#they just mean it as a joke. theyre not doing this maliciously.
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It's a late Friday evening in Midorijima, and that means that it's time for the weekly Benishigure meetup at the Black Needle. It's always a good opportunity to meet new members, get drunk, and have some fun with the other guys you'd usually miss due to conflicting schedules. Today's meeting is a bit more special- Aoba decided to join in, which he doesn't always do. He's the boss' boyfriend, but he's not officially a member himself- he has, however, gotten close to the gang in the time they've been together, so everyone just treats him like an honorary Benishigure, which both makes him happy, in a way, and annoys him to no end, given all the attention he recieves and the fact that he's a subject of never-ending jokes and bits (in a friendly way, of course).
Everyone's a bit drunk by now, laughing and toasting for anything that comes to their heads, no matter how small and insignificant. Koujaku is smoking a cigarette and sipping on his sake, taking it all in and quietly enjoying seeing the people he brought together. Aoba had a bit to drink too; He rarely does, but something tempted him to drink today- perhaps a desire to join in and fully enjoy the atmosphere was stronger than his usual convictions.
The conversation turns to relationships, as it always does at some point when a group of drunks congregates.
"Wait, how long have you two been together? Like, a year?" One of the Benishigures asks as he turns to Aoba and Koujaku. "That's pretty impressive, I gotta admit- it's probably the longest anyone stayed with Koujaku"
He barks a laugh, like he was suprised at how funny he found his own joke. Aoba looks at Koujaku with suspicion, but he only responds with a grin and a sly look in his eye- completely unmoving, cigarette still held in his teeth.
"You thought about tying the knot yet? I'm telling ya, if you managed to keep him around for a year, that means you gotta have something special going on."
"I doubt any shrine would be willing to do the ceremony for two guys." Aoba rolls his eyes. He's mostly trying to convince himself; Both he and Koujaku are respected in their local community, so he has no doubt that their potential union would be honored. He thinks that this whole "being in a relationship with a man" had sunken into his mind by now, but in moments like these, he really worries that he will never internalize it fully.
"Since when do you need a shrine?" The Benishigure snorts dismissively and waves his hand around with no grace at all; His eyes have a spark in them that already tells Aoba that he came up with something only a drunk could make up. "You're already with your friends and family, right...? And everyone's wasted on sake...? All we need now is for the lovebirds to smooch." He grins. "I can even be your official, if you want"
He raises his mug, beer and froth sloshing with his uncoordinated movements and begins to chant "KISS! KISS! KISS!", his yell echoing through the bar. All the other members at the table quickly abandon whatever they were talking about and join in, not knowing what they're cheering for, but knowing that it's paramount to see their leader and his boyfriend make out at the table this instant.
This unrest finally rouses Koujaku. He knows that Aoba doesn't enjoy being the center of attention, and especially not when he's being goaded into doing something by a bunch of rowdy, drunk dudes. He usually trusts his men to know when to cool it when it comes to teasing Aoba, but it seems like alcohol might've clouded their judgement.
He grabs his cigarette between his slender fingers and opens his mouth to speak. Before he manages to make a single sound, Aoba is pressing his lips against his, tasting the smoky flavor of the kiss. The room erupts in cheers, and the clinking of glasses and mugs raised in toast adds to his overwhelmed state.
In a way though, Koujaku is oddly gleeful about it all; He never expected to get married, or at least not like that- when he was younger, he'd probably imagine a serious, grim ceremony where he's forced to marry a girl he never saw before, one that was chosen by his father in order to strenghten their family's position in the criminal underword. Nowdays he has no family he could invite to such a ceremony, but the Benishigure are the closest thing he has, and he loves them like he would his own blood, so getting married while listening to their howls and cheers is probably how he'd like it to go anyway. As for Aoba... Being able to be around him in any capacity was a dream come true; Koujaku knew that he himself is never going anywhere anyway. But thinking about Aoba pledging his loyalty to him with such fervor, and in front of so many other people... He's just happy he's not a crying kind of drunk. Instead, he chooses to cup Aoba's head with his free hand, gently rustling the short, stiff hair right at his hairline.
On the next day, Aoba doesn't talk about the kiss, but when Koujaku tries to talk to him about it, he can see that Aoba remembers it all happening by the way he stammers, badly puts on a facade and downplays the whole event. Koujaku just laughs; He knows that Aoba needs to process it- he knows him well enough to know how he behaves after events like this, and Koujaku is, if nothing, a patient man. Besides, Aoba was always adorable when he was in that part of processing something, so he really doesn't mind.
Benishigure who are "in the know" sometimes call Aoba "bride" to mess with him, or ask Koujaku to say hi to his "wifey" from them. Mizuki finds out from them through rumors that the Black Needle hosted their very first wedding/reception when he happened to have a night off and he can't live that down. As for Aoba and Koujaku, they don't really consider themselves an officially married couple, but the bit is nicer to carry out than they thought- jokingly talking to eachother like an old married couple comes to them more naturally and is more fun than either has expected.
#dmmd#dramatical murder#kouao#aoba seragaki#koujaku#hatter blathers#ahhhhhh im kinda nervous to post it 😖 i fought with myself for two days about this#but you know what? it is the site to get sillay about your fictional favs. devils sacrament and all that#so i apologize if this is cringy or terribly written lol i just had a need to do it#i took a break from writing due to burnout and this is a nice way to exercise that muscle you know?#short and sweet#anyway i saw that a lot of people liked my last aoba and benishigure post#so i figured i can explore it a bit more#idk why everyone in benishigure is a fujo for their leader. just that kind of universe i guess lmao#i think theyd call aoba bride or wifey bc i feel like it just suits them more than groom and hubby#like idk. they see koujaku as the epitome of masculinity and the way gender roles and sexuality is constructed in this universe#feels a bit vague. which is good for headcanons but it can be a bit tricky to construct#they just mean it as a joke. theyre not doing this maliciously.#i like aoba becoming more ingraied into the benishigure structures once he starts dating koujaku#he never becomes a member but hes kind of an honorary second in command and hes liked and respected despite the teasing#IM SORRY IF MY WRITING IS ASS i was trying to be concise and add some flourish without going overboard#my non-dmmd mutuals: you didnt see anything 😶 im sorry if my perception of me has forever shifted#or something. im baring my soul to everyone#the sake thing is a part of japanese wedding tradition where the married couple sips sake from eachothers cups#it has more meaning and is more complex ofc but. you know. nothing in this scene is traditional lol
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Sorry for being negative, I’m just a bit disappointed that after looking through the Earthspark Optimus tags on and off on different occasions weeks apart, it seems like the only thing the fandom has to say about ES Optimus is finger snaps and dad jokes. :/ (And also a handful of people already trying to frame him as a bad person lmao)
Watch for it, when more episodes of Earthspark come out and a conflict with GHOST inevitably arises, people are going to be raging at Optimus for being “stupid” or “self-righteous” or “blind” for working with GHOST and start calling Megatron and/or the Decepticons right about everything because they spent so long focusing on “haha funny dad Optimus” that they forgot about the other parts of Optimus’ character like... idk, not wanting to colonize planets? Not wanting to start wars with entire species that didn’t want to be involved in the war in the first place? Being willing to make compromises even at risk to himself and his own because he wants to treat everyone fairly?
Idk I guess I’m just a bit salty because it genuinely seems like all this fandom wants is “funny dad Optimus” and nothing else. Like you will give them funny dad Optimus who’s ALSO complex and morally gray but people will only ever talk about the former part. And then when Optimus inevitably makes a mistake and bad things happen, people are probably going to treat him as if he’s stupid or an asshole when he ends up not being the Perfect Unproblematic Fave that people seemingly want him to be.
#negativity#the tf fandom has protagonist centered morality really badly#like yes we all joke/think that humans are the most boring part of transformers#but there's a difference between that as like a narrative preference in a story#versus literally acting like humans don't matter#and a lot of takes i see in earthspark and other continuities#seem to completely ignore the fact that cybertronians securing their future on earth and eliminating the people who want to do them wrong#would literally mean stealing resources from humans and killing them aka COLONIZING THEM#so i see people calling OP a bad leader or stupid or overly trusting for working with GHOST when he's literally no such thing#he explicitly says 'we are guests on this planet' and acknowledges that he sees GHOST merely as his best option and doesn't fully trust them#but ppl in this fandom have a really infantile perspective of optimus#where they want him to be Good All The Time or they just see him as an idiot for some reason#so they see OP making compromises to not hurt humans (people who didn't even want to get involved with cybertron's war)#and theyre like durr hurr he's stupid! he's ignorant! he's an asshole to the decepticons!#no he's not he's literally just trying to not hurt innocent people? and he has to balance both human lives and cybertronian lives#and that's fucking hard and there are no perfect options and there are no outcomes where no one will get hurt#and the existence of those bad choices doesn't make optimus stupid or malicious#it makes him a FUCKING PERSON#trying to navigate a HARD SITUATION and do the right thing#but we can't have optimus being an actual character who behaves like a human being#he has to be perfect daddy prime that does nothing wrong ever and if he does he's a STUPID ASSHOLE ugh
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do you mind sharing a bit more about your analysis of heart,,,
i'd love to!! (i assume this is about the heart critique piece i did a few months ago, but please correct me if im wrong!)
in terms of the "a critique on the treatment of hearts characterization" piece, i wanted to visually explore some frustrations i have had with how the fanbase seems to fall into some unfortunate patterns when it comes to hearts character.
frequently, i see heart infantilized - this either comes across as him being a kicked dog unable to help himself because he is too weak, a baby angel who did nothing wrong, or a feral gremlin child. i think flattening his character down to any/all of these is, for lack of a better word, a bit problematic?
; one reason being it just defeats the idea of emotions being a visceral, intense thing. heart is meant to represent emotion in its purest form; i feel woobifying him takes away from that concept because it shows having emotions as being inherently weaker or less mature. i think a lot of people kinda forget HMS aren't just tv show characters. they represent greater concepts that near everyone feels and feels uniquely - theyre more sensitive than your typical character. thats not saying treating them as characters is bad! everyone relates to them differently because they are so personal, they make them their own and i think thats really awesome!! ; but boiling them down to these really generic tropes and making heart a baby kinda defeats the idea that emotions are a real, visceral, multifaceted concept. ; another reason i think it can be problematic is that it sometimes unintentionally comes across really ableist? a lot of these 'fandom-y' tropes are already rooted in ableism in some way, which is bad on its own, but theres also the important addition that heart is frequently portrayed as blind.
ive seen people time and time again fall into stereotypes with heart that his blindness makes him weak/helpless/childish. truthfully I dont think people do this intentionally, but its still internalized ableism showing up. i recognize that a lot of the people who woobify heart tend to be on the younger side, so they dont really recognize that theyre flattening him down like that- not out of malicious ignorance, but because theyre kids who havent really had the life experience yet to grasp the full concepts of the album or realize they might be implying harmful stereotypes; that doesn't necessarily mean its okay, but i think its just them being uneducated cause theyre kids and they have yet to learn that stuff. ; all that being said, im not trying to police people on how they portray characters. im not any authority on this fandom/album by any means imaginable - im just a fan like everyone else here! like i said before, characterizing HMS is not inherently a bad thing at all ! its fun, and its what this fanbase is built on in the first place! its so great that everyone can interpret and relate to HMS so personally, i think chonny really hit it off with the concept for the album and the execution is stellar! seeing all the fanart and different interpretations of it and the characters is such a beautiful thing, no matter if its joking, lighthearted, or deep! ; at the end of the day, theres no wrong way to interpret this album, and theres no wrong way to characterize heart. more than anything that critique piece was built up frustration turned to a call to action for people to stop and think deeply for a moment about how they portray heart - to open eyes if someone might be unknowingly flattening or adding problematic ideas to their characterizations. and to just be mindful of that going forward! 💜
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GENERAL JAX HCS
mix of a bunch of stuff, probably going to be writing random stuff while waiting for requests to come in so i have something to do side note i never actually felt a knot in my neck form, only wake up with them after getting them in my sleep... until today, felt one form right in the back of my neck while i was just. standing and oh my god it sucks so much i hate knots but actually feeling it. develop. right there. sucks more i think anyways this is a mixed bag of just basic jax hcs + stuff that can tie in with other characters or the reader, we'll see since i write these notes before doing anything else
would this really be a jax hc post by the silly corner if i didnt mention the fidget headcannon? literally the hc that i bring up the most in my posts when theres readers who have accessories or tails or what have you?
i think hes going to mess with anything he can get his hands on; usually passing them between his hands or perhaps tossing them around in the air and catching them.. if its something bouncy hes going to be bouncing it along the ground while he's walking.. i think sometimes with other characters, he does try to mess with them out of habit (plus given how he snatches zoobles arm it kind of. shows hes comfortable doing that sort of thing, you know?)
sometimes messes with ragathas bow, or zoobles antennae (though with zooble its more on purpose and to annoy them).. i think you get the idea
speaking of ragatha i think they would be good friends, i mean i personally think if ragatha didnt like jax she would keep her distance from him (though to be fair we still only have the pilot so far + i think ragatha would still be polite if she didnt like him)
as for his dynamic with zooble i think they kind of egg each other on, but on the rare occasion they do agree on something they do so begrudgingly
i think his ears twitch when hes thinking or when hes irritated, not huge movements... mostly little... twiks, you know?
i dont think he really has fur personally, and if he does its really short and smooth... in my opinion he looks like he would be made of the same material as those small squishy animal toys
these ones, i got a handful of them and theyre genuinely so soft and squishy, me thinks jax would feel like these things
on the off chance he needs to cook for whatever reason, hes a terrible cook. like i think he can make one meal but outside of that hes a disaster in the kitchen... also doesnt make a good kitchen partner because hes going to think its funny to hand you the wrong thing when you ask him to pass something
malicious incompetence but hes doing it to annoy you and will probably give you the right thing after a few rounds of messing with you
no one is safe from his antics, assuming he and ragatha are good friends, shes still subject to his jokes at the bare minimum
so.... if youre friends with him youre at least going to go through the same thing
i dont think he would be a good secret keeper most of the time. like yeah sure if its something serious and important i think he would put aside his douchbagie-ness for once and keep it
but if its something outside of that? yeah no you're have more luck confiding in caine, who imo would pounce on the opportunity to gossip
probably shouts random stuff, like "hey caine, (reader) thinks youre (insert outrageous lie)!" just to mess with you. does this to other people, usually ragatha or gangle... sometimes does it to kinger, i think... only reason he doesnt do it to zooble is because they will get his ass, and hes giving pomni a 'grace period' before he decides to drag her into his shit
hes an ass but i dont think he would just jump on someone/j
speaking of, while he can be mean to some people i do think he has his limits, like hes not going to kick you while youre already down or make fun of you for something you cant really control or manipulate you by hanging something over your head (see the secret keeping thing, while he will tease you about more basic stuff if its something serious hes not going to do it imo)
you know?
though i do think hes the type to steal something from someone in order to make them talk to him; especially if he has a crush on someone... hes just a little shit like that
has this LOOK on his face when the person comes to retrieve their thing, and tbh... i can also see him waving it around over their head (hes tall, and if they can still reach it he probably jumps.. gets on his toes.. stumbles away and holds them back ect) just to keep them around for just a little longer
whether this is actually successful in getting with the person romantically depends... personally it wouldnt work for me but hey, some people find that behavior endearing and/or will be able to eventually pick up on what hes doing
does not like being vulnerable, this goes for really anything regarding feelings as he thinks it ties in with weakness (spoiler, it doesnt)... probably has a "eeeewww feelings..." mindset (though might still let you vent to him... will act uninterested but if he really didnt care hed just walk away.. more actions than words, this one is)
rarely talks about how he actually feels about things if the feeling in question is anything less than indifference or amusement... though hes not opposed to expressing anger or annoyance... will let you do what you will with that information...
naturally because of him being weird about his feelings, romantic feelings fall into the "eeeeeewww feelings..." category so hes not going to be blunt, again, actions over words here... and even then the actions here are mostly him messing with the person and trying to get them to spend time with him as a result (even if its not... hanging out..)
#tadc x reader#the amazing digital circus x reader#digital circus x reader#jax x reader#jax x you#jax imagine
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lily orchard is now at the point in the video of trying to "debunk" her sister's abuse claims and its. not great. ill tell you that
"children dont act sexually between the ages of 7 and 11. that just doesn't happen. its impossible for that to happen." it is not impossible for it to happen.
"other people heard i was acting sexually at those ages and asked if i was sexually abused at those ages or younger and yes. i was. i was being sexually abused" okay so you're admitting. kids can act out their abuse on another child in cocsa. if they have been sexually abused by an adult beforehand. which you were.
like would it have been her fault necessarily? i dont think so many kids who reenact their abuse with another child arent doing it maliciously or for some self gratification, they just think its normal and their brains are also trying to process the abuse. it doesnt mean they were born evil and corrupt and like abusing people (which lily orchard says must be the claim. for some reason) but it also doesn't mean real harm wasn't done to the other child during the reenactment of abuse.
but then lily also turns around to say, actually, there was inappropriate behavior going on in their relationship, but actually her sister courtney was the one who instigated all of it and blackmailed her into it and she's the evil one for doing it and blah blah what the fuck is even the point of you going on a tirade that it is impossible for a young child of these ages to instigate sexual behaviors to absolve yourself of guilt by making it seem like its impossible for that to have ever happened in any world only to say two things that debunk it by saying children who have been sexually abused by adults (you) might reenact the abuse and also that your sister at those ages did it to you.
she also goes on to say "im not weird about incest. all of these examples of me shipping incest and being weird about sibling characters is actually just me enjoying extremely high intimacy relationships where everyone else around these two characters THINKS they have to be fucking or in love with each other and constantly making jokes that everyone thinks theyre together and they are two characters who are close to one another more than they are literally anyone else in their lives. but its NOT incest and you're the weird one if you think it might be"
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Undertale did exactly that - I'm pretty sure theyre made by the same creator, Toby Fox.
Undertale, among many, many other things, is specifically designed to challenge modern AAA game structure and break away from the norm of video games. Its not just that you can befriend your enemies and you get punished for fighting; each different monster has unique, endearing possibilities for friendship. You jiggle and dance with slimes, there a frost-bird that tells terrible jokes, one monster desperately wants compliments on their hat. Each one is utterly unique.
There are three unique paths. Pacifist means you dont kill anyone. Neutral is the standard "kill when you have to/im used to video games where you kill every monster you encounter". Then there's Genocide.
There is a unique route where players methodically and maliciously clear every region of every living soul.
All this to say - in an age where most games allow you to murder monsters, enemies, or people for rewards, Undertale (and assumedly Deltarune) treats such behavior with humanity and empathy and the correct amount of abject horror that such actions should warrant.
okok yeah that definitely aligns with what i know/remember of undertale, and i do know toby fox made both games
the weird thing for me is that i’m not really familiar with the norms undertale was subverting
all the characters being unique and possible to either fight OR befriend resulting in different consequences seems completely reasonable from my perspective, i never had a reason to expect anything else
#splashasks#itsthenars#i will say the punchy eloquence of the way you phrased all this does kind of make me nervous#that i’ve stumbled into an argument that’s gone places i was not accounting for and don’t have the context to engage with properly#not to discount the possibility that you’re just a good writer ofc#but if people start having arguments with each other in my inbox i’m not answering any more asks everyone got that
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sanrio?? hello??
violin* and obsessed with money???? since when??? i mean. alright. i can give the violin to him AND cherry but its like, very barely there violin??
me to the sanrio ceo: "berry is violin" shut up if youve seen the stuff kuromi circa 2006 used to do youd hurl
also i dont think wallet status has ever been mentioned about these guys... in any media/franchise. they live in an abandoned looking mansion for the halloween aesthetic, not because of money. i can believe 'obsessed with money' but not 'poor'
hoping its either just google mistranslations or some recent developments ive been blissfully unaware of
>cinnamon
>her
its mistranslations. also this is personal headcanoning time based on how often the confusion happens but man you cant do this to cinnamon notorious trans man icon cinnamon. if he doesnt mind it then ill mind it for him djkhfdksj 'cherry is competitive and selfish' is correct btw this has always been her description. well maybe not competitive but definitely selfish. iirc it was always around "berry is stubborn cherry is selfish and theyre both tsundere" genuinely dont know where violin came from its gotta be a mistranslation on the nuisanse/stubborn aspect. i also dunno where 'weakness is strong-willed girls' came from, it might be talking about his friendship with cherry and how he might given in easier to what she tells him (at least i choose to think so) so i got no comment on it
all the pronouns being mismatched is so funny man come on shjfhdgfdsjvfdsjv is this profile using some sort of neutral language that left google confused as hell?
i. uh? should i be worried about espresso?
this ones... correct? espresso is more of a culture savant than a celebrity.... anyway berry if you kick him out there will be no one there to make you the food you love
nope! its magic and mirror manipulation. pranking is their hobby and favorite pass time but their magic is not limited to just the -its joke- context (sorry to once again quote the worst season ever of OMM, but they both tried to help out bakus family by making a photo of food they had emit scent, so the family would have an easier time eating plain rice. no jokering no jestering no clowning no malicious behavior whatsoever).
i remember being mentioned in older descriptions that berry had some potion making proficiency but they havent focused in that in years so who cares now amirite. i dont remember if cherry had any sort of distinction like this, theyve always overfocused on her crush on espresso :pensive:
"what about cherry"
"who? oh idk write smth about espresso again"
(hobbies include PRANKS, attempting to make friends (a general trait) making music (2018 rankings), having ballroom parties (cinnamon trip!! by oster project) and watching sentai/magical girl anime (onegai my melody). berrys particular hobby is to mess with cinnamon, cherrys particular hobby is to go after espresso. i guess.) (but again most of these are old one offs, and currently unfocused aspects of theirs so. whatever)
also i really would like to know the plans about the alt designs for them that are technically their true form and always show in their shadows and (sometimes?) in mirror reflections. it hasnt been completely dropped but, its never been hard defined either so idk. i guess i feel a bit bummed that its also been attempted to be forgotten to time because (to me feel at least) it feels very obviously based on the episode kuromi turned herself into a human and it could be something they were trying to establish to devil inspired characters back then.
thanks for coming to the lloromannic autism hour its nice to think about something else other than current personal events sometimes
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since i dont want an entire "zim age debate" on your blog im keeping this off anon so you can answer this privately if you want
im ALSO not trying to "convince you" to change your interpretation of zim because thats stupid and completely defeats my entire point that its up in the air. thatd also be pretty mean of me!
but my main point is that i think different writers on the show have different ideas for how they see him, considering jhonen is not the sole opinion-haver there and his favorite thing to do is make shit up. like richard and andy((zim and dibs voice actors, respectively)) im pretty sure dont think hes an old man otherwise the puppet kiss incident or the "i love you zim" wouldnt have happened. ((not that i want this to be About shipping but thats a big example)) and then theres advertisements calling zim an "alien kid" or jhonen himself calling zim a child in the old pilot bible
i understand what you mean with tak the hideous new girl however thats also the episode where he tries to Date tak under the impression that shes a human child and id rather not see my funny greenboy as a predator. i just always thought that the 60 years joke was "haha isnt it funny that were using ridiculously long periods of time and theyre still children"
not to mention mopiness of doom where it shows that zim and dib are grossly codependent enemies and i just dont really want to imagine a 60+ year old man and a child depending on eachother like that,,,,,
theres more "evidence" but i think this ask has gone on long enough
ALL OF THAT BEING SAID!!!!! theres no definitive proof either way and i find that unless youre shipping or really want to dig into the child soldier angle((which i personally find interesting)) it doesnt really matter. again this isnt supposed to be a persuasive essay just like,, idek. i like discussing this show and the characters in it! theres story benefits to either interpretation of zim and i like your art either way
uhh,, cheers and also sorry i think!!
eh. I had to write so much to respond to all this, it seems wasteful not to post.
TL; DR
There is no way for me to 100% guarantee that zadr will be read the same way by everyone, because it won't be, as is the nature of all media. That is exactly why I don't think that everyone who interprets Zim as a child necessarily has ill or manipulative intentions.
But I can provide arguments like the following for why I think zadr and kids who ship it would be a likely target for groomers, and therefore why I feel it is a good idea to discourage this ship.
As I mentioned in the previous ask, I think that said discouragement should be approached with the mindset that not everyone involved is malicious or arguing in bad faith. It is necessary to determine how best to act depending on the situation.
Personally, I'm going to continue pointing out the problems I see with the ship as much as I can in hopes of changing peoples' minds, whenever I have the time and energy to do so.
re: the VAs: This does not refute my point about Zim being easily read as an adult bc of the 50 years comment/ many other contextual implications made by the show. If anything the vagueness about Zim's age because of his alien society could make this a more useful grooming tool. I feel the same way about Bill Cipher x Dipper. Bill has just as much childish adult coding and just as little certainty about his age within the context of his alien species.
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re: the pilot bible: the show changes lots of things from the pilot bible so this is no more reliable than any other "word of god" (input from creators of the show rather than material within the show) from Jhonen.
That said, I think the VAs were joking around and did not put much thought into it. Joking around by making characters act the opposite of normal (hating each other -> liking each other) is common.
That said, I think the unprovable nature of the intentions behind the VAs comments is a good argument for excluding word of god from the Zim age conversation entirely. I think that zadr is still Not Good and should be Discouraged even if you only look at the show with no additional outside input, for all the reasons I explained in the first ask and have added here.
re: advertisements calling Zim an alien kid: a bunch of characters in the show call him a kid because they are genuinely convinced he is one, so it doesnt surprise me that advertisement/bumper writers who arent really paying attention would call him that.
re: trying to date Tak: in that episode it is made VERY clear that Zim does not understand romance at all, and does not care to beyond what's necessary to blend in. He clearly does not genuinely want to date her and only wants to use it to seem more socially normal. The Keef episode established a precedent for how Zim treats human relationships he's unfamiliar with, and it's by doing the bare minimum and then ditching them immediately. It's not GOOD behavior by any stretch, but he isn't acting with genuine predatory intentions.
re: 60 years joke: yeah sure that is a joke the show might make. But the additional cultural context we have for Zim's life (that he has been a soldier for a long time + that he trained to become a soldier for a long time, as we see in The Trial) gives Tak being a janitor for 50 years more potential to be taken literally.
re: mopiness of doom: yeah honestly I just personally don't like that episode script. But also, as codependant as they are and as weird as that is, nothing about it is inherently romantic. My frenemies argument from the end of the original post still stands, as do all of my arguments about the ship being potentially useful for grooming because of the lack of clarity.
re: your conclusion: The fact that Irkens HAVE child soldiers IS interesting, yes, and we see in The Trial that Zim has been trained to be a soldier basically since birth, which is also interesting to consider for Zim's character.
However, I explained in the previous ask how I think reading Zim as a child during the current events of the show weakens some of the show's core themes about incompetent, unquestioning adults. I think the whole show just makes more sense if it is centered around a socially shunned child and socially shunned adult fighting against each other. The fact that Zim is old and still a loser further highlights how futile both his and Dib's aspirations to greatness are within their respective societies-- and they are CLEARLY meant to be seen as futile.
I cannot think of a theme or character arc that would be served by Zim's age being unclear, so I do not think it comes across as intentional, even if you rule out word of god. But still, even if nothing I've read into here was intentional, what matters is that it is lends itself to being interpreted as an adult/child ship, or being interpreted as an age gap that "doesnt count" for superficial reasons. And NO I am not claiming that there is any way to conclusively determine that a ship with an unclear age gap has crossed the line into potentially harmful territory. It HAS to be considered on a case-by-case basis. And you've made it clear that there are muddling factors to sift through for this one in particular!
But I feel very strongly that these muddling factors are more circumstantial than, less intuitive than, and ultimately outweighed by, the parts of the text which contextually place Zim as an adult, and will continue providing examples supporting this conclusionc whenever I am able to.
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putting all my hateration under the cut 😌❤️
I love that ethan is just a Normal Guy but dear God would it have killed them to give him some semblance of a personality other than wanting to save his wife and daughter like yeah okay he loves his family and that's something but when you're spending two games with him it's actually a whole lot of nothing! The game overall was beautiful of course but my God it just felt like a dark fantasy game and that's great but I want to play resident evil and this was not a resident evil game and I don't care how hard 8 fans campaign for it to be seen as one, it will never fit into the franchise unless the next few games make a hard left turn into fantasy. And yeah you could say 4,5, and 6 aren't exactly horror games and you know what I would agree with you kind of, but they still are resident evil games. I just think everything they did in this game was so... it was such a wild departure from anything we had ever seen before and not in a good way. The only things connecting this game to the rest of the franchise were chris (who is only in 10% of the game and that's pushing it) and ethan and mia, and those 2 are brand spanking new to the franchise. It honestly feels like they wanted a testing ground for 4remake so they just worked backwards from that and then worked on the story and that's how we got this junk and boy do I mean fucking junk. There is no way you can look me in my eye and tell me vampire woman and metal powers man seriously feel like they belong in the franchise. I can work with moreau because he leans into horrific mutations and donna... is kind of a joke to me lol. The doll thing is creepy but again it feels like a fantasy thing and not Sci fi or horror (though there are some horrific aspects to the game.) AND ALSO DO THEY EVER EXPLAIN WHY EVERYONE HAS AMERICAN ACCENTS EVEN THOUGH THEYRE IN ROMANIA DID I MISS SOMETHING?!?!? anyways the whole retroactively putting miranda in the ozwell Spencer story is such a fucking joke to me. Why would they fuck around with an already fine story beat? Why? Just to justify miranda and it doesn't even work because she, like everything else, feels so out of place in the franchise. And the game itself? Like the gameplay? Was nothing special! I didn't care for it! The most interesting thing that happened was the bsaa using bioweapons and that came at the VERY END OF THE GAME!!!!!!! like... THAT is the story beat we will be following up on (I assume. I mean. Unless capcom wants to go batshit like they clearly did here) and we don't even know about it until the fucking end!!! And my God. Shadows of rose. Completely boring don't care don't care don't care they literally just did all that work just to tell us ethan is always with rose. That's it. It's not for us to understand rose. It's for ethan. And again I must ask, why on God's green earth is mia seemingly absent from her daughters life. Why. THAT is an interesting story beat I would have liked to see in SoR not this other half cocked bullshit. Also eveline so did not need to be here. It's not like rose ever actually gets to learn about her. She's just there to be a malicious force and it's only for like... 20 minutes at best. Anyways this was the dumbest re game I've played and I suspect it will be the dumbest out of the franchise. I literally could go my whole life ignoring this game and be happier for it. Also it should have been mias game that way we can see mias relationship with rose but fuck her I guess.
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i almost never see art w the pigtails and its like damn. i feel like kind of look.. bald without them lol?? but maube thats just because im so used to seeing myself with them that anything else feels kind of weird. im used to it now since i almost never see anything else (opposite problems fr..) but i still cant help but feel i look TOO similar to my brother without them..! which.. i actually dont mind too much, i guess. i talk a lot about him negatively but in all honesty im actually very attached to him (as a character, rather than the guy who fucked up my life.)
i like reminding myself that everyone is their own person and will never be exactly like me because i tend to forget about it, especially with .. some stalking issues ive been facing lately where my ex has been stealing vital parts of my identity just to be petty and fuck with me. but when its not malicious, i find shared attributes quite interesting.. i still think the differences are more interesting though, because everyone is so different in even the slightest things.. like even if there are shared experiences, it affects the people differently, and i think tjats cool..
i lean very heavily into .. a lot of different things, itd take forevr to list everything too since i consider all of my traits to be significant and major aspects of me so i wouldnt want to leave anything out, but i guess to oversimplify, i really like being 'cute' and silly and shit like that. i do like more "serious" and dark aesthetics too, i think its kind of a given with me considering the majority of my sources are focused around those, but i focus much more on the lighter ones most of the time. ive made a lot of jokes about my sources vs the music i listen to because theyre a good representation of the interesting part of what im trying to get at and i find them funny. eh.. i couod put a lot of words into this but i feel like i wont be able to properly .. say the thing im trying to say, so i guess im done with this specifically for now .
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Ithaqua isn't at the front at the moment but I didn't want to leave you waiting. He's fronted less and less after the drama we mentioned before but I did ask and he gave me the go ahead to reply. (Though these asks have intrigued him and he'd love to attempt fronting a little more)
I explained the contents of this ask and he trusts me understanding him well enough to know how he is.
One thing a vast majority of our system finds fascinating is exactly that. The idea of how everyone is their own person living their own lives doing the best they can to thrive and survive and even if it means that they are raised to be hostile or gentle. That everyone has experiences that shape them.
It's always been such a fascinating concept. He'd understand you wanting to separate from your brother so much, for very obvious reasons
One of the things we enjoy talking about is realism. The very reality of life even the dark topics most people find themselves uncomfortable talking about. It's amazing to us that they are even so uncomfortable with the dark truths of life. But we can't judge, there are still some topics that genuinely disturb us but they are far and few between.
- ☁️ (apologies if you'd have preferred his direct response. He needed time with Alva but he too didn't wish to leave you hanging)
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I like the idea of aphmau and sylvanna having a strained relationship but I also yearn for a mystreet character who’s family isn’t fucked six ways to sunday. In the two main groups in myst no one has an onscreen normal relationship with both their parents.
Aphmau: sylvanna’s sylvanna and zach is a: not present and b: a horrible person.
Katelyn: Elizabeth was a bad mother and presumably abandoned her family at some point prior to Katelyn’s teenage years.
Garroth: garte. Also Zianna to a point, but none of her actions seem as malicious as his normal ones.
Travis: his mother died at some point in his childhood, and terry is. terry.
Dante: deadbeat father who left when Gene was very young and Dante was presumably not much older than a toddler.
Nana: we never see her parents, but considering the joke of her name is that it means 7 and she decided to become a racist caricature for attention because of how many siblings she has, I’m inclined to assume it’s not good.
Laurence: he is an orphan, we do not know anything about his bio parents, when he entered the system, or what age he was adopted by the zvahls at. We never actually see his adoptive parents, so they don’t count.
I could go on about other characters too. 90% of mystreet has either a deadbeat parent or a parent they have a bad relationship with. Which is not unrealistic, but it’s kind of irritating that all the good parents are, at best, mediocre or simply aren’t shown enough to be able to tell. Not to mention most of the bad parents are not just bad, they are comically evil. The only provably, intentionally shitty parent of the main cast NOT involved with the forever potions plot is Dante’s dad! This isn’t a friend group with shitty families, this is a friend group most of which have extremely mid civilians and dollar store supervillains for parents!
if some of them were toned down a bit or they had only one bad parent, it would be way more realistic (speaking from personally experience because 99% of my friends also have shitty parents. this is mostly likely a product of 99% of my friends being queer, neurodivergent, and/or disabled with unsupportive parents)
im planning on making a lot of their families at least a bit better because like. it is unrealistic for every single parent ever to be shitty. especially to the point where theyre comic book supervillain esque like you said
there is so much about mystreet that needs to be fixed 💔 i already have ideas for most of it (my rewrite is uh. well. its gonna throw a lot of canon out the window) and the characters' families is something i tackled first because it feels like jess forgot to give them actual families and then tried to patch up the plot holes with "their families are all shitty"
#ask box#❄.txt#i feel like jess really shouldve planned out nana's family in the beginning#because if she has a really big family why does she never bring them up to anyone??#even just as a passing comment of 'my sibling does that too' or something#everyone i know with siblings brings them up at least every now and then. even if its just to go 'yeah my sibling tried to kill me once'#also why do so many of them only have one parent. and just never remarried. i literally know only one person who only has one parent#also off topic but i feel like in media theres an obsession with the trope of 'adopted kid looking for their ~real~ parents'#as someone whos adopted its so fucking stupid literally no one is like that#am i curious? sure. who wouldnt be#do i outright disown my adoptive parents and act like they arent my ~real~ parents? fuck no thats stupid these people raised me#the only media that does that trope that i will still absolutely love forever is a series of unfortunate events#although that was a way more unique approach than what people usually take
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prev i hope you dont mind if i highlight your tags bc genuinely i know you say it in a joking way but like you understand. im sure that post going around is fun and lighthearted and thats fine im not saying its some malicious dig at other people but as someone who has genuinely been made fun of for their attraction to non conventionally attractive men as a gay/trans person this is something that seriously bothers me. even if people are saying stuff like this as a joke its still a backhanded comment and like, yeah it does get to people.
im sure a lot of us struggle to express our feelings and attraction (i know i do) as it is and when all i can manage is enthusiastically showing pictures out of fear of saying the wrong thing and being judged and still getting some kind of condescending comment, joke or not, like. that shit hurts. a lot. and it may be funny to the person that said it because haha they would joke about themselves like that and they dont mean it! for but for someone who already feels uncomfortable in the same space for not liking whatever flavor of the month sexyman (which inherently there is nothing wrong with just btw) it seriously discourages that person from ever wanting to gush or share about their f/os or participate in conversations at all really. out of a fear of being judged or laughed at like we've already established is gonna happen anyways bc we have normalized self deprecation to the point where we take it upon ourselves to extend those sentiments onto people that we dont know which is so so not fucking cool, especially when a lot of people use selfship as a way to cope and heal from shit like that. idk.
my point isnt to be mean to that one post even if it is what made me upset, the point i am trying to make basically is stop putting yourself down to try and make other people more comfortable just bc you dont share the same perception of beauty or attraction. if that person cant choose to at the least be decent then theyre not worth the time
just a thought maybe we don't put down our mutuals for the way in which they express their love for their f/os and especially if they're not a conventionally attractive white boy twink maybe which seems to be the bar of acceptable to be attracted to. idk. just a thought
#i call myself like haha ugly old man liker and i literally do it bc i used to use it as a way to make fun of myself.#i figured it would make ppl more comfortable around me if i treated it like a joke. and then when everyone started agreeing#why bother pushing back. sure. whatever. i like ugly men. ok#it doesnt bother me like it used to but i get so fucking scared for having crushes sometimes#just bc i KNOW people are gonna judge and make fun of me. even if theyre not saying it.#and posts like that are what perpetuate those feelings.#literally STILL embarrassed to post abt certain fos bc i know people will think im weird for it.#but yeah.
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i love that the rise of the internet is contributing to theatre culture on a whole, especially with bringing eyes to certain off-broadway or underground productions (speaking more directly about ride the cyclone). but i am very annoyed by the internetification of theatre in the way of like. fandom culture and forcing these poor actors to be permanently related to certain roles and having to pull back the curtain on certain things that should just always remain a mystery, bc theatre is all about that mystery and of letting the audience sit down unaware and be immersed in something completely new
#ignorance cloud on#im thinking abt how the actor for noel was like. answering questions people had abt his time on ride the cyclone#and like q&as are fine. theyre often nice bc it humanizes the actor rather than the character#but then at the end he teased answering like a very Fandom Specific Question and it bothered me#bc its like. peeling back the curtain of the show#some things are left unsaid bc thats how stories work. u dont need the actor spelling it out for u#also bc it was related to the dumbass 'noel is talia theory' which like. is so fandom-brained its insane#and it completely destroys the concept of noel and mischa as characters bc it implies an inherent maliciousness in noel w his relation to#mischa. in the way that its predatory to fake being someone and then like. string out this relationship#and it also reduces mischa down to an over-extended gay joke????? which is sad#like his song is full of so much longing and passion#i wish people just left it as is#but the fact that like. even the actor for noel is being bothered abt this is just -__-#i kno fandom culture has been harassing actors abt fan bullshit for decades#but its sad to see it in theatre bc theatre is my home and where i derive the most significant meaning#and i want more people to derive their happiness from theatre bc theatre is so wonderful!!!!!!!!!#but i dont want it to be fandomized in the ways it becoming since the hamilton days#which ig could have something to do w guerilla broadway marketing#but for a smaller production like ride the cyclone its like! a double edged sword basically#bc this show is getting the attention it deserves but its also being dragged to the spotlight in a way that can attract fandom culture#and fandom culture itself is a double edged sword so. yeah#thats ur insane mich rant for the night i will now return to thinking about miku's weird gay kids
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like I know we here on tumblr love to play it fast and loose with this iconic preschool lesson but that last one is still absolutely vital no matter where you are
#i was gonna say im sorry but im not really!!#tumblr users clowning on some harmless post/blogger JUST as a funny joke for their group of mutual is a huge pet peeve for me#like you know theres a real human person who sees that right? and theyre probably gonna feel shitty for the rest of the day at least??#like if you actually take the time to consider that and you really believe they deserve to feel shitty bc theyve done something harmful#then fine go ahead!#but if you're just. treating them like joke fodder without considering the impact... youre just being a jerk!#maybe i shouldnt speak on this bc i might not know the full story#and by all means if they HAVE been doing/saying harmful shit then this post DOESNT apply and you can disregard it#but if its all just what i think it is. its literally just bullying??#whether u have malicious intent or not ur still feeding into it and making someone feel shitty over nothing#it just sucks whenever i see blogs ive LOVED pull shit like this#i know im like. really soft and kinda the opposite of a mean dyke but.#i just dont think its unreasonable or childish to want to give ppl the benefit of the doubt and show them empathy#maybe im going overboard on this but. nah im actually tired of trying to couch my posts! stop being a dick start thinking abt other ppl lol
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hmm not sure how to convey this right but if youre feeling any sort of sympathy or pity for trump or trump supporters unfollow me
#im gonna explain this more here but like#theres a post going around right now thats trying to rationalize??? ig ?? all the trump supporters voting for him again?#and its the dumbest shit. like i consider myself a pretty open minded person who usually is able to care abt ppl but like#i cant find the post again but its basically like 'oh trump supporters are only voting for him again bc they feel so HATED'#'theyre voting for him bc he tells them he loves them and they need that validation and theyre stuck in a CON and cant get out oh NO'#and 1. there is so much fucking wrong with that and like if op came out and said they either used to support trump or#are very close with someone who does support trump. i would not be surprised even a bit bc that is the most rancid take i have ever seen#2. they are saying that like. so many ppl havent been congratulated or celebrated on socmed for even just saying they switched. i have seen#that man who is obviously making a fatphobic joke abt how much he 'improved' bc he supports biden now and the main difference is that#hes fat in the first one but whatever. i have seen him at least 7 times on my dash this week. and its bc ppl LOVE to hear that#there are so many other examples of someone posting their sob story abt how they supported trump and now dont and getting praised im p sure#there is like a subreddit or like 5 straight threads dedicated to it at least. and its like. this is the bare minimum. is caring for ppl#trump and his supporters and family are not victims. they are not 'trapped' they are not 'lost' they know exactly what they are fucking doin#whether they know it on the most intense horribly malicious level or on the most well meaning one. they know what theyre doing#theyre being ignorant. theyre not caring about anyone but themselves. they see tragedy after tragedy. horror after horror and they#do. not. care.#they dont! bc at the end of the day when they see that. they dont believe it. they dont care bc its not Them.#yeah they feel hated. and u kno what? its bc they fucking are. and they can pretend they dont know why all they want. but its bc guess what!#they deserve it.#i feel no sympathy for these people. i feel no sadness for them. i feel no pity. i feel anger only. and you should too.#you want to feel sympathy? you want to feel sadness? you want to spread the love in your fucking heart thats part of all ppl?#care about the ppl they hurt. care about the ppl fighting for their fucking lives right now. i cannot imagine where your brain has to be#to see these ppl get repeatedly hurt and screwed and shot down by their govnt and fellow citizens and then think#'huh. man i feel bad for the ppl trying to keep them down'#i could explain this more but i have shit to do and also would probably hit the tag limit. so u get the point#if i see the above mentioned post on my dash i will block you myself i literally do not care at this point i have thought too much abt this#politics#v.txt#and before anyone even tries to @ me i will say i know abt the being nice to ppl looking to leave a cult thing and this is NOT THAT AT ALL
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i like critrole and i love these characters and i Do Not Trust critrole especially not the fandom that is my thought on the matter
#also only campaign 2 because i look at campaign 1 and i am already asleep not to be rude or anything#i like the cast and them being affectionate with each other and i simply do not trust them very much!#they are fine but in a thoughtless way where they just do not think about the things theyre doing or the tropes theyre falling into a lot#and i do not trust that to not break bad! i will have fun and continue to remember these people are not in fact my friends#idk ive been thinking a lot lately about how they created fjord and jester and how they both read#INCREDIBLY as gay without even being aware of it and in conjunction with the way they joke abt mlm specifically#its like hm okay i will take these beaujes crumbs and retreat thank you so much love u xoxo#like...i dont know how to word it. theyre cishet white liberals and selfproclaimed nerds mostly is the point lmao#i mean theyre not all Funnymen at least! its not like. ALL sam but its still. hm! thanks im glad yall are friends thats wonderful#i think that is very sweet and i do like watching them and again absolutely ADOREEEE these characters#and i do not trust them not to hurt me and other fans! thoughtlessly or maliciously. im fine out here thank you#thanks for the cast and thank you for accidentally making this many gays+transes in your fun fantasy game love and light xo#delete - probably i dont really wanna get into it more
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