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If i had a nickle every time a huntlow shipper started a friendly conversation with me but it quickly devolved into them aggressively sending me the same 3 screenshots or repeating the same 3 ooc headcanons to convince me that the huntlow ship is canon and therefore it must be good and therefore i have to like it, i would have at least 4 nickles.
Which isnt a lot, but the fact that its happened at least 4 times means i am never going to like this ship lmao
#the owl house#toh#shut up pandora#huntlow#two of them were a lot friendlier than the two others tho#so those are the two i havent blocked#one person i did block said if i liked the show then i wasnt allowed to dislike huntlow bc thats part of the show too#which isnt how anything works#the other one whos since deactivated said i shouldnt use so much critical thinking bc it spoils everyones fun and YES I AM QUOTING THEM#the friendlier ones kept saying its totally cool if i didnt ship it but it was clear tha they wouldnt leave me alone until i did ship it#despite the fact that i said repeatedly that ppl trying to push the ship too hard was part of my problem with it in the first place#other than that the reasoning behind huntlow shippers seem to be a mixture of reading WAY too much into the bit actually in the show#not remembering their characterization outside the ship unless it helps push the ship#and a general inability to understand why someone might not like the thing they like#they assume my reasons for disliking the ship is that i dont understand why THEY personally like it#so when i say i do understand but those are the reasons i dislike it#they cant accept that and must explain it to me again#this isnt a problem inherent to likers of the huntlow ship this is just annoying ppl on the internet#but this is the most recent thing where this has happened so im grumping about it#lowhunt
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syd+jeddie chnt
ok im assuming ur doing this for the ask game but tbh even if ur NOT i still win bc i got to talk about my favs forever despite being wrong
SYDNEY SARGENT
sexuality hc: dunno ...... itd really help if he had a canon sexuality (hes gay .)
gender hc: oh idk ..... its not like hes a canon trans guy or anything .... who knows
a ship i like: im a seddie girl til either i die or they do but i also quite like him w soren and juniper :3
a friendship i like: i think his friendship w marisol shouuld be explored more tbh its really interesting to me (:
a ship i dont like: i moderately dislike elijah x sydney <- holding back the burning rage of a thousand suns
a random hc: i think he has a bizarre talent for understanding lyrics first time in songs to the degree that people suspect the bonfire may be providing them to him . which is STRANGE because he has auditory processing disorder but somehow he can listen to one of those really edited drawly goth songs where the lyrics are intentionally incomprehensible and immediately hear all the lyrics right the first time around but will not understand simple sentences you say to him at times
general opinion: hes literally my best friend i love him so much hes so dear to me and so fascinating and i want to kiss him and i love him so much that it actually is killing me i adore his silly little self
JEDIDIAH MARTIN
sexuality hc: doesnt label it . if he thought abt it for long enough and really cared to label it theyd probably identify as bi gay but he isnt planning on ever doing that so
gender hc: cisgender man who has very normal emotions about gender and experienced very reasonable and rational amounts of jealousy from the moment sydney transitioned onwards (worlds most closested transfem nonbinary 2 exist bc they were so fucking christian all of their life and the second they left christianity they were dealing with fucking debilitating guilt for the sydney thing so not really thinking abt "hey am i a girl")
a ship i like: again i heart seddie but i also like jed w soren and marie ann :3
a friendship i like: i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about yvonne and jedidiah . i am NORMAL about y <- lying
a ship i dont like: i dont see a lot of jed ships that arent seddie and that i didnt like . make up lol
random hc: really really likes good smelling things . like VERY sensory seeking in that regard if they find a good smelling candle theyre keeping it w them forever . its why syd made their sheets peppermint scented thats a thing they do for them a lot to cheer him up
general opinion: my opinions on jedidiah martin are so complex and multifaceted and borderline deranged that if i attempted to synopsize them we would be here all week it would never end
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Any ideas how to heal from intense top/bottom discourses full of vitriol? Im *mostly* a fixed shipper and I was not ashamed to admit it thoigh I wouldnt have attacked someone for having a different preference (unless theyre being assholes first) and that have had people call me fetishizer, heteronormative, etc and it did affect me bc i dont like being seen as inferior. but right now im in a ship where the idea of them being both switch make the most absolute sense so im open to the idea. But idk i feel like a hypocrite now and i just dislike the feeling that i coukd feel superior by making my ship switch and then be like 'oh no sweetie thats so heteronormative :)', ' fixed shippers should b allowed to like whatever they want :)' i have felt like i sensed a lot of superiority complex in many people and now I just duslike having a preference at all. Also idk i wish i coukd switch just to shit on both sides. Idk now i operate on pure spite and dont like the feeling i wish i could go back to my positive sweet summer child. I feel like being way too involved in top bottom discourse radicalized me instead and i have escaped the fandom but i cant really fully let go of the mindset now and its driving me crazy bc now everytime i look at fan stuff i cant help but judging them and hates myself for it. I feel bad reading smut now and now i started to understand why fandom the way it is now.
Its just funny bc i never opposed to switch until people chose to attack me for what i liked and now all i feel is just bitterness. Hell i did not like being overtly too concerned with top/bottom myself but the discourses made me have to assert my stance and it opened me to attacks to my character and idk now just semtences like 'x is soft despite dressing this way' triggered me.
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"X is soft despite dressing this way" makes me want to hurl, frankly.
A lot of preferences for ship dynamics are stereotypical, but I don't think we need to read too much into that. Horny preferences are often reactions to a lifetime of encountering stereotypes and aren't easy to sway.
Actual sex preferences in real people just do not work the way they do in porn. Some people have the most stereotypical tastes ever. Some have the opposite. Some don't know what they like. Nothing makes sense because it's real life.
In fiction, people like whatever the writer finds hottest or whatever makes the narrative work.
If you're writing a realistic book for teens about what it's actually like to be queer identity X, then I would not include "the girly one is the bottom" nonsense. But if you're writing erotica as a hobby, there is no reason to assume or demand that it will be ~good representation~. Hell, even if you're writing romance novels professionally, they're just not about that. There are levels of offensive stereotype that I find to be beyond the pale, but cliched top/bottom roles are something a lot of audiences like and that I expect to have to wade through to find what I prefer.
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As for how to heal, I suppose it's like any scarring social experience.
Maybe encountering chiller people will make you feel less pressured to have an angry and absolutist stance. Maybe going and consuming some media from radically different communities will make you internalize the reality of how small and stupid these arguments are.
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maryssa please post all of your marichat hot takes i need them for health reasons
please handle these absolutely scalding takes with care, miss mcwizzy. dont want u to hurt urself. also there are a lot of them so double warning aljsfasjldf
Carpisuns's Hot Marichat Takes That No One Asked For
omg WAIT.... for once someone actually DID ask for them SLKJFDJ ok scratch that
Carpisuns's Super Hot Marichat Takes That, Surprisingly, Someone Did Actually Ask For!! (And Will Probably Regret Asking for as Soon as They Click the Read More djdjdkdm)
marichat tropes are not any more tired/cringey than tropes for any other side of the square. like, what is the real difference between “princess” and “my lady” or a balcony date and a rooftop date lol. they’re all cute and also all have the potential to be overdone fjlaksdlj
the bell is immovable :) zipper is just for show
“chat noir” and “marinette” are not their “true selves.” and “adrien” and “ladybug” are not false/inauthentic versions of themselves. they are themselves all the time, but like any human their behavior changes depending on the situation. there isn’t like a separate list of “chat noir” traits and “adrien” traits or “marinette” traits and “ladybug” traits—all of their traits belong to them at all times whether they are suited up or not, and they are more than just the sum of their parts. they tend to be pretty comfortable interacting as marichat NOT because “they can finally show the real them” but because they both already know each other in another dynamic and there are no crushes or past rejections adding any pressure or uneasiness
marichat is not inherently sexist. yes, adrien wants to protect marinette, but that's not sexism; that's called being a caring friend. and marinette giving comfort to chat noir is not automatically playing into sexist gender roles. that is also being a caring friend. like in any good relationship, there is a healthy give and take. they protect and support and comfort each other. this how it is on all the sides which is why the love square is so great!
on a related note, there is no unhealthy power dynamic between marinette and chat noir. he doesn't think he's better than her because he's a superhero and she's "just a civilian"; he values her intelligence, creativity, skill, talent, strength, and leadership and would never consider her weak or look down on her in any way. and i wouldn’t really consider either of them the “leader” in this dynamic. outside of an active akuma situation they’re on pretty equal ground and i mean what is the power dynamic of two friends chillin’ lol
they take turns being the big/little spoon C:
marinette is not mad that chat likes her as “perfect ladybug” and not as “weak, clumsy marinette.” she has moments of insecurity when she is stressed but in general she has a pretty strong self-esteem and does not seek out or depend on chat noir’s affection for validation
stanning marichat does not mean hating ladrien!! ladrien is a dang good ship and if u don’t like it it then there is something sadly lacking in your understanding/appreciation of the love square—including marichat. also you are depriving yourself of something truly wonderful :(((
same if u hate marichat. most people have a favorite side of the square and that’s a-okay! but i fail to see how you can be a love square stan or a stan of any one side if you don’t enjoy and support all the other sides as well ??
ok but seriously for the love of everything please stop commenting on ladrien fics/art just to say “ladrien sucks, marichat supremacy!!1!!” -_- fun fact that actually makes everyone hate marichat/marichat stans lol and as a marichat stan myself i find the association with that toxicity very exhausting and frustrating !!
marichat is a slowburn friends-to-lovers ship. so if there is no slowburn or u skip friends and go straight to lovers then that is a different dynamic than what is presented in the show. i mean you can call it marichat because it still involves marinette and chat noir but i would not consider it like Official Brand™️ marichat tbh. i don’t wanna sound gatekeepery but also. that is my hot take lol
they’re not sexy,, they’re just very stupid and soft. i am continually confused and frustrated by the fact that marichat is still branded the Sin Ship™️ when canonically they could barely look each other in the eye after doing the traditional cheek kiss greeting lmao
yes there is Bad marichat out there that plays into the things i talked about above but there is also a lot of Good marichat and it is really not that hard to find. so when people say “i like canon marichat but i hate fanon marichat” i just like. don’t really know what that means? lol. like, you hate...all fan-created marichat content ? i assume you just dislike the Sin Ship and the true selves trope and whatnot but there is a lot more than that ?? and it’s sad to see it all get lumped together with the not-so-great stuff and branded Bad Fanon: Do Not Eat lol
marichat cannot exist in isolation. its very existence depends on being part of the square. this might seem like a weird thing to state explicitly but i’ve seen people get mad that there was too much adrienette/ladynoir in a marichat fic and that it wasn’t really “marichat” and i mean….what? lol. because it’s a civilian/hero combo, you have to show how it affects ladynoir and adrienette. u cant just have marichat be dating and then pretend like the other sides of the square don’t exist ? flsjadjk
totally platonic marichat....godly
romantic marichat developed from platonic marichat.....also godly
they would eat dirt and it would be weirdly cute and i have proof
even if marinette and chat noir fell for each other, they'd never just forget OG crush over even fully "get over" them imo. adrien and ladybug will always hold a special place in their heart and they will always love them in some way!
there’s no such thing as post-reveal marichat. if they know each other’s identities then the dynamic has changed and the square has all been absorbed into like Adrienette 2.0 lol
and for the hottest take of all:
marichat good
thank you for your time. please take a goodie bag on the way out
#tizzy I did warn u lmao#ask#tizzymcwizzy#marichat#rants#yeah that will be a tag now ig djdkdk#or was it already a tag? it should be 😭😂
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“mileven only made out” and “mileven dont know how to communicate” is borderline ableist, and you guys need to be more careful with your words
You’re allowed to have your own opinions on characters and ships, however it reflects on a lot of real life issues cause characters often represents those issues that real people struggle with every day.
The st characters don’t get to interact a lot with every. single. other character because there simply isn’t time in the show. Look at Max and Will.. does them only having had one conversation in the show mean that we can assume that thats the only one they’ve ever had? not really cause that wouldn’t make sense...
Things happen between seasons and scenes. We cant know what happened for sure but we can try and piece a picture together based on what the characters do, how they act towards each other, and what the vibe is.
Mike and Els way of communicating is unique because of Els limited vocabulary..
But its easy for them to communicate and understand each other.
They have their own special way of communicating and being with each other..
Considering the places El came from when he first met her, he was being perfectly gentle and considerate and managed to find a way to make her comfortable and they found their way to communicate and talk.
Their way of talking and being with each other is actually really beautiful and pure, and it doesn’t deserve to be diminished because of Els small vocabulary.
And about “mileven only made out”...
i’m gonna drop some pictures here that i think really indicates that their relationship was a lot deeper than just making out...
And El told Mike about her mom and the time she looked for her, something suuuper super personal...
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This parallel that i believe instagram editor wolfhard.lol discovered suggests that Mike had every reason to be as concerned as he was. El had been manipulated by Brenner for years to think the things she was doing weren’t dangerous, to think she was safe when she wasn’t at all. Mike knows that El feels super responsible for all the upside down related stuff that happens, and is willing to push herself far beyond what she can handle because he’s witnessed how self sacrificial she can get first hand...
He knows her well enough to know when she was in danger when no one else did, even herself,,
No matter how, they’ve clearly further bonded and definitely have a deeper understanding of each other and they clearly got to know each other better during their relationship...
They had two kissing scenes, and you’re allowed to assume they made out a lot,
But Hopper was shown to first be petty and overprotective when he was upset over them.
Later it was shown that the reason he felt that way was because Mike and El spent so much time together and Hop felt like El was slipping away from him and that it was ok but it just hurt.
It wasn’t because mileven only made out. Hoppers words about them was clearly shown to be AN EXAGGERATION
My point is, there’s no real reason to assume that milevens relationship ONLY consisted of making out...
So when you guys act like its canon and that theres no other way to interpretate it..
When you guys say they only made out, you’re saying that you think they didn’t talk, didn’t communicate and didn’t bond further in the span of a 6 MONTH RELATIONSHIP....
WHY??
QUICKLY??
The only thing that differentiates milevens communication from the other st couples is Els limited vocabulary...
You might not realize it, but sometimes you guys imply that Els limited vocabulary diminishes her relationships and makes her unable to connect with people and its just borderline ableist.
You can make all the assumptions you want about what happened between seasons and what the characters are like,
But only mileven gets this treatment. Only EL gets this treatment. Only her relationships and connections to people are diminished like this.
And also, acting like Els limited vocabulary and trauma ONLY invalidates or disproves her relationship with Mike doesn’t make it any less ok and it doesn’t excuse it just because its a het ship.
Els limited vocabulary is not proof against mileven, its not proof for byler and you should know that acting like it is is super wrong. You guys just need to stop.
You’re allowed to dislike mileven. You’re allowed to hate mileven. But you have to question your reasonings and you have to question the things you’re saying because sometimes it can be hurtful.
Ableism towards El in this fandom is a very big issue not just here, but in every part of the fandom and i think it needs to be talked about more.
I know you don’t mean to, but you’re hurting people. So before you get defensive please just consider what i’m saying.
#you guys need to do better#you guys need to think about what youre saying#mileven#strangerthings#st#elhopper
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Pride Month Headcanons!
So its Pride Month! And as a proud member of the alphabet mafia I wanna give my opinion on all the Danganronpa characters' sexualities! So let's go, starting with THH!
Trigger Happy Havoc
Makoto Naegi- Pansexual. I'm under the belief all protags are Pan. Transgender(ftm). So I have this whole hc that the reason his door was jammed was that the lock was quickly removed when they found out SHE was actually a HE and I just like the hc lol.
Sayaka Maizono- Straight. I just think she has a big thing for Makoto, but other than that she cares for her career more than a relationship.
Leon Kuwata- Bisexual, heavy female leaning. I ship him with Hiro, but honestly this fucker would probably take forever to admit he likes guys.
Chihiro Fukisaki- Gay. Dont really have a reasoning. Just my opinion lol
Mondo Oowada- Bisexual. He mentions trying to confess to girls, but come on. This guy is fruity for Taka.
Kiyotaka Ishimaru- Gay. This dude meanwhile is just straight homo. He's probably closeted in fear it would bring shame to his family name again.
Hifumi Yamada- Straight. I honestly dont think about the guy enough to give this enough thought, but the way he simps over Celeste proves he likes girls at least. Plus he kept calling Alter Ego she, so...yeah.
Celestia Ludenberg- Straight. Honestly I think she'd be homophobic? Idk i really dislike Celeste, sorry 😅 She just gives me those vibes.
Sakura Oogami- Bisexual. I wanna label her as lesbian, but Kenshiro exists 😒 Women leaning possibly
Kyoko Kirigiri- Bisexual. Though i dont personally ship her with any girls, I can see her going both ways.
Byakuya Togami- Gay. And it's a problem with his family, so he's closeted.
Yasuhiro Hagakure- Pansexual. He just wants to love someone, man lmao.
Aoi Asahina- Bisexual. Again, wanna label her as lesbian, but the Bad End exists, showing she willingly got with three guys. And she does ask Makoto to pretend to be her bf. But she leans heavily towards females imo.
Toko Fukawa/Genocide Jill- Bisexual. It was straight until she met Komaru. Then she realized "Oh shit. I'm gay." But she still has a small thing for Byakuya ig 😒
Mukuro Ikusaba- Straight. We pretend the thing with her sister doesnt exist, alright?
Junko Enoshima- Straight. And definitely homophobic.
Wow a lot of bi peeps lol. Alright, onto the next game!
Goodbye Despair
Hajime Hinata- Pansexual. Again all protags are Pan. Fight me, prove me wrong you literally cant.
Ultimate Imposter- Panromantic, Nonbinary, Asexual. Though I call Imposter he a lot, I think it's almost canon they're nonbinary. I just have stupid brain and type he first without thinking. I also dont really have a reason for thinking they're asexual? I just think they are. But they're probably panromantic in order to fit their talent better.
Teruteru Hanamura- Pansexual. He's so painfully pan. He even says his options are, and I quote, "pretty open." Dis bitch gay.
Mahiru Koizumi- Lesbian. Dont think I gotta explain myself.
Peko Pekoyama- Bisexual. She's totally dating Fuyuhiko, but I can see her having small crushes on other girls.
Hiyoko Saionji- Lesbian. Also dont think I need to explain myself.
Ibuki Mioda- Bisexual. RAGING bisexual. Also I can honestly see her being Gender Fluid as well.
Mikan Tsumiki- Bisexual. She honestly needs therapy more than she needs a relationship, and she probably doesnt really understand her own labels completely, but I think shes bi.
Nekomaru Nidai- Bisexual. Homeboy was a little TOO eager to be rubbed down by Teruteru 😏 Just kidding, though I do think Nekomaru is bi. No real reason honestly
Gundham Tanaka- Bisexual. He obviously has a thing for Sonia, and in a perfect world(i.e. my perfect world) he would be holding hands with Kazuichi daily. Speaking of holding hands he basically breaks Hajime's in the FTEs. Gay 🥰
Nagito Komaeda- Gay. He's very obviously gay coded, mostly towards Hajime though I dont personally ship that.
Chiaki Nanami- Pansexual. She loves everyone equally. Honestly she probably doesnt put too much work on her labels and would probably go by any pronouns as well, so maybe Gender Fluid?
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu- Bisexual. Like Leon I think it would take him a while to accept he likes guys, and he probably leans towards girls more, but he's definitely fruity lol.
Sonia Nevermind- Pansexual. Our girl fucks. She dont care who, she just FUCKS. 🤣 But seriously, I think she just sees love as love. As she should.
Kazuichi Souda- Gay. Transgender, (ftm). He's so very closeted, so badly even he doesnt recognize it. He probably even has internalized homophobia, probably because of his father. Not sure why I hc him as trans, I just think it fits.
Akane Owari- Straight. She probably doesnt think about it much. All she knows is she likes fighting, meat, and Coach Nekomaru.
Alright and onto the last game!
Killing Harmony
Shuichi Saihara- Pansexual, Transgender(ftm). Its. THE RULE. I didnt make it. Sue me. Also fuck it I dunno I think it fits with his whole character if he were trans. Hard to explain lol
Rantaro Amami- Biromantic, Asexual. I admittedly dont know much about Rantaro, but from what I do know, I think he would fit well with just about anyone. I dont have much of a reason for him being Ace.
Kaede Akamatsu- Pansexual. She was the protagonist first, so the rule still applies lol. But even beyond that it just fits her. Hard to explain, it just seems like it works.
Ryoma Hoshi- Straight, Asexual. I know on my ship list I said I shipped him with Gonta, but theres a reason that ship was so low. I heavily think Ryoma is straight. It's just the vibe I get from him. Maybe hes bi curious, but idk. As for the ace bit, it's really dark. I hc it's because of the trauma he endured during prison.
Kirumi Tojo- Lesbian. Idk I look at her and I think "Lesbian power. Powerful wlw moments." Dont ask me my brain just does things.
Angie Yonaga- Pansexual. She always seemed like she was flirting with Himiko and lowkey Tenko, and in the FTEs she straight up wants to get married to Shuichi so like....I dunno what you want me to say.
Tenko Chabashira- Lesbian. Literally no explanation needed.
Korekiyo Shinguji- Pansexual. Putting aside the....obvious....he finds all of humanity beautiful, so he most likely doesnt have a preference when it comes to choosing a partner. Just like with Mukuro we pretend that entire plotline never happened.
Miu Iruma- Pansexual. I see her as pretty open to everyone....Yeah. That's all I got.
Gonta Gokuharu- Bi-curious. Honestly I dont think Gonta knows what he is himself. He probably hasnt given it too much thought, if hes given it any. The best I can think of is bi-curious, assuming hes currently exploring his sexuality.
Kokichi Ouma- Gay. I dont ship him with anyone cause I personally think he'd be a bad partner to anyone he got with based off of his personality, but yeah. He gay lmao.
Kaito Momota- Pansexual. THE LUMINARY OF THE STARS IS FOR EVERYBODY! Probably took a while for him to admit he wasnt straight, but then he admitted it with his whole heart, precious thing.
Tsumugi Shirogane- Straight. Fuck I dunno I dont think about her in a positive light enough to care. Sorry I really tried 😅
Kiibo- Panromantic, Genderfluid, Asexual. Like Imposter, I've called Kiibo he all the time, including every story I put them in, but technically they have no gender. So that does make them nonbinary, but at the same time it leaves the opportunity for them to go by any pronoun they want, so I hc they go by all of them lol. I also think they just love everyone, and for the ace bit, unfortunately, robots probably dont have dicks 😔 Even if they did, I dont think he would be very interested in sex.
Himiko Yumeno- Lesbian. Despite her treatment of Tenko, her reaction at the end of chapter 3 shows she cared for her, and Angie. She probably loved them both, so, lesbian for sure.
Maki Harukawa- Straight. Kaito was probably her first ever crush, so I doubt she ever had a chance to feel out if she was anything other than straight. Even disregarding that, I dont think she'd be anything else.
Alright and those are my headcanons for all the Danganronpa characters! As a bonus, I think Komaru Naegi is a Lesbian! No real reason other than Tokomaru is top tier lol.
Now remember these are my opinions! If you dont agree that's fine! Just be kind!
And HAPPY PRIDE EVERYONE! 🥰🏳️🌈
#danganronpa#danganronpa 2#danganronpa v3#pride 2021#pride month#headcanons#makoto naegi#hajime hinata#shuichi saihara#kyoko kirigiri#chiaki nanami#maki harukawa#kaito momota#byakuya togami#nagito komeada#kokichi oma#gundham tanaka#chihiro fujisaki#kaede akamatsu#tsumugi shirogane#kiibo#alphabet mafia#happy pride 🌈
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This is a series of asks bc, while I do LIKE all the charas of Fantastic Beasts individually, much of the romantic pairings dont sit well with me. By that mean the messy love polygon w Newt & I think I finally figured out why & I'd like another's opinion on it. For starters, Newt's attraction with Tina is too fast for me considering he was friends w Leta, got expelled out of Hogwarts for Leta, carried Leta's photo in his case, & basically loved her for YEARS. But this is all undone by a [1]
jaunt in NY having met a woman, who he admittedly went on a huge adventure w, over the course of maybe a few weeks. He's so taken w her she replaces Leta's photo w her own &, after refusing to go to Paris for Dumbledore, leaves immediately once he finds out she's there. I just find this unbelievable. I can rationalize it from Newt's perspective where Tina is a fresh breeze sweeping into his life on (percieved) unrequited pining, but this is my conjecture based on my understanding of Newt. [2]
The audience shouldnt be left to rationalize endgame couple of the mc on their own. & the whole thing w Leta is so messily handled I dont think they can save it even if they bring her back in FB3. How she feels for Newt vs Theseus & unresolved lingering affection, etc. She & Newt were SO important to each other & we SEE that & they dont HAVE to get together, but they need proper resolution bc they have actual history between them. God Leta in general deserved so much better. [3]
But my main gripe is that this love polygon serves no purpose to what I believe is the main selling point of FB: the world. HP having love stories makes sense bc we're following the story of a boy as he goes through adolescence & his journey through that via school is part of that, which is why the romance feels fitting. It's a very personal story. FB on the otherhand is the best peak we have at the wider wizarding world beyond school. HP introduces the world of magic, but FB rlly expands it [4]
To that end Jakob & Queenie's relationship is the only one I find myself liking, bc it's deeply tied to the world setting, the series' biggest selling point (in my opinion, should have said this earlier). It underscores the attitudes of the period & the conflict they face feels suitably substantial & not like filler. There's a moral question between them of are they worth it? And how far should they go to be together?
Imma be real hear & say FB2 was rlly Queenie's movie & they should have been ballsy & just make Queenie the mc for FB2, bc her story was actually considerably more important to the overall development of the story than Newt's, which mostly came off as a rushed & a tad clichè soap drama. & making it about Queenie I think builds more room for good conflict & independent narrative for Tina that would serve her chara better. [5? 6?]
If I bad to be REAL ballsy, I'd say my big issue w/ the relationships in the FB series & how it enhances or impedes the main story & what I believe to be it's biggest attracter (the setting) could have been solved if they made Newt's romantic interest a muggle. It attaches a deeper meaning & relevance to them & the story so it felt more deeply that they truly moved WITH the narrative rather than beside it but I guess Im just picky. Thx for putting up w this! [Final]
(My response below the cut.)
Yeah, pretty much all of this is right.
Regarding the Tina thing, it was definitely rushed, especially since there was literally nothing romantic between them in the whole first movie, except maybe the end part where they're stumbling over their words. Despite knowing how movies work and knowing that they were the male and female lead, I still found that completely out of left field, because they don't really share any interests and I didn't feel like they felt anything in particular for each other before that. She really wants to be an auror and feels really intensely about it; he just wants to travel the world and write about magical creatures and take care of them. I don't see a lot of compatibility there, and the movie didn't really do anything to reconcile that gap.
Jacob and Queenie made sense, because they actually sowed some seeds for it. It's not even about the fact that they both like to cook; they showed an interest in each other throughout. They noticeably like each other. Newt and Tina never really had that, to me, so it was bizarre for her to become his primary motivation in the second movie.
Queenie's trajectory in movie 2 overall bothers me, so while I agree it would have been better if they'd centered it more around her, I definitely think they needed to drastically rewrite pretty much everything she did. Enchanting Jacob at the beginning never sat well with me; I usually only have to say this in the Descendants fandom, but if one half of the ship is magical and the other half isn't, we can't have the magical one enchanting the non-magical one for romantic reasons without addressing what a violation of trust that is. Like, Jacob would be justified for never trusting her again, over that. Also, the fact that she apparently holds it against people if they think bad things about her is not something I would expect from someone who has been a Legilimens as long as she has, and not a detail I like, at all. Especially since it was used to give her justification to be mad at Jacob after she enchanted him in the first place. I find it sad, because Queenie was definitely my favorite character in the first movie. (Also, joining Grindelwald was a nonsensical thing to do. I can only assume she's there to spy on him or something, because it makes literally no sense.)
As for Leta, I really don't like how that was approached. First of all, I don't like how their mention of her in the first movie was "She was a taker; you need a giver," because once we actually met the character, that only made me resent Queenie for representing her that way. Leta deserved better in pretty much every way, and they definitely shouldn't have killed her off like that. I find the whole situation really iffy from a racial standpoint. The first black character to be written three-dimensionally in all of HP lore, and they make sure to preemptively tell the audience that she's a "taker", kill her in the same movie we meet her, and manage to trivialize her death by turning it into a little "Who was she saying 'I love you' to?" mystery. I like her relationship with Newt and Theseus, and I'd definitely want to see more of it.
Yes, it definitely would have been better, thematically, if they'd made the love interest a Muggle. (I'd honestly say they should've paired Newt with Jacob, but I know they're unwilling to do that. That would be kind of cool, though, to see the movie shaping up with two male characters and two female characters and have the men end up with each other and the women just live their lives as humans.)
With the story they ended up telling, though, I don't think that is needed; since Queenie is already dealing with the wizard/Muggle storyline, Newt could have a different conflict. Maybe his love interest should be a werewolf or something, to tie in the wizarding world's unresolved dislike for "half-breeds". And if he were in a relationship with someone already regarded as a creature, the wider wizarding world might take a different view to his studies and look down on him a lot more. Idk, a thought.
And then, with Leta/Theseus and Grindelwald/Dumbledore (if they were willing to actually deal with that), they'd pretty much hit every controversial beat they've got: wizard/Muggle, wizard/"half-breed", interracial, homosexual. Credence and Nagini are both creatures, kind of, but I still like them together, so their relationship doesn't have to tie into any theme; it just has to be developed way more.
On the whole, Crimes of Grindelwald felt like they skipped a movie. It feels like they needed a middle installment to make these relationships happen, instead of jumping from "Do Newt and Tina maybe have feelings for each other?" to "Newt loves Tina and Tina is possessive enough of Newt to be outwardly upset with him when she thinks he's engaged to someone else," and creating a whole relationship between Credence and Nagini that we see none of.
The fact that Queenie and Jacob were done well in the first movie gives me a fair amount of goodwill for them, but that goodwill only offers enough cushioning from the botching that movie 2 did that I'm near-indifferent to the ship, now, instead of actively opposed. I'd like to see things improved, but as it currently stands, I'd be just as happy seeing them end up not together as together. The fact that Leta's relationships with Newt and Theseus were more interesting than any of the aforementioned makes it that much more ridiculous that they killed her. What ship am I supposed to care about how? If I can't go into the next movie delusionally hoping Newt and Leta will get some moments, or enjoying the Theseus and Leta content, then I'll just be sitting there waiting for Credence and Nagini to share a screen, and who knows when that'll happen?
#long post#fantastic beasts and where to find them#crimes of grindelwald#newt scamander#leta lestrange#theseus scamander#jacob kowalski#queenie goldstein#tina goldstein#credence barebone#nagini
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klaine and brittana are canon ships where the show gives you reasons to love them. kurtbastian and hevans are fan-made ships with no basis in the show. it makes sense to wonder why people would ship those ships.
also, it's awesome that you're generalizing klaine shippers like this when it's members of your kurtbastian fandom that are the most hateful people on here.
go to any klaine or brittana blog and i guarantee that their page will be filled with their love for klaine or brittana with the very occasional anti post.
go to most non-klaine kurtbastian blogs and i bet that one of their top tags will be "lol blaine" or "lol klaine," some of you even have some variation of "i don't like blaine" in your bio, how lame is that?
point is, our klaine and brittana blogs are based on loving something. most of yours (with the exceptions of that one hevans shipper who is super friendly + the klaine multishippers) are based on hating something else to make your ship look better.
that's why we're so annoyed. our ships can stand very nicely on their own. most of you all seem to think that yours require hatred and tearing the canon ships down to make yours look better, which is probably because there's pretty much nothing in canon to support your ships.
do you see the difference?
there's nothing wrong with disliking klaine, and i don't support anyone trying to force them to like the ship. it's also fine to talk about specific reasons that you dislike the ship.
but i draw the line at people trying to twist every single klaine interaction to make the ship "toxic" to prop up their own ships. which many of you do, all the time, even over the most innocuous of actions. i've seen it on your blog as well.
why can't the non-klaine shippers just focus on whatever it is that you do like about your ship, whether it be the "potential" of hevans or the chemistry in kurtbastian (idk, i'm just spitballing here because i don't really know what people like about these ships) instead of having the basis of your blog be about hating klaine? some of you are cool and do this, why can't all of you do it?
p.s. if this is about that one dumbass kurt anon, that's ONE person. not at all representative of us as a whole.
Hi hun💜
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this post out for me.
I will assume you have not actually been to my blog, only seen a few of my recent posts(which is completely okay)
I spend a lot of time, most of my time actually, showing love for Brittana and the non-canonical ships I enjoy. I'd say 97% of my blog is just positive energy towards the things I enjoy.
(I don't have lol Blaine or whatever as my top tags or probably in my tags at all-maybe once-so that doesn't really apply to me. I cannot control what others put on their blogs💜)
I will assume you are oblivious to what goes on on tumblr, many of my fellow Kurtbastian and Hevans shippers are often berated about why they dont like Klaine/Blaine, so when faced with this question of course they will give their *negative* input on the subject at hand. (Dont ask and they wont tell-not saying you are one of these anons)
Also many people have "not friendly to" in their bio, it is not just people who multiship Kurt.
We as humans often block out what we don't want to see or allow our memories to be lethally selective, so I understand you trying to paint your fellow Klaine shippers in a positive light, but the truth is they can be just as toxic towards characters and ships they don't like as well.
Everyone can run their blog as they wish I feel, it can be very frustrating at times, yes. But it is their blog. That is why we tag things, so should others not want to see it they can blacklist or filter out those tags💜
I truly hope that your time on tumblr can treat you well, and I hope that you and everyone else can accept and understand that not everyone has to like klaine/blaine. Just as not everyone has to like Brittana, or Santana or Brittany. 💜
Thank you again for the ask
#long post#anon(derogatory)#<-sorry thats just my tag#anti klaine stans really#anti klaine#anti Blaine
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here's the thing
no, no topic should be banned or censored either in fanworks or not, ao3 shouldn't censor their works, and people have the right to write whatever they want
and no, no trope/ship/whatever (or well, almost no trope/ship. shit like uncritically using the mommy trope is racist end of story) is inherently problematic to write about, and yes, it does depend on how its written and dealt with. god knows i write about abuse all the fucking time
and no, writing dead dove fics doesn't mean ur a bad person or are supporting these things, it just means ur exploring heavy topics in ur writing. again, god knows i do that
but that doesnt mean that
you cant criticize specific works that do handle certain topics in a problematic way
you cant point out that a fandom in general has a racism problem, or that the reason why a particular trope is so popular is because of racist/biphobic/etc bias
i know there are people who advocate for censoring in fanworks (although honestly, theyre a WAY smaller bunch than yall like to pretend), but over time this discussion (which is valid and important, because we should talk about art and heavy topics and how they intertwine) has become basically an excuse for ppl to think themselves, or their fandoms, above criticism
I've never met anyone who advocates for fanworks censoring, but over the last year, in the same fandom, Ive seen ppl call someone a bully for mentioning on their blog that a particular fic/author (without mentioning who the author was or giving any information that would make that obvious) bothered her because they wrote a latina character in a racist light; Ive seen people be cut off completely by previous friends for saying (nicely and upon being asked) that they didnt care for a ship said friend was writing about; Ive seen a person be kicked out of a fandom server for saying that they dont like a specific ship, without previous warning. not that it was wrong, not that it was disgusting, not that it should be censored. that they didnt like it. Ive seen any calling out within that fandom of racist or otherwise problematic tropes and works be shut down and regarded as "bullying" or "being the purity police". I've been assumed to be in favor of censoring because i complain on my fucking personal blog, with tags, while not advocating for shit, about things that i dont like within that fandom. Ive been assumed to hate a particular ship that i ship for pointing out that its fandom has a tendency to be acephobic. Ive seen people go out of their way to write untagged triggering content just to "make antis mad". I've gotten hate anons for posting about disliking certain characters (and even for making jokes about characters that i actually like), despite the fact that whenever i complain about that i always tag it as both hate for the specific character and a general tag for when im complaining about stuff, plus another tag for discourse shit, and i never ever put it on the general fandom or that character's tag or any other tag that isnt the ones previously mentioned. and that's all within the year, in the same fandom
and like its funny because the "anti-anti" crowd likes to say that ppl who criticize racist tropes and similar stuff (whom they all strawman as "antis" who "want censorship") dont know anything about Nuance and dont understand that you can mention problematic topics without being problematic. but they're the ones who suddenly decided that any and all criticism or debate within fandom means wanting censorship, banning of content, and bullying
and it's so clear and obvious that this has become simply an excuse to put yourself and the things you consume above criticism and to shut down, well, minorities as a whole, but notably people of color, who are upset by the bullshit we see in fandom every minute of every day, and that directly affects us and our mental health. and to make entitled ass people act like everyone must like everything they like, every ship and character and trope, and try to get people who dont (again, not even people who think it's problematic, just people who dont like it) to be bashed and excluded, all under the excuse of some sort of anti censorship activism
and it's fucking tiring and ridiculous and frankly disrespectful of a discussion that is extremely important, but that has just become a go-to excuse for spoiled ass fans to think themselves and the things they like as supreme and undeserving of criticism or even dislike of any kind
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The Percy Jackson Fandom is Toxic
Talk about a Jeffree Star title (smack) ow, okay
But yes, you heard me right, the Percy Jackson Fandom is toxic.
Now let me tell you why AND how to fix it
Now, let me start out with naming some of the most controversial topics in the fandom.
Caleo and if it was toxic, whether Luke died a hero or not, and Calypso and Rachel within themselves.
Why are these topics controversial? Because everyone has their own ideas on them and they are VERY different. Now, that's great! Please have your own ideas and opinions, but everytime I see an Anti Caleo post, it makes me mad. Not because Caleo is the fuel to my fire, (my opinion on them changes daily) but even on a day were I was not liking the ship I'd still get mad. Why? Because its hate. Now Lory, you just said we should have our own opinions?
Agree! You should! But their are better ways to express yourself than saying "Caleo sucks." Because what if that is someones favorite ship? Or if I see a post that says, "I hate Rachel Dare because she kissed Percy." You might as well put Annabeths name up their too. They both kissed Percy, that's not a good argue. And if you do have a post that says Rachel sucks, I recommend you take it down.
Not because your opinion is bad. But because the way you stated it isnt very nice or understandable.
Now that we've addressed the issue, here are some better ways to express how you feel. Now, I'm going to pick Piper Mclean as our Guinea pig. I, personally, love Piper. She's a strong badass woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind. But if you disagree, here's a better way to put it besides "Pipers annoying"
"Piper/or other ship/Character, just isn't my favorite because....(insert well argued fact)
"The reason i dislike Piper/or other ship/character,.... (instert well argued reason)
If you dont have a good reason that you dislike a character and dont have a kind way to put it, keep it to yourself.
I see about ten posts everyday that make me want to leave the fandom. Not necessarily because I disagree with the opinion (I personally love seeing what other people think and why, I think it's fascinating) but because its filled with hate. Its toxic. I'm not saying you should stop with your ideas, just simply finding kinder ways to state them.
If you still don't get what I'm saying heres an example. I think Percabeth is the worst ship. They're actually awful and you're weird for liking them.
How did that make you feel? Not at all well I assume! You maybe you would head to the comment section and say something also not so nice. I personally don't care too much for Percabeth for my own reasons, but instead of stating it like i did above a better option would be
Percabeth just isn't my favorite ship because the ship itself is too sweet for my taste. When they get into the relationship we never see them go through any fights or anything like that. Yes, they do get into arguments in the first books when they're friends but while their actually dating they literally never have any bumps. The idea is adorable and the ship in-itself is cute, but it's just a wee bit to perfect for my taste. But I still love the characters!
Was that put better? Did you see my point if view differently? You probably still think I'm crazy (true) but you can agree maybe? You can understand why I said it. I gave a well reasoned point and an idea and still respected the opposing side.
You are entitled to your own opinions
But can we be kinder? Remember what happened to the Greeks and Romans? Yes they have different battle techniques and set up their camps differently, but at the end of they day they can set those aside and be demigod friends.
I don't see that, I really don't. Keep in mind that everyone does not see the same things or understand the same things as you. Everyone is different and thinks different.
That's it. Thanks for reading and I truly hope you can apply these things to your posts and whatnot.
Treat others as you want to be treated.
#percy jackon and the olympians#dont let this fandom be toxic#uncle rick#percy jackson#dont be toxic
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About your Aerith post... i have to confess that her behavior triggered my anxiety so i really dislike her. I remember in the OG i never cared about her, i dont know why in my 10 year old mind she was *mean*, but now I am almost 30 and in this remake i just... can't stand her, i guess is because i have bad experiecies with people like her, so i don't see that as just a minor flaw, but a big RED flag
i felt bad for Cloud, because I suck in that part and like him i was muttering please don't hear me and that was a really bad expierence *to me*, (i know people love her and that doesn’t bother me, i am not like those crazy antis who can’t stand people who like Tifa or Jessie more than Aerith), i had to quit the game for a few hours… i know it seems like a really extreme reaction, but it just hit me harder than expected.
It's not the first time I've brought this up with her behaviour, but what's interesting is the first time I did it I got called toxic and was told "that's an extremist way to view an OG canon scene". Well, I'm sorry, but actually it's not because that's what happens, and just because in the OG it wasn't as explicit that Cloud was sneaking out and people didn't understand it was because he wanted to leave, that's their damn problem.
It's funny how a couple of months later those same people who were saying my take on it was wrong are now saying Aerith's behaviour is problematic and it's a triggering scene for people who understand abusive situations.
I'm used to being ahead of the curve though lol
I didn't care about OG Aerith either when I played. She just rubbed me the wrong way acting all weak and pathetic and then tormenting Tifa, who'd done nothing to deserve it. Maybe the translation was just bad, but Aerith doesn't come across as a nice person in it and I couldn't see why people said Cloud "loves" her. Pity, I got. Like, during the cosmo canyon bit, he feels sorry for her after hearing her history and because he's an awkward dork he tries to comfort her. But I really didn't care about shipping back then, so I wasn't looking at it as a pt scoring thing where his every word is microanalysed as proof he loves one girl more than the other. I just assumed when I saw the lifestream scene and HW that he's in love with Tifa. I still don't see why people argue and act like the choices they made to fuck with the narrative of real Cloud mean they were right. They weren't right. Because if they were the HW wouldn't exist at all. It'd be the high affection or no HW if player choice mattered. But all they did was make Tifa too reluctant to share her feelings. It didn't change Cloud's feelings because he's there either way.
I'm glad the devs showed from Cloud's pov just how bad this bit is. He can't leave because he needs directions home and Aerith isn't giving them over and Elmyra already decided they should wait for morning, even though she changes her mind later. The fact he asks for directions proves that's why he stuck around, along with him not wanting Aerith to spread gossip about him taking a date for his services. Reno already called him weird for it and if it got back to the people who mattered to him that he did this his reputation would be ruined. That's why he stays. And then after he gets directions there's no hesitation. He leaves. He agrees when Elmyra asks him not to see Aerith again. It's not like with Tifa when her father told him to stay away, because there's clear hints he still sees her. Why did she go to the water tower dressed like that if an almost stranger called her out? She says "what did you want to talk about?" in a way that suggests they talk often enough for her not to find it strange.
The only reason Cloud let Aerith go with him after she ambushes him at the exit is because she looked upset. She has tears in her eyes and he makes this yeesh face after he agrees. Because he's a good guy and, even after everything she put him through that day, is guessing she has issues, so humouring her can't hurt. Then she leads him through a dangerous route, despite knowing there's a safer, quicker one, and then she makes him feel bad for not high fiving her, and reminds him of Zack with things she says and then refuses to listen to him when he says no, he wants to leave. It's really only after she mentions a boyfriend that he eases up on his guard and switches posture, then when she says Zack's name he possibly got a trigger from real Cloud telling him to stop being such a dick to his best friend's girl. But then she's an afterthought the second he sees Tifa, which shows who he really cares about in a romantic sense.
It's not anti to call out a character's canon toxic behaviour when there's literally proof of it in game that we can screenshot.
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HS^2 bloggin’ mainline 2020-03-12
I have been told only a few things about the upd8 that just landed, over Discord by two people:
upd19 feat. 4,901,157 read it. now. note: the featuring note is accurate if in a different base than what you might be expecting
What the fuck does that even mean.
Okay Pretty good chapter.
...from another friend who VERY dislikes HS^2? Oh shit.
I also glimpsed a post that may or may not have been about Homestuck at all at the top of my Tumblr feed for an instant that said “YES YES YES YES YES” in huge bold print. I have no idea whether to be excited or nervous.
Okay, it’s not a Bonus update... let me comb through from an earlier page to be careful not to get a spoilerlook at the pagecount...
...huh. That seems... like a conversation that would be up my alley, but not necessarily unique so far or worth all this crowing about. I thought we were about to get Dirk-aliens with a full Horschestra backing... are we getting something else?
> CHAPTER 6. A Conversation Regarding Relevance
Hmmmmmmmm. With the contrast between their reactions and this ominous buildup, there’s got to be a serious fun-twist coming. Right? --I’ll stop with that talk for the moment though.
space is vast. an unproductive statement, almost a tautology. [...]
Alright, that and the starry background are riffing the fuck off Star Trek. Nice homage to Andrew’s roots.
the lives of the many are far too volatile and instinct-driven
Alt!Callie what the fuck are you doing. This is intentional now. You can’t play this off as “what’s a Star Trek”.
tautologies are, in general, reserved for stories. for narrative device. for finding new and inventive ways to tell an audience that which they already know.
God damnit she’s still doing it
neither of us ever able to convince the other of the righteousness of our stance. we were never meant to agree. it isn’t in our blood.
Blah blah overanalyzing classpect blah
when they scoff at my tautology ‘space is vast’, what do they really know? nothing. as far as any of them have experienced, space does not exist.
It’s still nice to see some real personality leak through on Alt!Callie. We definitely know from her other self that she can develop quite a relatable and colorful one. Have the years helped?
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dramantic pouse... ........
Also,
-look at that collar. Damn, Callie, that is a collar
very few have stood and looked into the abyss, the true gulf of nothingness that spreads out around the single point of consciousness adrift in a constellation. all the combined weight of sentient endeavour would quail underneath that sheer, irresistible truth. the realization that they are so small, that the universe cares about their puny lives so very little. sitting in the glowing light of the stars this becomes even more apparent
In the official aspect quiz I never took the time to analyze, the aspects were put on a wheel where Space was a neighbor to Void, if I recall correctly. I wonder how much those aspects engender feelings of goddamnit I’m doing it again aren’t I
...
are we out of orange juice?
Yesss let more personality Alt!Callie bleed through, more of it~
Wait, does Alt!Callie even taste through Jade? Isn’t this remote control? Is she vicariously drawing pleasure from Jade’s not-just-meat-or-candy mostly-human taste buds or?
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JADE: are you talking to me? JADE: because if you are i would like to remind you that i hate!! orange juice!!
OH FUCK YES!!! SHE’S IN THERE AND AWAKE!!! SHE STILL HAS AT LEAST ENOUGH AGENCY TO BE PRESENT AND ARGUE WITH CALLIE! YESSSSSS
no you don’t.
JADE: well i guess i never really had a strong opinion on it before JADE: but now i cant stand it!! JADE: its all you drink!
i like the pulp.
QUIT INADVERTANTLY FORCING SHIT ON JADE WITH NARRATIVESPEAK GIVE HER A BIT OF LEEWAY ALT!CALLIE YOU CONTROLLING--
JADE: its my body and i dont want orange juice! JADE: i hate pulp, and i didnt just make that up to spite you JADE: who wants strings in their juice?
i do.
JADE: ughhhhhhhhh
I have had friends hopefully fantasize about and/or therapeutically roleplay this exact situation with Jade breaking through and arguing with Alt!Callie’s control to make this all a fair bit more palatable but I didn’t dare to hope we’d get even THIS much
Maybe the HS^2 authors DO care about not leaving us wallowing in hopeless witness to the characters’ constant torture and existential turbosuffering!!!! :#D
i realize that jade’s situation is less than ideal from a characterization perspective, but i still politely point out that nobody likes a whiner.
Fuck you, this isn’t CALIBORN you’re trying to repress you asshole! Leave Jade some AGENCY!!!!! She deserves it!!
JADE: fuck you rude calliope inside my head!
YES EXACTLY
JADE: why dont you try being possessed by the spirit of some other version of a good friend of yours, and floated around a spaceship full of people you love JADE: unable to affect anything or say hello to anyone! JADE: then tell me about whiners!
i killed my brother and consumed him.
JADE: sounds like a you problem
Compromise and give her some agency finally come on compromise and give her some agency you red-text twatwaffle
i suggest to the witch that i have spent untold eons in the void between universes, waiting for the moment i would be needed to prevent the dissipation of reality as we know it. her appeals to emotion will not help her. i will remain unmoved.
Oh god damnit.
JADE: well i had to watch my boyfriend and my brother die in front of me on a tiny scaled version of a world that i shrunk for them! JADE: and then spend the next three years talking to myself, wracked with guilt that id killed them!
Oh. God. Damnit. This had better not be where the Suicide trigger warning was coming from. Are there going to be any characters left who DIDN’T emerge from this mess feeling suicidal?!? (I mean if there were any understandable case it would be three years alone on the golden ship Jade but-- I mean COME ON, we have to discuss that in our FIRST GLIMPSE at her since the epilogues?!?)
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i remind the witch that my time was in the void, which is far darker and lonelier [...]
Oh fuck you don’t compare suffering as an excuse to COMPLETELY body-enslave and squash the agency of someone when you probably don’t have to. You’re just doing what’s COMFORTABLE alt!Callie admit it. There’s a way you could give her some leeway, I’m almost positive.
JADE: even if i had the powers of a first guardian, my brain still worked in modules of human pattern recognition! JADE: three years is a long time for a human teenager, i dont care how many of her molecules are made of a god!
(i love it when jade talks smart, that bit of the epilogues was a treat too, plz reveal more of the big brain on jade)
It seems Jade can’t see or quite understand the full import of there being a “narrative”. Or THINKS she cant, because she still says:
JADE: your voice is impossible to read and i cant see your face
If she’s “reading” alt!Callie’s remarks, that means she’s breaking through to understand the narrative to SOME extent. She might be one of the ones who learns to do that a little more and better in the future, especially with alt!Callie almost unintentionally training her to see it.
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Oh, good. So A!C’s not above being considerate. That’s a step in the right direction.
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D’aww, Jade conceding and trying to empathize like her usual self. I appreciate it. :) --but Alt!Callie’s definitely in the wrong here.
JADE: but i think it is a very natural thing to be silly when you are used to being able to control your own body, but now cant
i will allow that, yes.
Thanks. Learn some damned reason.
jade smiles. dave and karkat will always be a source of pain for her, a low ache somewhere in her center of gravity, but she is happy for them. she knows that there is really no other alternative for how to be. they chose each other over her, and they always will. they are the two people who matter to her the most in every universe, and that will not change, no matter how much she wishes it would, no matter how--
JADE: do you actually know that?
pardon me?
Oh, shit.
JADE: do you actually know that im doomed to pine over dave and karkat across every iteration of reality? JADE: like, can you actually see that? JADE: because youre a space player, like i am. JADE: i know that you are more powerful than me, but i dont think you can see other timelines any better than i can JADE: so i think you are just being dramatic JADE: for the “audience”, whatever the heck that means
i experience a moment of unease as jade looks at me. keeping her out of my thoughts is proving to be more difficult than i had first assumed it would be.
That’s a damned interesting question. I was giving the narrative the benefit of the doubt, but given everything the Epilogues warned us about when it came to the narrators and alt!Callie’s occasional slips into her own bias, I really should have known better.
i had begun confident that i could keep her consciousness sleeping peacefully inside the shell of her body, tamed and quiescent, but she has proved to be more irascible than i initially gave her credit for.
JADE: heheh JADE: i have never been particularly tamable, and my consciousness is huge!
This might end up playing out more like my friend’s Jade-breaks-out roleplays than I initially assumed. (What does she mean “huge consciousness” though? Superpowered due to part-First-Guardian, like she alluded earlier in the conversation? That never got much play before, so it’s great to see that potential realized here a bit...)
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...I’m a fucking idiot. Of COURSE “huge consciousness” and the whole line around it was just an unsubtle double-entendre. A small part of me actually wondered if it was and dismissed it as a clumsy reading in an instant. How stupid am I? Jade is the best.
If only this sort of thing worked on Cherubs.
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Yeah. It really doesn’t.
...Alt!Callie, you are a fucking war-criminal for bottling all these double-entendres up where none of the others can appreciate them.
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JADE: you are a pretty tough crowd, evil callie JADE: but yes, i can hear most of what you are thinking to yourself JADE: it took a little while to separate it from my own thoughts, just like it did with dirk JADE: because thats what he was doing the whole time, wasnt it? JADE: controlling our thoughts JADE: making us believe things we never would, things he thought we SHOULD believe
Fucking excellent. She’s definitely training herself on this shit. The more people who have a harder time getting fooled by this nonsense the better.
jade knows all of this, i don’t have to tell her. she is a very bright girl, and even if she didn’t have partial access to my thoughts, she is good at compiling data and using it to fill in gaps. as she herself had rather licentiously mentioned, her brain is quite large.
C:
and all of these reasons are why i know i can count on her to be reasonable and realistic about her situation. i need a body to continue interfacing with this timeline, and her body is the only one that will do.
Dammit. Trying to get her to logic her way back into keeping Alt!Callie in complete control. That’s a tactic that will probably work. :(
what about [kanaya], jade? she is a space player, it is true, but her powers are nothing compared to yours. for one, she isn’t god tier, and for two, she is dead. a living dead, but dead nonetheless.
Hm. Are you saying she maybe has less relevance, less of an effect on her surroundings because she spent some of her “cred” on unconventional partial resurrection? To the extent where she’d make a less influential vessel? Hmm.
For that to even matter, you have to be planning to use Jade’s Space powers too. Taking a far more active role in things than narrative beacon.
and a sylph’s specializations lie on a different end of the spectrum from my own. a witch is a far closer match.
!!!!!
Sounds like details of the classpect system that we don’t know will have relevance in HS^2, and we’re indeed gonna possibly get some actual new, clearer details about the system Andrew invented unlike the dearth of new info the Epilogues brought us. That is... promising.
no, jade understands and sympathizes with my assurance that her body, and her body alone, will do for my purposes.
JADE: um...no i dont!
YES. Jade is now officially immune to absolute command! :D :D :D
she does. after all, she would not wish this sort of state of being on anyone else, and especially not on one of her friends. jade may have undergone a lopsided number of narrative hardships in her life, but at least she is used to them. why spread that suffering to another?
What the fucking shit??? You’re using that on her? You think it’ll WORK?!
jade understands and accepts her place in the story, which has always been to enable events to play out around her, just as it has been mine.
..........yeah Jade’s gonna bust the fuck out on the very next page, isn’t she.
What the fuck is Alt!Callie thinking, here? Wasn’t the other Calliope the one to let us know that the Witch is one of the most active classes there is?? ...what exactly does a Witch officially do anyway, for Alt!Callie to think saying such a thing wasn’t dead wrong? This sounds MUCH more like the sort of statement someone might make after breezing through Homestuck and confusing the old Jade (cough) for the person she grew up into.
And the fact that you’re phrasing this as a narrative command to try and make her forcibly THINK this way deserves you a smack in the non-literal depictive face. Let’s see if you get one:
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Oh wow, no smack yet?! That’s some restraint!
because what is a story, truly? nothing but a series of misadventures and connections, actions spurring reactions, tumbling into one another, over and over and over. with so many competing interests, clearly the story cannot account for all perspectives, for all threads? it would be laughable, childish, even selfish, to demand that they do.
in other words, not everyone will achieve a happy ending. this is a truth that jade had come to grips with a long time ago.
JADE: wait. JADE: stop. JADE: why are you saying all of this?
Ohh. Because she still had even MORE smackworthy stuff left to say, to make the smack even SMACKIER, didn’t she. Alt!Callie you asshole. If this gets you kicked out of her almost entirely and jeopardizes the crew as Jade struggles to combat Dirk’s narrative influence on her OWN, then I’m fucking blaming YOU! Do you realize how horrible it’ll be if Dirk gets to almost singlehandedly write the whole story around her and the others for the first section of HS^2 with only one or two characters aware and trying to mentally avert it?? We already TRIED that in the Epilogues! It was awful!
jade’s body is my vessel, and it is through this realization that she will understand her true role in the story. her true relevance.
Go fuck yourself, Alt!Callie. Read the audience a bit!
if i released my hold on her consciousness, there would be no guarantee that i would be allowed in again. therefore i cannot permit her the control of herself that she so desperately craves, and she understands that.
THAT’S your reasoning your used-to-surpressing-Caliborn ignorant--!??
JADE: wait. so...you could give me my body back, and then just hop back in when you need to?
in theory, yes.
JADE: then what the hell callie!
because i don’t trust you to cooperate when the time comes.
MotherfuckerTheMusical.mp4
(or real existing equivalent that’s just off the top of my head)
JADE: why not? JADE: i thought you said i was a reasonable girl with a huge brain!
you are, to an extent.
she is. but the truth of the matter remains that humans are capricious and emotional. and even jade herself can admit that she hasn’t been the most...committed example of her species in the last few years.
Oh my fucking god. I know they’re trying to make this more satisfying when she actually DOES take control in a few panels, but, Alt!Callie, seriously, get more on your other self’s level!!!
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Yes, please >:O some more
moving from lover to lover, job to job, interest to interest. over the last few years jade had found herself listless, unable to settle and unwilling to commit to anything or anyone. she knows there’s nothing wrong with that on a moral level, but on a personal level she’s always believed that she could be more, could do better. be better. and now, because of this, she realizes that sacrifices must be made.
and that she, as a space player, is uniquely built for sacrifice.
JADE: yeah JADE: i guess youre right JADE: i have been such a silly little slut! JADE: hey callie
yes, jade?
JADE: oh my god, whats that!!!!
You are so fucking screwed Alt!Callie.
this space is utterly under my control. jade could control it too, if she had any access to her own powers. but with my grip around her cortex, there is no chance of that.
(Wait, there’s an extent to which this space is “real” and not imaginary? Or does holding her space powers in check also mean keeping her imaginary space powers in check?)
Anyway, here comes the smack. And, though Alt!Callie deserves this, I hope Dirk isn’t let in too often amidst the others as a result.
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Yup, poising to pounce...
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I thought there was a weird infinity symbol underneath them but it’s just two spotlights and a shadow cast by her head.
and here i make my first mistake.
No you made your first mistakes WAAAY earlier in this conversation. And what you did to Jade in general. She’s a hero/player for a reason, she doesn’t take stuff lying down forever.
but bringing her into a place where we can both physically manifest has left me, foolishly, vulnerable.
First, physically manifest? This isn’t pure imaginationspace? And second, she’s going to blame her polite concession to Jade for this and hold on even tighter the next time, isn’t she. God damnit, not looking forward to that. Alt!Callie won’t learn her lesson til the end, will she? :(
her fingers tear at my throat, trying to find purchase. she won’t be able to kill me here, but it is certainly unpleasant, and not to mention slightly repetitive. we just saw this in the previous chapter, although this particular fight will not end as amorously as the last one did. so don’t get your hopes up.
JADE: who! JADE: are you talking to!
I really hope Jade ends up with full narrative powerOOOOOHHHH FUCK THEY COULD GO FOR THAT HUH
Dirk was able to become an Ultimate Self in his own body because it was the uniting of an irrepressible “self” that he always unbreakably represented. The others had more trouble.
But Jade
has a BIG PART-GOD BRAIN as reinforced in the narrative repeatedly!!
Meaning that later, SHE could Ultimate Self without ANY PHYSICAL CONSEQUENCE. :D
I was hoping Jade would end up with full narrative-dictating-and-reading power when she wants to use it, at some point, but I might’ve been aiming too low! :D :D :D
Yaaaaaaaaaaaay
Now all the playfully-horny omnipotent Jade fanfics are true, what that totally isn’t part of why I love this go ahead and admit she doesn’t deserve it
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Yesss flashy gif struggle against control! (Though, not as elegant as one of Andrew’s might’ve been. Gotta say.)
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Blinky-eyes about to resolve normal-Jade-colored....!
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Wait, what? I thought Jade was about to snap in and--
during the ship’s trip through space, there have been numerous experiments; modifications to the nutrition output of the various machines designed to create sustenance for the various species on board. i myself have been content with orange juice and synthetic proteins, but dave and roxy have both expressed longing for various ‘earth snacks’, and so the trials and errors began.
What the fuck? I don’t even know where this is going if it’s punways.
Is there like a dog treat somewhere that’s gonna push her over the edge? Where is this headed even.
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Wh...
WHa??????
the results were mixed. as roxy told us in a previous chapter, alchemized food all sort of tastes the same, although the visuals really help to bring about the flavor. and at the end of the day, isn’t it the journey that is more important than the destination? the stories you tell as you create the strangely flavored nutritional paste?
JADE: ????????????
Um?? What’s even going on.
so far, everyone’s favorite attempt has been a vaguely peanut-butter and chocolate flavored creation called "Rices'". nobody eats them really. they just sit in a bowl on the counter.
i’m not actually sure what the witch is trying to accomplish here.
Is Jade trying to humorously gross Alt!Callie out of her body with a candy she doesn’t like or? But, “suicide threat”? Why joke--
JADE: you dont? JADE: really?
i don’t know what she is trying to accomplish, because surely she would not be doing what it appears she is trying to do. making such a meaningless threat.
JADE: meaningless? JADE: do you even know anything about the body you stole? JADE: shouldnt you have run some sort of psychic physical before you possessed it? JADE: its definitely what i would have done!
Oh SHIT. You mean Jade has the same peanut allergy JOHN does?!?
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jade must know that i am well-aware of her family-wide peanut allergy. a story thread that has been extremely important and weighed in on in multiple parts of the narrative. how could i have forgotten such a key detail?
...yes, she totally forgot, but more than that.
I’m betting John is the ONLY one with a peanut allergy. That Jade is USING that fact to bluff like hell. :D
(Allergies aren’t usually inherited that way you alien!)
there is nothing remotely just or heroic about dying from self-imposed anaphylactic shock in the throes of a childish tantrum. at the most i’ll get a relaxing few minutes of sleep.
Is Alt!Callie bluffing now? Even a resurrecting death could throw her off.
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FUCK YES JADE.
JADE: do you really want to risk it?
what are you talking about, jade? i just said--
FUCK YES JADE, BE A HUGE WITCH
(i say in the most witch-connotatively and non-classpect-related way)
JADE: i dont know, callie JADE: ive never really understood the rules that govern the death of a god tier, have you? JADE: it seems pretty arbitrary from where im standing JADE: who makes the decision whether or not something is heroic or just?
...that’s unclear. but it certainly isn’t you.
JADE: right, of course not JADE: but are you so confident that youre a good guy? JADE: are you sure that the alpha timeline WANTS you to be here?
...what.
JADE: youve done some stuff, callie JADE: im only saying you shouldnt be so quick to assume that me killing you wouldnt be just JADE: and that taking my own life to do it wouldnt be heroic
Even with JUST this one fucking situation Alt!Callie put her in, throwing off her control forever by dying would be shortsighted but HELLA JUST. What Alt!Callie is doing to her is a crime.
Oh shit!?!?
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What is this, HTML5? *clicks play*
...for a second, I thought this was gonna launch into a huge thing with that clock ticking song from the Felt album.
Having Rose and Dirk’s colors competing here really reinforces that... Prospit vs Derse vibe that was feeding the whole this-is-the-basis-for-the-game’s-structure-and-the-birth-of-Paradox-Space theory more earlier.
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i don’t let the witch manipulate me. i refuse to falter in the face of her whispers. without my careful planning and swift action, the prince would have taken full control over this timeline. none of my friends could even begin to imagine the turmoil.
In the end, you’re ignoring what’s right and brave in this instance to instead do something EXPEDIENT, to the exclusion of trust and compassion when things COULD work out just as well without taking the worst actions -- which is textbook villainous.
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JADE: they arent your friends!! JADE: you took them from me!
Now isn’t THAT a way to put it. :D :D :D
Alt!Callie is sinning almost as badly as Dirk, here. Viewing everyone else as characters in a story, the only way she’s ever viewed “friends”, and her as the not-so-humble narrator doing what’s best for all of them. If she’s going to win against Dirk -- or if that victory is going to MEAN anything -- she will HAVE to realize that she needs to be different.
JADE: you keep saying that youre doing all of this for my own good, but youre just lonely! JADE: i know you are, because so am i!
Ouch.
Will Alt!Callie force her to swallow it?
JADE: you said that being a space player is all about sacrifice JADE: well
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JADE: bet
...I guess she really might have an allergy.
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Aaaand the candy drops. A W A K E ! ! ! !
Yaaaaay Jade is BACK and we’ll get to see even more of her!!!
...please tell me on the next page she grabs the candy, noms it, and mentions she doesn’t have a peanut allergy after all. That would be sweet.
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Nope, you just leave us on a sad. Dammit, why do you gotta be all adult and showin’ us both sides in a moment of triumph, HS^2. Shucks.
Anyway, YAY JADE! C:
I am happy by this, if slightly too emotionally-rollercoastered by the past 24-hours to give this the full-rejoicing it deserves. That, and worried about the openings Dirk will get because of this... joy now for potential frustration later, even if Jade tries her best to let Alt!Callie back in in-time.
See y’all next time! And, uhm. I guess I’ll comment on whatever other asks I promised to comment on another less-eventful day. Keep reminding me and holding me to it though!
#Homestuck#hs2#Homestuck Liveblog#upd8#Homestuck^2#bladekindeyewear#blastyoboots#(yes the past 24-hours includes witnessing everyone's despair at realizing the president is going to get our family members virus-killed)#Jade Harley
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hxh and/or fma (for the anime ask meme)
hxh
haven’t heard of it | absolutely never watching| might watch | currently watching| dropped| hated it | meh| a positive okay| liked it| liked it a lot!| loved it| a favorite
don’t watch period| drop if not interested within 2-3 episodes| give it a go, could be your thing| 5 star recommendation
fav characters: i love all the main 4 but definitely gravitate a lot to kurapika!! for more minor characters theres so many but i love knuckle bine a lot dfkjghdfk. also i love alluka and nanika so much my daughters
least fav characters: hisoka, also palm like while i want hisoka to die i Guess i can appreciate his aesthetic far away from gon and killua and also like . i guess he can be an example of how unaccommodating towards kids hxh’s freak ancap society can be but palm just being a pedophile but played for laughs but also theres weird misogyny and ableism in her characterization and then all of a sudden we’re just gonna forget all that and she’s cool now?????? hewwo??????? i would prefer hxh if she did not exist or if a palm siberia that looked similar (again a nice aesthetic) but was entirely not the same character. like . what was gained from this oh my god.
fav relationship: gon and killua!!!!! ofc i love leorio and kurapika too but killua and gon is so blatant and i feel it could literally happen or at least just . they just Are each others first loves and they make me emotional in so many ways. non romantically just the found family in the main 4 and also killua and alluka and then killua coming to love and understand nanika too through alluka caring for her…. oh my god…. Siblings….
fav moment: omg uhhhh theres a lot?? a big one that immediately comes to mind tho is killua pulling out illumis needle ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
headcanons/theories: i think we should find a way to synthesize both the fantheory that gon was born as some . homunculus thing from the greed island pregnancy stone and the one that pariston and ging fucked and pariston is gon’s other parent for the most distressing gon origin story
unpopular opinion: i know i have some but i don’t remember atm i’ve already rambled way too much rn
how’d you find it: i literally don’t remember i gotta think about this tbh i’ve been into hxh since i was like 14?? like yeah everyone whos ever been into anime has at least heard of hxh in passing but i feel like there wass some specific prompting for me getting into it that i can’t remember anymore. almost don’t want to remember because theres a high chance it was bc of some people i get sad thinking about now but out of all the people i was around back then fortunately i think it seems most likely i got into it bc of one of the few people i still care for among the people i hung out around as a young teen
random thoughts: i’m a fake fan i’m still not caught up with the manga i love it so much but i’ve barely read any manga i care about these past couple years i just know what people are talking about through osmosis nowadays i REALLY wanna legit catch up !!!!!
fma
haven’t heard of it | absolutely never watching| might watch | currently watching| dropped| hated it | meh| a positive okay| liked it| liked it a lot!| loved it| a favorite
don’t watch period| drop if not interested within 2-3 episodes| give it a go, could be your thing| 5 star recommendation
my bolds make no sense on this one and thats because i’m a fake!!!!! i was absolutely obsessed with fmab as a tween and watched almost all of it but then netflix didnt have the last season and that was when i was dumb and the only thing i ever pirated was glee on megavideo so me and my brother watched the last season by recording it when it was airing on adult swim and i know i got so close to the end but like somewhere towards the last few episodes i’m assuming (??) my brother watched it when i wasn’t home and then my parents deleted the recording before i could watch it and then i just???????? never watched it??????
so tl;dr i watched the vast majority of fmab (and started the manga) as a tween but like. never finished it and i was in love with it then but its been so long now i don’t trust my opinions to be very accurate about it.
i really really want to actually finish it some day!!! but at this point i feel like i should just restart so thats why i keep putting it off bc thats gonna take some dedication when i barely finish shorter things even anymore
so. disclaimer the following is very much filtered through me as a 13 year old and my memories from that plus how friends who love it have influenced me since fdjkghdfkj
fav characters: back then al was my favorite character and i had a crush on izumi curtis dkfjghkdf and then i always loved scar but now i feel he’d def be my fav
least fav characters: i had dumb opinions about this back then i’m sure. i think now i’d probably dislike roy even tho i used to like him. i dont remember enough to say more
fav relationship: i wasn’t big on ships watching it as a kid but i appreciated winry and ed idk. in retrospect and from fanwork friends share i think ed and ling seems like a lot of fun?? oh wait who was that one other mechanic girl i think i shipped her with winry very casually back then??? (edit: ig she wasnt a mechanic i got confused bc she showed winry who made her automail but i meant paninya!!!) but in retrospect i stayed away from fanworks bc they made me uncomfortable with all the gross shit but i didn’t think i was justified in feeling like that :(
fav moment: back then i thought the reveal of some of the people who ended up being homunculuses was so Epic but idk now
headcanons/theories: idk enough!!!!
unpopular opinion: idk probably like ……. going in being conscious of imperialism stuff now i’m sure i’ll have more contrary opinions than i used to but idk enough yet
how’d you find it: i literally just was going through netflix like ‘oh this is a popular anime’ and put it on on a whim
random thoughts: this whole ask took me so long to answer why am i so rambly djfkghjkdfgh also god. my terrible pattern of never finishing media for the smallest of reasons. one day i will actually consume media that takes brain power to process again…… i mostly just read like. romance webcomics and fanfic nowadays rip
thank you for this!!!!
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Okay, I don’t want to come off as a dick, but I will be honest, I really don’t like EN VAs in general because some of them tend to get into too much drama, talk out of their asses when it comes to IPs they work with and kind of behave like they kin characters that they voice which seems extremely unprofessional and cringey to me (I’m not an English speaker, so it’s not like I dislike them because of this us talking the same language)
I don’t say this to be rude, but in the last 10 years or so I’ve seen too much drama in fandoms that have something to do with English VAs (even when english VAs are the original VAs). I feel strange when some VAs basically try to adopt the personality of the character they voice, it seems so strange and childish? Like, my problem with a lot of those people is the fact that they don’t behave professionally. They talk in character when asked (outside of their job, I mean), which is, you know, I find questionable, they talk about characters as if they know better and rarely state “that’s just my head canon and it should be treated as such, I’m not a writer” and because of that some people stars to treat their opinions as canon (for some reason).
I don’t know how to explain it, really. I have no probs with English VAs who don’t interact with fandoms much and who treat their voice acting, as, you know, their job and are professional about it. I understand it if you are super excited about voicing a character in the big IP, but sometimes those VAs just go too far.
I still can’t get over the fact that because of Paimon’s VAs stupid remark there was (and still is) a witch-hunt for every person who draws Traveller ships. I’ve seen people being told to k*ll themselves because of this stupid misinformation so many times that it’s exhausting. I can’t imagine what artists/writers feel like when they are threatened or insulted for drawing sometimes even the fluffiest, the least problematic things ever.
I don’t know anything about cringe culture or whatever the fuck it’s called, but some English vas need to grow the fuck up and start to treat their work as work, not as a kinning opportunity.
Also, I feel like some companies need to have a talk with their employees and to explain to them what to do and what NOT to do when they interact with customers. In the very end, VAs are considered the face of the company by some people (I personally strongly disagree, but who cares), and when someone represents you, you, as a big company, probably don’t want some f*ck up to represent you and then do something that makes YOU look bad.
The thing is, I know I can sound like an asshole, but I really don’t even hate English VAs. I’m 100% okay with the ones who are professional and don’t treat fandoms as their free tickets for power trips and/or opportunities to say whatever the fuck they want. It’s just that it feels like English VAs are the only ones that have those kind of problems. I’ve never heard about any kind of drama/problems with Chinese/Japanese/Korean VAs, and that’s why the English ones look so egregious (well, I am taking more about Asian vas in general, you know? I assume maybe they have stricter rules when it comes to talking about their work, which doesn’t seem to be the case with English actors)
My point being, it would be lovely if people on the English side of things… all things, really, would stop behaving horribly. You was presented with a fantastic opportunity and and it’s okay to be happy about it, but I beg of you, don’t fuck it up for the rest of us just because you feel like you was granted a small amount of power.
Yeah I dont know enough VAs EN or otherwise to know how they act generally but if that is how it is... that would be annoying. On one hand I always thought it was a little bit cute when you could tell an actor/VA really loves the character theyre portraying but to try to dish your headcanon as absolute fact is pretty shitty.
Im surprised the EN VAs get as much leeway as they do... especially in Genshin since the translations have been off quite a few times.
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3 for the unusualish asks💞
Oh I will girl ( you should have NOT give me that number right after the bold type season finale)
I cannot rant about Taylor bc everythings good and I’m living for that so lets just go with my favourite show and how fucked up everything is, I am usually not someone who voices their opinion too much especially on here bc thats just not the type of person I am but anyway
The Bold Type has been my favourite tv show and if you have never seen it I still recommend you do bc overall its still a damn good show dont get me wrong if it does not seem like that (there are several reasons to watch it and I want it to become more popular so pls do)
Well, I started watching it right at the beginning, June/July last year when the first episode aired and BOI it blew me away, like, i did not expect anything major BUT lemme just say it destroys every other show its just that good (I love the girls it focuses on individually and together, the boss is full perfection, the main ship (a bi girl of colour and a proud muslim lesbian) was breathtaking, the storylines were on point and emotional and it just idk maybe they set the bars too high)
So the second season started airing beginnign of june and you know, I WAS worried before that they could not keep up but I had SO MUCH faith (but it also seems like the writers were kind of replaced and man that shows) the first few episodes were fire alright which is even worse bc i had lost all my worries and knew I was gonna be fed the whole season but little did I know …
You know I really hate complaining too much about something about a tv show that is there to enjoy and make me happy so I’ll stop thinking about it after this post but I do get the frustration so much (but death threats and bashing the whole show is not helpful whoops I said it)
Just a few short notes on things that anger me a little (I’m probably forgetting thigns but anyway):
1. Jane (she is one of the three main girls) I really like(d) Jane a lot and I feel like I can identify with her, we are very much alike in many ways and this especially showed in season 1. I dont “hate” her at all after this season, not even dislike her, but she they used her for almost all (?) the controversial topics as the one who makes rude and subtle offensive comments, which is not bad in itself bc she learned from it mostly all the time and apologizes but it was just too often and much for me. in the first season Jane seemed at least trying to be more understanding even when she could not really and she was relatable with her concerns and her feelings and this was not really the case for me this season. I felt like she did not own up enough for some mistakes and it did not give me this tbt feeling of happiness and goodness and wholesomeness I had after every damn episode last season????
2. Screen Time (Jacqueline/Alex/Adena) You could probably talk about everyone of them in detail now but I dont have the energy - let me just say Adena and Jacqueline are my favourite characters so maybe I am biased and I know that this whole post need to be edited probably after I rewatch the season bc I can easier give feedback when everything is fresh in my mind but you know, all we fans wanted was to have backstorys (and bc he didnt really get one either this probably applies to Oliver too) not even much, just maybe like the episode in season 1 when we got to learn more about Jacquelines family and her past in general (still crying), it was so well-written bc it was not just something thrown in there but integrated in the storyline, it had purpose, it was emotional, it gave insight into her character and I honestly saw her with different eyes after that (and loved her even more), now those 3 or 4 just are really pushed to the sides. You dont see Adena without Kat really or talking about her character without it being about her sexuality and Kat (oh hey a gay one complaining about that?? yes bc even tho I answer I am gay after someone asks me “how are you” theres more to a person and especially to someone as interesting as Adena. I love hearing non heteros talk about their love life and everything surrounding it but at least then let Adena talk about how her coming out was, what she finds interesting in other women, if she ever struggled with it (i know they tried to cover some things but naah idk i just expected more) or just talk about something else, let us see her going to the movies with friends, a childhood throwback when she was in art class, let her talk about what she likes about some types of art. AND HER WHOLE CULTURE? I am a white western woman and I never see muslim representation on tv and I feel like still havent? i forgot at some point?! there are so many non-white people watching it hoping to be represented and ofc you cannot please everyone but now it just feels like Adena is just a proud lesbian you know. And Alex? what who was that again?
3. the storylines - sooo first of all, I liked the storylines more than most people probably from what I have seen on the tag. I think some of them were hard to put in just one episode and try to talk about everything important and still have show going on, which is why it did not work all the time have less storylines but make them work would be better. I really did appreciate that they tried to have a lot of stuff covered and they tried to put different points in there but there were a lot of het relationship and other drama stuff to be shown so the storys were often pushed too hard to the sides. this I say having the gun episode in mind the most i felt really unsatisfied after it and I was really looking forward to it bc i think its important and brave for them to talk about it (anyway watch one day at a time, the episode on the same matter is pure gold) . idk its alright its not the same feeling its less spectacular but I’ll stop whining about that now.
4. KADENA - I’ll try to be objective here , i do get that you cannot have a happy relationship without anything going on for 10 episodes (ok you can I would love that but maybe its less wise when it comes to viewers idk?? i stan unpopular shows so who am I to know) BUT come on, not like this?? they started of as PERFECT alright and then it all went downhill, you know cheating and stuff idk, I am not happy with it, could be more original, could be less meh but whatever I was like “ ok I’lll roll with it maybe its gonna bring a new light in this, let them grow, let them learn” but man idk. it was all a mess and once they made up and everything was fine (after 3 epsiodes of pure stress for my weak heart) after 5 minutes there was something new? almost any interaction was either them arguing or making up. I liekd their conversations mostly I really did but I was tired of drama all the time, after this season I’ll just say it: If they want to continue it like that until the end of season 3 I’d rather have them not together anymore. its no fun, its stress for them and even more for me and it would not seem realistic when they make them endgame at the very last minute (which I assume they will bc they promote it like that) without using multiple episodes and time passing to really let them grow in the relationship, without that it would just feel like one day after the finale of season 3 they would have somethng else coming up to fuck them up again. I was really baffled with the finale bc I WAS NOT expecting that they really wouldnt resolve it at all let us suffer like this (I remember that Nikohl i think said that it would be like that but someone else also said recently that it really feels like a finale and that the fans would feel assured but excited for the next season but excuse me? tbt fans who are happy about that end are great. would love to meet one one day. but where they at?? suttard fans all 3 of you I am happy for you honestly. and for sutton. richard idc. i am bitter tho.
I STILL HAVE SO MUCH HOPE FOR SEASON 3 (pls let the old writers come back, listen to the fans, there are not too many instead of trying to make it more appealing to the general public what about pleasing us again with friendship, gayness, depth and happiness?)
(& remember: I.love.this.show. i do. I would recommend it even when there would only be season 2. but it would not be my fave anymore. its like as if taylor would have the same albums with the same music, same career, same backstory BUT her not really caring about her fans. I would still love her as an artist so freaking much. but would I jump off building for her?? naah maybe if there were a balcony and a pool who knows
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what’s your opinion on k/l? 👀
HAHAHA.... you know what let’s leave specific actions taken by this fandom out of this 100% because i still have plenty to say
it makes sense that people ship it. like i get it. i get it. it was COMPLETELY inevitable that people were going to like it based on season 1 because they actually had a bit of an arc. rivals to friends [to lovers]. i get it. but it hasnt GONE ANYWHERE since then and tbh has gotten more and more unlikable for me. this is a keith blog, i’m very protective and strong-willed about keith because i really deeply relate, but you know why ive had distaste for k/l from day one? because i’ve been lance.
i know the feeling that someone is one-upping you and hurting you just by existing and having talent INTIMATELY and yes, it feels awful, but more importantly, treating someone that way is awful. i have made that mistake. i’m not going to do it again. i understand that people who relate to lance’s insecurities would then enjoy the fantasy of the person they’re jealous of falling in love with them and telling them they’re worthwhile. i get it!!! but because of my experience of being a lance, and letting my bad feelings about myself hurt others, i’m not comfortable with that fantasy. i know it doesn’t work out cleanly. it burdens the other person and makes them feel guilty for being skilled or being happy or having other friends. you don’t have to be intentionally tearing someone down to create an atmosphere that makes them feel bad. keith doesn’t deserve that.
lance puts keith on a pedestal and then thinks that pedestal means keith is up so high that lance can’t possibly hurt him, so lance gets to belittle him as a hothead, claim he’s lying in order to steal the leadership position, etc etc and assume this magically won’t affect keith’s feelings because keith is Better Than Him. keith doesn’t HAVE feelings, to him. he refused to accept the idea of keith not being an unattainable immovable jackass from the beginning, by rejecting the Bonding Moment, trying to ‘win’ over keith by being the less vulnerable one, which-- given that actually, keith is awkward and lonely as hell-- is super harmful and basically has ruined his chances!! they could be actual friends by now if lance hadn’t done that!
maybe it’s cynical of me to feel like it would go badly but that’s just how it is. i’ve disliked plenty of popular ships for this exact reason: some people love it because one character is relatable and they fantasize about the other character healing their wounds; i’m uncomfortable because i’ve had relationships that seemed that way at the start and then just mutually went to hell. even in my kindest possible reading of k/l given their personal issues, i still feel like it would be awkward and fall into a lot of fights and either end quickly or limp along miserably for about a year.
they don’t have the tools to help each other. keith’s “pep talk” to lance just accidentally invalidates him more, which keith doesn’t notice, and keith completely fails to follow his own advice, which lance is unsympathetic about. i think they have similar insecurities but different ways of dealing with them-- lance tries to compensate, keith shuts down. i’ve dealt with ‘different ways of dealing’ conflicts way too much in my own relationships to feel like this is a fun happy ship and there isn’t enough meat to it in canon for me to enjoy the potential angst. they’re barely even friends and in a relationship would have massive difficulty providing what the other needs and canon hasn’t given much of anything to prove me wrong about that feeling.
in my other keith ships, there’s clear precedent for it being natural and mutual to meet each other’s emotional needs. they’re on the same wavelength. giving keith advice reminds them to be kinder to themselves, and keith finds it easy and logical to assuage their worries, without getting nervous about Performing Social Things Correctly. it’s not bad by any means for a relationship to have misunderstandings and require work-- that’s just life. but i don’t feel any desire to settle for a relationship that would have to do, to me, a ridiculous amount of unpacking and communicating that i dont think keith and lance are anywhere near emotionally mature enough for before it could be smooth sailing. like just everything else aside, on a character writing level, they Do Not Match and i’ve never cared for it and i never will
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