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so, I got asked what's the spymaster timeline argument and why do I argue about it so much and keep defending spymaster lol so I wrote a long ass thing that I want to share with you.
SO. there are different arguments for people I argue with
1. having the master back as evil ruins Missy's arc and they hate him
2. having the master back as evil doesn't make sense after missy but would make sense before missy
3. They just fucking hate him god knows why.
4. A mix of these
Now. I have strong opinions, and those strong opinions are that I don't have a problem with dhawan master at all. I think he simply fits in after missy in the most normal way possible. I never saw a problem with it and I find it confusing that people do. Cause?? Imagine dying, then regenerating and realising the doctor has left you alone, but fair, cause he didn't know. So you go on gallifrey, hoping he shows up. While you're there you start hacking into the matrix for fun, cause you're the master and you like having a bit of fun. You discover horrible things. The doctor is not who they think they are, the time lords are not what you thought they were and all of your species including yourself is a product of the doctor's DNA.
This places the doctor as some kind of god. The origin of the time lords. They weren't time lords before the doctor, just gallifreyans, with no real power or anything to make them important. He's simultaneously angry at the time lords for lying about their identity, and at the doctor for being the most important time lord of them all, for being THE time lord, the original. Ultimately, for being more than him.
Now. The master has a certainty during the entirety of the show. The doctor is his equal, they have opposite moralities, but they're equals. Now, the security in this statement he believed in all his life shatters. They're not equals. He is who he is only because of the doctor. Thinking back to missy, she was the regeneration that absolutely wanted the doctor to see her as equal as well. She wanted to be like the doctor cause she missed him, and felt like he was the only one like her. So she tried to be like him, she accepted to be imprisoned in a vault and basically be changed to have the same beliefs of the doctor. But she did it willingly. Cause she wanted them to be the same. Now this entire arc feels wrong to the master (dhawan) , cause now he knows he could never be like the doctor, how could he? The doctor is much more. He thinks missy was his biggest mistake, he humiliated himself to be something he could never be. He gets out of the matrix and throws a tantrum, killing everyone on the planet for having lied to him (and to the doctor). When he sees the doctor again he hates her. He hates her cause she's just there, being her usual self, while in reality she has a bigger role in everything than she could ever think. He hates her cause a part of her is in him, and that means he's less. He's lesser than her. I also remember one scene where he was like "did I ever apologise for that?" (I don't remember what) And she was like "no" and him "good". I think about it often in relation to missy, cause he was definitely saying it because of her. Why any other master should have apologised for something? Only missy was apologising for stuff she did. It might be a big reach but I like to think it's about her. And he's like "good" cause he regrets being missy and trying to redeem himself, like I said before. Anyway the follow up from here is simple, he hates her and stuff, but he also feels bad not letting her know why. So then he decides to show her her story, all he can. No one should live without knowing their origins. so he shows her, and then he says he would like to show her more, but there's nothing else to show. It's the only moment in which he's doing something kind for her. Cause I believe in some way, he's also mad at the time lords for lying to the doctor. And here's part of why he decides to use their dead bodies in such an unworthy way. They have to pay not only with their life but also with their dignity, so he turns them into cybermasters.
This is also a way to cope and create his own race, to feel a little more on the doctor's level. She created the time lords, he destroyed them and created another species with their bodies. Then it's not enough and he decides that the only way to be equals is to become her. At this point he's gone completely insane, like, we see that. But it's totally understandable for him to act that way. His whole worldview changes. Everything he believed in is not true anymore. He doesn't know who he is anymore (I also just thought about this identity crisis he was having and how he stole Rasputin's identity, but this is an analysis for another day).
Anyway this got off topic cause I had to explain only the missy/dhawan thing but then started talking about dhawan in general so forgive me lol.
Other than this, if we take big finish in consideration there's the lumiat, that comes between missy and dhawan and her story really helps some people accepting the change (for some people it's still not enough though) and in the 2021 annual is confirmed that dhawan comes after missy, as we have the doctor and the master talking about the master's story from delegado to dhawan and thirteen says "I quite liked you as missy" and he replies that she spent too much time with him and it's something that should never happen again.
anyway. I've made my point on why the missy -> spymaster regeneration simply makes sense. It's just a normal timeline, I don't know why people think it doesn't work
#some of these people just don't understand the master overall or don't consider missy the same as the master#which is a thing for another day cause i see too many of yall treating her like shes not the master#missy could be the most mischaracterised master of them all i think#spymaster#dhawan master#the master#the master doctor who#doctor who#sacha dhawan#sacha dhawan if you can hear me....#spydoc#twissy#missy#missy doctor who#thoschei#character analysis#master timeline argument#the master timeline#missy -> spymaster
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kids these days just don't think 27 is as shockingly young as they used to...
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#anyway updating the pokemon center was a fun event. normal about cyrus (lying)#pokemon#pokemas#pokemon masters ex#galactic boss cyrus#sophocles#penny#rotom#art tag#btw this got me thinking about the confusing pokemon timeline and how much older than them he'd ACTUALLY be#yknow. if this weren't a cyrus pulled Directly from platinum.#he'd probably be like 40 by sv right... such a dinosaur (<- joke)
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Prompt 312
You know what I never see used in crossovers? The fact that the Rogues, Flash’s rogues specifically, will not only hold a funeral for any central city rogue that passes, but several, if not all, will don their costume and commit one final crime in their name, so their rap sheet has one final score. Like can you imagine that for a final send off?
Can you imagine being a ghost and seeing that?
The Rogue doesn’t even have to be liked by the others, they can be an utter asshole. And the tradition is still done. And I just think that’s beautiful in a way.
#DCxDP#DPxDC#Prompts#In one timeline we saw it with the first Captain Boomerang I believe#We saw it with Mirror Master (I think) too at one point)#Can you imagine as a ghost seeing something like this#And it doesn’t even have to be their ghost#But just this honoring of this person’s life & giving them one last hurrah#Any ghost would love that- especially if they wondered if anyone would even care about their death
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maid-ster chief
#i drew this as thanks to a friend for buying me a master chief figurine to pose next to my samuses#this takes place in a magical timeline where halo 3 happenef but everything turned out fine enough to do a maid cafe#halo#loneart#master chief#cortana
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Phew! This was an endeavour! But I’ve wanted to draw the twins talking to all the force ghosts we know of for a while now, so here they are.
#star wars#anakin skywalker#leia organa#luke skywalker#master yoda#obi wan kenobi#qui-gon jinn#star wars fanart#obi-wan kenobi#qui gon jinn#skywalker twins#disaster lineage#my art#Anakin is hiding because Leia would punch him ghost or no ghost if she saw him#i have thought about Leia talking to Ben in general and Qui-Gon is just there in my head if Obi-Wan is lol#i went for recognisable rather than timeline accuracy wrt the twins' looks
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Being driven crazy by that Kindred Spirits screenshot (the date is at least three years too early to be accurate). Also, I would have paid good money to actually SEE the "Vlad robs every bank in Wisconsin" flashback.....
#research for girl out of time has me up in arms lol#the woes of building a fanon timeline for a show that put 3 seconds of thought into its character backstories#danny phantom#vlad masters
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The twisting hands of time turn in one direction
And draw us ever toward tomorrow.
[Frankenstein - The Hands of Time]
#aka a Dan design study that got away from me#and turned into a whole scenario#btw has anyone thought of a Dark Danny timeline where Danny KNOWS about Dark Danny#because i have.#danny fenton#vlad masters#my art#danny phantom#the ultimate enemy#dp#dan phantom#Dark Danny#do not tag as ship
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the convoluted doctor who lore gets extra funny when you realize that, at two separate points in the past, two different companions to two different doctors ended up running into rasputin but both came to the conclusion that he was a pretty nice and normal guy. which, depending on how you interpret the power of the doctor, is either a nice subversion of a lot of tropes of stories used in pre-soviet russia, or side-splittingly hilarious as you start imagining the master getting roped into various adventures with different versions of the doctor that he can’t fuck with yet or else he’ll destroy the timeline, forcing him to play nice with the humans as part of his 4D Time Chess Master Disguise Plan #3852
#doctor who#rasputin#in case you’re wondering the companions were#ian chesterton#liz shaw#and#jo grant#who kept explicitly making references to the master throughout the story#but wait it gets better#at one point it was proposed to make a story with this one time lord called the meddling monk#who just decides to start fucking around with the timeline and forces rasputin to listen to boney m#but apparently this actually drives rasputin to the brink on insanity and destroys the entire timeline#forcing the monk to regenerate into rasputin to take his place and live out his life#and that’s why he decided to go by the monk#it was never technically canonized but could you imagine the mindfuck#you have a time lord impersonating another time lord impersonating a normal guy who may or may not have actually existed in the whoniverse#who even knows at this point#the untempered schism didn’t drive the master mad it was a funky disco beat#grigori rasputin#dhawan!master
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I want to read books I want to write more I want to play the piano I want to sing in key I want to delve into fashion history I want to travel I want to publish research papers and I want to become a surgeon and I’m supposed to do all that in this one wild and beautiful life
#Ummm#This is why taking time off before I go to med school is the right call for me there’s sm I want to do constantly but the time!!#This lowkey sucks tho bc ever since I was little I’ve had dreams of writing something profound and being published#Both in a scientific context and also just like in a writing anything profound concept#But ik writing is very high bar and Id have to dedicate time to it and be super serious if I wanna self teach and honestly#Every day Im more and more tempted to just get a lit masters but where is the time if I want to become a doctor!!#Maybe it’ll just be a far fetched dream that I work on on the side bc physicians who’re also authors exist#I j want to contribute something meaningful to this world but to do that ik I have to consume great art first and dissect it and learn from#It#And just like not listen to ppl’s opinions and do what I want but it’s hard when I’m on a timeline#It’s bc I understand none of these vocations are anything to sneeze at and I wanna take them seriously instead of being mediocre at them#Like I truly wanna LEARN but the time management skills are gonna have to go way up#Does anyone understand me or am I having an unnecessary meltdown
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While broken bonds mend, some things never change.
@krazycat6167 helped workshop the joke.
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#references are life#digital art#comic#humor#overwatch hanzo#overwatch fanart#overwatch art#overwatch 2#overwatch#hanzo shimada#genji shimada#overwatch genji#overwatch fancomic#fanart#Genji is out for blood#Hanzo is trying#in his own way#Blizzard writes Hanzo like he’s in his 50s#And Genji like he is in his late 20s early 30s#But the timeline doesn’t line up that way…#Hanzo started getting grey hairs when he was 14#He has never recovered since#siblings#Genji is the student of thr ultimate sass master zenyatta after all
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#john 117#halo#master chief#masterchiefedit#pablo schreiber#pabloschreiberedit#silver timeline#halo tv#halo tv show#halotvedit#halo season 2#halo series
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Birds of a Feather previous / next
#birds of a feather#felix culpa#marinette dupain cheng#chat blanc#master fu#nathalie sancoeur#my art#feralnette au#marinette regrets not being able to stay in that timeline to make sure chat would recover#bunnix said the lucky charm worked and saved the timeline#but she didnt get to see him for herself#so to her the chat that was chat blanc#is different than her chat#its another black cat she failed to save#its the easiest way her brain compartmentalizes what happened
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Prompt 79
When Pariah was awoken from his slumber, he wasn’t exactly expecting it. One was never expecting to awaken when they were supposed to be sealed for eternity after all. He also wasn’t expecting for the reason the sarcophagus was even opened to be a pair of literal infants. A pair of very sick infants.
One was a newborn ancient for Realms’ sake! Two years dead, if that, and the other- Where was their guardian?! Who had let an obsession get that bad?! How long had he been sealed away that no one had caught an obsession turning toxic and harmful towards a ghostling?!
Why was he even sealed inside this area of the zone?! Why had his Keep been moved in the center of one of the zones where ghostlings formed?! He’d never harm a ghostling, but if he’d been any madder (And he knows he had lost it near the end there, that he’d gone too far as he cracked under the weight of the Realms, he’d had an eternity to realize) it would have been a catastrophe!
Who has been in charge, the observants!? … What the fuck, that was supposed to be rhetorical! No! They’re good for paperwork but they seem to have failed even at that and- what do you mean they’ve sealed Clockwork away?!
The already traumatized Time Primordial who was in this type of area specifically to care for ghostlings, and was now being prevented?! How long has this been going on- No! He’s fixing his realms-damned kingdom before he even thinks about conquering other ones, because who the fuck let it get this bad!
Pspsps, here little sick ghostlings, he’s trying very hard not to hurt you but you are very tiny and he has been locked away for a long time so please stop squirming…
#danny phantom#prompts#pariah dark#look if the phandom has decided that 100 years is the equivalent of 18 for ghosts#Vlad is like a 3 to 4 years old with a terrible infection and feral out in the woods#Danny is a itty bitty 1 year old *if that* but baby ancients are so rare#like look at Danny's rogues#they're all very modern and like 30 at most#Pariah is the ancient of Darkness#Pariah gets shocked out of his Gonna Go Conquer mode when the first thing he sees is a pair of literal infants who are all sickly#If we wanna go DC crossover part of Clockwork could be Kronos & he was traumatized after getting those memories#Everyone in the know is Pissed at the observants for trying to force a ghost already traumatized by similar things to End a child#He might be behind Pariah getting out without the Observants realizing#Very desperate and hiding this single timeline from them as best he can#DcxDp#DPxDC#If someone tries to summon Pariah they're either going to get a note saying no or the king with like 5 ghostlings on child leashes#vlad plasmius#Vlad masters#danny fenton#ellie phantom#dan phantom#Pariah is screaming because that is 4 baby halfas alone who are incredibly sick#That's not even getting started on the rest of the area who hasn't gotten taken care of thx to the observants#If DCxDP crossover he's going have an aneurism about the Pits and lil baby reaper ghostling Jason#And everything else going on there
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MASTERS OF THE AIR | Buck & Bucky ↳ partings and reunions [insp]
#masters of the air#mota#motaedit#clegan#buck x bucky#gale cleven#john egan#tuseririna#simizone#ronsparky#userbells#my gif#really wanted to do a timeline of sorts for them#because this whole show is basically about their journey#22 blended gifs later this might be one of my favorite sets i’ve ever made
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this got me almost 80 comments of people arguing on Instagram, personally I think it's so iconic of him to cause all this mess about him I love him and will defend him forever
#doctor who#spymaster#the master#sacha dhawan if you can hear me....#master timeline argument#thoschei#dhawan master
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