#this is in regards to queer ships btw!!!
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secretsofthewilde · 3 months ago
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One of my favourite things about starting a new show I've only heard about secondhand through Tumblr is discovering what's canon and what's just a wildly accepted headcanon.
Following on from that, it's always a particularly special treat when I start a show and feel rather confident that the main ship I'm aware of is something that's not canonical, only to realize within the very first episode HOLY SHIT they're actually obsessed with each other and even the other characters are saying so - I don't think the fans were being delusional this time.
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mieczyhale · 2 years ago
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@gay-jewish-bucky IT REALLY FUCKING IS. No matter what if it’s a canon gay couple it’s just not going to be good enough for the exact same people who complain about wanting more gay rep. Part of getting gay rep is accepting that we’re going to get rep for all kinds of gays, all kinds of relationships, all levels of relevance - not just the kind that some people want or deem acceptable.
We finally have what is, in my opinion, a pretty well balanced canon queer ship that isn’t just ~hints and eye contact~, that isn’t squeaky clean, that have meaningful conversations and show love and affection like it’s not a big deal. It’s treated on equal levels to any straight ship on the show and I think that’s a breath of fresh goddamn air tbh.
I know people are always going to complain, but this topic has gotta be one of the most annoying and most exhausting ones. People should be happy we get any kind of lgbtqa+ rep, and that that rep is getting not just more diverse over the years but better too. There’s never going to be Perfect Queer Representation and to bitch and hold out for it?? To nitpick the fuck out of every ship?? Why would you, y’know??
#sorry for ranting jksdhfkds#i feel ancient saying this - like a grandma regaling her grandkids with tales of walking to and from school in the snow barefoot - but#i remember when there were no canon queer ships on tv or in movies#there wasnt shit for any of us#no matter what your label was#and now we have enough canon ships and canon lgbtqa+ characters that people feel they're entitled to be picky??#like my dude we just started getting this kind of content in my teen + adult life#maybe appreciate how far we've gotten studios and companies to come in a relatively short amount of time#maybe appreciate the positive for 2 seconds before you start demanding stuff and whining when you dont get it. especially when it#wasnt promised to you  - btw. in regards to the ship i was talking about the showrunners said it was going to go down differently from#the books. they aged up the characters afterall + they were smashing 2 series together to create a whole new thing. they warned people#we got the canon ship. they put a lot of thought into writing it and the actors - who are big fans of the books - put a lot of thought#into acting it. that's the other thing!! actors who give a shit a bout providing quality queer rep!!! why are y'all not talking about that?#that's also not a given when it comes to people playing queer roles. there's a lot special going on here and to be so negative..#idk man it's doing a huge disservice to a lot of people + it ignores the progress made + it's whiny and annoying#i'm annoyed. does it show?? i think it might show#sdhjfsdkfs#sorry again for turning my reply into a rant. cole ur an angel and i love u#replies#maison speaks
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reesespieces-org · 4 months ago
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Fatui Harbinger Sexuality HC's
Its no secret that the Harbingers are all queer in some way, shape or form. It's just fact at this point, but I wanted to share some of my headcanons for the Harbingers + the Tsaritsa. TL;DR at the end.
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Starting off with our beloved Cryo queen, I am a firm believer that she is either aroace or an asexual sapphic. The Tsaritsa is the Archon of love. It had to happen. I mostly headcanon her as aroace just for the irony of it (love goddess doesn't seek love herself type of deal), but I also don't really see her with anyone. I know her and Pierro are a popular ship, but it kind of follows along with the weird pattern of Harbinger x Archon, and it got out of hand after ZhongChi (DottoNahida scared the daylights out of me). And I headcanon all of the Archon's to be asexual, so she falls in that line too.
Second up we got the Director, Pierro! Again, aroace mostly, but I've played a little with him and Rhinedottir being past lovers (interesting concept to me, can't really explain it because of the minimal information I have of the both of them) so from time to time I fluctuate between aroace and aroflux. The one constant for him would definitely be asexuality though, cannot see this man having kids. He's a cat dad, fight me on it.
Second in line, Capitano! He's a straight ally. Definitely the supportive dad that doesn't exactly understand but he'll defend his children (coworkers) if anyone gives them any problems (not like any of them can't handle it themselves, they just like having scary dog privileges!)
Next up, our morbid doctor, Dottore! He's a little fickle, as I can see him being bisexual because of his one date with Soreh and obviously his affiliation with Pantalone. Probably aceflux, it's just not something he's really into and doesn't care for it. Just depends on his partner I suppose. In regards to his segments, all of them are asexual and go by non binary pronouns. They differentiate between one another using their names (Alpha, Beta, Omicron, etc...) and personal attire preferences, so people just refer to them as "they/them" in order to keep them separate from Prime.
For the beloved angel, Columbina, she is sapphic! Definitely a demigirl too, since she is an angel and all. Not much to say, unfortunately, but I think it's self explanatory.
Ah my lovely wife Arlecchino. Like most, I think of her as a masc/butch lesbian. Was definitely Signora's gay awakening.
Pringles man—aka Pulcinella—is a straight ally as well. Much like Capitano, he doesn't quite understand all of it, but he's happy that everyone else is happy and doesn't mind learning more.
Scaramouche is demisexual, even after he turns into Wanderer. Much like Columbina, there isn't much to say about him.
Sandrone is aroflux like Pierro. She's happy being by herself with her dolls, and doesn't feel the need to have a relationship with someone. Also a demigirl!
Signora was a closeted bisexual, since she never truly figured it out before she died. Entirely Arlecchino's fault btw. Anyway, hope she's happy with her beloved Rostam.
Pantalone is pansexual (ah, see what I did there?), and leans towards the asexual spectrum.
And as everyone knows, Childe is a raging achillean/bisexual. It's just fact.
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TL;DR:
Tsaritsa: aroace/asexual sapphic
Pierro: aroace/aroflux
Capitano: straight ally
Dottore: bisexual, aceflux
Columbina: sapphic, demigirl
Arlecchino: masc/butch lesbian
Pulcinella: straight ally
Scaramouche: demisexual
Sandrone: aroflux, demigirl
Signora: closeted bisexual
Pantalone: pansexual, acespec
Childe: achillean bisexual
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eddiediazismyhusband · 3 months ago
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Why do you insist on infantilizating the characters who were victims of Tommy, who have clearly forgiven and embraced him? Do you think you know better than them? You act as though every Tommy fan is a damn nazi while ignoring the actual POV of the characters of color affected by his actions.
Btw there are absolutely context clues given in the early eps that Tommy could be queer.
Stop acting like you speak for anyone but yourself. There have been a lot of posts by black, queer men, that are pro-Tevan that you seem happy to ignore. If you think Tommy is a racist, unforgivable character, fine. But you can't stop acting like you somehow staked a claim to some moral high ground here when the reality is you wouldn't care at all if he didn't threaten your ship.
oh look guys i pissed them off again by calling them out on their bullshit :) it’s been a while i was wondering when you’d show your (anonymous bc you know people would call you on your shit if you weren’t) faces here
i have never called you people “nazi���s” and think it’s vile that you view being called out on the constant defense of this blatantly racist character as an equivalent to being called a nazi
it’s disgusting behavior to say “oh you think im a nazi if you disagree with me” when you’re being called out and i cannot believe you had the absolute gall to say something like that on my blog
you are not a victim. this is the victim mentality i was talking about.
you say im only threatening by him bc he “threatens my ship” meanwhile the show has not treated him as a serious LI, and has actually taken more time to ignore him/parallel him to buck’s previous failed LI’s than setting him up as a serious contender for edngame w buck. you’re the ones (rightfully) threatened by eddie because he actually had plot armor and has a character that’s not a bunch of stolen headcanons that you’ve all placed on him
you guys love to call it infantilizing poc characters when we, yknow, fairly call out negative behavior but then you get so upset when people make valid criticisms of his character because you know his personality and character have no actual stability within the plot because he has not been developed beyond being racist and being gay
it’s funny that you ignore hen’s standoffish at best attitude towards him simply because you know that if hen was blatantly against him, you would have no leg to stand on because they’re never going to treat him as more important than hen
idk how what “context clues” you’re talking about in early eps regarding tommy being gay, but even if there were, that doesn’t excuse his actions. there has been no narrative development past his early episodes portrayal aside from them slapping a rainbow on him so they had someone to get buck out of the closet
i can direct you to countless people who agree with me on this, so i am not speaking for myself unlike most tommy cultists bc you all just woul rather take lukewarm queer rep when it’s a white racist man than the potentially groundbreaking queer story that can be told
sorry but that doesn’t give me positive vibes
you people love to bash main poc characters for their flaws and storylines when they actually take the time to tell these stories and provide context, yet when tommy is racist and misogynistic to hen and chimney, you all suddenly find it fine to forgive him the moment he kissed buck
i don’t claim to be on some “moral high ground” but you people have no room to claim that either when your fandom are out here spreading nothing but anonymous hate to people who call you out on your bullshit, while you also harrass the cast and crew for not giving your favorite racist a spotlight.
i fear you don’t have any stake to claim on whether or not someone is or isn’t “morally superior”
do me a favor and block me so i don’t have to lose braincells trying to process the bullshit that comes put of your brain while trying to defend a racist man
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graendoll · 6 months ago
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So I just read this post and have some additional thoughts. I'm making a new post so as to avoid any potential shipping nonsense on OP because no one wants that.
Basically OP is talking about how Buck's storyline is about learning how to love and be loved and Eddie's is about self-discovery (very abbreviated overview...please read the original).
Anyway, Buck's storyline being around learning how to love and be loved made me start thinking about Tommy and how he fits into this.
(Full disclosure I ship Buddie. I am not a multishipper, but generally don't have a problem with other ships. I just avoid their content because it hurts my feelings 😅.)
The way that Tommy has been presented thus far is, imo, another stepping stone on the path of Buck realizing what he really wants so he can find a fulfilling endgame love/partner. The post I linked goes through the lessons Buck learned from his other romantic partners, and so far Tommy has been framed as "the LI that makes Buck realize he's queer".
The few scenes they've had together up to now really don't feel like the way an endgame LI gets presented. I know folks are rooting for him and Buck to be it, but the writers would have to pivot a lot to do that. (Not that they can't, just...it WOULD be a pivot).
First, Tommy did not pursue Buck. Buck is pretty consistently chasing after his failed romances and Tommy is no different.
Second, the narrative choices have inserted Tommy in specific scenarios between Buck and Eddie. Tommy and Buck have really only been Eddie-less two times. First, when they had coffee and Buck asked him out and second, when they kissed in the hospital. Both of these were ways to move Buck's story forward and had little to do with the development of Buck/Tommy because narratively they're entirely one sided. Tommy comes to coffee so Buck can admit he wants to try something and they kiss in the hospital so Buck can come out to the firefam without making a lengthy, time sucking speech.
Tommy is there in both cases to move Buck's story along. Every other interaction between the two has either had Eddie in the scene or mentioned him a strange amount. I don't remember any of the other people Buck dated being framed so closely to Eddie or having Eddie haunt their relationship the way he has with Tommy.
This doesn't mean Eddie and Buck are endgame, but what it does mean is that Tommy is LIKELY a plot device to propel Buck's narrative along. (A narrative which includes a pre-packaged family, btw, who love him exactly as he is. Which maybe he'll decide he DOESN'T want, we don't know.) As OP of the linked post said, Buck is learning how to love and be loved and Tommy, while significant what with the bisexuality of it all, really just feels like another step in this process to me.
Obviously this is just one woman's opinion and like OP I'm old and have been disappointed too many times to put my whole chest into believing Buddie is endgame, but right now the narrative isn't really implying Buck/Tommy is either so whatever happens I think Buck is still a work in progress regarding his HEA.
(Also it shouldn't need to be said but please don't get spicy about ship wars kthxbye)
Edited because tumblr is being weird about embedded links on my phone....
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dearweirdme · 4 months ago
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"Birthdays", "awkward", "Taennie", "imagination", "TAE", "liar, attention seeker". If these words do not leave your mouth or a jikooker's, you’ll have a stroke.
There. Fixed it for ya 😘
Also, literally no one here is having a stroke over any jikook video. Maybe anon you need to "get out of your imagination" . Y'all so desperately want us to feel something about those teasers and clips that you are willing to imagine that we are having strokes over them. It's a fckn entertainment show, not a "day in the life of an idol couple" vlog series. They went to those locations with a crew, those aren't clips from their private trips. Why tf would we feel anything bad about a travel show? We've seen multiple seasons of BV and ITS. We know the drill. The only difference this time is that instead of the seven of them, it's just two. That's it. It might be a huge deal for y'all, as it should be (would've been for me if it were taekook), but trust me, we really, really aren't bothered.
Btw, didn't jimin travel to the US for hobi? He shows up for all of them bcs that's who he is. He is a very caring friend. What you forgot to mention is, jimin himself said that he hadn't met jk on his bday last year, infact he met yoongi on his own bday eve, who brought a cake for him. Why do y'all always ignore all the other members in favour of proving your narratives? Jimin himself said he was only close to yoongi and hobi last year. As for jk's bday in '22, hobi, jin and jimin all went to wish him. Y'all really need to stop singling him out. Just like how jungkook only saw jimin and hobi. Similarly in solo era, jimin only met yoongi and hobi. Seems like y'all are trying to downplay his relationship with yoongi here.
"Jungkook said “speak to someone” and not himself because they couldn’t even sit down and have a heart to heart" 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Sure love. Believe this if this gives you happiness. Why tf would they want to have a heart to heart infront of cameras??? Or do y'all really believe that anything and everything that's shown on tv is real and unscripted?
"For all you know jennie was probably the reason he became a little bit happier. " Y'all really need to stop using taennie. Proving anything in regards to tae ain't doing shit for your ship. Why is your side hell bent on proving him straight and involved? What does it have anything to do with jikook? Someone does have something to do with jikook though, and she's been a bit quiet since dropping those bombshells. But you'll never see us even talking about her after that. Bcs we really don't care about jimin's dating life. But jikookers are weirdly interested in tae and his alleged relationships, going so far as to pair him with his wooga squad friends.
"You’ve turned these boys lives into a lie so that you could force a reality that isn’t true onto them" No love that's all on you and your fellow dummies. The people who believe that a queer couple will enlist together. The ones who refuse to believe that jk and tae are very close, closer than any other pair in BTS. The ones who've oversexualize jikook to the point of not even understanding the difference b/w reality and ff.
You have an entire series coming in less than a month and instead of being happy about it,here you are, picking up unnecessary fights. Are y'all ever satisfied with your ship? Does your ship even exist without mentioning taekook and tae?
Hi anon!
It's always the same things with them. Just like they have their chosen moments to proof Jkk (GCF Tokyo, RoseBowl, Hickey-gate, enlistment, coupledays... some weird number theories... you know the drill) they also have their chosen topics to disprove Tkk (Taennie, Get out of your imagination, ITS talk). I think a lot is about contesting with Tkkrs for them? Like.. the usual rebuttle to a Jkk debunk is to come with something about Tkk. As if Tkk being not real would make Jkk real suddenly.
I have seen the birthday talk so much it gets boring... and the thing is, it's always about Jm going to Jk's birthday and not the other way around (I am actually unaware of the times Jk spent Jm's birthday with him outside of when they were together because of band stuff... anyone know?). But Jk actually does not always spend Jm's birthday with him right? When they were in Busan it was clear they were with their respective families.. and not spending Jm's birthday with their families combined. So how does all of that hold?
I'm very tired of Jkkrs saying things like... you are turning Jkk into fanservice and reducing their relationship to only that. No we are not! Not around here anyways.. and I'm not going to be held responsible for whatever it is other Tkkrs are saying.
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someonetooksendnoodles · 3 months ago
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children of anguish and anarchy rambles and convoluted thoughts bc i have a lot of them that need to get out of my brain. indulge me if you so desire and beware of spoilers below
CAA really said yeah Zélie bound everyone’s life forces together in CVV and instead of making that relevant again we are instead going to completely erase one of the bound life forces and then never talk about it again
#justiceforroën like he really just disappeared. never to be seen again. i was really hoping with the expansion of worlds that we would be able to get a glimpse into the world he left behind and have that be an issue the group dealt with but instead he just *poofed* out of existence
also i am 10000% on the Amari is queer train and also think the potential for Zélie and Amari ships are *chefs kiss X1000000* and maybe it’s just me but with all the betrayal between Tzain and Amari AND Zélie, i would be more ok with Amari being more explicitly queer in this book and moving on from Tzain if it meant they could talk it out bc it just doesn’t feel right for them to not. but hey they spent the majority of the book fighting for theo lives and amani was the only one with truly any downtime so it’s no surprise she’s the only one that was somewhat able to grow and whatnot.
fun fact: for the ending of CVV i really thought inan betrayed zélie again and remember being so so so distraught at the way his character was just decimated like that. happy i was wrong on that regard, but i think his journey this book was the most compelling and interesting actually and had me being the most invested. important addition: i haven’t actually finished the book yet but i got to a point mentally where i needed to i wasn’t alone in my mild (potentially moderate) disappointment in the book overall (i do know about the sacrifice btw but i haven’t formed feelings yet)
ya idk happy amari is more explicitly queer and we got more fantastic world building and fight sequences, but i think overall CAA wasn’t what i was expecting for both better and for worse 🤷
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raccoon-in-a-dumpster · 2 months ago
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I am in the editing stage for The Big Breakdown Of The 33 Paragraph Essay Ask, but here's the short version:
I think they mostly wanted to try to explain their stance one more time. This is my best attempt at a short breakdown, without bias. The only reason I’m trying to keep my bias out is because I think it’s better to try to extract the core of the essay in the purest essence possible when trying to explain someone else’s point. Ik I’ve said some variation of that already but I want to say it again.
The main points are:
An attempt to reiterate what they believe ‘proship’ means, and why they think your version is…lacking?? Illogical?? Secret Third (But Similar) Option? Or just straight-up wrong. Somewhere in there.
An attempt to convey that they understand why you won’t believe them. 
I gotta say tho, the way they actually went into that (further than just an ‘I Get It’) being so close to how I put earlier it is. Unsettling. As I’m typing this out, I don’t honestly remember if I got to that point in the Thirty-Three Theses* yet when I said something about it. If yes, it was probably just fresh in my brain. Either way every time i read it again I feel like someone i don’t know just briefly glanced through the mirror at me.
Their third point is basically “I’m afraid that if it’s okay to harass pedophiles, then queer people will be harassed under the pretense of us all being pedophiles just because homophobic/transphobic/etc dickheads want us to leave. So that’s why I’ve decided I’m Proship.” with a very dramatic lead-up that implies concern for you, + a moment of ‘btw I don’t support that stuff myself. For the record.’
There is a reminder of that one time an anon accused you of pedophilia. I do, actually, remember that, because I remember wondering if the anon just heard that you were trans and suddenly saw red. I couldn’t think of any other reason to call a minor a pedophile, unless they just wanted to upset you for no reason? Idk. anyways.
There is also expressed concern for people who aren’t necessarily queer, but people who are writing about pedophilic/incestuous relationships who either don’t know any better, are trying to deal with their own trauma through writing, or adults who aren’t writing anything like that but it’s For or About kids and People Will Call It’s Sus.
Still, their main concern seems to be queer people. 
Long-winded explanation of why they won’t come off anon, which boils down to ‘i am not going to get harassed because i do not need that damage to my mental health’
I don’t know why they worded the last few blocks like a mysterious warning. I think it and the war drums comment are probably because they got weirdly dramatic and self-righteous about it? Idk. Either way they’re expressing concern for you (whether real or fabricated, who knows), with the implication that they think you’re being used/manipulated. Or that they think you could easily be used/manipulated? One of the two.
I have no idea if any of this is performative, or if it’s entirely sincere. The last bit is kind of insulting to you, even if it’s indirect. But what I’m hearing there is “you are voting for the Face-Eating Leopards Party, who promise to only eat the faces of Bad People, but you don’t realize that they can and will easily pin the ‘Bad People’ label on you and your demographic.”
Also, regarding their definition of proship: It’s less about what you ship and how you treat other people for shipping things, whether you like the ship or not.
So by their definition, even if someone did ship something like, idk, Dreammare (most common icky ship that I hear of), they’re not necessarily proship. If they believe that people shouldn’t be harassed over what they ship, and also stick to that and aren’t a fucking hypocrite, then they’re proship. Whether or not the ship in question is pedophilic, abusive, toxic, pretty average, or pure wholesome fluff has no bearing on it. 
I go more into that in the Big Breakdown.
I'm going to have to go places in a moment or two, but when I get back I should be able to finish my editing.
...At least, in the google doc. I'm debating whether tumblr would have better formatting and if I should make it a tumblr post instead of sending a link to the google doc, but if I did then I'd have to fuck with the images, and change some of the OTHER formatting because tumblr doesn't do underline for non-links.......
Either way, send me a message or something if you decide you want to see the whole thing. We're at 7525 words, which includes the essay from Proship Anon themself. most of it's me though
My “Thirty-Three Theses” comment is a reference to the Ninety-Five Theses that made Protestantism a thing. I only reference it because that’s a lot of fucking theses, and they were nailed to the door of the church that the author was bitching about and I think that’s funny. Otherwise it’s entirely irrelevant. I just wanted to share the joke.
7525 WORDS??? JEESSUS CHRIST MAN
but yeah the whole "anon calling me a tranny pedophile" was actually cause they were originally harassing my older brother for being a "tranny pedophile" (they did call BOTH of us trannies so.) despite the fact we're both minors, and also "what're you doing at the devil's sacrament" shit of "see you on Einstein's (epstien's) island"
but like... jesus. you're doing god's work ong.
and like. honestly. i do not give a shit about what someone draws/writes to cope with stuff, that's not my business, yk? my stance on that is that you. should not post it online. keep it between you and your therapist or whatever
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ornithia · 2 years ago
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lmao i got blocked for this
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i, a living, breathing, real-life existing aroace individual, a literal example of the very category you specifically attempted to white-knight, asked a genuine question regarding the puritanical "white-washing" of the general identity to which i and several of my peers belong to - but i suppose confronting your own bigotry was just too much to handle, eh?
let's go over your "values":
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so you're not a "radical inclusionist" (w/e that means) ... but by your own logic, excluding certain marginalised groups (such as the select "undesirable" and "dirty" asexuals that do not fit the pure stereotype mold) precisely means you're also not a real leftist, but a "Republican in training" (this is literally YOUR own definition in YOUR own words)
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so ... people like you, then? also awfully convenient that all of this info that constitutes blocking was hidden below a read-more, btw. (also, you commented on someone ELSE's post. i'd say that's fair game - maybe DON'T comment publicly at all if you truly don't want to engage with anyone, especially not if you're requiring them to read a whole TOS essay of your "voids" and "warranties")
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this one was a little further down ... buddy. MOST people who ship alastor are asexuals themselves, safely exploring their identities and analysing their experiences through a fictional proxy. i can ASSURE you the majority of us are not aphobic, we're simply diverse, as human beings are wont to be. trying to fit us all into a neat little box and weeding out those who do not fit your standards or rhetoric, on the other hand - now THAT'S aphobic as all shit
going over the DNI list now and:
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lmao WHAT. please research the history of humanity and the arts, i GUARANTEE you that most people who've written/created analogs of terrible things (since the very dawn of human creativity) have not PERSONALLY engaged in horrific deviancy so much as commentated on it, in order to make a point about its horrors and use it to tell a greater message. (also "predators in the making" is literally a dog whistle used in right-wing circles, specifically the ones that embrace terf-rhetoric, are homophobic, anti-feminist, and pro-censorship with the intended goal of resetting society to the "nuclear family" aka institute a social order in which the queers don't exist, women exist purely to spread their legs and pop out babies for their masters Men, children are DANGEROUSLY isolated and taught to be ignorant of the world that exists beyond their neighborhood so that when they eventually grow up they end up xenophobic Adults unable to cope with the notions of Different and New and far less able to creatively relate, empathise, or put themselves in others' shoes, for better or worse.
also, THIS is why ACTUAL critical thinking matters, and not just lazy broad strokes of some supposed "general morality", like holy shit you'd think you'd realise this given you consider yourself a "💜Beginner Satantic-Pagan Witch" and all the maligned things that THAT would imply based on a surface-level understanding of satan/lucifer's origins without actual research into the religion, like - based on the name alone, most people would assume you have a sadistic and LAUGHABLY disproportionate desire to see humans suffer due to a petty and envious "sibling rivalry" over the fact that god doted on humans just a little "too much" for lucifer's personal liking (per the canonical texts of the abrahamic religions)
OBVIOUSLY that's not the case, as there's ALWAYS more to the picture; you criticals should try applying this philosophy more often, you all seem so miserable all the time it's hard to imagine how this COULDN'T help
as for the rest of the list ... honestly, it isn't terrible. MOST of it is reasonable. pity, as we could've potentially been friends - had you just chosen to NOT speak on behalf of ALL asexuals with 0 consideration for our varied and complex nuance and spooked yourself into blocking me over a reality check
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flyhqpod · 6 months ago
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Hi! So I recently started my 7th or so rewatch of Haikyuu and got back into the fandom (not that I ever really left but I have brainrot phases like I assume everyone who is into many fandoms does) and one of my main ships being AsaNoya I decided to look through their tumblr tag for a bit, which is how I came across this podcast! I don’t listen to many podcasts but from the little information I found here (it’s queer, it’s about Haikyuu, you talk about AsaNoya being gay for two eps) I knew I had to give it a try.
And I love it! I haven’t listened to all the episodes yet (started with 0&1, then skipped to the AsaNoya ones and continued from there, but I’ll go back to listen to the rest) but it’s so so good.
I love the bits where you go into analysis of themes and characters, the research into certain things, and most importantly: the gayness of it all. My favorite part of the episodes are probably the character spotlights because every single Haikyuu character is so interesting and compelling and deserves to be discussed and analysed in detail! So far I have also always risked the spoiler zone even though I haven’t read the manga because some of the connections you make are super fun and interesting (and I’ve already been spoiled some details from fanfic anyway).
Okay this is getting long enough that it should’ve probably been an email so I’ll wrap it up. Thank you for doing this gay little podcast and thank you extra for highlighting two of my favorite ships (AsaNoya and Kuroken).
And as for a question/suggestion: I don’t know if maybe you’ve touched on this in one of the episodes I haven’t listened to yet but as a trans person I’m always interested in peoples gender-related headcanons and I think Haikyuu and its fandom has so much potential for that. So I think it’d be super cool if you could talk about some trans hcs you have or have seen, or Rule 63 (volleyball lesbians letsgooo).
Best regards,
Vico :)
Hi Vico, first of all, thank you for listening! we made the pod for the gays and we're so glad you found us. your kind words warm our hearts 💕
this is rainbow, btw, and I love having another asanoya stan around! don't feel like you have to listen to all of the episodes, we get it if you just want to listen to the ones with your favs. (though every episode is super gay, that's our solemn promise).
the q&a episode has a lot of gender stuff in it, but youre always welcome to dm or email us if you want to talk gender 😊 I love writing about volleyball lesbians and have a few threads on twitter that I need to turn into full fics someday.
thanks for reaching out with this question! love, rainbow and em
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dichromaticdyke · 7 months ago
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re: skwisgaar attraction myth debunk turned feminist critique (AMAZING post btw) - feel free to ignore/not respond if it's too much/incomprehensible (english is fake)/rambly
honestly i feel like said post gets into the lesser discussed aspect of the mtl fandom as i believe a lot of us want to view it as different than other fandoms with a majority male cast; but it's not. this is a fandom full of misogyny-affected folks, especially of tme persuasion, who never outgrew or if new, elect to partake in, ye olde fandom habits of internalized misogyny shining through like it's their goddamn guiding light.
i dont know exactly how to phrase this in a demographically correct way, but it feels like despite the mtl fandom being overwhelmingly queer and a lot of the misogyny-affected tme folks being trans... the "i'm not like other girls" mentality was not broken out of; people decided "i am not a woman" and suddenly unpacking internalized misogyny wasn't a thing they decided they had to do anymore!
like. it feels like mtl fandom is about being "quirky" and shipping dethklok together but god forbid you wanna focus on the women in the show; abigail, amber, trindle, etc. it's... a tale as old as time (as those of us who have been in fandom spaces for a while would know) and it's so fucking saddening.
i've seen media analysis and critique of this show (MOSTLY YOURS!!) but more often than not it feels like the fandom doesn't want to delve into that either; they like mtl on the surface level. because it's edgy. because it's metal. because it's funny. because they find xyz member of the cast sexy. and i feel like this interwined internalized misogyny being projected out via mtl fandom behaviors with this complete lack of regard for the quality aspects of the show and the depths of the characters within it... i dunno. as i said, it's saddening.
...again, i hope this wasn't too word salad-like, or rambly, or long, or anything, but oh my god your post got the gears turning in my brain head so full of all the thoughts ever-
and yet again, AMAZING analysis, incredible dedication, and fantastic feminist critique.
don’t worry darling this wasn’t too long of an ask and i find it VERY intriguing.
because yeah i do absolutely fall into both camps of this to an extent. i love shipping the boys and talking about them, because i do love them as characters, but yeah it’s so easy to fall into the trap of not caring about the female characters in the show. and i would agree, again to an extent, that the female characters were not given much care or time from the show to properly be explored in a meaningful way (though, how much of that was a deliberate choice by the crew and how much of that just happened due to adult swim meddling in the latter years, we’ll probably never know). i always find it interesting, for example, how fandom will latch onto magnus but not care about abigail, despite abigail having more screentime and having a major impact on the plot of the show (had the band never broke up over her, salacia wouldn’t have attacked when he did, forcing them to finally learn about the prophecy and the doomstar arguably before they were ready, AND without salacia’s attack, the revengencers wouldn’t have been able to catch dethklok at the funeral and kidnap toki and abigail). of course with abigail, it’s not just misogyny playing a role there, but racism too, though luckily there have been some people calling out fandom treatment of her.
i’ve talked a bit before about how much it sucks that abigail wasn’t given really anything to work with, but it also makes sense given that the show is from dethklok’s point of view and they don’t really care about her either. that’s why it feels so strange (and SHOULD feel strange) to see nathan proposing to abigail in aotd—we didn’t know anything about her because he didn’t know anything about her, and that was kind of the whole point of that arc in the movie. women are objects to dethklok, and because of that, they become objects in the show, and i do think the statements “this is a deliberate critique of misogyny reinforced both by powerful men and metal culture” AND “this is a result of the crew failing to create and integrate meaningful female characters into the show” can both co-exist. honestly, i think mtl has a lot to say about gender (idk how much of that was intentional, but i’ve been thinking about it for a While and want to make a long analysis post or video about it at some point).
regarding the fandom spaces i mean. fuck, you’re talking to a decently popular lesbian mtl creator. i have one foot in the camp of being a misogyny-affected person (tme also, for reference) who makes up a majority of the fandom, but also the other foot is in the “not attracted to men” camp. as much as i like the shipping and smut writing for funsies, i genuinely feel like there’s more to this show than most people give it credit for. i have written so many analyses about it (with plans for more) for a reason. i’ve been in online fandom spaces for about half my life now, and no other piece of media has made me have this many fits of divine madness.
all this to say, yeah, it’s a silly adult swim show, i’m sure 95% of what we see on screen we’re not meant to think too much about. but the reality is that, the text belongs to the readers once it is out in the world, and the way readers respond to it can reflect internalized biases or thoughts. that’s not always the case! sometimes i just wanna see two silly long-haired men kiss because i think it would fix them. but you don’t leave your biases and oppressive thoughts at the door once you enter fandom. and i certainly don’t leave my literature MA or gender studies degree at the door either!
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will80sbyers · 2 years ago
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I hate when people compare Steddie to Byler. Those two ships (in canon especially) are not the same. At all. They act like Byler not happening wouldn't be queerbaiting because then Steddie would have been queerbaiting. When it never was??? Steddie not happening is not and never will queerbaiting. It doesn't make it queerbaiting when actors are asked about the ship and they say they like the idea or whatever. It annoys me SO much when people act like these ships are the same thing or that Byler wouldn't be queerbaiting - or when people say Steddie was queerbaiting because then it makes people say that Byler not happening wouldn't be queerbaiting.
This isn't me hating on the ship btw. I think it's fun. I don't care if you ship it, I do like it as a fun ship too. But it was not fucking queerbaiting and Steddie and Byler regarding canon material are not the same at all. Steddie was never romantically coded. Neither of them is confirmed to be a queer character and being in love with the other.
not much to add to this! Steddie does not exist in canon, deal with it people. I'm tired of this discourse, byler is completely different under every single aspect
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irrelevant-iguanadon · 11 months ago
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Sup new pinned post hi I'm cordy 👋
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Shoot me an ask if u want btw, I like to think I'm pretty chill.
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Anyways um fun facts about me:
Nonbinary/queer/demisexual yeah we love gay ppl
ADHD as fuck (I have the silly)
I'm in college!! So I'm a bit busy sometimes but it's okay!! Anyways I'm a film major (w/ a minor in gender studies) if you were curious
Speaking of I'm generally really really passionate about women's rights/queer rights/sex ed/aspec ed/trans rights so if you ever wanna get me ranting like hell send me an ask asking about something specific regarding those. Just don't be purposefully trying to get me pissed off at you about it plz.
I have some silly hobbies which include art (mostly just pencil/pen doodles and some digital stuff though), plushie making (that one is recent), and video games!! I love video games!!!
I also like fun clothes and outfits but only when it's niceish out, when it's cold I default to sweatpants and a hoodie 💀
Anyways going back to the art stuff I have a redbubble!!! Go buy some stickers or smth if you want!!
Moving On
Fandoms (this is gonna go in depth with each so they are titles for yee so just scroll past the ones u don't care about)
Soulsborne 🗡
I've beaten all of them except for Sekiro and DS2's DLCs (and the DeS remake but I've played the original)
Bloodborne is my favorite (and also favorite game of all time)
Fav characters consist of Lady Maria, Adeline, Simon, The Hunter, Lucatiel, Aldia, Hyetta, Blaidd, Marika, and Rennala
Speaking of, fav ships are (f or nb) hunter x maria, maria x adeline, lucatiel x (f or nb) Bearer of The Curse, and Marika x rennala
Fav bosses: either laurence or orphan of kos, penetrator, manus, smelter demon, sister frieda, and dragon lord
FNaF 🐻
I've been here since before fnaf world, I'm a veteran 💀
Favorite game is 4 but HW1 is better game play wise imo
Big fan of any nightmares, fredbear, springbonnie, rxq, ennard, funtime foxy, and roxy
As for like human characters, I love both movie and game mike, movie Vanessa, Cassie, and game Vanessa's potential
I like a lot of the big fangames a lot too, my favorites being the DSaF series, FNaC 3, and Super Fnaf.
I think the books suck ass (unless they're the logbook or cookbook <3), and the mimic is fucking stupid and should've just been a digital only thing, w/o a physical robot
I'm just salty about security breach in general
Game Theory/Team Theorist
This is Matpat hate free zone!!!
I've been watching his videos since 2015, this man practically raised me
My favorite channels atm are GTLive and Style Theory lol
I actually like his fnaf theories, not necessarily bc I think they're right but bc they're fun and he presents them in an entertaing way lol
Biggest Ash and Amy fan everytime they're in an episode of smth it's slay. Head editor Dan is super cool too.
Best GTLive series/vids are the murder of sonic the hedgehog, JRs, FNaC 3, Bad End Theater, the FNaF lore off, and Trombone Champ
Pokemon ⚡️
First game was white 2 back in like 2014 I think, my first starter was tepig
Favs of each category are emboar for a starter, white kyurem for legend, genesect for mythical, idrc about the ultra beasts, slither wing for paradox, mega lucario, and volcarona overall
Fav human characters are rika, prof sada/ai sada (same for turo), volo, nessa, Lillie and lusamine, ghetsis, N, all of the gen 5 gym leaders tbh
I also like pmd2 a lot!! It's one of my fav games ever actually
Pokemon Rejuvenation ✨️
I haven't played the most recent chapter 💀💀
I love all the characters a ton honestly but I'm the biggest risa raider fan
Sonic 🦔
This is a recent one and my current hyperfixation lol
Favs are Rouge, Blaze, Amy, Shadow, and Espio
Fav ship is blazamy <3 but my fav platonic relationship is rouge and shadow
I'm currently working a couple AUs so maybe those will be a thing on here evntually
No joke got into sonic bc me and my roommate watched the gt live tmosth playthrough together and we both got hyperfixated
Currently working my way through the games!! I just started though so I'm only on sonic adventure 1 and I haven't started the 2d list at all
Also trying to watch the shows but I've only seen the first few mins of X, and a couple Boom eps. I've finished s2 of Prime though!! Excited for 3!!
Also want to eventually read the idw comics but haven't gotten a chance yet.
All sonic girls are Sapphic btw <3
Hatchetfield 🎶
I've watched a few other starkid shows but these are the only ones I've latched on to
I've seen all the content up to this point save hey melissa
alice, bill, grace, steph, lex, hannah, becky, linda, and mrs holloway are my favs
My fav lib is tinky <3
Fav musical is npmd but fav nmt is killer track
Fav starkids are mariah, angela, jon, corey, and curt but all of them are slays fr
Heathers 🍵
I've been here since like late late 2019
Never seen the show but I have seen the off broadway slime tutorial a decent amount and I own a DVD of the movie
I love!!!!! Veronica Sawyer!!!!!
Chansaw if my fav ship by far I love them but McDuke is also slay and there's definitely reason to ship Veronica with almost any other student in that movie save Kurt and Ram lol
Big fan of the AUs where JD and Veronica are platonic besties ngl
Not a huge fan of the West End version though
I didn't know what emoji to out here bro
Sea of Stars 💫
Played it for the first time in December of 2023 and fell in love omg
Seraï is my fav love her <3
Every woman in that game loves women fr
I have lots of thoughts about the bosses I'll post about them someday
God this took me 2 hours I'm gonna go to bed now 💀
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scovilletwothousand · 2 years ago
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this is a PERSONAL OPINION but my personal pet peeve is those people who are like “i thought mewgulf were married and they weren’t i’m so heartbroken, i can’t believe it was just fanservice. but now i like zeenunew they’re definitely married!”
like please, how do you get tricked by the EXACT SAME KIND of fanservice not once, but twice?
have none of them heard the phrase “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”
EDIT: guys i need you to know that i have a personal life and don’t keep up with the lives of bl actors, idk what woody show you’re talking about and i only vaguely know of masked singer. i know there are some out actors like cooheart, fluke natouch, and porsche apiwat, and porsche is actually married! he acted in a bl with his literal husband! like there are some very cool queer actors in thailand! this is about people who fully believed mewgulf were married, raised hell when they weren’t, then turned and fully believed zeenunew were married without even possibly thinking they might be similar. (this was before the masked singer btw, i heard this take MONTHS ago, like right when cutie pie was coming out, im just fucking slow at voicing my thoughts) this is about a very specific brand of people i’ve only seen like twice on the internet
LIKE I SAID IN THE TAGS they are adorable, they have great chemistry, the whole shebang. i’m willing to believe that they’re dating, but if it blows up as fanservice JUST LIKE MEWGULF then i don’t wanna hear anything, because this is about being victim to fanservice once and then when a similar thing happens just accepting it as is without even the thought that it COULD BE fanservice agair
if i’m flat out wrong and zeenunew do turn out to be dating or married, then i’m happy for them! i’m glad they found happiness! i’m just saying that bl couples (not just mewgulf, not even just thai ship couples) have a history of being all over each other and then completely ignoring each other once the contract is up. that’s why it’s fanservice. it’s not bad (like i said, zeenunew is adorable) but we KNOW that almost everything in celebrity life is fabricated, then fabricated to look real, then get tricked every time!
just like, believe what you want, because that’s what i’m doing, but be careful!
also, in regards to one other thing, i’m not???? a mewgulf stan???? i literally never was? i almost had to dnf tharntype and i hated it so much that i didn’t even watch tharntype 2. i haven’t seen literally anything else new or gulf have put out. mewgulf was adorable and zeenunew is adorable, but i’m not fans of either pair, i just enjoyed cutie pie so i get a fuckton of content about it and zeenunew lmfao
i also haven’t seen literally any of the “coming out” things you guys are talking about so maybe i am wrong! i wrote this post at like three in the morning because it came to mind as something i was thinking about MONTHS ago when cutie pie was just airing, and i thought about it again when i saw a zeenunew edit on tiktok. maybe i am wrong! i’m a cynic and an asshole! and i’m happy for zeenunew if they’re happy together! it’s just my personal philosophy not to ship real life human beings so i just get bothered when it happens, even to married couples!
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ihateliterature · 2 years ago
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There are reasons why there are so many aspec (especially acespec) antis, all of them are bad, all of them are avoidable
Many acespec ppl, regardless of whether they identify as sex repulsed, neutral or even positive, are uncomfortable with sex. It just comes with the territory, it's normal and we all go through it at one point or another. That's why a lot of them feel uncomfortable in fandom spaces, especially queer fandom spaces, as they are usually shipping heavy and that can feel alienating. These communities have a history of treating aspec fans like garbage for the sake of shipping, which alienated aspec fans even further
There are a lot of acespec proshippers and even just acespec folks active in sexual parts of the fandom. But compared to the rest it feels like they are few and and far between
The main complaint aspec people have about the over focus of shipping in fandom is that in shippers' zeal to ship they are often willfully invalidating the lived realities of aspec people for the sake of jokes and "arguing" the validity of their ship and get defensive when called out for it, which often proves that allo shippers care more about drawing and writing fictional characters fucking then about the erasure of aspec people, which they are collaborating to. All of this feeling like a slap in the face, especially coming from queer centric spaces
Now, after all this harassment, disillusionment and fake support, there comes the other side of queer fandom: the antis. They tell these acespec people that there is nothing wrong with them, that the dirty degenerate proshitters are the problem, that they make everything about sex and never create any gen content (provably false, btw). But they are not like that, they understand, they love platonic ships and understand how someone can be uncomfortable with sex, they are better, more pure, then those freaks who, frankly, are mostly just predators looking for victims
It's manipulation, plain and simple. This kind of rethoric is particularly effective on acespec people because, after feeling incomplete and broken because of your lack of *something*, being told that that exact thing makes you somehow better is an alluring idea. It's easy to fall for it, and many do. It doesn't make them bad people, it just proves they are desperate for any crumb of acceptance
Just like adult antis manipulate minors by calling themselves "safe adults", roping them into sharing porn in discord groups and harassing artists under the guise of good will, so do allo antis manipulate acespecs to their side of the argument through faux ally ship
Everyone is to blame for it. Antis with their morbid history of manipulation and love bombing and proshippers for being over vigilant and overzealous at the expence of aspecs
I'm a proship aroace and I've seen this happening countless times. I've seen young aspecs having their complicated feelings regarding sex used as manipulation tools by people who simply wish to use them as weapons against someone else and it breaks my heart every time
I made this mostly for aspec fans, so they don't fall into these kinds of traps. I know neither side can change, I've lost hope for all of them
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b-rainlet · 2 years ago
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okay but where is my hot helaegon wedding night these writers expect me to believe aegon creampied his sister?? PROOF. want to see with my own eyes.
I know this is a ship specific ask but tbh, why do we see so little of anything regarding the greens??
Like, we don't see Helaena/Aegon getting married, we also don't see Viserys/Alicent getting married but both of these scenes could've been direct parallels to the fucking awful wedding Laenor and Rhaenyra went through (that is by far my favourite episode from the show btw, I would've eaten up more weddings full of tears and terror, like pls give that to me).
Also, I just know that if we would've gotten a scene of Alicent walking 'down the aisle' (if you even do that in Westeros lmao) there would've been swarms of people making gifsets of that and putting it next to Aegon's coronation going ' Two Lambs willingly going to their own slaughter to please their family'.
Also also, this show is full of scenes where babes are birthed and yet we don't see Helaena birthing twins?? Like that's not an even bigger effort and more dangerous than birthing one babe?
(I heard that in the book, Rhaenyra dotes on Helaena, it would've been interesting if we would've seen her getting anxious hearing Helaena is gonna have twins, considering what childbirth did to her mother and yes I know she's not around when the twins are born, but word does travel, she must've heard of it. )
But considering we don't even see Maelor, what can we expect truly.
And just, the more I think about it, the more I'm like: !!!
They could've done so much in terms of paralleling both Aegon/Alicent and Aegon/Rhaenyra.
Like Rhaenyra, Aegon understands that it's his duty to produce heirs but does not restrict himself when it comes to seeking pleasure (unlike her, he doesn't get too much flack for it, which also could've served as an interesting dynamic between these two - which the writers do hint at, Rhaenyra being jealous of Aegon, but not just because he's a threat to her as claimant to the throne but also because simply by being a boy, he automatically has more Freedom than her).
But at the same time, Aegon has absolutely no Freedom at all! He has to do what is expected of him and unlike Rhaenyra, he can't fuck up too badly and still have the King on his side.
He's in a cage and he has the burden of needing to appease his Mother and his Grandsire just like Alicent had to please her Father and he knows all he can do is pull a little at the leash around his neck but run free? Never.
Anyway, both Aegon and Rhaenyra are mirrors of each other in the worst way (Both the queer ones, the debauched ones, the ones seen in brothels and known for siring bastards) whereas Aemond is 100% his Mother, the one to contrast his brother, the dutiful one, the one with value and honour.
And what about that wedding night you were talking about anon! Imagine Aegon on top of Helaena, eyes closed, grunting and thrusting with a pained expression on his face (and he's imagining he's far away, imagining he's fucking some servant girl or a whore but not his sister, never his sister) while Helaena is lying on her back, just taking it, looking off to the side and you're struck with this thought that - besides all the love Alicent has for her children - Helaena grew up to share the same Fate Alicent had to endure, confined in a tower, made to produce heirs, no worth to her other than her ability to conceive sons.
And maybe Aegon tells Helaena he's sorry (maybe after but maybe during, whispering the words into her shoulder when he's getting close, rubbing his tears into her skin) but Helaena just goes 'I know' with that far away look, and they don't cuddle but Helaena reaches over to hold Aegon's hand while he keeps sniffling and that's enough for the moment, more than their Mother would've gotten.
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