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My sister’s mother-in-law said nazis and trans people are both equally morally wrong. I said that the nazis in society actively want to kill groups of people, including trans people, and then asked who trans people want to get rid of she said “Christians basically”.
The victim complex of these people is insane.
(This came up in relation to the Olympic opening ceremony btw)
#Christian crybabies#right wing grievance#they are so weird#this is the median voter#fucking a#us politics
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i can’t really think of anyone that most people in the US would have less general sympathy for than a dead health insurance CEO. like take all the bad things about corporate monopolies that you’d experience with like your phone or internet provider and then add on the financial incentive to let thousands of people die of preventable illnesses and then bill their families for it. literally an institution that automates social murder. even the most burgerpilled american must cheer for this man’s death
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pretty immediately, the thing that stands out about every post about the end of the ep that places the armies and warriors of Vasselheim as victims is the subtle obfuscation of that militarized status. there were armies, intending to lock Imogen and the Hells away for the crime of saving them. and people are comparing them to Buddhist monks. violence and threat in the hands of outsiders is horrifying, but violence to maintain the preexisting power structures is so normalized as to be forgotten.
#critical role#cr spoilers#its just. obviously the circumstances are such that bh are the ones in power (for like the first time ever lol)#but let's not lie about who their opposition is#this would feel way different if they were bullying a bunch of peaceful clergy instead of sassing the general who just tried to smite them#cr meta#crposting#cr discourse#anyways. episode so good i'm maintagging discourse without a second thought#eta: this isn't exclusively abt the buddhist monks post that's just the most overtly egregious example of a larger phenomenon#did not intend to whack one person specifically i didn't expect this post to gain traction among the cr median voter 😭#thought a few of my treasured mutuals would rb it and that would be it
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Trumpflation is real I just spent $7 on toothpaste
#it was the organic shit from the grocery store that doesn’t sell like crest and Colgate#but don’t let the median voter know that
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Hi, big fan of your fics. I've just found your Tumblr and binged everything Icemav-related. When reading about Icemav's political beliefs, I've gotten curious. Does Bradley share the same political beliefs as Ice (and Mav)? Does being raised by them or them pulling his papers influence how he votes? Or there are other factors in the play (e.g. generations, social media)? How about Jake and the other Daggers? How does this young generation of the Navy perceive politics (elections, gender, etc.)? My apologies for bombarding you with questions. But as a non-American, American politics have always been something we must pay attention to. I've seen many interesting interpretations on Tumblr but it feels more or less wistful than realistic, but I might be wrong (again not an American) so I would love to see your perspective on this. Thank you.
a good politics roundup post before i leave this blog
icemav & their conservatism: here, here, here
ice’s NECESSARY conservatism as commander of the pacific fleet (i.e. officers who are most likely to get promoted to the highest ranks do NOT break the service line when it comes to domestic politics, so by necessity ice would’ve had to keep his mouth shut, he Cannot be both a four-star and a revolutionary, like he just can’t; and being a revolutionary is otherwise antithetical to his character anyway): here, here.
and the original “ice & mav politics post” which is being updated here: here
I’ve gone back and forth on everyones politics over the last year of me being involved with these characters, but let me just tell you where I’ve ended up headcanoning them politically, if ur interested
ice: reagan democrat. “educated moderate” who was more right-leaning pre-9/11. now just a regular ol liberal (did you SEE those gay little round glasses in tgm? no way this guy isn’t a straight-up lib) with absolutely no strong feelings about most domestic politics besides “fascism bad”. Has some foreign policy opinions that areeeee questionable at best, like all members of the military elite (hangman voice: DO NOT ASK ICEMAN ABOUT CHINA. WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE). foreign policy neoliberal favoring the dovish side of the spectrum. A force conservator (“let’s save our military assets [read: my boyfriend maverick 🥺] for when we really need them, not for any old conflict. the deterring specter of the American war machine should outweigh the risk of underperforming”). He’s in favor of marriage equality of course, but treats it like a privilege and not a right. would be sad/upset if it got repealed but wouldn’t necessarily fight for it. “well at least my marriage will always be legal in california so i just won’t leave, problem solved.” Normie median Biden voter.
mav: political wildcard tbh. original 1986 mav is DEFINITELY right-leaning (i think i’ve written elsewhere, “he fully believes bill clinton is an affront to god”). i get young republican vibes from him. Full on patriotic (but dispassionate) 1980s reaganite anti-commie neoconservative. but after the 2010s i am very confused tbh. Tom cruise’s political aura is an insanely confusing one. idk. No matter what, Mav has some Hot Takes that a.) can immediately be shot down by ice using Facts and Logic at any time and b.) are not strictly partisan. He’s registered democrat just to support marriage equality (his marriage is his top priority but he doesn’t care about Other gays’ marriages, only his own), doesn’t care about any of the party’s other lines. Votes however ice tells him to. I get real “kind clueless libertarian” vibes from 2022 maverick tbh. Especially with the “isolating himself in a hangar in the middle of the mojave desert.” that has a political connotation to it for sure. bro just does whatever he wants out there
also, ice & mav live in San Diego, which… while in blue/democrat leaning California…is famously a bastion of right-wingers & has a hitler particle level off the charts… (sorry its not my favorite place in the world). That’s why they’re both continually so disgusted by San Francisco (a metonym for effete liberal homosexuality). Theyre from San Diego, hatred of SF & liberal SF politics is kinda par for the course down there.
Bradley: as u will see in the extras i definitely hc Bradley as an activist, but because he’s… in the navy and also like in his 30s… It’s not college campus activism, it’s just “things all of us in the left wing can agree upon” activism. so, like, BLM or pride, etc. He’s an “in this house we believe” yard sign liberal. He is 38 years old. hes a solid millennial so not politically hip with the kids (me)
Bradley & ice/mav disagree on the VISIBILITY of politics. Ice & mav, who did live through the vietnam era draft/near-dissolution of American society in the 60s and 70s, are not in favor of possibly losing their job/honor they have fought and killed for, for the sake of a political statement. And they believe their relationship IS a political statement, whereas Bradley would rather encourage them to treat their relationship like, I don’t know, a relationship that has a right to exist independent of politics!
Jake and the other daggers: idk. i don’t really give a shit about the daggers sorry. They r blank slates 2 me. jake especially is canonically frat-boy sexist in a way that gives me the heebs, much like original 1986 maverick and ice. But the navy tends to be the most left-wing (or thought of as left wing in common thought) service of the military, if that helps. But it is also the most traditional service of the military, and by traditional I mean BRITISH!!!! 🇬🇧💂there’s so much pomp and circumstance and hoity-toitiness that comes from the navy’s origins in the Royal Navy. A lot of sticking to outdated tradition in the very fabric of the navy itself, while the navy’s enlisted demographics shift younger and more left-wing/“revolutionary…” some interesting conflicts there. Like that one sailor who got blasted by multiple congressmen on social media for (with permission!) reading a poem about their queer identity on the USS Gerald ford’s intercom a few months back, if I remember correctly. Hoo boy the Takes that day were wild. Younger Americans tend to be more liberal but YMMV with officers, who are by nature trying to uphold outdated traditions of the navy for the sake of keeping the navy a unified service
i am of course writing carole as a christian republican who has gay friends and a gay kid not by choice but by the Grace of God
#i realize some terminology in this post is so hyperamericanspecific that you may need to Google it#like the in this house we believe yard sign#it’s… like… i can’t even describe it. it’s a kind of well meaning liberal who can sometimes be a little cringe.#and Reagan democrats (which ice is) are a whole political subgroup in and of themselves#maybe not Reagan democrat but like conservadem? but no that’s different too#blue dog democrat? but not sure he’s that conservative#THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BECOME SUCH A BIG TENT POST TRUMP THERE ARE 50.000 TYPES OF DEMOCRAT YOU CAN BE#san francisco as a metonym for effete liberal homosexuality of course (it’s where im from 😎😎)#it’s a ten hour drive from SF to San diego like they might as well be different countries. san diego secede from the US when 🙏🏽#pete maverick mitchell#tom iceman kazansky#top gun#icemav#top gun maverick#jake hangman seresin#bradley rooster bradshaw#normie median biden voter ice#the navy is liberalizing but veeeeery slowly#most of the conservative pressure ive seen towards the navy is external! policymakers & budget drafters etc#the navy is very liberal BUT that makes it a laughingstock among conservatives!#so a desire from higher-ups to push the Navy more conservative to be taken seriously…is kinda understandable#when being taken seriously means more ships more capability more money etc#instead of GOP culture-war-pilled pennypinchers going ‘hey why are we givin the gay service so much money’#take this post with a grain of salt. i have never been old enough to vote in a federal election.
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#I have a half baked theory that this is the case bc the left is so obsessed with the ~aesthetic~ of revolution#that any actual revolutionary potential gets channeled towards keeping up appearances#whereas when median voters/libs/right wingers are pissed about something they actually DO something about it#as opposed to trying to fit it into the priors of a dubious 19th century political theory#politics#twitter
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I think some people who swung to Obama and then swung back just wanted to vote for the first Black president. They knew he had a real chance of winning and wanted to be included.
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I hope the Democrats learn nothing
What's the right lesson to learn from 2024? That people *really* fucking hate inflation. Don't be like Biden, be like Obama.
And that's the worst lesson they could learn.
Not for me, I'll be fine. Empirically, extended low-interest-rate stagnation is great for software engineers. Which I am. Now.
I wasn't fine in 2010. The great recession almost ruined my life. Not on its own, it had help from my parents, the American higher education system, my own bad decisions, and some purely personal bad luck. But still. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Not even the fucking morons who *just voted for it*.
So I hope, when the next recession threatens, that whoever's in charge then forgets the lessons of 2024, and picks a big inflationary stimulus over an insufficient one. Even if it loses them the next election.
#us politics#current events#still angry#but#less angry#tbh for a few days#I did wish stagnation on the median voter#but not anymore
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if you want to truly understand the liberal psyche circa the late dubya administration there is no better thing source to turn you towards than the simpsons movie. unless you remember actual liberal politics of the period in which case i really hope you have a workout plan to strengthen your back
#the point im trying to make: hmm maybe it’s bad that the us army is stationed everywhere indefinitely#the message the median voter took from the film: spider pig….. alaska gives you free money for not being woke
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the citizenship thing is insane because it's fundamentally illegal, it's so much more illegal than almost anything because it contradicts the fucking constitution, and the point of it, besides to subvert the constitution, is to find out who is a little spineless coward who won't say "hey this is subverting the constitution" and it's insanity inducing because every so-called opposition leader should nut up and say "hey this is subverting the constitution" and no one should ever move on from this. make this the permanent thing. you know how they did HRC with emails and Benghazi as permanent things and jack shit progressed? they (the media) can do that. they (the Democrats) can do that. "What do you think about Tru/mp's [evil new thing]?" "I abhor it but I want to talk about the EO about birthright citizenship AND HOW IT'S AN ATTACK ON THE US CONSTITUTION" fucking morons this is an easy message. it's so fucking easy. "if Trump will attack the 14th amendment, how long until he comes for [amendment most important to interest group]?"
#boo hoo but median voters hate immigrants#look pritzker has his issues im sure but my IL homies know their governor isn't a fucking coward about that
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i hate saying this but luigi mangione being hot is genuinely so important to whats happening in the us right now lmfao
#its that thing where trump got grazed and those pics came out where he looks badass. that was an oh fuck moment for the left#'median voter sees thing that is aesthetic and forms a belief system around that' is a tragically real phenomenon
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I should probably actually read theory instead of scraping it off the back of bloggers getting annoyed at usamerica but at this stage of my life I think I can change my political alignment from "Scared" to "Socialist in the same way you hide a pill inside a piece of cheese for a dog so it doesn't notice (Pill is Communism)"
#politics#look I get the gist of most of this shit#but I genuinely believe even your average median-voter american#would rather die with their teeth in your neck than be a communist#So personally i'm spending my time on the Transitionary Period first
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I think what is genuinely fascinating about the border debate is that the dems have for some reason ceded that the Mexican border is a "crisis" but will still only talk about it in terms of organized crime. not like "well the illegal immigrants are actually agents of organized crime", they will generally not talk about refugees/individual migrants at all. (just from what I've seen of course.) not? as bad as it could be??
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it's actually crazy how stupid he is
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Whom is the other Succession boy you're rooting for besides Kieran Culkin?
Jeremy Strong as Roy Cohn!
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wip wednesday: picking at it slowly but surely
#as a vulture picks at a carcass on the side of the road#No posting date on these. life keeps getting in the way.#back home in cali for a couple weeks but I’ve been having a lot of health problems#so just gonna try to get back on my feet & do what i can for a little while#pete maverick mitchell#tom iceman kazansky#icemav#top gun#asks#top gun fanfiction#1. birthday boy has his first crisis#2. this one might be a prompt fill not sure yet—memory lane#3. ice and kindness (re: the post last week)#4. Biden drafts tom kazansky to be navy secretary; he has some doubts about the distance#normie median biden voter ice#let the white dad in his 60s make dad jokes!
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