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so, I got asked what's the spymaster timeline argument and why do I argue about it so much and keep defending spymaster lol so I wrote a long ass thing that I want to share with you.
SO. there are different arguments for people I argue with
1. having the master back as evil ruins Missy's arc and they hate him
2. having the master back as evil doesn't make sense after missy but would make sense before missy
3. They just fucking hate him god knows why.
4. A mix of these
Now. I have strong opinions, and those strong opinions are that I don't have a problem with dhawan master at all. I think he simply fits in after missy in the most normal way possible. I never saw a problem with it and I find it confusing that people do. Cause?? Imagine dying, then regenerating and realising the doctor has left you alone, but fair, cause he didn't know. So you go on gallifrey, hoping he shows up. While you're there you start hacking into the matrix for fun, cause you're the master and you like having a bit of fun. You discover horrible things. The doctor is not who they think they are, the time lords are not what you thought they were and all of your species including yourself is a product of the doctor's DNA.
This places the doctor as some kind of god. The origin of the time lords. They weren't time lords before the doctor, just gallifreyans, with no real power or anything to make them important. He's simultaneously angry at the time lords for lying about their identity, and at the doctor for being the most important time lord of them all, for being THE time lord, the original. Ultimately, for being more than him.
Now. The master has a certainty during the entirety of the show. The doctor is his equal, they have opposite moralities, but they're equals. Now, the security in this statement he believed in all his life shatters. They're not equals. He is who he is only because of the doctor. Thinking back to missy, she was the regeneration that absolutely wanted the doctor to see her as equal as well. She wanted to be like the doctor cause she missed him, and felt like he was the only one like her. So she tried to be like him, she accepted to be imprisoned in a vault and basically be changed to have the same beliefs of the doctor. But she did it willingly. Cause she wanted them to be the same. Now this entire arc feels wrong to the master (dhawan) , cause now he knows he could never be like the doctor, how could he? The doctor is much more. He thinks missy was his biggest mistake, he humiliated himself to be something he could never be. He gets out of the matrix and throws a tantrum, killing everyone on the planet for having lied to him (and to the doctor). When he sees the doctor again he hates her. He hates her cause she's just there, being her usual self, while in reality she has a bigger role in everything than she could ever think. He hates her cause a part of her is in him, and that means he's less. He's lesser than her. I also remember one scene where he was like "did I ever apologise for that?" (I don't remember what) And she was like "no" and him "good". I think about it often in relation to missy, cause he was definitely saying it because of her. Why any other master should have apologised for something? Only missy was apologising for stuff she did. It might be a big reach but I like to think it's about her. And he's like "good" cause he regrets being missy and trying to redeem himself, like I said before. Anyway the follow up from here is simple, he hates her and stuff, but he also feels bad not letting her know why. So then he decides to show her her story, all he can. No one should live without knowing their origins. so he shows her, and then he says he would like to show her more, but there's nothing else to show. It's the only moment in which he's doing something kind for her. Cause I believe in some way, he's also mad at the time lords for lying to the doctor. And here's part of why he decides to use their dead bodies in such an unworthy way. They have to pay not only with their life but also with their dignity, so he turns them into cybermasters.
This is also a way to cope and create his own race, to feel a little more on the doctor's level. She created the time lords, he destroyed them and created another species with their bodies. Then it's not enough and he decides that the only way to be equals is to become her. At this point he's gone completely insane, like, we see that. But it's totally understandable for him to act that way. His whole worldview changes. Everything he believed in is not true anymore. He doesn't know who he is anymore (I also just thought about this identity crisis he was having and how he stole Rasputin's identity, but this is an analysis for another day).
Anyway this got off topic cause I had to explain only the missy/dhawan thing but then started talking about dhawan in general so forgive me lol.
Other than this, if we take big finish in consideration there's the lumiat, that comes between missy and dhawan and her story really helps some people accepting the change (for some people it's still not enough though) and in the 2021 annual is confirmed that dhawan comes after missy, as we have the doctor and the master talking about the master's story from delegado to dhawan and thirteen says "I quite liked you as missy" and he replies that she spent too much time with him and it's something that should never happen again.
anyway. I've made my point on why the missy -> spymaster regeneration simply makes sense. It's just a normal timeline, I don't know why people think it doesn't work
#some of these people just don't understand the master overall or don't consider missy the same as the master#which is a thing for another day cause i see too many of yall treating her like shes not the master#missy could be the most mischaracterised master of them all i think#spymaster#dhawan master#the master#the master doctor who#doctor who#sacha dhawan#sacha dhawan if you can hear me....#spydoc#twissy#missy#missy doctor who#thoschei#character analysis#master timeline argument#the master timeline#missy -> spymaster
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BRING SACHA BACK IM GOING INSANE
what does it mean. what does it all mean.
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thoschei moment. twin celestial bodies on a collision course, two beings as powerful as gods sowing carnage in their wake: as one incessantly searches and creates, the other desperately ruins and destroys. they orbit one another for all eternity but even the slightest touch would bring about mutual annihilation. whenever one is imprisoned the other frees them from their cage fully conscious of the damage it will cause and both have left their home planet in ashes. they can never be together the consequences would be disastrous they can never be apart it always culminates in catastrophe. the impossible magnetic force pushing them together and pulling them away is locked in place forever as they burn through the vacuum of space
#can you hear me#thoschei#dw#jamie catches up#doctor who#spydoc#jamie.txt#doctor who meta#twissy#tensimm#best enemies#thirteenth doctor#thirteen#dhawan!master#jodie whittaker#sacha dhawan#doctor who series 12
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'Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon... now "The One Who Waits" appears to be joining the ranks of Doctor Who story arcs teased by writer/showrunner Russell T Davies.
The Giggle ā the third and last of the show's 60th anniversary specials ā saw the Doctor (David Tennant) once again face off with old foe The Toymaker (now played by Neil Patrick Harris).
The events of previous episode Wild Blue Yonder saw the Doctor unwittingly allow the Toymaker ā an elemental force who exists beyond the rules of the universe ā entry into our universe.
In The Giggle, the cruel Toymaker was able to provoke the Doctor into challenging him to a game ā as the two prepared to match wits, the villain taunted the Time Lord with tales of his accomplishments.
"I came to this universe with such delight," he said. "I played them all, Doctor ā I toyed with supernovas, turned galaxies into spinning tops, I gambled with God and made him a jack-in-the-box."
We even discover that The Master ā last played by Sacha Dhawan in last year's The Power of the Doctor ā fell foul of the Toymaker, losing a game to the villain and ending up trapped, apparently for all eternity.
But then, the Toymaker makes a confession: "There's only one player I didn't dare face ā The One Who Waits.
"I saw it, hiding, and I ran."
The Doctor attempts to question the Toymaker further, but he shrugs off his earlier comments, telling his nemesis: "That's someone else's game."
So who is The One Who Waits?
The Toymaker is established as having power almost without limit, able to manipulate the atoms of the universe and conjure up his own magical domain ā in The Giggle, we saw a shaken Doctor uncertain if he'll be able to best his enemy once again.
The fact then that, whoever or whatever they are, The One Who Waits is capable of striking fear into the heart of the Toymaker is pretty terrifying. Could an even more powerful being exist in the Whoniverse?
Interestingly, in a social media post made in October, the official Doctor Who account appeared to refer to the Toymaker himself as "the one who waits" ā but it's made clear in The Giggle that he's referring not to himself but to some other figure.
Of course, the Toymaker isn't the only all-powerful, ever-living being to exist in the worlds of Doctor Who...
Making their debut in the 1983 story Enlightenment, the Eternals are a race of elemental beings of immense power, capable of manipulating matter and creating objects out of thin air.
These amoral creatures act purely for their own amusement, manipulating "Ephemerals" (read: mortal beings) for fun.
Then there are the Guardians, who first appeared in Doctor Who's 16th season in 1978, a series of interlinked stories which saw the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) on a quest to find the legendary Key to Time.
Transcendental beings who embodied aspects of the universe, immortal and indestructible, we met the White Guardian (Cyril Luckham) ā who represented light, order and structure ā and his eternal opponent the Black Guardian (Valentine Dyall) ā the personification of darkness, entropy and chaos.
Most recently, 2020 episode Can You Hear Me? saw the Doctor (Jodie Whittaker) and friends lured into a trap by Zellin (Ian Gelder), an immortal "god" who was haunting the dreams of humans, all to feed his beloved Rakaya (Clare-Hope Ashitey).
Could one of these creatures, or something like them, be "The One Who Waits"?
It's also possible, of course, that Russell T Davies has invented an entirely new menace. In the episode The Star Beast, The Meep (voiced by Miriam Margolyes) revealed itself to be in the employ of a figure it referred to as "the boss".
David Tennant later admitted that he remains oblivious to the identity of "the boss", which suggested that this reveal would be held back until Ncuti Gatwa's time in the TARDIS.
The Meep's admission and the Toymaker's confession in The Giggle could be the start of something much larger and entirely unexpected...'
#David Tennant#Doctor Who#The Star Beast#Wild Blue Yonder#Russell T. Davies#The Meep#Miriam Margolyes#Ncuti Gatwa#The Giggle#60th Anniversary#Neil Patrick Harris#The Toymaker#The Master#Sacha Dhawan#The Power of the Doctor#Can You Hear Me?#Zellin#Bad Wolf#Torchwood#Saxon#the Eternals#Enlightenment#The Guardians#Tom Baker
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Not sure if this has been said before, and it's been a while since I watched the episode, but do we think the warring planets The Master takes Yaz to visit are the same ones from Can You Hear Me?
#but thats just a theory#A GAME THEORY#doctor who#bbc doctor who#the master#sacha dhawan#bbc#dhawan!master#sacha!master#spymaster#the power of the doctor#can you hear me
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sometimes opinions are "controversial" for a reason...
Controversial opinion: Dhawan!Master is a boring and unnecessary story arc.
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Michelle Gomez and Sacha Dhawan Panel
Please note this IS NOT word for word, but so you can get a general gist of the panel. Both Michelle and Sacha were soooooo hilarious.
Whovians of all ages got to ask both of them questions.
This post is just Michelleās and Sachsās part of the panel there is a seperate post for Michelleās panel and Sachaās panel will be up in the next couple days!
Shouting from the backā¦
Sacha: Oh so boring!
Michelle: security, security!
Sacha walk to the stage
Michelle : Sacha Dhawan everyone!
Sacha: I was standing up the back and I thoughtā¦ this is so boringā¦
(in a bad Scottish accent) āoh me and Peter Capaldiā
Michelle: laughing hard (canāt understand what sheās saying)
Sacha sitting down hugging Michelle
Sacha: so how are you?
Michelle: oh you know between here to hellish
Sacha: I thought I would join you
Michelle: if you thought it was boring then youāre gonna think itās really boring now. Ok 2 for the price of 1
Moderator: I feel like a 3rd wheelā¦ next question
Questioner: Green wing and the book club were on when I was young, do you take responsibility for warping a generation of millennials?
Michelle: yes, yes I do. Iāve landed myself in shows that are a little different.
Questioner: Missy has her own Audio series what was it like having her as the main character?
Michelle: well obviously itās great to not have to put up with other people, lol. Itās brilliant because it keeps me connected to a world that I was thrilled to be part of and itās a laugh because I live in NY and they record in London, so Iām in a booth in NY by myself.
Moderator walks off stageā¦ feels like a 3rd wheel
Sacha takes over from the Moderator
Sacha: Alright letās ask some real questions now!
Michelle: laughing again canāt understand what sheās saying
Moderator from the question line on the floor: long time watcher first time asker (room is laughing hysterically at this point) in green wing in your office after everyone has left there was scenes of you or you character doing some amazing weird and wonderfulā¦ disturbing things, who came up with that concept that your character is doing these obscure boarder line illegal things?
Michelle: I think at that point I was still learning how to be a professional so I was still feral at that point and they would lock the camera off in my office and then let me fuck around.
Questioner: Hi Michelleā¦. First of all Sacha donāt come for my girl, bro,
Sacha: yes I love it
Questioner: Iām MÄori bro Iāll see you in the parking lot
Sacha: I love itā¦ god itās turning me on
Questioner: Fuck that wasā¦
Crowd laughing hysterically canāt hear
Questioner: Whatās the best acting advice youāve been given throughout your career?
Michelle: if youāre serious about it donāt ever give up, thereās so much rejection, and it took me so long to get where I am today. Surround yourself with like minded people. And go to the theatre I feel like the real education is on stage.
Questioner: What was it like bringing a comedic edge to such a scary character in the flight attendant?
Iām classically trained and I did an Epsom play not known for it comedic tendencies, and the review came out and said Michelle Gomez plays one of the funniest performances in the Master Builder by Epsom, and I was like WHAT? I was quite offended, I donāt know Iām being funny is my answer to your question. Miranda in flight attendant was not meant to be funny she was meant to be very scary, thank you. (Laughing)
Questioner: Sacha when I was in line for my photo I asked about the Rasputin dance and you said you were saving it, is now the time?
Sacha: is it the time? You know when I did the dance I thought it was written in the scriptā¦ but it wasnāt and for some reason I thought it said āthe master dancesā I realise now everyone who was there that day must have been thinking āwhat is he doing?ā I donāt think Iāll be able to bust those moves out again. I remember we had 5 minutes to shoot that scene and under pressure itās amazing what shapes you throw, I remember not being able to walk the next day.
Question asker: I think thatās the best Master moment to dateā¦ both cheers and boos from the audience, and a lot of laughter.
Sacha in a deep voice: Come here my boy
Michelle in a little voice: mmmk? (About the comment not coming to Sacha)
Questioner: Iām just wondering if itās true you and Sacha are going to do a spin off called the Masters? (Please note the answer was in jest!)
Michelle:Umā¦ ohā¦ deny deny denyā¦ um maybe š¤·ā¦ā¦ā¦.. You heard it here firstā¦ maybe.
Questioner: Sacha I was wondering how it felt when you replaced Jodie Whittaker?
Sacha: ahhhhā¦
Michelle: oh fuckā¦
Sacha: weāll I knew about it
Michelle: oh he knew about it (The love/hate flirting they do is comedy gold, the chemistry is on point)
Sacha: I knew it was going to happen a couple months before and before I played the Master I always thought Iād love to play the Doctor, Iād love to be able to do it. But obviously being the Master I thought thereās no way Iād ever be the Doctor so it was amazing that the opportunity came up and I LOVED IT. But I did realise the Doctor has way to much pressure, the Master can come in mess things up then leave because I donāt have to worry about the mess but the Doctor then has to clean it up, so as much as it was nice doing it for a bit I was happy to give it back to Jodie.
Questioner: What are your next projects?
Michelle: We have a strike at the moment so nothing.
Sacha: Iāve got a show coming out in the UK called Wolf itās a dark detective series with a a black comedy element to it it comes out in July I think
Michelle: and are you playing a Wolf?
Sacha (side eyeing Michelle): no, lol
Questioner: This is for both of you last time Missy interacted with a master it was the simm!master
Michelle: oh yeah š
Questioner: They had an interesting dynamic my question is what do you think the dynamic between your Masters would be like?
Michelle: youāll have to watch and see (again this was in jestā¦ maybe letting us know to message RTD more to get on it! Lol)
Sacha: I think itās going to be very sexual, the Master is a little bit in love with himself so
Michelle: oh my godā¦ okā¦ oh yeah it would be dead sexy
Sacha: and slightly violent
Michelle: what is wrong with youā¦š ok honey š
Questioner: If your 2 Masters were on scene together what chaos do you think they would get up to that isnātā¦ that? (Again the answer is in jest)
Michelle: Youāll have to watch and see I donāt think you understand youāre getting an exclusive here. What would we get up to? Hmmmā¦ you understand weāre actors we donāt really say the cruel stuff thatās written for us.
Sacha: what chaos would you like to see us get up to?
Questioner: I donāt knowā¦ kidnapping the Doctor doing crazy stuffā¦
Michelle: oh thatās what you mean, oh right yes, I see what you mean, so Iād stick him in a trunk and drive him to Paris and weād have lunch and then weād let the Doctor out and heād have to get his own way home, and then weād travel back in time and weāll take you with us and weāll go to the 1920s and we would be in Jazz club.
Questioner: what mundane superpower would you have?
Michelle: I hate emptying the dishwasher, I donāt mind loading it, but I donāt like rinsing that annoys me too so anything to do with the dish washer. Dishes are dumb.
Someone in the crowd; get Sacha to do it
Moderator: you know they donāt live together? Laughing
Sacha: after a night out when Iām a little drunk and I need to get home, in London getting home is a nightmare so if I could just click my fingers and be in bed
Michelle: whose bed?
Laughing so loud canāt hear what is said
Questioner: Which other masters have you meet in real life?
Sacha: I worked with Derek Jacobi, but Iāve not met anyone else, I did try following John Simm on instagram but he didnāt follow me back, that was a bit awkward
Moderator pointing at Michelle covertly trying to remind Sacha that heās met her now
Sacha: oh yeah weāve met (looking at Michelle)
Michelle: ummmā¦ I did a season with John Simm, so you got 2 for the price of 1 thereā¦ I like to mess about a little bit between takes, and I thought this was very funnyā¦ John didnātā¦ I got someone from catering to get me a pear and I stuck it down my top, cos he had to go down and get a locket and so he pulled out the pearā¦ because I have a lovely pearā¦
Questioner: thatās awesome
Michelle: I thought so.
Questioner: if you ever get a chance to meet Eric Roberts, he just came to Armageddon, I could have looked in his eyes all day long, I hope you get to meet him one day too.
Sacha: I just realised I did meet Eric Roberts actually (crowd laughs at his inability to remember the Masters heās met)
Questioner: did could you look in his eyes all day
Sacha: no, but heās very handsome and super lovely as well.
Moderator: did you know he had played the Master?
Sacha: I do nowā¦ (laughing) no I did, I did know (crowd is skeptical, Michelle looking off going lalalalala)
Questioner: With you Michelle we had our first female master and then with you Sacha our first non white Master, and then it feels like the Doctor is just copying you now that we had a woman Doctor and now a non white Doctor. How does it feel that the Doctor is just copying the Master now?
Sacha: I think not necessarily just with me as the Master or with Jodie, I think being part of Doctor who this time around it felt like the show creates some extreme worlds but it keeps an eye on whatās going on in the world generally and I think thatās, Iām really proud to be a part of it in that way. Iāve mentioned earlier I wanted to be part of the whoniverse maybe years earlier but actually being part of it this time round felt right and I kind of, even though I have some extreme storylineās with Jodie about Gallifrey, I donāt know, I always thought about what was going on in the world and I think the show reflects that and I wanted to reflect that in my performance as well so I feel immensely proud about that.
Michelle: similarly for me it really felt like it was time to shake things up, why canāt the master be a woman? Be a mistress? And I felt like I got a lot of love from the transgender community and I get it, I understand it, like being an Uber nerd growing up and not feeling like I fit in, so I felt like I was paying homage to that in a big way. It felt like it was time, like it was current. Steven Moffatt always said it was the best person for the job at the time it didnāt matter (if it was a man or a woman)
*Coming soonā¦ there will be a part 3 with Sachaā¦ I just donāt have time to post now as Iām heading back home from this iconic trip, so Sachas panel will be a couple days away and Part 1 with just Michelle is already up.
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Letās just say our little spy master isnāt afraid let his feminine self shine, lol. They have a really funny and flirty chemistry together.
They were sat next to each other at the autograph tables with a volunteer between each actor, Sacha and the volunteer swapped spots so Sacha and Michelle could sit next to each other where Michelle proceed to write on posit notes and throw them at him, and they were quiet funny together sitting there.
#sacha dhawan#michelle gomez#dhawan!master#gomez!master#gomez!missy#missy#the master#master#spymaster#13th doctor#thirteenth doctor#thirteen#13#12th doctor#12#twelth doctor#twelve
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To give my general 13 Who feelings since I asked:
Ryan was my favorite Chibnall era companion though I suspect Tosin probably felt pretty burned by lack of material and hope he's on to better things that make him happier. He's quite a good actor IMO. Makes a lot of interesting choices when left to the background.
Dan and Graham were both quite charming but just not character types I need from stories right now. Dan also really suffered from not getting, like, any breathing room as a character. It ends up feeling like after Brian Williams, Chibnall needed a comfort older white dude in the TARDIS.
Yaz I like on paper but never felt like she got the focus or exploration the many interesting things about her deserved. Can You Hear Me was a very clever retcon to explain her lack of material in series 11 in addition to being poignant though it does totally change her from the character introduced in Woman Who Fell to Earth.
I like the idea of the Timeless Child and the opportunities it offers and relate a surprising amount to the whole forgotten child childhood trauma questions about identity, but think it stalled on examining that after the quite underrated Once, Upon Time.
Sacha Dhawan is a superb actor who elevated a lot but I did not care at all for the direction the Master was taken in. The lack of acknowledgment of Missy was painful, the Nazi stuff doubly so, and the redestriction of Gallifrey just annoying.
Jodie Whittaker is wonderful and very Doctory. I wish she could have played more range though and really wanted to see her play a fuller relationship plot because I love the Doctor in that kind of thing and think she'd have nailed it.
Loved the sonic. Didn't love the TARDIS. Liked series 12, apart from Spyfall part 2. Thought Resolution and Eve of the Daleks were fantastic. Complicated feelings about Flux and how it all in my view fell apart (well documented that Chibnall wrote it while it went and it shows). Thought series 11 was the right idea but didn't think it was good enough overall.
Really enjoyed writers like Vinay Patel, Ed Hime, Joy Wilkinson, Maxine Alderton, and Nina Metivier contributing, and even controversially Pete McTighe, though I wish they got a bit more polish the way RTD or Moffat added sparkle to their guest writers. It's probably not fair to expect Chris Chibnall to meet the dialogue crispness of two of the best living British TV writers who proceeded him. It's not that he's bad, but Moffat and Davies are really special talents on that front and a tough act to follow.
Thought the best director of the era was Nida Manzoor and hope they get her back. Also loved Wayne Yip again but sounds like he didn't love doing it.
Some episodes and elements I really liked but overall the era of modern Who I'm coolest on. Still would take it over several classic runs any day.
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okay!! time to finally do doctor who series 12 ranking
1. The Haunting of Villa Diodati (12x8) - it's brilliant. i love the setting, i love the design of the lone cyberman, i love the atmosphere, it's just really great. love jodie in this as well
3. Fugitive of the Judoon (12x5) - i liked it, love jo martin as the fugitive doctor, the scene where she remembers who she is, literally chills, awesome. a really enjoyable episode
2. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror (12x4) - i really love whoever plays tesla, he's great. i like the story and i think it's very nice to watch
4. Spyfall (12x1/12x2) - the first part is genuinely amazing, the reveal that O is the master is great and it's just overall very enjoyable to watch. second part i feel is a bit messy and does too many things at once, also not a fan of the doctor just leaving the master to the n-zis because that's. that's not it. that's not the doctor. same as 10 with harriet jones, i don't think it's very doctor-y to just use the things people can't change, like race or gender, against them. the doctor is better than that, they're cleverer than that
5. Revolution of the Daleks (12x0) - it was pretty mid. cool to have jack in this tho. idk, it has great moments and it has bad moments, but i don't think it's very good
6. Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children (12x9/12x10) - it's a great idea and jodie and sacha dhawan are enjoyable to watch, but it's not very interesting, i mean, the timeless children is practically just the master telling the doctor every single thing and it's just. not good. this is not how you tell a great story. i like the old man whose name i forgot tho lol
7. Praxeus (12x6) - it's a good idea, but i think this episode is quite boring. there's a lot happening and at the same time, very little happens, i feel. but i'm not exactly mad about it, wouldn't rewatch tho
8. Can You Hear Me? (12x7) - again, good idea, bad execution. the beginning felt interesting to me, but it became uninteresting very quickly. i think it was great to explore the fears of our main characters, but it just wasn't very good
9. Orphan 55 (12x3) - it has a decent idea and i respect the message it's trying to send. however, it's shit. it's boring, when it's trying to send it's message about protecting earth, it's painfully on the nose, and it has completely pointless stuff that just takes away from the story. it's just not good at all
there we go then, i'll probably rank flux + specials but that's going to be more difficult because flux is technically 1 story so we'll see how that goes
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So I decided to do some googling on Rasputin just to satisfy my curiosity. While i did so I noticed an ad for the Doctor Who Magazine.
In the latest issue of the Doctor Who magazine we see the master (Sacha Dhawan) dressed like Rasputin (with piercing blue eyes that Rasputin reportedly had)
#i am the master#you will obey me#doctor who#bbc doctor who#the master#doctor who spoilers#doctor who magazine#dhawan!master#sacha dhawan#jodie whittaker#thirteenth doctor#the master is disguised as Rasputin#not a coincidence#why rasputin?#Rasputin hypnotised people#the master can hypnotise people#we might hear him say#i am the master and you will obey me
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Season 12 but The Master kept pretending to be O??
Basically self-indulgent Thoschei with a twist.
lots of typos bc?? i aint got time to go correct stuff yet? I will later??Ā
So Spyfall is resolved, The Kasaavin are banished back to their realm and the Fam and Doctor are clueless as to the true mastermind, Barton taking the fall while the Master continues to pose ad O, having decided heās enjoying the game of tricking her too much.
Perhaps among their texts theyāve grown close, or perhaps the brief time together in the outback led to events?? ;) But either way, he changes his mind mid plan and continues to act human.
Since he never leaves the message or has the confrontation in Paris, the doctor remains unaware of Gallifreyās destruction. The fam wait off on asking their questions since she isnāt off with them.
Orphan 55 happens, and while the fam go do their shit, O stays with the Doctor bc admit it, she was like oh ;-; when everyone went to explore. My poor baby. So they hang out together before everything goes to shit, how cute?? Things get resolved, but with the revelation of one of earthās potential fates, and the potential that the doctor lied about knowing, the fam decide to ask to know more about her. She shares what she believes its true at the time, being born on gallifrey and being a timelord, O looms in the background looking awkward bc he knows none of that is true and he feels horrible keeping the truth from her, it makes him as bad as the rest of the time lords- but he is selfish and he doesnāt want to stop what heās doing, heās started to really enjoy her company, its everything heās ever wanted, every star.
And then itās ruined when Yaz asks to see her own planet. Blissfully unaware of its destruction, she takes them, and so theyāre right there with her when she sees, opens the doors to the rubble, the dying flames- and oh god. The fam are horrified, sheās horrified, O has to fake it, while being utterly glad those nasties are dead- maybe he gets to sneakily comfort hug her??? like sheās trying not to tear up even after that whole shit show of the confession dial, it was her home??so yeah heās like hugging her but heās so angry bc they dont deserve her tears??Ā
The doctor is off after that, and the fam know why, and none of their words of comfort do much, because sure theyāve just witnessed the death of earth too but that is just one timeline, can be completely avoided, while gallifrey is gone forever, and she believes sheās once more the last of her kind. it hurts.
they visit tesla all the same, and when that big ass scorpion looking alien (bc im sorry i didnt like the episode and iāve forgotten her name so....) mentions dead planets, she can feel the fam stiffen, as though the doctor is gonna blow at any minute, but she keeps calm, tries to bury the rage, but O can tell, can tell by the way her arms shake, hands clenched into fists in her pockets- and it hurts him to see her like this- the longer he spends around her, pretending to be someone heās not, heās just realizing more and more what a dumbass he is and that heās still as in love with her now than he was all those years ago in the academy- none of the truth will change that-
and then boom the shit show with the judoon occurs and suddenly O is confused af because that Lee guy could ONLY have been him. Who else on gallifrey was stupid enough to hide out with the doctor, marry them and die for them?? him because heās a dumbass? but heās a dumbass who definitely doesnt remember this memories?? which theoretically in the doctors timeline should have been sometime after the division? or during? heās not sure? but to his knowledge he shouldnāt have been alive at this stage? and now heās not sure what the fuck HIS own life is too? did they take his memories from him too? has he lost part of his life? suddenly the truth doesnt seem as known as he thought- so while the doctor is reeling from the information of Ruth being her somehow? O is having his own mental crisis because what the fuck did they do to him too? what is he missing??Ā
praxeus continues as similar as it did originally, O is only the tiniest impressed at Yaz, ever since Spyfall heād sensed she was the human with the most potential to not be utterly worthless so heās glad at least one of the doctors latest pets seems to have some initiative?? but yeah i dont wanna change much about praxeus? its not important- except the doctor saying sheās a romantic and the master wants that? wait what- heās conflicted about his own thoughts? he wanted to break her, destroy her with the truth? but he also just wants to wrap her in his arms? make everything as okay as he can? what the fuck is even happening with him? jsut your usualĀ āim a messā vibes lmao
when can you hear me? rolls around, it happens in a similar way, i dont wanna get to into it because i dont wanna think too much...the episode was weird, it was just weird-- i cant?? although maybe bc that zellin and the lady whose name i forgot...but they were immortal right?? maybe their species is the doctors species?? huh? huh? think about that- but donāt think too hard bc i hate that theory and iām gonna pretend i never had that thought- lets just ignore can you hear me even though the end made me cry for yaz bc lol relatable sis, relatable. do whatever you want for this bit fam, idc.
Anyyyyyway. the bit Iām waiting for... Villa Diodati ;) O is ready to smack Byron round the face, fingers itching towards the tce everytime he tries to flirt with the doctor. the lone cyberman appears and wopdie doo earth is going to be destroyed and the doctor is about to do something stupid, thinking there is no other way? the master is like um lol change of plans i dont want the cybermen to win, look how in pain my baby theta is?? i gotta help?? oof? and idk, his patience is like nope all gone? and he whips out his TCE on the lone cyberman and boom. crisis averted? except now the doctor is looking at him in horror and shock and- she realizes who he is then and there, and normally heād made a big drama out of his, throw in some words, a speech about how easy it was to deceive her, how he destroyed gallifrey- about how he was under her nose this whole time- but he doesnāt, instead he meets her gaze and can barely manage to whisper anĀ āim sorryā and wow shit i wasnāt gonna write that version, i was gonna have feral confrontation but now im stanning a sad master who just needs a hug and some therapy because nothing makes sense, he thought he had everything figured out but he doesnt and he just wANTS HIS FRIEND BACK uiferkghlujkfaghjfkgladhfajkg; i m fineĀ
i dont know what i wanna do after this point? it could go a lot of different ways?? but thoschei rights bitches. could go angst confrontation and then she abandons him in whatever century that was set bc wow i studied frankenstein in school but i couldnt tell you what century the author is from bc im dumb? 18th? maybe idk that seems likely? or 19th? but anyway yeah or maybe sheās just relieved someone else is alive? or is she shouting for answers or?? i dunno.... but woop ???Ā
wow this turned into a big mess but hopefully you can kinda see where i wanna head with things? after this heād probably show her the truth? i dunno how thatād go down, but heād be there with her?? But anyway, this idea is free for anyone to write, but holla us a link and I'll give yall a free promo at the end of this post!!
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this got me almost 80 comments of people arguing on Instagram, personally I think it's so iconic of him to cause all this mess about him I love him and will defend him forever
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I got so happy when I heard the Master's voice
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Okay so first thoughts after watching Power of the Doctor, featuring some things I screamed while watching (Spoilers):
-start of the episode is a bit clunky but not a terrible reintroduction to the CyberMasters
-Sacha Dhawan absolutely fucking annihilates every scene he's in my god. Goes absolute apeshit nuts. I love it
-THE CLASSIC MASTER LINES
-AAAAAACE!!!!! TEEEEEGAAAAANNN!!!!
-CLASSIC COMPANIONS MY BELOVEDS!
-Dan...:( really got a short end of the stick I feel like. Kind of abrupt. He and Yaz def had a stronger bond so I like they had a nice goodbye but. Man that felt so cut off.
-I bet the Four inside Thirteen felt(tm) that poor Dalek, knowing that it was right that they failed their original purpose to help the Kaleds survive. "That poor Dalek" my god but I did feel so bad :(
-the way Ace calls The Master out on being a catboy cleared my acne, watered my crops, boosted my serotonin
-also the unhinged way The Master was so delighted that the armed troops were for him. Am I gOIng tO UNIT??? You doughnut. Bastard man. I can't help but enjoy watching you chew up every scene!!
-VINDER!!!!
-YAZ FLYING THE TARDIS YAZ FLYING THE TARDIS!!! THE TARDIS LISTENING TO YAZ!!!
-the fucking memes don't even do it justice. The Master fucking blasting Rasputin. Was playing Rasputin just a cover so he could blast this song? I would believe it. It's absolutely 10000% in character.
-oh SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!! DHAWAN!DOCTOR!MASTER???!!
-Don't mind me casually breaking the sound barrier when 5 shows up to Tegan and mentions Adric. A single word. A single name. And I screech loud enough to hear 10 miles away.
-KATE STEWART DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE SURE YOUR PEOPLE ARE OKAY FIRST BEFORE YOU GO ANYWHERE YOU DOUGHNUT!!!!!!!
-Yaz my angel my beloved you rockstar FUCK HIM UP <3
-sidebar Sacha Dhawan rocks in 13's outfit (and maybe that's why the Beeb was afraid of DT in it...too much power š). And then that fucking mismatch. The SWEATER. I CAN'T.
-8 ILYSM bb your sass always appreciated. Bonus, CLASSIC DOCTORS BABEY!!!
-sideside note. Sentient energy creature thing? Cool af. Wish we got a tad bit more time exploring that but only so much time alas.
-Yaz you brilliant love. And VINDER!!! I'M FREELANCE!!! HELL YEAH YOU ARE GET HIS ASS!!!!
-RUTH FUGITIVE DOCTOR HELLO BB YOU SLAY EVEN AS A HOLOGRAM
-dont make me go back to being me ow wow that actually hurt a bit, and that's how this Master does actually come from Missy
-ACE!!!!!!! SEVEN!!!! AND GRAHAM!!!! GRAHAM BOY!!!!!!! HELLO!!! SHOW EM HOW YOU DID IT IN 1963!
-you made Adric proud Tegan....even if he would be too much of a little shit to say so off the bat, he'd be proud of you....
-Kate's point to herself. That "me?" Moment. My god. Did no one ever take her in the TARDIS? (Stares at 11 and 12)
-Using the Master's TARDIS against his plan (again), excellent. Actual solving of the whole CyberMasterDalek plan? A little shaky. But I'll allow it. Thanks to "a bit crowded. Just how I like it" 13. Honey. Are we having Journey's End flashbacks and missing all your friends in a TARDIS? :( is this a sign
-oof fuck ow ouch I half expected her to be sliced in half with that ray beam but fjdgkd watching too much Vox Machina lately and forgot for a sec that BBC would never be that brutal and I'm glad--
-because we got the CARRY!!! THE LIFT!!! THEM!!!!!!
-hi can you hear the sound of my heart breaking into one million pieces seeing Yaz finally start crying after being so brave and put together through everything. Knowing after everything she STILL loses her Doctor. I'm not okay. I'm not okay!!!!!!! I want more time with her too Yaz!!!! Right here with you!!!!
-"i loved being with you, Yaz" don't!! Mind!! Me!! Screaming crying throwing up!!!!
-still could have at least kissed her hand but. Mmmmmmm the way they look at each other. The way they both acknowledged the love they feel. But Chibnall and BBC are still cowards.
-classic companions!!!!!!!!! Way to bring back the OG holy fuck
-Dan sitting in a room as the newest companion with one of the FIRST companions. Iconic.
-"Look after the next one" HONEY!!!! I'M NOT READY!!!!!
-"Tag, you're it" WHAT A LINE. WHAT A LAST LINE. I'M STILL NOT READY BUT GOD DAMN.
-!and that sunrise regeneration shot!!! Absolutely fucking breathtaking!!!! In tears!!!
-aaannnd then the twist. Clothes regen def throws me a sign that This Is Wrong. We saw MULTIPLE REGENS here my dudes and clothes did not change. This is Important.
- Also fuck off RTD, respectfully, but DT is not Fourteen. He doesn't get to have two whole numbered lives after *everything else he got already.* Fourteen is Ncuti thank you the fuck much. He was announced first, and we all celebrated him as 14 first. So there.
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Why I love Sacha Dhawan as the Master #56: The faces he makes when he zaps the Doctor!
The list is BAAAAAACK, folks! Now that gifs of The Power of the Doctor are appearing, itās time to continue my illustrated list of reasons I love the Spymaster!
In no particular order, here is an illustrated list of reasons I love Sacha Dhawanās Master, most of which boil down to the way that Sacha Dhawan so expertly embodies the Master to such a degree that we can look Ā into this characterās mind as we never have before.
Find my full series under the HELP I WUVS HIM tag or at the why I love Dhawan Master tag.
#56: The faces that he makes when he zaps the Doctor!
Crying in sadness, humiliation, and pain. I feel like Thirteen is saying, "You lost this contest," but he's hearing it as, "You lost me."
Focusing on the Doctor's message -- that he's dying.
Zeroing in on the Doctor with some direct, heartsfelt, serious eye contact.
Looking at his TCE, apparently feeling some grief [?] over what he's about to do.
He's just so tired here, the shadows under his eyes almost black, his body quivering with the effort of holding it together. He's gritting his teeth as he shoots the Doctor, but this seems to be less a sneer of contempt and more him grinding his teeth with the effort that this last motion takes.
In this scene, the Spymaster feels control, life, and the Doctor slipping away from him. He knows that, because his body is "failing," he's dying and regenerating. He thinks that his time at the Spymaster is at an end, so he makes a power play and forces regeneration, but now it's Thirteen's. He hopes that they'll die at the same time. They'll end these selves simultaneously. The Doctor may be leaving him, but, if she's going down too, just like the Spymaster, they will, in some fucked up way, be together. Maybe then she'll know what it's like to be him. [Spoiler: She will not, in fact, know what it's like to be him.]
God, and I thought he looked devastated and overcome in The Timeless Children. Nope, he's achieving new lows of desperation here. šš„ŗš¢š
Sometimes I think that at least 15% of the Spymaster's seething pain would resolve if he showered regularly, did laundry, ate regular meals, and slept a decent amount.
Massive props to Sacha Dhawan for making the Master's psychic turmoil exquisitely obvious through the meticulous transparency of his expressive, mobile face!
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