning for next year. But ultimately, he enjoys talking with someone also enthusiastic about Halloween and has a flair for dramatics whilst simultaneously being highly impressed that the Mayor can constantly be delivering the townsfolk despite his insistence he's just an elected official. However, as a child Skully was deathly afraid of him to the point of hiding away when the Mayor came around to speak with Jack about next years plans. There was just something terrifying about the fact he has two faces that spun around that, despite living in the beyond unnatural town, Skully couldn't help be afraid of then.

And in Halloween Town, he goes about anywhere he can. Often hiding away around spiral hill, once going missing in the Hinterlands when he was five, the town square. Even sometimes visiting the lab to learn things. Yet, he absolutely will never go anywhere around Boogie's lair even if accompanied by someone. At most, he'd walk close with his father but never step inside. He always has a stomach churning feeling that never goes away when near it.

Zero, however, is his friend. Skully would use best friend but he works under the view that by technicality Zero is not his dog specifically. As a small boy, he'd go off playing in the graveyard with the ghost dog really acting as a way to ensure that he was safe alone. He can't play fetch with his own ribs, but he always finds something on the ground that works almost the same. At his current age, Skully instead gets Zero's opinions on his own Halloween plan sketches or decorations he makes (once coming to terms mentally with his own feelings for the holiday) though its mostly just getting a yip or a nudge here and there.

[erifefism]

i love how people either on reddit or tumblr or tiktok, they headcanon mammon as oogie boogie yet they think that asmodeus was voice-inspired by oogie boogie😭 its so funny lmfao

[demonangelgirl134]

The LGBTQ love headcanons in my villainous au

Late pride month, everyone. I'll be making two similar videos like this for their gender identifications and neurodiversities later on

Jack and Loki both belong to @loki104-uwu

I hope you guys like it

[tnbc-thoughtsandheadcanons]

How do you think Jack reacted to When he found out Sally was treaded by the Dr we saw how he reacted to when oogie boogie hurt her I can’t imagine how he will feel when she was mistreated by a dear friend of his. If I was on his Jack list I’d get out of town.

I don't really have a simple answer for this on the account that Jack and the Doctor seem to be good friends, and he reaches out to him for help with his experiments in the movie. Fink sounds really happy when he sees Jack at this door, and he sounds equally as pleased when the Doctor shows up for his Christmas assignment. They have something in common and clearly get along.

So having Sally come up between them would...complicate things, I think.

I know in the recent books Jack is outraged with Finkelstein, and in LLTPQ he sentences Fink to community service for a long time. But I can't see Jack just throwing their friendship away instantly. I think he would try to talk some sense into the Doctor with giving Sally some more freedom, he undoubtedly looks up to Jack and vice versa, so maybe appealing to him would work?

In the end, Jack would be on Sally's side and if the worst came, would keep the Doctor out of the picture if he refused to apologize and make amends. But I like to think the latter happens - Fink making it up to Sally and treating Jewel much better than he did with her, and getting to still have a good relationship with his son-and-law and grandkids since he's working on improving himself. If Jack sees an effort being made, I can see him willing to overlook the past so long as Sally wants to, and aiming to help the Doctor become a better person rather than shunning him.

[destructionmylofe]

@badtnbcideas

What if Jack had gotten to Oogie Boogie's just a few seconds late and watched Santa and Sally fall into the stew...only for all of them to find out it wasn't stew, it was wassail (holiday drink very similar if not identical to cider).

And Sally would say something like "ugh...frog's breath" before trying to rescue Santa, because Oogie Boogie would know that the smell would give it away to him.

Then when they're in the pot, Santa would be impressed with the wassail but also really mad that he's all wet and cidery, so Oogie has Lock, Shock, and Barrel fill up the tub for him. Jack is flabbergasted and asks Oogie how he knew about wassail, and Oogie says some shitty pun like "I got a few bookworms in here" *pats tummy*.

Then after his bath, Santa goes off to salvage Christmas and Oogie tells him to call him if he needs pest control.

Then Lock, Shock, and Barrel refill the tub with wassail and they all go wassailing through Halloweentown, the end. The vampires think it needs more blood. Oogie thinks it needs more worms---and there are already some worms in it, because he used wormy apples. No one is phased but the audience.

I think that would have been a more stereotypically disney-esque ending.