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the way these two could’ve understood each other like no one else. the way armand basically destroyed the mirror image of himself
#sorry about my bad pics dhjk#the way even lestat#who has every right to hate him for that#can’t fully blame him.#claudia had to suffer the consequences of someone else's actions done before she was even born#she had no chance man doomed from the start#the way marius basically calls armand his mistake/his penance#and lestat says he could never regret claudia. evil of his evil#god im going insane#heli reads tvl#the vampire lestat#armand#claudia
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I feel like many people have a fundamental misconception of what unreliable narrator means. It's simply a narrative vehicle not a character flaw or a sign that the character is a bad person. There are also many different types of unreliable narrators in fiction. Being an unreliable narrator doesn't necessarily mean that the character is 'wrong', it definitely doesn't mean that they're wrong about everything even if some aspects in their story are inaccurate, and only some unreliable narrators actively and consciously lie. Stories that have unreliable narrators also tend to deal with perception and memory and they often don't even have one objective truth, just different versions. It reflects real life where we know human memory is highly unreliable and vague and people can interpret same events very differently
#the way some people (usually lestat fans lol) talk about louis being an unreliable narrator has frustrated me#i still insist louis' unreliableness is mostly subtle (passing quickly over things he doesn't want to think about#presenting things that factually happened in a way he can build a story that makes sense to him#not knowing what lestat is thinking and feeling so interpreting him differently than lestat himself probably would)#rather than he's telling something that didn't really happen or is under armand's mind control or something#like for example i think it's been made very clear all the abuse really happened they're not gonna suddenly pull the rug from under it#if anything i feel lestat is going to turn out to be even worse than louis perceived him when we hear people who are not in love w him lol#keanu.txt
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don’t get how you can watch iwtv and be a sincere diehard lestat hater. like the world’s biggest lestat hater is louis and that man can’t even commit to it for more than five minutes before literally hallucinating lestat wearing a wedding ring and talking pretty to him. this show is about louis and every road leads back to lestat for that man
#nobody hates lestat like the men who have brain rot about him#like that’s Claudia’s mother their whole thing is far too messy to be reduced to hate#like sorry that was her mumdadbastardparent. too complicated to get it sorted out right#madeleine didn’t even know him#daniel doesn’t know him (yet)#santiago will bend over for any vampire with more power than him unless they don’t like him#(then he’ll seethe while imagining getting fucked) so in another life he’d dickride lestat or seethe at him and louis hardcore#uhhh. who else knows this bitch. his momma dipped she got her own shit going on she don’t really think about him#maybe Louis’ family are bigger lestat haters but they’re all dead#armand hates him but that’s entirely dwarfed by the sex thing and also he’s way more obsessed with daniel. lestat is not touching that thing#so yeah it’s just louis who knows him deep enough to be a true pure hater#and louis loves him so so so much. so it’s kinda over this show is literally about these two#attacking each other and then holding hands. or punishing the other for 77 years#so. yay!!!#this is not the show for you louis gets the mic for like five minutes n he’s immediately going ‘so there’s this blond-’#like we all didn’t know. get off the stage!!!!!! silence on the blond guy. but alas. louis has the mic still so it’s blond guy central#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#iwtv#interview with the vampire
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something i thought would be interesting... the 'lestat call' from 2.05 but with the main audio channel isolated so you can't hear lestat's voice. so what it was like from louis' POV really
#personally i think they should've gone for something like this because armand was the only one who could hear him#& he's not involved in telling the story#i get it's for the audience but it feels a little more effective maybe not exactly knowing what armand wouldn't/couldn't repeat#that's just my opinion though and maybe it's influenced by already knowing what lestat is saying#but being able to guess (the way i assume louis knew too even if he couldn't hear it)#iwtv#interview with the vampire#armand#louis de pointe du lac
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“I was the leader of my coven!” “No. You were the slave of Marius and then of the Children of Darkness. You fell under the spell of one and then the other. What you suffer now is the absence of a spell. I think I shudder that you caused me so to understand it for a little while, to know it as if I were a different being than I am.” “Doesn’t matter,” he said, eyes still on the fire. “You think too much in terms of decision and action. This tale is no explanation. And I am not a being who requires a respectful acknowledgment in your thoughts or in words. And we all know the answer you have given is too immense to be voiced and we all three of us know that it is final. What I don’t know is why. So I am a creature very different from you, and so you cannot understand me. Why can’t I go with you? I will do whatever you wish if you take me with you. I will be under your spell.” —THE VAMPIRE LESTAT
#iwtvedit#iwtv#interview with the vampire#lesmand#armand#lestat de lioncourt#tvc#the vampire chronicles#the vampire lestat#this whole section of the book made me INSANE but this part in particular#lestat can't bear to see the world the way armand does even for a few moments#armand doesn't care if lestat can't extend him any empathy he's just desperate not to be alone
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Horrific psychological abuse and lynching plot aside, Armand was just not a nice partner to Louis. Always interrupting him, extremely dismissive of Louis’s concerns, super mean about his photography to the point where Louis became extremely insecure about in the span of 2 episodes, super insistent on a serious relationship when that's not what Louis wanted or something that was even feasible for the two of them since Armand slept on the floor with 16 racist roommates who hated Louis bad, mean as hell to his daughter, always made things about himself, stopped Louis from going to Rogets and gwtting his husbands money but had no money of his own, made shitty plays and made louis go see them, like the list is endless.
#iwtv louis#interview with the vampire#iwtv#amc iwtv#louis de pointe du lac#iwtv 2022#ldpdl#armand iwtv#the vampire armand#and this is not to hype up loustat they have their own problems im just confronted with how bad armand is#like omg hes literally the worst bf#broke controlling and a bitch ass nigga like omg pick a struggle tyler perry#just a loser ong#and everything has to be about him i dont even think he thinks Louis’s a person#louis is like an accessory to him. a way to enrich himself but he doesnt actually care about louis if he did hed back the fuck up#assad said something similar at sdcc where he was like armands only focus was armand and he views louis as a way to enrich himself#not as a person. armand makes everything in the relationship about him bc hes ext. self centered and doesnt like negros#which is why he doesnt see louis as a person and hes ok with lynching him#at least lestat met his parents before trying to marry him all armand had was i havent turned you into the police you should move in with me#a man who cant stay the night because he. a 450+ year old man. has a curfew and his 16 roommates will get mad if hes late
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Lestat, struggling to ask Louis about September 8th.
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE S02E08 - “AND THAT’S THE END OF IT. THERE’S NOTHING ELSE”
#Interview with the Vampire#IWTV#iwtvedit#iwtvsource#Lestat de Lioncourt#tvedit#tvgifs#filmtvcentral#filmtvdaily#filmtvedit#cinemapix#mine*#mygifs#iwtvmine#IWTV 2#you really don't know. you just can't even begin to imagine how feral this makes me feel. because he could have asked ANYTHING#it's been DECADES since that night and he could have asked anything else. but no. he had to ask if he had hurt himself#he hadn't known PEACE since the moment Armand called him. and yet... the moment he CAN ask Louis about it? HE STILL STRUGGLES#the way he avoids his eyes. that bit right there. AHHHHHHHHHH. I want to scream!#also. I wish I could say I can officially move on from giffing this scene but I'm not sure. it's just so great to color#(it's always been the same coloring but it still amazes me how happy I am with it hahahaha)
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#iwtvedit#interview with the vampire#iwtv spoilers#lestat de lioncourt#armand#my edits#the way i want to wring armands neck u dont even know
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The status I enjoyed in Storyville did not extend itself to the operators and patrons of the French Opera House on Bourbon and Toulouse. We did what we always did to avoid conflicts there. I performed as his valet, walked a pace behind him, took his overcoat once we found our seats, remained standing in the back of the box until the lights went down, and only joined next to him once the overture had begun.
#Interview with the Vampire#amc iwtv#iwtvedit#Louis de Pointe du Lac#Lestat de Lioncourt#loustat#OTP: I didn't realize it was a gift#filmtvdaily#filmtvsource#filmtvtoday#userbbelcher#cinemapix#userdosa#userveronika#userentertainments#tvarchive#smallscreensource#usertelevision#tvgifs#Rachel's edit tag#lestat's face journey. insert what if we all ****** ourselves meme#head in hands. lestat said this bc he was trying to apologize. he saw how upset louis was and this was his way of saying sorry.#and it's also why he took the tenor's bad performance so personally. lestat feels like he already fucked up this date#so the tenor's performance is just ruining the night even more#and then louis understandably viewing this as lestat being manipulative in retrospect....... im so sick I can't do this
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I will say: it is a testament to Delainey Hayles, the show writers, the other actors, and even the original book itself, that Claudia's death was THIS gutwrenching for us all, despite having originally being written & published almost 50 years ago.
Like, I knew this was coming. I first the read the book twenty years ago. I've seen the film adaptation. Lots of people who watch the show have. And yet it feels like we're all still in collective mourning all the same, and that's powerful.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#delainey hayles#claudia de pointe du lac#claudia de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#spoilers#i've seen red wedding comparisons#but even that doesn't feel like a close fit#I think more people have read IWTV than A Storm of Swords#or at least seen the film#so this was already in the public consciousness in a bigger way before this episode aired
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i know we talk about chuck chair armand but have we ever talked about daniel not really being that into it? like all daniel wants is armand and yet he sleeps with these people armand brings back and why? if he doesn't enjoy it, why do it? i think daniel sleeps with these people to please armand because he believes that it's what armand wants but what armand wants is daniel. i think, in some sick twisted way, armand is echoing his relationship with marius.
#dont give me that bs of vamps not being able to have sex in tvc#armand and daniel both have hands and a mouth#nobody is having any fun sleeping with these people#i know marius pimping armand out like in the show isn't technically stated in the books#BUT combining the knowledge i have of tvc with what they gave us with marius in the show#it isn't out of character for marius to do that to armand in the books#marius has always been a looming shadow over armand's relationships#with lestat and daniel and even with show louis in particular#woah im getting WAY off track#anyways would love to see other people think#devil's minion#daniel molloy#armand#interview with the vampire#amc iwtv#iwtv#*mine
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saying louis could never forgive armand for claudia is fair and valid and true. saying lestat could never forgive him is crazy and shows a complete misunderstanding of those two’s relationship. did you see how casually they had that vampire phone call in san fransisco? how easily and naturally lestat responded to armand’s call? as if no time at all had passed between them? as if they kept in touch regularly?
#they're like siblings#but only in the way where they can do the worst things to each other and still forgive each other#even their hatred has no true vitriol behind it#it's a shallow kind of hatred#one that is easily replaced with something else#lesmand#armandstat#iwtv#lestat de lioncourt#armand
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It’s not that Louis doesn’t have at least some amount of a natural dominant side tbh I think it’s that his natural dominant style is both not necessarily that aggressively forceful and is also wayyyy more predisposed to dealing with brattiness. And then Armand is making big wet eyes going “of course maitre whatever you say maitre I would never disobey you maitre” and Louis is like ://// (but also ofc would never attempt to communicate this bc god forbid)
#meanwhile armand CAN brat and I would argue it’s in some ways even his most natural hidden form#but it’s been 500 years of trauma#I think only Daniel would really manage to get him back there bc of how their relationship changes Armand’s perspective on his own agency#rip to Lestat realizing Louis is now so much more prepared for brat taming.#think he might die of sheer horniness honestly#louis de pointe du lac#armand#loustat#devil's minion#(for the tags)#loumand
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I’m sorry but I need Armand’s perspective on what the fuck happened in that apartment. There’s just too much shit that does not add up without it.
#Armand#the vampire armand#daniel molloy#luke brandon field#eric bogosian#louis de pointe du lac#iwtv#Jacob Anderson#assad zaman#iwtv s2#iwtv spoilers#like I have so many more questions now#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#amc iwtv#iwtv season 2#devil’s minion#armandaniel#sam reid#like the words of that guy who set himself on fire were Armand’s#Armand’s fond looks of him in the present day#I also don’t believe Louis was just sitting there and being like that#not even in an I think Armand is above torturing Daniel way#he’s absolutely not#but there is something wrong there#and the you should fear the other one is so 😶😶
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The camera slowly panning to Lestat when Louis says "if you were the last vampire on earth, it would be enough" does NOT mean he's talking to Lestat, instead of Claudia
He IS talking to Claudia. and that makes it so much sadder because he beleives it when he tells her. and he WANTS it to be true so so bad. The camera panning to Lestat shows that it will never be true. No matter how much he or Claudia wants it to be true, Lestat will always be there, if not in body then in Louis' mind. And if not Lestat then someone else (read: Armand).
And the worst part? Claudia definitely knows this. That's why she didn't say anything. That's why she looked away. Because as he said that, Lestat was present in his mind. And Claudia most definitely could sense it bc Louis is shit at blocking his thoughts.
#i'm sick#Claudia you mean the whole universe to me#Also Louis would never talk to Lestat right in front of her face??#She knows Louis sees him because she can read his mind#but directing letting Claudia see how guilty he is?#not even about not burning Lestat but about trying to kill him?#oh he would never#he already knows she hates him for that first thing. no way would he make her directly aware of the second#she def knows tho#iwtv#amc iwtv#iwtv amc#interview with the vampire#amc interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl#lestat de lioncunt#claudia#iwtv claudia#claudia de pointe du lac#claudia de lioncourt#loustat#starregulus
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Honestly upon pilot rewatch no. 638382 I feel like Lestat’s dinner outburst was entirely justified and reveals more about the pointe du lc family than it does him. Yes I’m curious as to what he said to Paul telepathically but based on what he said out loud he just sounded very reasonably triggered by Paul’s very intentional targeting. I think the pointe du lac family mainly bc of Florence over values prestige and the performance of it. There’s no room for emotionality and lestat’s very honest reveal of his own trauma may have been a hair too real for the de pointe du lacs. I think he loses their favor not because of his temper but because he seems erratic and baggage heavy in relation to the performance they’ve committed to. I feel like that’s partially why Lestat and Louis work so well. For better or for worse they give each other space for these big emotions to come out
#also likely why Louis may have been initially drawn to Armand but their relationship falls apart even after reconciling initially#Armand performance stoic elegance in a way Florence would’ve eaten up and there’s no way that doesn’t disturb Louis at least a little#but we’re all drawn to the familiar hm#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#interview with the vampire#rewatch thoughts
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