#the of course discourse
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stophoranmyheartaround Ā· 6 months ago
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As an actor and writer myself, I love when a show will do little phrase callbacks that are so loaded and can have so much punch. And for S3P1 so far in my head, one of my faves has been what Iā€™ve started calling ā€œthe ā€˜of courseā€™ discourse.ā€
For me, Colin kicks it off in 3.2 in that gorgeous final scene in the Featherington garden when Pen asks if she can ask him something and Luke Newton delivers that ā€œof courseā€ without hesitation. Heā€™ll do anything for her, no question. Colin is here for Pen. (I could get into what all was he expecting/feeling in this late night visit but thatā€™s another time perhapsā€¦) The loaded part of that ā€œof courseā€ obviously comes from Penā€™s response here but now weā€™re off. At the end of this exchange, we all know Colinā€™s world is ROCKED. SHOOK. CANDLE FULLY BRIGHT. (Those fierce flames in his dream sequence immediately opening 3.3 arenā€™t just mood lighting IMO.)
And then we see how every time Colin responds ā€œof courseā€ after that shift, they mean so much more. Like him affirming to Alice and Will that itā€™s ā€œof courseā€ the goal for her to find a husband. He doesnā€™t think that anymore. But itā€™s what heā€™s expected to say and agree to. (Again, great layering by Newts.) Like agreeing to act like heā€™s not talking to Pen in the tent to get the deets about Debling. Heā€™s agreeing but he doesnā€™t want that to be the case. Like under the willow tree when everything is crumbling on his end with Pen but heā€™s still trying to agree to what she seemingly wants. (Fab work on both their parts here because no one is really saying what they fully mean.)
But the best part to me is the gut-wrencher when Pen gets involved in that final scene of 3.3. Colin has approached her, determined to find out the answer to his all-important question confirming their feelings, and as heā€™s drawn into her lips and canā€™t quite get the words out and Pen is definitely feeling a lot of things back, thereā€™s that block from Debling with his reminder of their time to dance. And Pen and Colin have that lingering look, Colin wants so desperately to ask and canā€™t muster the words and Pen canā€™t help herself on her end because she is also SO conflicted. But she turns and takes Deblingā€™s offered hand and delivers that ā€œOf course, my Lordā€ that just hurts all around. The kick in of ā€œHappier Than Everā€ is the perfect amplifier here because Colin AND Pen are represented here. Yes, a part of Pen enjoys her dance but she wouldā€™ve enjoyed it even more if she thought it couldā€™ve been her and Colin. Colin is trying to process how him letting that moment go couldā€™ve been letting go of more than he bargained for. (Absolutely brilliant all around here, especially the musical button of his look right on that last plucked chord at the start.)
Ugh. I just love it. (I know thereā€™s more I could go on about but this is wordy enough.) I canā€™t wait for S3P2 and to see all the moments we get in store this back half. And hereā€™s to many more layered moments, of course. šŸ˜‰
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watchingwisteria Ā· 1 year ago
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listen there really was just something about how in the book, snowā€™s 3-page descent from hesitant lover boy to deluded mfer happens entirely in his mind. lucy gray gives him no indication whatsoever that she suspects him, that sheā€™s going to leave or betray him. heā€™s just sitting quietly in the cabin waiting for her to return when that seed of calculated suspicion, which he has needed to survive the capitol, takes a hold of him and chokes the life out of any goodness left inside him. it really drives home your terror as a reader that ā€œoh my god did he kill her? did she escape? what happened to her? why would he even think that?ā€ in a way that when the movie had to adjust for visualization it lost some of that holy shit this guy has lost it emphasis.
#seeing some discourse and im not saying lucy grey didnt know#im saying she never dropped the kind of hints that she knew like she did in the movie#or if she did snow isnt worried about them until he very suddenly is consumed by them#snow is not concerned about whether or not she believed him. of course she did! hes snow!#but then shes goneā€¦. for a whileā€¦ā€¦#and its the sudden immediate drastic unravelling that comes across so clearly in the book#that i knew wouldnā€™t translate to screen yet still cant help but miss#the hunger games#coriolanus snow#tbosas#lucy gray baird#not a crime or anything just a note that i cannot stop thinking about#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#this is all from memory of reading it quite a while ago. so maybe 3 pages is an exaggeration#but i remember it happening VERY quickly and without much external cause#like we as the reader have no indication as to whether shes nearby or not.#snow has no idea either. he just SUSPECTS. and his suspicion breeds the hatred that has been bubbling inside him all this time#he hates how she undoes him. he hates that he WOULD run away with her if shed let him keep his secrets#and he HATES more than anything that she makes him WANT to tell his secrets#he wants to be vulnerable and reveal the ugly nasty parts about himself and still be loved#but he does not let himself and it is everyoneā€™s downfall#he chooses cruelty bc it is easy and familiar and makes him feel more powerful than the vulnerable give and take that real love requires
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psychotrenny Ā· 6 months ago
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Listening to Tumblr Users has taught me a lot of things about Trans Women. For example:
Every Trans Woman I disagree with about video games is a pedophile
Every Trans Woman I disagree with about politics is a Russian psyop and
Every Trans Woman I disagree with about transmisogyny is an androphobe
I can't wait to find out more ^^
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gay-cartoon-enjoyer Ā· 6 months ago
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Gravity Falls meme I made in 5 min
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Might as well repost this, since itā€™s the month of Maybel. šŸ’«
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yasminthespiritfaninnit Ā· 9 months ago
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I will say one more thing before moving the fuck on and waiting for more. Cause I have a feeling there will be more eventually.
I am completely believing and supporting Shubble. Shubbleā€™s the victim and she did not name her abuser for a reason. We should not jeopardize her plans.
Now, on a unrelated note, I will still be supporting Wilbur as well until if heā€™s found to be 100% clearly the guy who Shubble is talking about.
I believe in innocent until proven guilty and similarities and coincidences (like Wilbur also being a biter and someone with a messy place (and an ant infestation), and Zoe leaving Lovejoy for some reason) donā€™t equal evidence.
Itā€™s hearsay and conjecture and I want to see more shit then that to believe that Wilburā€™s the abuser.
So, I believe Shubble and that she needs all the support she can get. And I believe that Wilbur is innocent. Until thereā€™s a legitimate update, I will be moving on from this.
Speculating on who the abuser is will only put Shubble in more danger. Thereā€™s no good result coming from jumping conclusions right now.
Hug Shubble and keep Wilbur out of this until thereā€™s a legitimate connection. And even if there is a connection, focus on helping Shubble. We arenā€™t the law, yā€™all!
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bookwyrminspiration Ā· 28 days ago
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i need you all to be normal about people deciding they don't want to explore their identities. we're not inherently repressing anything, and we're not lost opportunities for self-fulfillment and finding community. maybe some people are, but we are allowed to decide we're satisfied and digging deeper isn't what we want, and we're valid for it. it is our choice. please stop treating us like we're naive and gonna regret it
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sforzesco Ā· 2 months ago
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BALAK, PANGAGAD
uhhh conspiracy. can be a courtship dance. ritual. so to speak. & hosting one in your house is an act of service
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jjkyaoi Ā· 3 months ago
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the way people are reacting to chappell roan simply saying she does not want to be harassed in public is weird as fuck. ā€œi donā€™t think sheā€™s cut out for same if this is how she actsā€ WHAT???? HUH?????? SHES NOT CUT OUT FOR FAME BECAUSE SHE DOESNT WANT TO BE SHOUTED AT IN THE STREET AND CONSTANTLY BE FOLLOWED BY PEOPLE ???? the entitlement you freaks are starting to have is insane, w the mindset of ā€œwe gave them their career so they should let us do whatever want to themā€ šŸ˜­
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finelythreadedsky Ā· 1 year ago
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JSTOR Wrapped: top ten JSTOR articles of 2023
Coo, Lyndsay. ā€œA Tale of Two Sisters: Studies in Sophoclesā€™ Tereus.ā€Ā Transactions of the American Philological Association 143, no. 2 (2013): 349ā€“84.
Finglass, P. J. ā€œA New Fragment of Sophoclesā€™ ā€˜Tereus.ā€™ā€Ā Zeitschrift FĆ¼r Papyrologie Und EpigraphikĀ 200 (2016): 61ā€“85.
Foxhall, Lin. ā€œPandora Unbound: A Feminist Critique of Foucaultā€™s History of Sexuality.ā€ InĀ Sex and Difference in Ancient Greece and Rome, edited by Mark Golden and Peter Toohey, 167ā€“82. Edinburgh University Press, 2003.
Garrison, Elise P. ā€œEurydiceā€™s Final Exit to Suicide in the ā€˜Antigone.ā€™ā€Ā The Classical WorldĀ 82, no. 6 (1989): 431ā€“35.
Grethlein, Jonas. ā€œEine Anthropologie Des Essens: Der Essensstreit in Der ā€˜Iliasā€™ Und Die Erntemetapher in Il. 19, 221-224.ā€Ā HermesĀ 133, no. 3 (2005): 257ā€“79.
McClure, Laura. ā€œTokens of Identity: Gender and Recognition in Greek Tragedy.ā€Ā Illinois Classical StudiesĀ 40, no. 2 (2015): 219ā€“36.
Purves, Alex C. Ā ā€œWind and Time in Homeric Epic.ā€Ā Transactions of the American Philological AssociationĀ 140, no. 2 (2010): 323ā€“50.
Richlin, Amy. ā€œGender and Rhetoric: Producing Manhood in the Schools.ā€ InĀ Sex and Difference in Ancient Greece and Rome, edited by Mark Golden and Peter Toohey, 202ā€“20. Edinburgh University Press, 2003.
Rood, Naomi. ā€œFour Silences in Sophoclesā€™ ā€˜Trachiniae.ā€™ā€Ā ArethusaĀ 43, no. 3 (2010): 345ā€“64.
Zeitlin, Froma I. ā€œThe Dynamics of Misogyny: Myth and Mythmaking in the Oresteia.ā€Ā ArethusaĀ 11, no. 1/2 (1978): 149ā€“84.
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orangechickenpillow Ā· 6 months ago
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Not to be parasocial but I am glad that the watcher boys seem to be handling everything well. Obviously with their response and listening to the fans, but I'm also glad that the severity of the backlash hasn't completely killed their excitement for their projects and the future of watcher.
This whole situation was a lot for everyone, and I know it's left a bad taste in some people's mouths, but I'm happy that Shane, Ryan and Steven have had level-headed responses to it (at least, public responses)
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interstellarsystem Ā· 27 days ago
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Plurality and Suffering
This was going to be a reblog to someone else's post, but this deserves its own. My wording might be slightly weird because I'm having some disorganised thinking, ask to clarify if you need.
People online have such an issue with plurals presenting themselves as happy, or enjoying the fact that they're a system in the slightest. If you're not all doom and gloom, people just... Assume you're faking it for fun? As if plurals have to share their suffering online? As if they have to suffer?
"You're clearly treating plurality like its all fun and games! Look at all these silly, lighthearted posts! Not a hint of distress or trauma! How can you be diagnosed with DID when you're clearly not disordered?"
Do you ever stop to think for more than 5 seconds about personal safety? There's people who hate systems left and right, cringe subreddit posters, and generally people who would take that information and use it against you in some way. You don't share your personal name and address online, so why should we share the ins and outs of our daily struggles? Our trauma in any amount of detail? Anything that could be used to hurt or manipulate us further?
Not only is no one else entitled to that information, but it's not safe to share in a place where strangers can see it. We don't share a list of our triggers for the same reasons--we don't want to hand out the keys to our trauma to anyone who happens to see us online.
Not every plural has to suffer either, mind you. So many types of systems tend to not struggle due to their plurality or even anything remotely related to it, and that's okay! You don't need to suffer to be real, suffering isn't a prerequisite to being plural. I'm not even just talking about nondisordered systems here either.
Systems with CDDs can heal. DID, OSDD, DDNOS, anything. They can get to a point where life is worth living if it didn't feel like it already. It could be through final fusion, but it could also be through learning to live together happily as a collective. They can get to a point where the major suffering of the past is far behind. Having a dissociative disorder is NOT a death sentence, I promise you. Things can get better, either through therapy, or medication or just time and learning itself--all while still remaining happily plural.
Acting like disabled people (or even a subgroup of them) will never ever be able to live a life with any happiness or one even worth living at all is an ableist argument used to support so many horrible things thrown toward disabled people of all kinds. It's a few steps away from saying we need to be put out of our misery because we can never live a meaningful, happy life. We've seen this exact argument used against all kinds of mentally or physically disabled people, saying it's cruel to keep them living. And that's absolutely ridiculous.
It's so sad that these sentiments are common in CDD spaces. Yes, there are struggles that come with the disorder, but you can heal. The idea that you will never be okay is a lie. You might not be at a neurotypical level of functioning, but you can be happy, and you can be happy being plural. You are worth it, your disorder doesn't change that, and neither does the general community vibe of "everyone has to suffer and hate their system". You can be happy, you can love your system, you can grow together and make life what you want it to be.
Being a system of any kind is never, EVER a sign that your life will never be good. It's never a sign that you can never feel happy again. It's never a sign that you should just give up. And being required to show off how much you struggle in order to have the basic amount of respect--people just simply believing that you experience what you say you do--is absolutely ridiculous. You don't need to suffer at all, and if you are suffering, you don't need to do it forever--much less share that with people who could use it against you.
Do better, for yourselves and for others in your community. It's okay to be in pain, it's okay to wish things were different, it's okay to share experiences and gather support, but it's not okay to act like no one who is plural could ever have happiness in their life, or claim that those who don't suffer as much as you are fake. Stop spreading the sentiment that suffering is the only way.
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brettdoesdiscourse Ā· 2 months ago
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Gee, I wonder why "art" made by AI is shitty in quality
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ingravinoveritas Ā· 9 months ago
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We finally got a comment from David about what it was like kissing Michael and it's the headline in this Guardian article. I need 5 to 7 business days to process this...
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aropride Ā· 1 year ago
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wewontbesleeping Ā· 11 days ago
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so weird to see women try to find loopholes for 4B instead of supporting the women who are interested in it or even just ignoring it. but what if i date THIS man?? like girl no one is forcing you to join. you can fuck/marry/kill all the men you want, no one cares. seriously. no one cares. it's your life, do what you want.
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that-satireguy Ā· 19 days ago
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GUYS. I think my brain just died.
A conversation i just had:
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AND THE MOST INSANE PART:
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WHAT DO I SAY TO THIS?!
I'M A TRANS GUY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW I EXPERIENCE MISOGYNY!???
Genuinely. Like. Where am I supposed to go from here.
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