#the sons of Feanor

[eerieechos]

‘Curufin got burns on his arms from holding onto Fëanor as he fucking exploded’ is a revolutionary god tier idea that I am subscribing to for the rest of my life

[anattmar]

and thereafter he wandered ever upon the shores, singing in pain and regret beside the waves

[finalgirlart]

limited palette celegrom

[a-mountain-hobbit]

The Fall of Doriath musical stream

Do you especially enjoy the doom and despair parts of the Silmarillion? Then I have the musical for you! Pád Doriathu is about the end of said forest realm, and the downward spiral at the end of the first Age of Beleriand. It's by Falešné Společenstvo (a czech musical theatre group who has 6 full-length Silm musicals so far).

If you don't speak Czech, like many of us, all of the songs and the prologue have automatic english subtitles from the original script. With the dialogue, it's more context/vibes-based. But still very enjoyable, and the beautiful music of course transcends language barriers.

You can watch the musical here on yt, but if you would like to watch it in a group, the Last Homely Server is hosting 2 watchparties again. Hope to see you there!

Stream 1: 30th of November, 18:30 CET Stream 2: 1st of December, 10:00 CET

Cytube room: https://cytu.be/r/paddoriathu Password: silmaril

Maedhros in defiance and despair after the Sack of Doriath

[stitcherofchaos]

Kidnap Fam vs Earendil and Elwing controversy: Regarding the twins

Maybe I’m too practical-minded, but I see a lot of people either supporting or exaggerating kidnap fam, hating it with all their being, or ignoring the whole ‘love grew between them’ to translate into ‘emotional manipulation, hatred, resentment… etc (being anti-canon)’. I’ll respect opinions, frankly, I really could care less about them, but it does get irritating when people throw canon away for the drama (I certainly get annoyed when extreme pro-kidnap fams fans make it all sunshine and rainbows as if it wasn’t a difficult time or situation).

By the way, I can and will say that the twins can feel emotions, they are allowed to do that. Resentment and love can exist at the same time (for only a period of time) but one or the other must fade in order for the other the linger. One has to be consumed in order for the other to burn.

But just a thought, Elrond and Elros could love all of their parents equally, no more, no less than the others. One became a healer and the other, a king, I think they came to understand their foster father(s) and their bio-parents’ decisions.

(Ay maybe I just suck at emotions and all this feelings stuff and have no idea what I’m tolkien about)

And I’m not trying to call out or bash anyone!

I saw (and wanted to share) the quote,

“if your anger burns the furnace in your soul your whole life, you will be forever cold in the grave.”(I’m paraphrasing, I can’t remember the exact quote)

I cannot imagine Elrond or Elros being resentful to the point were they are vicious or unforgiving, whether it was towards Elwing, Eärendil, Maglor, or Maedhros (I really don’t think he was involved too much but if you swing that way).

I don’t want Elros to be cold in his grave, and I certainly don’t want Elrond's fëa to be burning for the rest of his immortal life.

Then I also had the thought, 'if the Fëanorians had never committed the third, worst, kinslaying, then Elwing would have never flown the Silmaril to her husband and they would have never gotten the help of the Valar.'

I personally headcanon that it was Eru’s work at hand to have Maglor raise Elrond and Elros. Think about it, what if they were spoiled in an alternate universe? What if something worse had happened to the twins? What if? What if?

What if they didn't become who they were meant to be if it wasn't for who they were raised by?

By the way, I read LOTR, I know Elrond refers to Eärendil publicly as his father and he makes no mention of Maglor. I analyzed this in three ways. 1.) Elrond must keep (the memory of) Maglor closed off, locked in his heart rather than talking about him more. 2.) It would've caused drama in his realm and in the counsel. 3.) Elrond really doesn't care, his father is his father, that's it. Zip. Maglor raised him, but Maglor is gone now. In a way, Eärendil is more present than Maglor in Elrond's life by the third age. Elrond can physically see the star, but he can't see Maglor.

I see it in the third way mostly. Eärendil is Elrond father, biologically, so why would he do this "My 'real' father" BS? It just seems like a waste of time. Tolkien probably didn't want to confuse anyone since the Silmarillion couldn't be published with LOTR.

Remind me of that quote from Yondu, "He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn't your daddy." But I really didn't want to refer to that quote considering Peter and Yondu's relationship is not the best example to compare this cluster of daddy issues to. Nevertheless, there is a point to be made in that statement. There is a difference between relation in regard to Nature vs Nurture, and the effects of it.

I guess the whole point of this post is, the fandom tends to take canon lore to the extreme or over analyze things to the point where they're just projecting. Trust me, I've been there, done that. I've learned my lesson (I think) and I wanted to share what I've learned.

Also (this is purely opinion) I don’t think Maglor was manipulative about anything, in the book, he just didn’t come off that way, for as little as he appeared, he actually seemed to be pretty optimistic (*regarding Eärendil) and honest (*the debate with Maedhros). He didn’t try to excuse himself or get the twins to pity him. Maglor raising the twins was out of pity/mercy, yes, but love grew (like what Tolkien said). He probably educated them on the facts and encouraged them to form their own opinions, whether that costed him their love or not. Maglor did have the more accurate moral compass compared to his brothers (in the end of the book!- Put down your pitchforks Maedhros stans!), especially if he knew that the Silmaril was better beyond their reach than where the enemy can also reach it. It was an accurate moral compass, although not a big one.

Argue, agree or disagree, or discuss with me! I want to hear different perspectives or opinions on this matter.

[braxix]

Maglor: What does Celegorm's sign say?

Maedhros: The Unfinished Sig?

Maglor: Really, Maitimo?

Maedhros: It's half built and looks like it's going to fall apart at any moment.

Maglor: Seriously?

Maedhros: Unfinished Sig...? oh wait, I get it now. That is funny.

[in-the-glow-of-a-silmaril]

Even if the sons of feanor had been handed a silmaril freely at any point in Beleriand it would not have helped them. Hey. Are you listening. The silmarils were hallowed. Ever since the first kinslaying they would have rejected the feanorians. Luthien could have walked right up and dumped it on their heads and it would not have saved them. Earendil doing what he did walked a very thin tightrope to an outcome where Morgoth is defeated. But either way, whether or not they knew it, the silmarils were lost to the feanorians almost the entire time they sought them.

"If Dior did this, if Elwing did that," it doesn't matter!!! Not even taking their perspectives and situations and political landscapes into account at all, it didn't matter!!! The silmarils COULD NOT be held by the sons of feanor. They were on an impossible quest and did not know it... only at the end could they see their own mistakes, and then there is little to be done. Self destruction of one kind or another.... they are in the narrative. They cannot escape it.

[maeofthenoldor]

Using Headcanon Generator for the Sons of Feanor

Bonus +

[edennill]

Sons of Feanor - who's their favourite brother:

Maedhros: he doesn't have one and won't answer such a question By the end it's Maglor. Early on, that's the annoying one because the others are forever young and babies and innocent in his mind - until they're not, and Maglor is the only one who's not a walking diplomatic disaster, and believes swords should be plan B not plan A.

Maglor: For a while it's whoever's currently the baby, but ultimately it's Maedhros.

Celegorm: Curufin. After that it's the twins who would follow him into fire.

Caranthir: definitely Maedhros. All the others are either annoying or envy-inducing or cliquish to the exclusion of certain people who are between them in order of birth isn't that unfair him. But Mae is fine and he never intrudes on his privacy and is an excellent conversation partner so he can even forgive him his occasional reproaches because you can't just say whatever you think before Thingol's messengers dammit Moryo

Curufin: Celegorm. Maedhros is his least favourite one because there's been a rivalry between them since he was like eight.

Amrod: Amras if that even counts. After that Celegorm.

Amras: Amrod, ditto

[symphonyofsilence]

My friend once upon seeing some fanarts of the sons of Fëanor and learning about their mother's profession proclaimed that their mother had sculpted them.

And then my brain at 3 A.M decided to take me on an acid trip:

A gothic version of the Fëanorians story where Fëanor and Nerdanel can't have children. Melkor comes to them and claims that he can give some of Nerdanel's statues life and they can be their children. But since only Eru can give life, Melkor should draw the life force for their children from other living things. And those life forces will eventually want to return to their sources. So all of their children would die at some point. They accept the term. Melkor gives life to seven of Nerdanel's statues. Fëanor becomes overprotective of his sons and always keeps them close to himself. Needless to say, this exact thing makes a self-fulfilling prophecy out of what Melkor said. The events of the canon happen just like before and the sons of Fëanor, because of loyally following their father to the bitter end, fall one by one. When they die, they turn into lifeless statues again. Until only Maglor is left. Then, right when Maglor is about to fade away Fëanor from the Halls of Mandos puts all his "spirit of fire" into work and gives all of his life force to Maglor. Maglor survives while Fëanor completely disappears from existence.

[eerieechos]

I am going to finish this sketchbook before the end of the year or So Help Me God-

[imfromthemiddlekingdom]

Okay this might be controversial but I do not believe anyone but Feanor and his sons have ANY claim to the Silmarils. This is coming from a person who’s family jewels have been stolen by colonizers and then sold on the market and when we asked for them back showing proof how it belonged to us, the buyer said no because, “I now own it since I paid for it from the money my daddy gave me”.

My family were landlords in feudal China. My great grandfather was a member of the Qing court and my family has done terrible things in history to those we viewed as “beneath us”. Yet the jewel that was an heirloom that got stolen when the eight nation alliance sacked Beijing still belonged to us. Not the person who stole it and then went on to sell it, and definitely not the person who bought it.

I remember when the sale of the necklace made the news and my grandmother broke down crying because she knew it. The same exact necklace sat upon the neck of the portrait of her grandfather in her house. My mother wrote to the new ‘owner’ asking if they’ll return it or if they’ll allow her to buy it off him since it belonged to us, and that person, who was Chinese as well, who knew also the pain of colonization, said no. All because in his eyes he paid for it through legitimate means therefore he owned it.

That piece of jewelry isn’t all that expensive bar the historical value of it since it was given to my ancestors by Qianlong but it was a religious piece as well as a sentimental one. It hold value do to its history not because of any value it holds as it was made from otherwise common materials. But still my family held to traditions, especially religious ones.

But if that piece of jewelry contained a piece of my ancestors soul within them I would definitely be more feral in my hatred towards those who kept it from us. There’s so few mementos left from my ancestors as we sold most of it to support the revolution in the early 20th century and the rest were lost during the middle of the century and those that we kept we coveted. But if any of the rest of the jade and gold I still hold were stolen from me and we’re known to contain a piece of my ancestors soul I would stop at nothing to get it back.

No one but Feanor and his direct descendants have ANY claim to the Silmarils. Just as no one but those who hold claim to stolen Jewish artworks hold any claim to them and none hold any claim to the stolen Buddhist statutes taken from my country but the temple the colonizers took it from. The kinslaying’s were objectively horrible. They were objectively wrong and the sons of Feanor should be punished because of their actions yet Varda had no right to judge who was more worthy of a gem she had no hand in creating. She had no right to declare that the Sins of Feanor were unholy and unworthy due to their deeds that came about due to her and her husbands unwillingness to do anything about her once suitor and his brother.

Thingol had no right in claiming the Silmarils as his own, Luthien stealing a stolen artifact does not make it hers by right. Just because the British stole the 12 zodiac heads does it make them there’s? Just because the person who now owns the dragon head bought it in an auction now ‘owns’ it because they paid out of pocket for it does it now make it there’s? Dior had no right to the jewel, nor did Elwing or Eärendil. The only argument you might make to make Elwings claim stronger is for the Silmaril to be a reparation for Doriath. But even then you have to weigh the cost that Doriath cost staying out of the war and the lives lost due to them raising the griddle and not aiding any of the Sindar that lived out of it.

Even if you believe that the Sons of Feanor had no right to the Silmarils than it should’ve gone to Feanors wife. The Valar had no right to declare any creation of the Children theirs. Havana’s two trees may have provided the light that was contained within the three jewels but would you consider the light that is caught in film the property of the sun? Can you claim that 静夜思-李白 (Quiet Night Thoughts - Li Bai) belongs to the moon goddess since she inspired his poem and her beauty is now held within his poem? Or that the Song of Songs belong to Solomon because it is also known as the Song of Solomon?

The Valar lost all ‘right’ they had to the gems Varda blessed when they decided that the Noldors rebellion hurt their pride and they would not do anything to aid them. And Thingol Dior and Luthein never had any right to them in the first place, just because you stole something that was stolen doesn’t make it yours(!!!!). The only one in that whole line that can claim any right to the gems are Elwing and even that is debatable due to how many people died due to Doriaths inactions.

It’s mainly white people I see defending that the gems no longer belong to Feanors kin and I don’t have to wonder about why that is. When most white people wouldn’t even admit to the fact that their museums would be empty without stolen Chinese artifacts or stolen artifacts. Most of the white people I see simping for Thingol and defending his actions and Diors actions and Beren’s actions have never had their homes ravaged by outside forces and have had their belongings stolen from them. They will never understand the hatred you’d feel when seeing your ancestors work displayed in glass when your family grieves because those should’ve been burned with them instead of being on display. The Silmarils do not belong to anyone but Feanors Kin and all of the Valar should literally die because they are egotistical assholes who only want to be worshipped and when they mess up they blame everyone but themselves.

[finalgirlart]

the last two standing

I can’t remember where I saw it but someone made a headcanon that elves wear mourning veils and I absolutely loved the idea. I can’t see maedhros wearing one most of the time since he kind of needs to be recognizable. I also vibe with idea of elves having complex and meaningful hair braiding practices but it’s just so much more fun to paint loose hair

[thewhitewolf2002]

Prompt fic

Silmarillion

I just finished a really good fic and a prompt came to me that might be cool for you fanfic writers in the fandom, I would love to read a story in which all of Fëanor's sons including Fëanor himself survived their original canonical death events if somehow but they don't know that their brothers and children survived for some reason, and the ages pass and one day they decide to take a comes back to discover that everyone is still alive and living eons apart, and perhaps as a bonus the only one who discovers that something very strange has happened is elrond who doesn't stop of finding Feanorians scattered across Middle Earth on their way to breakfast

Ps: spoiler everyone wants to adopt him

[tolkienreader1996]

Let’s make a list of people that Fëanor and his sons should adopt

Reblog with who you believe needs adoption plus who needs to adopt them if you have a specific Fëanorion in mind

I’ll go first: Link and Zelda from botw/totk adopted by Maedhros

[maglorslostsilmaril]

wait did maglor actually commit the most war crimes out of the feanorians

first kinslaying: all eight

burning of the ships: everyone but maedhros (and amrod?)

attempted kidnapping and assault: celegorm and curufin*

second kinslaying: sons of feanor (minus amrod?)

third kinslaying: maedhros maglor amrod(?) amras

kidnapping: maedhros maglor

silmaril stealing: maedhros maglor

that brings the grand tally, from least to greatest, to:

burnt amrod, with 1 war crime

feanor with 2 war crimes

caranthir with three war crimes

celegorm*, curufin*, unburnt amrod, and amras with four war crimes

maedhros with five war crimes

maglor with six war crimes!

so uhhhh yeah. stop excusing maglor’s actions because he was described as kind or gentle. he wasn’t described as regretful until his entire family was dead and he had nothing to live for; if anything maedhros should be the regretful one. maglor is a great character because he’s kind and gentle and also a mass murderer. (also uhhh there’s a whole lot to be said about the fanon characterization of maglor given that he has stereotypically “feminine” traits but we can get into that another time)

*obviously the luthien fiasco is being counted here, if not then celegorm and curufin would sit with caranthir at a humble three war crimes