#tiring discourse

[villainessbian]

Lesbians CANT be bisexual. They are literally mutually exclusive. To insist that they can is a TERF dogwhistle because they coined the term

No.

Lesbians can be whatever they want and do whatever they want and you need to learn to deal with it

TERFs are notoriously the ones who say that diverse queer identities cannot exist, not the ones who support them. Remind me, do TERFs want or acknowledge lesbian diversity? No they do not that's in fact one of the primary things they fight against.

"Bi lesbian" is predominantly used by trans women, if you want it to be even clearer with whom you stand.

If your definition of lesbianism excludes Sappho of Lesbos you're just wrong.

Literally the overwhelming majority of lesbian history is inclusive of bisexuality. Not just Sappho of Lesbos, you know, the person who got us named sapphic people and lesbians, but up to and including today. Get in a real physical queer space with an average age of more than 20, start the kind of shit you're trying to here, and see how fast people begin wondering if you're a cop. It'll get you a stern talking to at best, and kicked out at worst. Why do you want to eschew centuries of lesbian tradition for the sake of hating other queer people?

Separating lesbians from bi women is literally what TERFs did, what launched TERFs in the first place, and it only started in the 70s, see "Lesbians in Revolt" 1972 from the same old "lesbianism is just feminist praxis" separatists we keep finding in TERF circles today. Oh, they say bi women have male privilege? WHERE ELSE HAVE I HEARD THIS HMMMMMMMMM

TERFs are the first to say "lesbians can't like men" and hate on bi women, they're also the first to say that bi lesbians don't exist. Look: this is what TERFs say and think. Overtly. Openly. In front of everyone.

So if you actually care even just a little about not siding with TERFs, or about defending lesbian integrity and history, just stop. Look at where we come from. See how despite the flaws in our history, we have those too, we were placed in front of the LGBT+ - previously GLBT - acronym, because of the good we did. Don't tarnish that mark by arguing for people to be kicked off of queer communities because their definition doesn't fit what a tiktok user read on a carrd written by a kid probably raised by a TERF. None of us are defined by what we aren't allowed to do by the High Queer Authorities. Our communities are always going to be diverse, messy, overlapping, complex, sometimes hard to describe in a single phrase, and that's good. That's what being alive is. That's what being part of a community is. We're not fandom characters to argue about, and we don't need that in-fighting.

[aropride]

it drives me a little crazy when people ignore that jk rowling is transphobic towards trans men. as if she didnt write a 3600 word essay on how we’re delusional autistic girls who don’t know what’s good for us. as if one of the first times she dipped her toe into public transphobia wasn’t her complaining abt the phrase “people who menstruate”. essay long posts abt how her actions have harmed trans women and jewish people and people of color and fat people and many other people- which is true and important to talk about- but not a single mention of trans men. it’s odd

[solfinite]

extra doodles below

[derangedfujoshi]

Stalking is a crime, yes that includes your yandere boyfriend

Assault is a crime, yes that includes your whumper/whumpee scenarios

Being part of a mob is a crime, yes that includes your sexy son of a mafia boss

Killing is a crime, yes that includes your blorbo

Zoophilia is a crime, yes that includes you liking Nick Wilde

All your "exceptions" from what is and isn't condemnable in fiction are, in real life, a crime as well. Every dark trope falls in the "it would be a crime to commit this irl" category, it's not just the big age gaps with adult/minor ships and the incest, it's ALL of them. All of them are crimes in the real world, by law. The sentence may vary but you'd still be sent to prison. "But I only like it in fiction!"

So do we.

So do we, so can you get off your high horse and just admit that liking dark themes in fiction, ANY dark theme, does not reflect your moral compass in real life and for the love of everything STOP pretending fake murder is better than fake incest? You sound preposterous.

[wooshofficial]

“Being normal about sex and kink is a good thing and we should accept that as a society” and “asexuality often means zero sexual attraction (including kink) and sometimes means sex repulsion” are two statements that should co-exist. Unfortunately, we live like time is a flat circle and people keep reinventing new kinds of ace discourse.

[sforzesco]

something. about. the horror of being sent on an impossible (death) quest and obligations and hospitality politics. the trauma of not having a home, and then the trauma of being in a house that becomes actively hostile to you, one that would swallow you whole and spit out your bones if you step out of line. all of this is conditional, your existence continues to be something men want gone.

it's about going back as far as I can with the perseus narrative because there's always a version of a myth that exists behind the one that survives. the missing pieces are clearly defined, but the oldest recorded version of it isn't there! and there's probably something older before that!! but it's doomed to forever be an unfilled space, clearly defined by an outline of something that was there and continues to be there in it's absence.

and love. it's also about love. even when you had nothing, you had love.

on the opposite side of the spectrum, this is Not About Ovid Or Roman-Renaissance Reception, Depictions And Discourses On The Perseus Narrative.

edit: to add to the above, while it's not about Ovid, because I'm specifically trying to peel things back to the oldest version of this story, Ovid is fine. alterations on the Perseus myth that give more attention Medusa predate Ovid by several centuries. this comic is also not about those, either! there are many versions of this story from the ancient world. there is not one singular True or Better version, they're all saying something.

Perseus, Daniel Ogden

Anthology of Classical Myth: Primary Sources in Translation, edited & translated by Stephen M Trzaskoma, R. Scott Smith, Stephen Brunet

[thetourguidebarbie]

I think it would be helpful for everyone to acknowledge that "Israel is killing a high number of civilians in Gaza AND THAT IS BAD AND WRONG" can and does coexist with "other countries also do pretty much this exact thing and worse literally all the time but Israel gets a much more aggressive response because of antisemitism and that is a legitimate problem". One does not negate the other. This is called

✨nuance✨

[jolalibrary]

I miss when we were gardeners. when we tended to our fandom garden as a collective, instead of worrying that someone was making their part of the garden fancier than yours. I remember when people didn’t expect that it would be here tomorrow, when we lived in fear that we’d wake up and a site that housed our words would be gone, vanished. now, we don’t even care when our faves vanish and their blog becomes abandoned. we used to nurture fandom because it was an escape from the acting some of us had to do day to day, that we could be ourselves here. it feels—at times now—that people walk in, pluck a flower and leave. that if you’re not posting something new, your use is so little. but then, I remember when gif makers were respected and appreciated, and never had their work stolen and immediately put on twitter, and when moodboard makers and artists were adorned with so many reblogs and comments with ideas and headcanons that aided in new stories being generated. now no one shares any ideas out of fear some blog will write it first and you’ll be accused of stealing what you’ve spent months on. I remember when writers were seen as people who were just as talented as the people I’ve mentioned before, when people acknowledged how long it took to write a chapter or a one-shot. now, we’re easily replaceable, whether it’s AI or we’re simply not quick enough that people don’t want to invest. I remember waiting six months for an update on my fave fic, and I never felt slighted by it. because we liked being in fandom? we liked being supportive of everyone in it. we didn’t like everyone in it, because that’s impossible, but we didn’t make it our mission to burn them until they left, because we understood that even a gardener we didn’t like, was still someone cultivating a flower for someone we couldn’t make on our own. the saying it takes a village applies to fandom, and the question we need to be asking ourselves is: are we all doing our part or just taking and hoping it’ll be there to take from tomorrow?

[lycandrophile]

if you ever get involved in discourse that boils down to "can trans men be/do X?" i need you to understand that you're asking the wrong question. the right questions are: what gives you the authority to tell trans men what we're allowed to be or do? what makes you think we would listen to you? why is it your business? (hint: it's not.)

trans men can be and do whatever we want forever. stop worrying about what arbitrary rules you want to hold us to and start worrying about your own life for a change.

[rosetterer]

if you are mad that bucktommy is getting more attention than henren, you should be fucking furious that a non-canon mlm ship has been getting more attention than henren for YEARS

[theminecraftbee]

for the record I think the healthiest thing in this fandom is to remember that yeah, the hermits are online, there’s nothing stopping them from name searching themselves and finding basically anything you make, and the only way to stop it is to not post it publicly. (archive locking it on ao3 is also an option to be fair, but there’s nothing stopping them from getting an account!)

however, even the hermits clearly know that when they come to tumblr they are visiting Our House. so continue to be as weird as you want and when they show up you just go “yeah you came to the weird people house you can hit the back button” and keep going. like, as long as you aren’t like… sticking it in their discord or their stream chat or their tts, they’re choosing their level of engagement here, they’re in control of whether they see it, it’s fine. who cares.

all of which is to say: iskall I promise I can get weirder about you,

[menlove]

"this person uses a label I don't like and this makes me uncomfortable so they need to stop" okay and business majors make me uncomfortable but I'm not gonna tell them to go kill themselves about it. get so much of a grip.

[shesnake]

we as a society genuinely need movie rental stores back so much

[bread-wizards]

I actually think Dorian and Orym should fight more.

Remember when their slowly building tension over and entire episode (full of passive aggressive remarks and blame throwing) led to threats? And how after, Orym thanked Dorian for handing over the crown sadly because he knew Dorian would be mad at him? And Dorian couldn't even look at him because he was legitimately hurt, thinking Orym was disappointed in him for doing what he thought was right? That was peak.

The fact they went from that to their current closeness and trust is the best part of their entire dynamic. Their relationship was hard fought and still will be. They will fight for it because they respect and care for one another deeply, and their disagreements don't change that, only improve it.

[blluespirit]

back on my 'zuko is aroace' agenda. if i have to see one more post arguing about shipping i am going to start biting people. he's actually a single dad and never marries thanks bye.

[not-terezi-pyrope]

The inherent tension between the eat-the-rich working class self-made grind of being an independent etsy/commission artisan on social media, and the fact that due to the (very fair!) "know the worth of your work" price points in the hundreds of dollars their clients can by definition pretty much only ever be well off people with a lot of disposable income.

Issue is that a lot of them don't seem to realise this, which is evident when they try to guilt fellow poor people (and often those who are in fact a lot worse off) into buying their work, or call them or for not being willing to personally spend at their price point.