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the way these two could’ve understood each other like no one else. the way armand basically destroyed the mirror image of himself
#sorry about my bad pics dhjk#the way even lestat#who has every right to hate him for that#can’t fully blame him.#claudia had to suffer the consequences of someone else's actions done before she was even born#she had no chance man doomed from the start#the way marius basically calls armand his mistake/his penance#and lestat says he could never regret claudia. evil of his evil#god im going insane#heli reads tvl#the vampire lestat#armand#claudia
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I feel like many people have a fundamental misconception of what unreliable narrator means. It's simply a narrative vehicle not a character flaw or a sign that the character is a bad person. There are also many different types of unreliable narrators in fiction. Being an unreliable narrator doesn't necessarily mean that the character is 'wrong', it definitely doesn't mean that they're wrong about everything even if some aspects in their story are inaccurate, and only some unreliable narrators actively and consciously lie. Stories that have unreliable narrators also tend to deal with perception and memory and they often don't even have one objective truth, just different versions. It reflects real life where we know human memory is highly unreliable and vague and people can interpret same events very differently
#the way some people (usually lestat fans lol) talk about louis being an unreliable narrator has frustrated me#i still insist louis' unreliableness is mostly subtle (passing quickly over things he doesn't want to think about#presenting things that factually happened in a way he can build a story that makes sense to him#not knowing what lestat is thinking and feeling so interpreting him differently than lestat himself probably would)#rather than he's telling something that didn't really happen or is under armand's mind control or something#like for example i think it's been made very clear all the abuse really happened they're not gonna suddenly pull the rug from under it#if anything i feel lestat is going to turn out to be even worse than louis perceived him when we hear people who are not in love w him lol#keanu.txt
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The thing for me is that Marius won’t let Armand have anything. Oh, Riccardo is your best friend? Let me whip him in front of you. Oh, you’re having an affair with someone other than me? Let me shun you and shame you for it. Oh, you met Lestat and he permanently changed who you are as a person and how you see the world? Yeah, he’s daddy’s favorite princess now. Oh you made your first fledgling? I think I’ll keep him for 50 years. Oh, you finally formed a meaningful and loving relationship with two humans and succeeded in not turning them into vampires? Well you see….
UGGGHHGGGGGGHH!1!!1!1!11!!!!
#obviously all these characters have their own agency and autonomy#this is just a rant post and not meant to be taken too seriously#unless#the vampire chronicles#interview with the vampire#armand#tvc#iwtv spoilers#interview with the vampire spoilers#armand iwtv#Anne rice#book spoilers#not even gonna tag the mf cause I’m not trying to get his groupies in my inbox#shitpost#i am foaming at the mouth#and not in a sexy way#the vampire Armand#the vampire Lestat
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don’t get how you can watch iwtv and be a sincere diehard lestat hater. like the world’s biggest lestat hater is louis and that man can’t even commit to it for more than five minutes before literally hallucinating lestat wearing a wedding ring and talking pretty to him. this show is about louis and every road leads back to lestat for that man
#nobody hates lestat like the men who have brain rot about him#like that’s Claudia’s mother their whole thing is far too messy to be reduced to hate#like sorry that was her mumdadbastardparent. too complicated to get it sorted out right#madeleine didn’t even know him#daniel doesn’t know him (yet)#santiago will bend over for any vampire with more power than him unless they don’t like him#(then he’ll seethe while imagining getting fucked) so in another life he’d dickride lestat or seethe at him and louis hardcore#uhhh. who else knows this bitch. his momma dipped she got her own shit going on she don’t really think about him#maybe Louis’ family are bigger lestat haters but they’re all dead#armand hates him but that’s entirely dwarfed by the sex thing and also he’s way more obsessed with daniel. lestat is not touching that thing#so yeah it’s just louis who knows him deep enough to be a true pure hater#and louis loves him so so so much. so it’s kinda over this show is literally about these two#attacking each other and then holding hands. or punishing the other for 77 years#so. yay!!!#this is not the show for you louis gets the mic for like five minutes n he’s immediately going ‘so there’s this blond-’#like we all didn’t know. get off the stage!!!!!! silence on the blond guy. but alas. louis has the mic still so it’s blond guy central#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl#lestat de lioncourt#loustat#iwtv#interview with the vampire
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something i thought would be interesting... the 'lestat call' from 2.05 but with the main audio channel isolated so you can't hear lestat's voice. so what it was like from louis' POV really
#personally i think they should've gone for something like this because armand was the only one who could hear him#& he's not involved in telling the story#i get it's for the audience but it feels a little more effective maybe not exactly knowing what armand wouldn't/couldn't repeat#that's just my opinion though and maybe it's influenced by already knowing what lestat is saying#but being able to guess (the way i assume louis knew too even if he couldn't hear it)#iwtv#interview with the vampire#armand#louis de pointe du lac
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“I was the leader of my coven!” “No. You were the slave of Marius and then of the Children of Darkness. You fell under the spell of one and then the other. What you suffer now is the absence of a spell. I think I shudder that you caused me so to understand it for a little while, to know it as if I were a different being than I am.” “Doesn’t matter,” he said, eyes still on the fire. “You think too much in terms of decision and action. This tale is no explanation. And I am not a being who requires a respectful acknowledgment in your thoughts or in words. And we all know the answer you have given is too immense to be voiced and we all three of us know that it is final. What I don’t know is why. So I am a creature very different from you, and so you cannot understand me. Why can’t I go with you? I will do whatever you wish if you take me with you. I will be under your spell.” —THE VAMPIRE LESTAT
#iwtvedit#iwtv#interview with the vampire#lesmand#armand#lestat de lioncourt#tvc#the vampire chronicles#the vampire lestat#this whole section of the book made me INSANE but this part in particular#lestat can't bear to see the world the way armand does even for a few moments#armand doesn't care if lestat can't extend him any empathy he's just desperate not to be alone
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#and it goes both ways#even better#amc iwtv#interview with the vampire#iwtv#loustat#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac
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Lestat, struggling to ask Louis about September 8th.
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE S02E08 - “AND THAT’S THE END OF IT. THERE’S NOTHING ELSE”
#Interview with the Vampire#IWTV#iwtvedit#iwtvsource#Lestat de Lioncourt#tvedit#tvgifs#filmtvcentral#filmtvdaily#filmtvedit#cinemapix#mine*#mygifs#iwtvmine#IWTV 2#you really don't know. you just can't even begin to imagine how feral this makes me feel. because he could have asked ANYTHING#it's been DECADES since that night and he could have asked anything else. but no. he had to ask if he had hurt himself#he hadn't known PEACE since the moment Armand called him. and yet... the moment he CAN ask Louis about it? HE STILL STRUGGLES#the way he avoids his eyes. that bit right there. AHHHHHHHHHH. I want to scream!#also. I wish I could say I can officially move on from giffing this scene but I'm not sure. it's just so great to color#(it's always been the same coloring but it still amazes me how happy I am with it hahahaha)
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#iwtvedit#interview with the vampire#iwtv spoilers#lestat de lioncourt#armand#my edits#the way i want to wring armands neck u dont even know
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The status I enjoyed in Storyville did not extend itself to the operators and patrons of the French Opera House on Bourbon and Toulouse. We did what we always did to avoid conflicts there. I performed as his valet, walked a pace behind him, took his overcoat once we found our seats, remained standing in the back of the box until the lights went down, and only joined next to him once the overture had begun.
#Interview with the Vampire#amc iwtv#iwtvedit#Louis de Pointe du Lac#Lestat de Lioncourt#loustat#OTP: I didn't realize it was a gift#filmtvdaily#filmtvsource#filmtvtoday#userbbelcher#cinemapix#userdosa#userveronika#userentertainments#tvarchive#smallscreensource#usertelevision#tvgifs#Rachel's edit tag#lestat's face journey. insert what if we all ****** ourselves meme#head in hands. lestat said this bc he was trying to apologize. he saw how upset louis was and this was his way of saying sorry.#and it's also why he took the tenor's bad performance so personally. lestat feels like he already fucked up this date#so the tenor's performance is just ruining the night even more#and then louis understandably viewing this as lestat being manipulative in retrospect....... im so sick I can't do this
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I will say: it is a testament to Delainey Hayles, the show writers, the other actors, and even the original book itself, that Claudia's death was THIS gutwrenching for us all, despite having originally being written & published almost 50 years ago.
Like, I knew this was coming. I first the read the book twenty years ago. I've seen the film adaptation. Lots of people who watch the show have. And yet it feels like we're all still in collective mourning all the same, and that's powerful.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#delainey hayles#claudia de pointe du lac#claudia de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#spoilers#i've seen red wedding comparisons#but even that doesn't feel like a close fit#I think more people have read IWTV than A Storm of Swords#or at least seen the film#so this was already in the public consciousness in a bigger way before this episode aired
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i've mentioned this before but louis and armand's relationship in paris after the trial is so hollow, and at the beginning of their story they had so much chemistry, so much respect for each other, they were having philosophical conversations and romantic walks, they had so much potential. and you can tell it's gone a bit wayward even before the trial, with how louis removes himself emotionally from their relationship, but the trial really yanks the rug out from under them and shows just how Nothing their bond has become.
and i think it's best exemplified by louis warning armand about his plans to burn the theatre and everyone in it. because i can't read that as anything other than, like, the internet joke about a school shooter warning the only person who was nice to him to stay home from school tomorrow. all that potential, all that loneliness, all that they tried at first to confide in each other and heal the heartbreak they both sustained from lestat, and by the end it's as if they're acquaintances, who only know each other just well enough for louis to refrain from killing armand alongside the rest of the coven.
#loumand#<-sure why not. i feel like people who like loumand (like me) can handle this post cksjxjfj#louis de pointe du lac#armand iwtv#armandposting#iwtv#iwtv meta#iwtv amc#interview with the vampire#thunder rambles#and then we have to consider. would louis have warned armand if armand hadnt lied about saving louis at the trial.#lets be clear i think armand knew what louis' plans were and when he intended to carry them out. so armand wouldve escaped either way#it truly is louis' feelings abt the situation that matter here. bcuz it's that plus armand telling him where lestat is + intending to help#louis kill him even though he's said it's a lost cause that makes louis choose armand in the end.#but uhh. if armand hadnt lied. im not sure they wouldve ever spoken again. crazy stuff huh
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I’m an Armand girlie. I can’t help but adore this absolute psycho, his baby deer eyes, sad backstory and unhinged demeanor have bewitched me
BUT, Louis du Pointe du Lac in the last scene, wearing a colorful cardigan, having and brand new cozy yellow couch and pretty house plants? After wearing black clothes and walking around that awfully sterile penthouse for 2 seasons?
Baby boy is healing and it warms my heart 🥹
#ldpdl said new year new me and honestly good for you sweetie#he got his post divorce glow#may I remind you that louis has always been a fashionista#he’s the one who took lestat shopping when they met and even when he burned down the theatre he was wearing that gorgeous trench coat#slaying in every possible way#iwtv#amc iwtv#interview with the vampire#louis de pointe du lac
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i know we talk about chuck chair armand but have we ever talked about daniel not really being that into it? like all daniel wants is armand and yet he sleeps with these people armand brings back and why? if he doesn't enjoy it, why do it? i think daniel sleeps with these people to please armand because he believes that it's what armand wants but what armand wants is daniel. i think, in some sick twisted way, armand is echoing his relationship with marius.
#dont give me that bs of vamps not being able to have sex in tvc#armand and daniel both have hands and a mouth#nobody is having any fun sleeping with these people#i know marius pimping armand out like in the show isn't technically stated in the books#BUT combining the knowledge i have of tvc with what they gave us with marius in the show#it isn't out of character for marius to do that to armand in the books#marius has always been a looming shadow over armand's relationships#with lestat and daniel and even with show louis in particular#woah im getting WAY off track#anyways would love to see other people think#devil's minion#daniel molloy#armand#interview with the vampire#amc iwtv#iwtv#*mine
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Every time someone insists Armand could have just used his powers to kill the whole Paris coven instead of directing the trial execution, an angel loses its wings
#he doesn't even use his powers to light his goddamn cigarette until it's an act of submission#the only time he seems to genuinely enjoy his powers is when they make him desirable and interesting to Louis and Lestat#no one is more apathetic to Armand's powers than Armand#in fact he resents having such power because it's at odds with the way he sees himself as powerless#and he absolutely HATES that others see him as powerful and therefore responsible for his own actions#so yes. he COULD have. but he wouldn't.#interview with the vampire#iwtv#armand#the vampire armand#armand de learned helplessness#tbh I hate posting meta i will probably delete this
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saying louis could never forgive armand for claudia is fair and valid and true. saying lestat could never forgive him is crazy and shows a complete misunderstanding of those two’s relationship. did you see how casually they had that vampire phone call in san fransisco? how easily and naturally lestat responded to armand’s call? as if no time at all had passed between them? as if they kept in touch regularly?
#they're like siblings#but only in the way where they can do the worst things to each other and still forgive each other#even their hatred has no true vitriol behind it#it's a shallow kind of hatred#one that is easily replaced with something else#lesmand#armandstat#iwtv#lestat de lioncourt#armand
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