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Trapped in a vicious cycle of pining? Try gay sex! (More things to learn over at Tiger Tiger!)
#tiger tiger#jamis arlesi#remy bonnaire#Arno#through a series of unfortunate events I will be posting this after the update will be out so my timing will be more so:#“Alternate take on how that scene played out” Rather than my funnier “My prediction for how it will go down”#I truly think Remy would rather admit to crimes he didn't commit than confess he has a thing for men.#It would be funny! It would be so funny if this is how Jamis found out. Alas...Not yet...Not yet...#I do love the idea that Jamis completely overlooked the all the elder god horror to get right down to the question of 'HOW DO YOU KNOW HIM'#Remy knows him. Knows him carnally. Wouldn't you like to also know your captain better? In spirit and body and mind?#Jealousy looks good on Jamis. Now he just has to do something about it.#Poor Remy though...He love Jamis so much he'd do anything to prevent losing him.#Which entails never giving Jamis a chance of rejecting or accepting his feelings!#Meanwhile...Jamis is a bisexual disaster man who is at his *limit*.#(For the MDZS fans looking at this Tigers comic who still have no context:#This is like Lan Xichen finding out Jin Guangyao hooked up with Nie Mingjue after LXC spent all that time thinking JGY was straight.#Better yet. This is like WWX just starting to realize his crush on LWJ and then finding out he and JC hooked up in the time skip.#'Nice to know you're into men but why did I have to find out like this' moment.)#((Yes I am trying to bridge the gap between the fandoms I am in. Yes I am still on my propaganda train. Choo Choo!!!))
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Reblog if you think I'm cute 😍
#america#donald trump#hook me up#canada#australia#sissy fendom#fandom#fantasy#mtf trans#trans artist#trans beauty#trans man#trans pride#trans rights#transgender#transsexual#trans community#trans woman#transformation#transformers#transgirl#transisbeautiful#transmasc#travel#traditional art#natural body#fuck my wet pussy#sexy smoker#sexy and beautiful#so hot and sexy
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I’m a marinas long hair stan ok
Update: I coloured it
#starting wip?? moving onto off the hook bc I love them#there WILL be a colored version I just need to figure out how to properly colour again#..I also can’t draw big man I’m sorry I fucked him up so bad I’m not even gonna put it here#maybe next time#when I get more delusional#art#sketch#marina ida#splatoon marina#splatoon fandom#splatoon fanart#splatoon idols#off the hook#splatoon
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You know when a fandom becomes obsessed with a headcanon of a character that's nothing like how the character actually behaves in canon? And then they get mad and say it's out of character when the character does something that doesn't fit with that headcanon? Yeah. Yeah.
#just remembering how the umbrella academy fandom at large freaked out when Five and Lila hooked up#like excuse me#Number Five Hargreeves is an old man who brags about getting laid and takes insane amounts of hallucinogenic drugs and kills remorselessly
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Do people realise you can fuck other people even when you're attracted to someone and its not a moral failing nor does it taint your relationship with them?
#i know others have said it better#but the way anons are carrying on and crying about buck maybe hooking up with someone is just very mind boggling#like sex is sex mate#it is literally not that deep#the way some people are so intent on buck and eddie only being with each other#why is it fine theyve been with other women but the possibility of it being a man is so heinous#reeks of the whole bucksexual/eddiesexual thing fandom (or anyfandom) does sometimes cause i dont know#apparently its disgusting for men to have sec with each other unless its the specific way you want idk
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Most of your rafe/barry/Sofia works are rafe/barry, rafe/Sofia, barry & Sofia. And I was wondering how they would decide to get into this dynamic, like was rafe dating both of them privately and they both found out, or was he open about it and they where like fine yeah I'll date you even though your already in a relationship, like how did it happen.
I haven’t thought about it entirely? But in a Sofia/rafe/barry scenario I always imagine that Rafe/Barry were the first but were never fully monogamous — accidentally fell in love and put off admitting it for as long as possible, only let walls down when they were high out of their minds or wasted, or in the early hours the day after, never lingering, etc etc etc, trailerclub angsty shit — and had a mutual agreement (probably came to without ever actually talking about it) that they could still sleep around, either for appearances or just for fun.
Then there’s an overlap where Rafe starts hooking up with Sofia and accidentally falls in love AGAIN but puts off talking about it, so there’s likely like… a month or so of Barry fully aware and Sofia just blissfully ignorant, and then eventually I imagine Rafe and Sofia kinda-sorta talk about their relationship and Rafe mentions not wanting to ‘pick’ or something and Sofia asks enough questions to get out of him that he’s “kinda with someone else who knows about [her]” but still wants Her too, but because he’s Rafe Cameron and is shit at feelings and talking about them, he keeps it annoyingly vague
And then eventually, being the observant girlie she is in my brain, she picks up on the lingering touches and stares between Rafe and that one guy he invites to all his parties, the way they sit just a liiiittle too close together and lean into each other when they really don’t need to, and brings it up to Rafe and explains that she’s chill with it, she just wants him happy and maybe to be able to get to know Barry!
I simply don’t believe Sofia or Barry are monogamous people, they’re both way too queer for that to me, very comfortable and secure for the most part (if we ignore Barry’s issues with his own emotional repression and Sofia’s insecurities around her being working class), if anything I think Rafe would be the one to be weirded out by the prospect of dating two people at once in a way that’s NOT cheating, so when he finds a girl he actually loves and respects enough to not want to betray her like that he just gets super conflicted and puts everything on hold until he’s figured it out (but both his partners just figure it out for him because this boy is… useless—)
#thank you for the ask!! gave me an excuse to think about this properly#I always had the general idea of Trailerclub (Barry/rafe) being first— then the overlap of him hooking up with Sofia—#then triad after Sofia figures it out and gives rafe the option of polyamory#and Sofia and Barry just bond because Rafe has a violently obvious type and they’re basically the male/female version of each other#(if Barry’s family was half as accepting and loving and helpful as Sofias—)#forever stand by the fact that Sofia and Barry become besties who fuck and make out cause they find each other hot#(and they both know it drives Rafe fucking crazy lol)#the compersion is strong with Sofia#Barry is possessive as fuck but he’s secure in the fact that he fulfils a part of Rafe he can’t get anywhere else#(and there’s nothing better for a man like him than to see his pretty boy with a pretty woman)#Rafe has just found two people who make him feel less broken or simply not unloveable or monsterous and will do anything to keep them aroun#who treat him like a wilting flower to be cared for instead of a beast to be tamed#you know the vibes#🗣️rotten words#barry obx#obx headcanon#obx content#obx fandom#sofia obx#sofia x rafe#barry x rafe#rafe cameron#barry x rafe x sofia#rafe and sofia#rafe x barry#rafebarry#rafe x sofia#Barry x sofia#trailerclub#misstrailerclub
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If I see another goddamn LukeJamie thing where Luke is portrayed as the stoic grumpy yet caring seme prince being bothered by silly prankster uke Jamie I'm going to start committing murder and arson
When will shippers stop trying to fit characters into narrow lil cliche personality trait boxes just so it makes sense for them to be acting out these insipid little tropey scenarios, I am so close to turning into a shitty gatekeeper that complains about tourists I swear to god
#terminal talks#turning into Joseph Joestar#*shaking fist* I'll never forgive the Japanese!!#why am I seeing Luke quibbling about not wanting to hit girls when he literally says men and women fight on equal footing#why are people trying to chivalry him up when Metro City doesn't give a shit like you can beat up grannies and everyone's like cool#that's not Luke that's Lucas#and you westerners aren't off the hook either#I see y'all making Luke out to be a complete brainless himbo when he's very clearly a jock#which is a different genre of brainless#Like man#I don't usually get heated over fandom stuff cause it's not worth it like 110% of the time#live and let live#etc etc#but constantly seeing this weird not-Luke is incredibly annoying and it's ALWAYS the shippers doing it
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I will admit... svsss really got that "obliviously romantically dense" character trope LOCKED down.
#misc#sqq? sqh??? lqg??? all of them. so FUCKING dense#any other fandom i would be screaming#but in svsss shen yuan going 'oh. boyfriend? you mean like. boy. friend. friend who is a boy. like a gal pal. yes. we're “boyfriends”.'#is so believable bc this dense mf CANONICALLY felt up his love interest hard on and went#'oh no :( how mean of me to put him in this situation. should i help? like. as a bro. :( well he's unconscious so probably i shouldnt. :('#and it is completely believable this man compartmentalizes like it is his JOB#and SQH im not letting you off the hook either.#'i really should kick you to the curb but all i can muster is squishing your face. truly i have no feelings at all'#and lqg [succubus poisoned] : 'dont leave me alone :( but also im definitely not in love with you'#hands out the gold silver and bronze awards for blissfully ignorant novel characters
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things fandom didnt tell me:
blackwell seems a bit rough around the edges? i expected the man to be sebastian 2.0 given the talks that varric doesnt like him. and people find him boring [seb isnt]. i mean ive only had one interaction but it wasnt what i expected at all. but the fact that this homie is just making up bs is so obvious lmao. like he knows just enough words to drop them in and in the right parts, but not quite with the right force/conviction. like he read it in a book somewhere and is quoting.
there's more to iron bull. like i mean i knew that. but right off the bat this man is very knowledgeable? about fighting and styles [particularly how certain cultures/orders inform said styles. like that bit about cullen. and he is very proud of his own order]. he also comes off as a bit of a nerd and geek when talking to cassandra! [even though she keeps disappointing him. he still tries ererw roflmao.]
#feel the call of the dragon hunt cassandra! you shouldve lied just to make the nerd happy#blackwell#iron bull#grapecase plays dai#i mean i know not to trust fandom stuff. but i expected blackwell to be obviously .... not a warden#but while its so obviously bs. i feel it wouldnt be if you didnt KNOW#he just has Some Guy energy#he has this balance of some dude you met off this street and oh yeah he totes rubbed elbows with duncan#[i think its sweet he took what knowledge he had to help the farmers defend themselves. but i coulnt help but cringe whenever he was like Y#s. My Gray Warden Knowledge.]#and iron bull mentioned drinking once [arguably twice] and vaguely alluded to hooking up once#you know what he mentioned a lot of though?#his people/order of spies#i would believe this man has studied other places combat just so he could be the best benny h ever#more dropping in and spying in a corner than book learning but probs some of that too
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why is it always holster at the scene of the crime of this fandom's most insane mass hallucinations kdjskbdjf
#first the knee injury and jackholtz#now holster homewrecking the zimmermann's and ruining jack's life#and I just saw a post about post jackholtz holster hooking up with kent out of revenge#this man is truly the barbie millicent roberts of this fandom the way he has assumed every role
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I tried to rename my blog, but the name ended up being too long. Why do you do this, Tumblr? That really got on my nerves.
#incorrect quotes#shadow the hedgehog#obey me#various fandoms#off the hook#squid sisters#shiver#frye#big man#mini fics#various content#class 1a#amy rose#multifandom headcanons#buckle up folks#this is gonna be interesting#brace yourselves#genshin au#evillicious au#au headcanons#au talk#end me pls#i’m annoyed#this is bs#ughhhh#i am so done#why tumblr
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On one hand yes I agree that - from what I have seen of them - the Loki show would indeed lose on sexuality and gender stuff in some sort of fight with the Marvel comics about the same* character and it could/should try to do a bit more with those things. On the other (much larger**) hand, we were talking about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a live-action film & TV franchise, in which the show that 'erases Loki's bisexuality' is the only bit that ever so much as mentioned that bisexuality in any way whatsoever. So it has erased it... by putting it there in the first place.
(*We'll just call them the same for now, for the sake of this Discourse, keep your knickers on okay.)
(**Like Fanfic!Sylvie I have one small hand and one giant hand.)
#fandom wank#a bisexual man and a bisexual woman hooking up is... not actually erasing their bisexuality#insisting that a bisexual ONLY hook up with people you think will make them “look bisexual” (ie of the same sex)... kind of is though#m/f pairings are exactly as bisexual as m/m or f/f (or whatever else!) pairings - this is the true magic of bisexuality! embrace it!#(i'll stop making jokes about “her small hand” when god him/her/themself makes me!!!!!!)#(gotta lose me some followers before i post more fic in case any of them read it and judge me for it!!!)#(“don't post it online where they can read it then?” first of all HOW DARE YOU)#sexualityyyyy your laws do not applyyyy to meeeeee#loki series
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#some people in this fandom are annoying the fuck out of me#honestly what is the matter with a drunken hook up??#must you be a bitch about people want even if it’s not what you want?#just say I don’t agree because I’d like something more meaningful#you don’t have to act like a fast get together is the worst thing and dumbest thing that could happen#but also I don’t want to unfollow these people because they write great fics#it’s just annoying that they’re seen as like some great fandom god over what should happen#idk man I guess I’ve just seen more and more stuff like this showing up lately in this fandom#like people idolizing fic writers who have bnf just because a lot of people like their fics#ughhh sorry to be petty on main
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Just fair warning- I said on my personal post about this that I wasn't going to talk about Neil Gaiman anymore, but as it's becoming clear that him and his publishers and anyone else who makes money off of him is circling the wagons and trying to bury these allegations, as well as some fans still defending and trying to 'rationalize' this information, I feel like, actually, we need to keep talking about him (as much as I cannot stand him and feel physically disgusted now when I so much as see his face somewhere). Specifically, the fact that he's a liar, master manipulator and should not, under any circumstances, be given access to his fans like he has in the past. At the very least. (And if you need to blacklist his name or even unfollow me so as to not be triggered, I completely understand, but I will always try to tag these posts accordingly and I think it's crucial right now that the truth be put where people can see)
This post specifically is in response to those 'rationalizations' I've seen, some that have gone as far as to blame the young fans/groupies that hooked up with him for being 'golddiggers' or just making a mountain out of a molehill for something they now regret. It's not that simple, yall. (And, again, this requires some amount of completely ignoring the story about him extorting his tenant for sex under threat of eviction of her and her three young children, I'm not sure how you 'rationalize' that under the best of circumstances)
So let's be clear here. What we know is that NG has routinely, for possibly an upwards of 30 years, pulled sexual 'partners' from his fan groups, most of whom are 18-22 year old young women (though possibly younger, accounts are coming forward of 16 year olds having allegedly been inappropriately touched/flirted/propositioned by him, which ig is the age of consent in the UK but still?? 16 year olds!!). This wasn't one or two times in the course of three decades, this was a constant pattern of behavior for him and for a very insidious reason.
This isn't to try to infantilize those fans or young women/young people in general or try to suggest that they couldn't have consented to sex with an older person or famous person. In fact, the onus isn't on them at all. This is about an older guy with a lot of fame, power and wealth choosing to sleep with people that he had already conditioned to idolize him and using that power imbalance to coerce them into doing things they didn't want to.
Regardless of one's age or gender identity, it can be difficult to impossible to say 'no' to someone like that. After all, you've been 'chosen' by the chosen one, you're special and not like everyone else, and if you don't do what the popular person everyone trusts is telling you to do you could end up ostracized. Alienated. Or worse. And you know what? Gaiman knew that! He knew it when he was crafting his 'approachable dad' persona on tumblr. He knew it when he was cultivating a fandom of personality. He knew it when he was having huge meetups to try to ensnare more victims. I hate to even think it, but I'm starting to believe he knew it when he was writing children's books too.
It's been talked about again and again in separate issues, but needless to say something not being strictly illegal does not make it inherently, morally okay. It does not erase the fact that this man has been essentially grooming his fandom to feel safe meeting/speaking with him so he can coerce those he can snare into sexual acts they're not comfortable with. That is predator behavior, whether strictly 'illegal' in the eyes of a court or not (but ofc I think he should be criminally punished even if I'm not naive enough to think he actually will be, because this IS rape and rape should be criminally punished)
I'm not personally advocating for anyone to give up being in his related fandoms, but what I am personally advocating for is that people don't forget who he is and what he's capable of, especially when he tries to crawl back to where he was (I'm almost certain he will eventually, as I've said).
Again, at the very least, we need to use what little influence we do have to keep him from infiltrating fan spaces again. He should not be on tumblr yukking it up with young people, he should not be at public appearances hitting on teenagers, he should not be given the unrestricted access to fans that he's 'enjoyed' for the past 30+ years because he is not a safe person. While I wish there was more in the way of restorative justice that could be done, I think at very, very least we should do what we can to limit his proximity to people he could hurt in the future. Make sure no one forgets, because sweeping this under the rug means Gaiman gets to hurt more people.
Lastly, no one is the wrong for having been manipulated by him. Let's make that very clear. What we're NOT gonna do is blame ourselves, each other, the victims, etc, for evil acts that Gaiman chose to do himself, time and time and time again. It doesn't help the situation and it certainly doesn't protect future potential victims. We were all duped because we're human and we attach and a lot of us want to believe there are good people out there, particularly those who make art that means so much to us.
And there are. But let's also use this a teaching/learning tool about how much faith we place in famous people in the future, regardless of how 'approachable' and 'safe' they might seem. Let's remember to have a healthy suspicion of creators/famous people that are oddly immersed in fandom spaces- yes, even the ones you still currently like that seem fine, as difficult as that may seem.
At the end of the day, we don't know them or what they're capable of doing or what they might be plotting to do to us. Support victims. Amplify their voices. Don't forget.
#neil gaiman#tw neil gaiman#tw sa#tw victim blaming#neil gaiman allegations#ya actually im not gonna shut up about this#bc that's exactly what he wants#fuck off into the sun forever
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vicious I ln4
pairing: lando norris x reader, a little of charles leclerc x reader🫣 summary: lando's fans always attack you yet he does nothing to defend you, inspired by vicious by sabrina carpenter notes: if youre the anon that requested this sorry it took so long lol! but you were so sweet ty masterlist, part two
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yourusername lil getaway
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user wait is she dating lando??
user there's been rumors of them dating for months but neither of them have confirmed user hopefully not lol
user i had no idea she went on this trip
user yeah cause lando never posts her or even likes her posts lmfaoaofda
user am i the only one that finds her annoying...
user nooo everyone else does lol shes always leeching off lando
yourbff ur perfect babe liked by yourusername
user pls dont let this be a hard launch🧎♀️lando get UP
user of course she has to post lando🤣she needs him for the likes
maxfewtrell spent more time on the ground than actually skiing
yourusername SHHHH it was my first time
user why are all these comments about lando?? im only looking at her😍
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f1gossip Y/n Y/l/n spotted in Bali celebrating New Years at Martin Garrix's show, possibly with Lando Norris. The two have sparked dating rumors for a few months now but no confirmation has been made from either of them.
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user we might have to start accepting that theyre dating☹️
user I REFUSE
user wait im new to the fandom, whys everyone hating on y/n i love her music...
user shes always posting lando for attention and he clearly has no interest in her, he doesnt even like her posts user plus his ex >>>>>>> y/n
user she doesnt deserve him, he needs someone lowkey and y/n is such an attention whore
user not surprised shes there, always leeching on him
user right like girl give him space, he aint yours
user im a y/n defender idgaf. everyone in these comments are just jealous liked by yourbff
user yikes... user defending someone who needs a man to stay relevant lol ok
user i miss luisinha😭
user im convinced theyre still dating and shes using lando for pr
y/n hey lan, i safely made it back to the hotel
lando 👍
y/n i still dont understand why you wanted me to leave early though, its not even midnight :(
lando y/n, we talked about this. there was lots of paparazzi there and if they saw us together on midnight they would think we're dating
y/n we ARE dating... why are you acting like we arent?
lando yk what i meant im just trying to protect you from the craziness that comes from dating me baby
y/n im already getting hate, hows hiding me any different?
lando lets just not do this tn. yk how much worse its gonna get it if we confirm anything listen i love you, isnt that enough?
y/n yeah, ily too
lando ill see you later tn❤️
lando baby where are you? come on it was a drunk mistake, yk i only love you it was just martins friend, you know her
y/n oh the girl you told me not to worry about?
lando it didnt mean anything why are you acting like this?
y/n because you fucking cheated. im leaving and im moving out of the apartment
lando please dont, im sorry baby i love you
y/n you say you love me but you can never prove it you hid me away for a whole year, was it so you could hook up with other girls?
lando of course not wth but since there's clearly no trust in this relationship maybe we should end it i wish you the best y/n read
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yourusername new year same me, wasnt ever the problem
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yourbff YES WIFEY liked by yourusername
user she unfollowed lando omg.
user WAR IS OVERRRR
pietrapilao out of sight out of mind🧘♀️ liked by yourusername
user is this about lando omg...
luisinhaoliveira99 😍😍 liked by yourusername
user ARIANA WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE??? user WHEN DID THEY MEET??? user I NEED THE TEA RNNNNNN
charles_leclerc 🖤
user OH?
user what is going on in these comments omg??
user shes finally realized lando will never date a girl like her
user hahaha fr she finally deleted all her posts with him user probably gonna go for piastri now🤣
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yourusername took some time off music but dont worry, im back and ready to prove i dont need anybody to stay successful
vicious is out now💌
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user OH NOWWW LANDO LIKES HER POST
yourbff sooo back baby
user this has to be about lando...
user the lyrics are heartbreaking omg
user you all owe her a big apology for the way you treated her
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charles_leclerc love it! this comment has been deleted
charles_leclerc congrats on the new song!!
taylorswift 💌❤️
user yall better not start switching up!! if you were hating on her, stay away
user are we just going to ignore charles' deleted comments??
user bro was NERVOUS
user we dont know if this is about lando!! they were just friends
user you toxic lando fans need to stay away🙄 she was never seen with anyone else this past year so its clearly about him. hes not some saint you paint him out to be user exactly!! you guys are acting like you know him
user her shirt saying loyal🫣thats gotta be a diss
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landonorris pretty vicious life im living rn
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user the caption??? the hard launch??? oh thats not-
maxfewtrell bro. no.
user his own best friend doesnt approve of his behavior😬
user this winter break drama is something else
user lando i cant keep defending you. why would you caption it this.
user IS THAT NEW YEARS KISS GIRL ON THE THIRD SLIDE???
user yess i found her @ shes martin garrix's friend and she was at that party
user anyone else notice luisa unfollowed him??
user she chose her side HAAHAH user pretty ironic cause so many fans were comparing y/n to her and now theyre friends🤣
user whys everyone mad?? its his private life why do you guys care
user oh so now you guys are giving him privacy?? but when he was rumored to be with y/n you were hating...the hypocrisy
yourbff alexa play obsessed by mariah carey🥱
user OOP user the girls are fightingggg
user not even a y/n fan but this was a bit unnecessary...
user "you dont feel remorse, you dont feel the effects" 🫠
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f1gossip Despite hard launching their relationship just one week ago, Lando's new girlfriend has been spotted getting cozy with a different guy! The leaked pictures have already caused for her to go private on all social medias😬
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user karma is A GOD
user i know y/n is having a good day today
user omfg poor lando :(
user womp womp
user i bet he is regretting his decisions rn😭
user y/n nation won today, ln4 nation taking L after L
user we cant catch a break😩
user WHAT IS GOING ON WITH LANDO RN
user craziest winter break yet jeez
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charles_leclerc hey y/n! i know we havent spoken much but ive seen how lando treated you the few times you were at races and i apologize for never speaking on it i just wanted to tell you you're a great person and your music is so amazing if you ever need anything please just shoot me a text!
landonorris y/n you blocked my number? im sorry about everything baby can we please just talk?
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yourusername im soooo sorry for your loss😊
my new single feather is out now!! special thanks to @charles_leclerc for helping me out in the music video, had so much making it <3
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user this mv was so hot omg
user I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS BUT I LOVE
user i know a certain someone is FUMING
luisinhaoliveira99 on repeat already!!
yourusername 💋💋 user im convinced luisa reached out after she saw all the comparisons with her and y/n and they became besties user wait that makes so much sense
user f1 twitter is going insane rn
user Y/N NATION KEEPS WINNING
pietra.pilao AHH youre so talented bby liked by yourusername
charles_leclerc had the best time on set with you❤️
yourusername ❤️ user i ship it........
user i want them both
user ofc now shes going for another driver🙄
user oh you guys are OBSESSED with her, get a job user y/n still has them mad LOL
user l**** would never agree to anything like this
user im literally never getting over this, ive watched it 5 times in a row already
landonorris
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landonorris a toast to my real friends
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user if this is a charles sneak diss i will cry
user we got carlando content....but at what price
user oh he definitely got blocked by y/n😭
user dw we're on your side lando
user who is we?
user just take the L and move on bro
user the way 2 songs got everyone to switch up on lando HAHA
user not just that but his shady posts too
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user the girls are OFFICIALLY fighting oh gosh
user next season is going to be interesting...
user my roman empire
user IS THIS A HARD LAUNCH???
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Big Moana 2 Spoilers ahead. Beyond the cut is the Samoan to english translation of maui's 2nd song for moana. (And the context it appears in)
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ladies and gents of the moana fandom, thanks to the effort of samoan speaker @yuki685 on youtube, and my buddy @rykierykerman for hooking me up with the text and screenshots
what i'd like to discuss with yall today is not only sharing the translation for this song, but some of the character implication this has for maui, especially when you look at how his OG legends depict him.
LYRICS:
(Maui singing in Samoan):
Aue, aue, le faigata / Aue, aue, how difficult it is
Ua pa'ū fa'anoanoa / Falling into sadness
Aue, aue, fa'ataga ola / Aue, aue, please allow this life to continue
Lenā La'u talosaga / This is my prayer
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(E manu malo) / May there be blessings
(Opataia Foa'i and Te Vaka singing in Tokelauan)
Tele tele mana e o te vavau (Vavau) / Great, great power of mana
Tau ke tu ke Manumalo / Fight, stand tall and be victorious
Ke Manumalo / Be victorious
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(Grandma Tala)
Aue, aue, mana e o te vavau / Aue, aue, the power of mana
Tau ke tu ke Manumalo / Fight, stand tall and be victorious
Ke Manumalo / Be victorious
Ke Manumalo / Be victorious
Ke Manumalo / Be victorious
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The piece that made me flip my shit when I read it was the confirmation that this song is a PRAYER
when I first heard this song before the movie I assumed it was a funeral rite. a dirge, followed by a choral revival. during the film, when maui and then the ancestors sang it over moana's lifeless body and I had no subtitles to go on, I thought perhaps it was a spell, or maybe a lullaby from Maui's far distant past, then taken up by the ancestors as a comfort to the grieving Maui- then back to the spell theory as Moana awoke to the powerful music and emotion channeled by tala and her crew.
even my first google translate search of the lyrics missed the word prayer, which goes to show that AI translation is no match for native human insight.
Maui's song being a prayer is a friggin big deal.
Maui's stories span the width & breadth of the pacific islands, and each culture arising from those island tells variations on that legend. some emphasize his rebellious side, others his inventiveness, still others his drive, his humor, his ingenuity, his pride. But a common theme in most is that this man, this demigod- he does NOT get along with the majority of his ancestors or the gods. Even when he's not outright malevolent to them, he's tricking them or undermining their effort. He's usually stubbornly self-sufficient, if he gets help from someone divine, its usually because he tricked them into doing it. Maui does not beg, he does not plead. (at least, not with any lasting sincerity). he's a charmer, a schemer.
But here he is, his tattoos stripped away, his hook gone, his beloved Moana growing colder and colder- he's out of tricks. he's out of time, out of power. he's as helpless as the day he was thrown into the ocean to save her. rock bottom, figuratively and literally.
he does the absolute last thing he can, born of pure desperation. pure grief, pure need. He prays.
he prays not expecting an answer. he prays, knowing that the gods and all his family would relish the chance to tell him to fuck all the way off. he prays, even if to no one but moana's lifeless body.
i often joke that maui is bad at feelings. but really what i mean is that maui is bad at regulating his feelings. he represses them as hard as he can, denies them, wraps them in humor and when that fails he straight up tries to out run them. its a maladaptive coping skill he's had to pick up over his immortal 3000 year lifespan because otherwise, he'd be wallowing in endless grief as friend after friend either dies or lives long enough to become his antagonist. boy has some serious trauma built up and no good examples of how to handle it in a healthy way.
until moana.
moana provided an example of how to be vulnerable without being weak. a safe space where he could share his heart and be met with understanding and validation. we see him mature, even fractionally, and in the sequel he's not nearly so closed off. he worries openly about moana, admits his concerns about the mission, even returns moana's favor from the first film and gives her a sincere, supportive pep talk.
but all his progress in processing his emotions seems to backfire in this moment. the first time he'd opened his heart to a fragile mortal friend and here he is, exactly as he feared, devastated at her passing. He had invested real time and care and attachment into this human and he's utterly shattered that its all coming to an end so fast. that he'll never experience her voice or her smile or her wit ever again.
she's precious to him. he cant bear to lose her. his sadness in more crushing than the ocean he's surrounded by, denser than the rock he kneels upon. even if he got his powers back, even if he pulled up a million islands, if Moana isn't there to land on them...there's no point.
less than 10 minutes ago he was ready to die for her.
3 minutes ago in movie time, maui faced his own mortality. powers stripped bare, down to his last ounce of strength, frying in impossible lightning heat, he kept struggling. the first look he gives moana is fear, raw and unfamiliar on that handsome face. but in this penultimate moment, his eyes meet moana's. his grimace gentles, eyebrows lift, gaze softens into a regretful, heart melting smile. he finds small comfort in seeing moana for one last time, seeing her unhurt, hearing her call his name. the rope slips from his grip, and somewhere in the milliseconds between lightning flashes, he relaxes, relief skitters across his features. perhaps he thinks "ahh, at least she's ok." "at least she'll outlive me". perhaps he has a moment of acceptance for his fate, knowing she's proud of him, knowing he did his very best. maybe he thinks ,"this way ill be sure to meet her again, in the afterlife. its for the best."
or maybe, just maybe, he thinks
"see you out there, moana."
but now, 3 minutes later, its once again the worst case scenario. any relief he had in that last smile at her is obliterated in the wake of his grief. its once again the worst case scenario. he's not thinking now of the curse being broken or his hook or his tattoos. a world that she's not in, whether he be human or demigod, is not a world he can stand to exist in. he cant do this without her. he needs her.
so he digs deep inside himself, through the pain or losing her, through his own family trauma and antagonism towards authority, and pride, to beg, on his knees for help from a higher power. its unclear to us if he's intending to pray to the gods or to his own ancestors or both or neither. to anyone who can help. to anyone who will listen.
and its neither of those sources who answer, at least, not as directly as matai vasa or tala do. its moana's kin, her loved ones, (eventually including the ocean), who answer from the great beyond. he looks them in the eyes and they weep with him. they sing power over moana and the impossible happens.
(salacious handholding occurs)
the stars are put back in maui's eyes, the sun back into his sky.
does this mean...
yes.
his tattoos are still cooler than hers.
even when theyre mad at him. (same, little guy, same.)
bruh.
now kiss
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