#the things i've seen in this fandom
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I joined the fandom shortly before ADWD came out, I do not remember the Victarion is Azor Ahai theory...
Then you're very lucky it never crossed your path. 😅
#winged-wolf-dreamer#the things i've seen in this fandom#the things that are still there on supposedly respected websites#god i've seen some shit#asoiaf#victarion greyjoy#main qualifications: has a burning arm; punched his wife to death#azor ahai#a dance with dragons#crack theories#oh fandom#abuse tw
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It's really not all that surprising that the Daycare Attendant ended up being so popular, to the point that there's a whole subsection of FNAF fandom that's p much just the DCA.
For starters, there's Security Breach itself. Security Breach is a vastly different FNAF game from its predecessors. Instead of being a jumpscare-driven task management simulator, it is a free-roam exploration and puzzle game, also with jumpscares. Instead of a security guard with their butt glued to their office chair, you're playing as a kid trapped in the mall. That difference in format and story setup attracted a whole new crowd of players to FNAF.
Next is character design. Unlike the majority of animatronics in the killer robot furry franchise, the DCA is a lanky, vaguely human shaped jester with a dinnerplate head and a creepy fixed smile. That appeals to folks who might not be as much into the robot furries, but like lanky creepy jesters (I am one of those people).
Security Breach also FINALLY develops the animatronics into actual characters, rather than interchangeable jumpscares. It's not a coincidence that prior to SB, the most popular animatronic was Springtrap-- an animatronic outright possessed by the defacto main antagonist of the series. I still remember the sheer fuzzy excitement upon hearing the first teaser trailer where we found out that we would be playing as a kid and that Freddy was our friend. That's still so cool! Freddy is our friend!
But character is where the Daycare Attendant really blows everyone else out of the water.
Sun is, after Freddy and Vanessa, the NPC with the most lines of dialogue (ten). Sun and Vanessa are the only antagonists that speak directly to Gregory, rather than just having vague hunting lines. For comparison, of the Glamrocks only Roxy has a single line of interaction with another animatronic ("Get out of my room, Freddy!") and her pep talk in the mirror at the start of the game. Monty and Chica might as well be interchangeable, both only having hunting lines.
Hell, out of Moon's nineteen voice lines, eight of them are laughs, blowing away Vanny's whopping two lines in the entire game.
Sun is the only* FNAF antagonist that does not have a jumpscare sting when he grabs Gregory, and is one of the few antagonists that does not kill the player upon jumpscaring them. Sun is outright non-hostile towards Gregory, coming off as overbearing but genuinely friendly. In a FNAF game.
Kellen Goff's phenomenal voice acting further fleshes out the DCA's character, giving us solid foundations for their personalities. Sun is anxious, friendly, and bossy. Moon is a downright giggle gremlin, sadistic and playful. Both of them are childish, and the contrast between their personalities and their job as child caretakers makes them stand out even more.
It's also worth mentioning that the Daycare is one of the earliest sections of the game, easily reached within the first thirty minutes of playtime. This makes it very likely to have been seen by people who either ended up not finishing the game itself, or any let's play series they were watching. It's also one of the most complete sections of the game, with clear, easy to understand mechanics and a decent challenge, making it more enjoyable to play than some of the later puzzles.
So, yeah. Why wouldn't there be a whole subsection of fandom built around some of the most well developed and interesting characters in the entire franchise, from an installment that attracted a new crowd of people who were probably already looking for something different from the traditional FNAF experience?


*As far as I know there are no other FNAF animatronics that perform a jumpscare animation without an accompanying sound, but it's not impossible that there's someone in UCN that I've overlooked.
#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#fnaf security breach#fnaf daycare attendant#I'm leaving out the more personal reasons I've seen listed such as “the autism vibes” and “I want to see that twink obliterated”#as well as how fans beget fans with their creations#because these things are relatively universal across fandoms
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How would Sun from your have you eaten au feel about hugs? He seems like he's so reserved and you mentioned that because he knows he's a robot he isn't very indulgent
But would he like hugs? Or could he warm up to them eventually?
(was chatting with @inkydoughnut the other day and i realized i never posted this comic woops 😂)
well well! Sun is no stranger to hugs! he doesn't usually initiate hugs, but he's used to receiving them from when he was a daycare attendant. he's never really learned when is a good time to pull back tho, so he often stays put until you pull back first:
Eclipse: Sun, we have dishes to wash.
Sun: You have 4 hands. And Moon.
#ask the crab#fnaf sun#fnaf eclipse#fnaf dca#dca fandom#Have You Eaten? AU#Sun Have You Eaten? AU#Eclipse Have You Eaten? AU#crab art#digital art#bright colours#i think he does like hugs though#it's one of those things where he only realizes he likes them in their absence#like if a customer were to hug Sun every day#if they suddenly stopped coming to the restaurant Sun would feel a little down#ough i can imagine the first time he got hugged by one of the kids at the daycare#he's seen kids hug Moon and Eclipse all the time#but the first time one hugs him#ough#he probably cherishes that memory#i've mentioned before physical touch isn't really how he communicates his care#but i think if he were in a relationship with someone who likes to hug and kiss him#he would try to take more initiative to reciprocate#“Do you like this?”#“Is this adequate?”#“I want to better understand what brings you joy.”#“Then perhaps I can better understand the effect you have on me.”
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one thing i think people miss about lake mungo is a thing people also miss about twin peaks, which is that you limit your understanding by only seeing yourself as the dead girl; sometimes you're one of the people who knew her
#the use of second person is a big choice in the previous (excellent) post and got me thinking about wider trends#it's really fascinating to now not only have the movie itself in conversation with twin peaks#but being able to see a collective of people who like the thing in conversation with the much larger tp fandom#i think in general it tends to be taken more seriously in its horror because it's explicitly marketed as such with fewer jokes#(and because it's a more 'niche' thing that hasn't been ground to death by the pop culture/social media machine)#so i've seen some really thoughtful analysis- but i've also seen some emotional pitfalls and missing the forest for the trees#retroactively tagging#lake mungo#twin peaks
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EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND READ THIS.
THE CURRENT VOTE COUNT IS NOT THE FINAL RESULT.
IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL DAYS TO COUNT ALL OF THE VOTES AND DETERMINE WHO WINS THE ELECTION (POSSIBLY MORE IF A RECOUNT IS NECESSARY).
IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE FINAL RESULTS WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THE INITIAL RESULTS.
STOP DOOMPOSTING AND LEARN HOW THIS SHIT WORKS.
#scary crane rambles#not fandom#let's get serious#us politics#american politics#us election#election night#election 2024#2024 election#kamala harris#donald trump#2024 presidential election#2024 presidential race#voting#us election 2024#it's also highly likely that trump is cheating to make it look like he's won#i've heard from several sources that he prevented certain journalists from accessing election data#most of which were left-leaning or liberal#and i dont think i've ever seen states being called so quickly in any other election#tldr i think trump tried to rush things and is desperately hoping that no one actually bothers to count the votes now#because if they do then it'll be super obvious that he tried to interfere
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Just because YOU don't like a piece of media because YOU think it's cringe and poorly written doesn't mean others don't like it. And just because YOU like a piece of media doesn't mean everyone likes it. You get? Great, now keep that in mind and stop shitting on media and people who enjoy that media AND HOW PEOPLE CHOOSE TO ENJOY THOSE MEDIAS. This goes with ships and characters too btw!!
#fanfiction#I've seen people shit on fandom culture y'all#fandoms#edits#the sun and the star#miraculous ladybug#bluey#ao3#wattpad#minecraft#streamers#fanfic writers#leo valdez#jason grace#hazel levesque#frank zhang#solangelo#frazel#newtmas#teresa agnes#thomesa#gally tmr#only tagging things prople shit on#aziraphale good omens#mr fell#a. z. fell#crystal palace#crystal dbd#cryland
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Shippuden is a ride
#holy shit they're such simps i love them#sasuke to the side: i doint know these people#like. they beat up sai for calling sasuke a traitor.... omg lol#i get what yall are saying but he very much did do that. like. that's a pretty significant thing that happened#i love this disaster trio sm#naruto#naruto shippuden#naruto uzumaki#sakura haruno#narusakusasu#btw from what I've seen this fandoms kinda toxic soo just a disclaimer this is all /pos#auds watches naruto#narusasusaku
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Somewhat articulate Kris thoughts, ch. 3+4 edition. Heads-up for spoilers and discussion of the series' themes of familial abuse. And why "Kris is evil actually" sucks.
Man, the ending of ch. 4 is genuinely kind of heartbreaking, and even more terrible in a way than any of the others--because it's so obvious that Kris is just a kid dealing with way too much.
Beyond the Knight stuff, the delta warrior stuff, the prophecy... Kris is just the town weird kid who came home with a friend, saw their mom dancing wine-drunk with the convenience store guy (after an entire Divorce Gameshow Extravaganza and a Horrible Visit to Noelle's Household ft. her abusive mom ft. horrible soul hockey, not to mention all the exhausting darkworld adventuring), and who just has to deal with all that. Unrelated but someone noted that Susie saw a drunk parent and immediately left and I can't stop thinking about it.
Kris is pulling their soul out more and more--maybe we just haven't seen it until now, but it seems like they've had to do this for a while (Toriel mentions that Kris just runs the tap and acts chaotic on impulse sometimes, lol how quirky amirite anyways) and no-one has recognized or been able to help, except now Noelle (hopefully that proceeds well?). But of course, monsters don't have souls--and Kris needs a lot of help with a lot of things that their parents etc. just can't handle. Toriel checking out that book on human care so much speaks to that lack of resources / knowledge.
Even amongst their family, Asgore is a complete outcast, Asriel is away at college, and a lot of the adults in town are nice but ultimately unable to help them. Take away the fantasy, and you're left with a community of friendly but ineffectual guardians who can't--or won't--recognize that Kris is dealing with chronic mental and physical issues. Susie is the bad kid, Kris is a nobody, and Noelle is the nice girl. They all have to fight to be seen as anything other than the stereotypes people envision them as.
Maybe that's why the dark world is so fun(?) for Susie and Noelle--you can literally fight the things that hurt you. Lancer's dad sucks, so Susie gets to have her big arc by telling him off. Queen is controlling, so Noelle triumphantly says "no" to her. But Kris...?
HOLY [[Cungadero1997]]!!! KRIS, YOU [[little sponge]], YOU'RE FUCKED!!
Every character whose insecurity ties into Kris' own--Tenna's desperation as a tool turned to trash, trying to keep a drifting family together, Spamton's garbage life as a puppet controlled by a voice on the phone... they fucking fail. I think they're ok on some level? Even Berdly gets to have a more cathartic end-of-chapter arc than Kris!
Kris isn't Evil, or the ultimate secret bad guy, or whatever. They're a traumatized kid clinging to any guardian figure they have, even when that guardian is overly controlling and potentially abusive towards them, just so long as they promise a way out of the present situation. Especially Carol and Mike (if the voice on the phone is indeed Mike).
Like, with all the marionette strings and fucked up families in the previous chapters, it's safe to say that Kris is in a bad situation (thematically and narratively), and deserves empathy--even when / if they do hurt others. In the next few chapters, they'll likely lash out in some really nasty and terrible ways, but... so would a lot of people.
So would a lot of [[BIG SHOT]] [[puppets]]
#deltarune#kris dreemurr#deltarune chapter three#deltarune spoilers#deltarune chapter four#sorry that this kinda turned into an anti-“kris is evil” ramble but#I'm standing by it.#If toby fox writes two entire video games about empathy forgiveness and the forces that drive good people to do terrible things#and ends it on#lol protagonist was actually evil!!!!#i will marinate fry and eat an entire steel-toed boot#i'm not even sure how popular the idea is in the fandom BUT#i've seen multiple posts like “i wanna punch kris now” and “oh so they're just evil lol”#like.#did we.#did we download the same deltarune????#i might examine chara in the same lens but ah well#that's a rant for another day
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discussion encouraged, aka please elaborate in tags or comments. i may be provoking the lion (please be civil) with this but i'm very curious about what the community thinks
for reference, "good" parenting implies that the kid in question feels secure and has no severe concerns or grievances with sonic himself or with having sonic as a parent (e.g., little to no daddy issues)
i'd appreciate rb's to boost the sample size but this is for personal research and satisfaction mostly!
#sonic the hedgehog#sonadow#sonamy#sonic fanart#sonic fankid#me.txt#sth#sth fandom#sth fankid#sonic series#sonic#sonic fandom#40 million tags for reach#idk i'm wrestling with sonic characterization for my starlight au#i know what i want to do with it but i'm absurdly curious about how others think about it#seen a few where sonadow are like divorced/bad parents but also a lot where they are great doting parents#always thought sonic's character was too enigmatic to really get a grasp of how he would handle parenthood#i mean also like for me it would really depend on whether sonic birthed that baby himself you know? where it came from#like his attitude or perspective would be different situationally#i feel like he would be a good dad in some ways but lack severely in others#guy who is typically hypercapable finds that he is failing in this very personal and intimate area of his life#that he's probably never considered seriously as an end goal for him until this moment#having and raising a kid requires some settling down yknow and depending on how you characterize him—#—that specific task could be the thing that tips him into being a neglectful parent instead of nurturing#resenting being stuck to one place#i think we could probably all agree that he would care about the kid if it is related to him regardless of parenting quality#whether or not the kid will have daddy issues? i've seen a mixed bag of thoughts on that matter#sonic meta#sonic discussion
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I will forever have personal beef with the Maddie being a traitor reveal, simply because it validated the people who were absolutely AWFUL about her character, even long before anything was confirmed. And not even because she was supposedly a traitor, but because she "got in the way of Caitvi."
#apparently all that love the fandom has for morally grey characters doesn't apply when it comes to Maddie#I've seen less singed hate than maddie hate#i have endless love for characters who supposedly “get in the way of a ship”#which is not a thing by the way#if a ship is going to be canon it's going to be#ya'll know who actually got in the way of caitvi? Caitlyn Girlfriend Hitter Kirramman#anti caitlyn kiramman#anti caitvi#maddie arcane#maddie nolen
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Ok ok, my other Tangled hot take is that Cass's villain arc was... good. It was good. Yes, there was some back and forth in S3 between her and Rapunzel that felt stagnant, but so many people like to shit on Cass and her character and completely misunderstand where she is coming from. It's not about the moonstone, or power, or whatever. Cass has a very big hole that she tries to fill by being useful, by being relied on, and that directly clashes with Raps, who has all her life been seen as a tool, as a thing of value, not her own person.
But Cass WANTS to be that tool. What does she say to Eugene in S1? Her father taught her how to earn her keep. So she gives everything to feel useful to Rapunzel and her journey, and is still pushed aside. So when she sees the vision of Gothel, she doesn't think "Oh wow what a shitty mother I had" she thinks "How can I PROVE that I have value as a person?" And despite thinking she's proving it to herself, who she's actually proving it to IS Gothel, the dead woman who abandoned her. If she was powerful enough, strong enough, capable enough, Gothel would have kept her.
And who takes Gothel's place as a manipulative demon on her shoulder.
#tangled the series#Cassandra#tts#rta#guess what fandom gets my fun analysis posts this time#Cass is a great character and I will die on this hill#what's funny is that if Cass DID have moon powers Gothel would have kept her#that would've been too useful for her to pass up#anyway Cass lashes out at her friends thinking being powerful and untouchable will not make her feel worthless.#but she feels worthless no matter what she does#girl really needs therapy#also sidenote so tried of ppl being like 'varian got jail but Cass did much worse things and got off scott free' did you miss the point#the whole show is about rehabilitation over punishment#anyway#really sad more people don't tap into this side of her character even the cassunzel fans#I've only seen ONE author write her in this way
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if you contribute fanart to the byler tag, just know i have probably been staring at it for several minutes and giggling/kicking my feet in awe and merriment
#I appreciate y'allll#carrying the fandom fr#byler#i've seen such incredible work on here it's insane#byler endgame#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things#stranger things 5#st5#artists#byler fanart
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I was looking through some game dialogue stuff and somewhere in the same conversation as "We're a team, Garrus. There's no Shepard without Vakarian, so you better remember to duck."
Apparently Shepard can say
"Shepard and Vakarian, storming heaven... I guess there are worse ways this could end."
Hello????? Hello??????????? HELLO?????????????????????????
#I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE MENTION THIS LINE H E L L O?????????????????????????????????#mass effect#mass effect 3#garrus vakarian#shakarian#I'M LOSING MY MIND OVER HERE#my posts#(people outside of the shakarian fandom that see this: i am completely entrenched in shakarian#this is probably a normal thing outside of that. but that's why i'm shocked xD)
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what is the ship name for us intl fans 😭💔 is there one. i've been calling them gilzel in my head. can i call them that. please let me know 🤲🤲🤲
#lizel#gil#gilzel#gil x lizel#a gentle noble's vacation recommendation#odayaka kizoku no kyuuka no susume#my art#i'm at that age where i'm fixated with that one thing#which is ✨properly tagged ship posts✨#i already tried searching around but couldn't find anything so i thought if i wanna start drawing ship arts i should do something#japanese ship names are rather easy but#ship names for eng speaking(?) fans can be a bit difficult bc it seems like people prefer a name that also sounds good so...#(i've seen jp fans use jrlz too but if ppl don't know the jp pronunciation then idk if it'd click immediately)#the jp fandom seems normal(?) so i didn't expect the intl side to be this barren HELP
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sorry but that one post I reblogged has me all up in arms over Nacho's motivations again cause like
it's just such a shame how much fandom completely missed the point of his character and his daddy issues when they filled the gaps with a stereotypical "dirt poor immigrant childhood" backstory.
Manuel Varga isn't poor. Nacho never found any unpaid bills on his father's desk, y'all just made that up in your minds. Manuel lives a humble, earnest life as the owner of a small business that seems to be running reasonably well. the problem Nacho has with this is not that he's poor. what pisses Nacho off is that his father is satisfied with this.
because here's the thing: Nacho is not. Nacho is never satisfied. no matter how much money he earns, he thinks he deserves more. because he's prideful, he's arrogant and he thinks he's the smartest person in the room. and THAT is what ends up biting him in the ass. cause when he realizes that he's in too deep and has to make decisions that even he cannot reasonably reconcile with his conscience, it's too late.
#Nacho Varga#Better Call Saul#and the thing is#if that wasn't the case#if what got him into this mess in the first place#is the fact that he loves his dad so much and wants to help#then what kind of ending would his death be??#woobification my arch nemesis you raise ur ugly head again orz#Kroko speaks#(thats not to say that the immigrant background doesn’t affect his character at all#because it clearly does#just not in the way I've seen fandom depict it >>)
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chat the voices are loud again
#nebula rambles#shitpost#i think if from what i've peeped that the utmv fandom are scary as FUCK#i've been keeping a relative eye on things for the hell of it and#it feels like a car crash i can't look away from#ofc i've only seen a portion of it cause this shit is HUGE#but jesus CHRIST man
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