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✨My (maybe) Unpopular Heroes of Olympus Opinions✨
(maybe part one??? idk)
-I don’t really ship any of the main canon ships in HoO. None of them had any chemistry and most of them are either pedophilic, forced and rushed, or toxic in some way
-Most of the characters that were shoved into relationships (Leo, Nico, and Hazel especially) really did not need a love interest to complete their character arcs and their relationships ended up boring and flat cause Riordan just wanted everyone to have a love interest and it never went deeper than the skin
-Piper took advantage over Jason’s amnesiac state and manipulated him. She really went ‘But what if he has a girlfriend he can’t remember 👉👈 it would be wrong to start a relationship with him while he still has amnesia 👉👈 and cause it was based off lies and fake memories 👉👈 lmao imma just jump all over him and make him fall for me while he’s still amnesiac 🤪’ as if that’s not taking advantage over someone’s mental state
-And then she blamed her relationship being forced on Aphrodite and Hera saying they ‘forced her into a relationship’ and ‘arranged their relationship’ even though Aphrodite never said anything about or did anything to them and Hera gave Piper fake memories of them being a couple but it was Piper’s conscious choice to act out on those memories she knew were fake and her relationship was in no way influenced by anyone (especially Hera and Aphrodite) other than herself
-Shelper and Solangelo were way too rushed and forced (inside and outside of the books) and were only added for publicity, plus it seems like most of the fandom only like them cause they’re LGBTQ+ ships
-I hate Pipeyna and Pipabeth. My girls (especially Reyna) deserve better than some manipulative little girl who went ‘we were friends? no weren’t ❤️’
-The fandom portrays the characters really inaccurately (tweaking them a bit for humor is fine, but changing their entire personality is a different thing)
-The movies actually aren’t that bad when not compared to the books (I mean, you gotta admit- it’s pretty good effects for 2010)
-And speaking of the movies, they did a better job at portraying Thalia and Annabeth’s relationship in one movie than Riordan did in 5+ books
-Speaking of which, Riordan wrote pretty much every platonic friendship that weren’t Thalia/Nico and Reyna horribly and most of them shouldn’t have been friends and wasted all the potential for the good friendships
-Calypso should’ve joined the Hunters, not Reyna
-Annabeth and Piper are horrible friends lmao (separately and together)
-Silena is a hero and deserves redemption, but Luke doesn’t despite most of the fandom agreeing he does (he was a pedophile y’all)
-The fandom over-exaggerated the Tartarus fall, it wasn’t really that bad tbh
-Reyna is stronger and a better leader than Annabeth
-Annabeth’s intelligence is more tell than show (and quite a few characters including Leo, Reyna, and Octavian have shown more intelligence than her)
-Riordan over-glorifies and overpowers Percy way too much. Just cause he’s the main character doesn’t mean he has to be the best of the best after barely 8 months of training (four years at CHB only in the summers is 8 months total)
-Speaking of which, Jason can beat Percy (8 months versus Jason’s twelve years) and so can Annabeth, Reyna, Thalia, Hylla, Luke, Hazel and maybe Frank and Nico. Percy’s skill is overrated and unrealistic
-And I feel like most of the fandom knows that Jason can beat Percy but just doesn’t want to admit it cause they like Percy more
-Same thing with the Greeks and Romans- the majority know the Romans are stronger and can easily beat the Greeks but they don’t want to believe it cause they favor the Greeks more
-Percy and Annabeth shouldn’t have been part of the Seven, they already had their chance to shine. Riordan should’ve brought minor characters into light instead
-And Piper shouldn’t have been part of the Seven either. Riordan really expects me to believe that she’s stronger, more powerful, and a greater/better hero and deserved to be part of the Seven more than Reyna, Nico, Clarisse, Thalia, etc.?
-Riordan’s women line-up of Reyna, Annabeth, Hazel, and Piper was really cheap and boring (Avengers: Endgame women line-up who?)
-Percy (in HoO) and Piper are easily some of the worst, most underdeveloped characters Riordan has ever written
-Annabeth got really bland and weak in HoO and couldn’t do shit for herself without others (especially newbies) having to help and/or save her. She pretty much became exclusively Percy fangirl
-As much as I like them, Frank and Hazel don’t have what it takes to be Praetors and Reyna and Jason should’ve stayed as them
-Jason’s whole ‘am I more Greek or Roman’ arc was dumb af
-Riordan’s bias towards the Romans is also dumb af (the Romans could beat the Greeks in an instant)
-Jeyna is and always will be 1000x better than Jiper
-Hazel is the most powerful demigod (way more than Percy and even Jason)
-My hot take on who should’ve been the Seven: Reyna, Nico, Thalia, Frank, Hazel, Leo, and Clovis (son of the god of sleep puts Gaea back to sleep who?)
-Riordan confirming Piper bi was a cheap move to make her more likable. It didn’t even make any sense. A character is confirmed LGBT only after they become a minor character despite being a main character before and kisses some random unnamed girl only three months after her ex-boyfriend whom she still loved dies??? girl what??? Kinda obvious it was just for publicity. Like- Riordan, honey, the LGBTQ+ community is not a circus you can plop your characters into to make them more entertaining❤️
-The PJ series as a whole isn’t that creative. It’s legit just a copy of exactly what past mythological figures have already done and a bunch of character tropes and clichés shoved into one book
-And in general it’s not even that well-written (like HP, it’s over-exaggerated a lot)
-All of the romantic relationships and platonic friendships are extremely unrealistic. Like they never argue/fight, disagree, etc. (then grow stronger from those fights) at all??? Even if they’re complete opposites???
-Reyna is the best-written character in the whole series and a queen she deserved better and y’all sit on her too much
-Theyna is ✨amazing✨ their dynamic and chemistry was just *mwah Pansexual Muslim blessings to you* and people are allowed to ship them even though they’re Hunters and swore off love
-Rachel doesn’t deserve all the hate she gets. Y’all hate on her cause she crushed on Percy when half of you are doing the same thing and then y’all go and ship Percy with Nico, Jason, Artemis, Athena, etc.
-If y’all want to hate on Jason for ‘not having a personality’ you’d also have to hate on most of the main HoO characters except Reyna, Nico, and Leo (and maybe Hazel) for the same reason cause they have the exact same problem tbh
-Zoë and Bianca’s deaths weren’t actually that sad. We didn’t get to see them enough nor did they have enough development for their deaths to have a real impact. The only sad thing about them was Zoë’s last words and Nico’s reaction
-Thalia needed more time in the books
-Reyna was the only main female character in HoO that wasn’t a boring, bland Mary Sue that all the other characters automatically loved. She was the only one with real flaws and distinct personality traits she’s my queen
-Piper, Annabeth, and Calypso did have flaws but the fact that they weren’t called out by other characters or even noticed are what makes them Mary Sues. It doesn’t matter how many flaws a character has, if they’re not called out by other characters (more specifically, other protagonists who actually like them) they don’t count as real character flaws
-Riordan can’t write female characters for shit
-Clarisse, Drew, and Octavian deserved better than being completely antagonized for no explained reason other than to make the protagonists seem better and to make the readers root for them. Those three had more potential than most of the Seven combined
-The whole ‘Aphrodite kids don’t train’ thing is bs. It’s specifically stated that all the demigods follow a strict schedule and have to follow it or they’ll be on stable duty or smth and the Aphrodite kids shouldn’t (and can’t) be excused from that
-Therefore, Drew should be way more powerful and skilled than Piper, at least enough to not back down automatically from a duel by a newbie who hasn’t even learned how to fight (Drew can control an entire cabin of people at once and Piper can barely control one person at a time, who’s more powerful again??)
-Also I have no idea why Riordan portrays all the Aphrodite kids as weak and girly in the first place. ‘Femininity’ and ‘weakness’ are not synonymous and ‘love’ and ‘beauty’ don’t equal ‘feminine’
-Speaking of which, love is actually really powerful but Piper doesn’t stand for love or ‘inner beauty’ and all her ‘thoughtful/insightful’ quotes in ToA/TBM about love were complete bs
-Riordan using the LGBTQ+ community for the sole purpose of making Piper seem more likable and ‘special’ was disgusting and proves he thinks that straight is the default- “...Or Hera’s ideas of what a perfect couple looked like. Piper finding her own way, not the one people expected of her” my ass. In other words, he’s saying ‘The expectations for love and the idea of a perfect couple are a heterosexual relationship, and anyone who 'finds their own way instead of the ones people expect’ are different’. ‘Different’ and ‘default’ are antonyms, so if you think LGBT people are different, then you think that straight is the default. Aphrodite is the goddess of love not heteronormative bullshit. Like Riordan, honey, you’re the one who thinks that the expectations for love and the idea of a perfect couple are heterosexual couples, not fictional gods from a fictional mythology. Remember kiddos- an author writes their own beliefs
If you don’t agree with some of these that’s fine sis it doesn’t matter if you have different opinions than me❤️
#heroes of olympus#opinion#unpopular opinions#percy jackson#annabeth chase#jason grace#frank zhang#hazel levesque#leo valdez#reyna ramirez arellano#reyna avila ramirez arellano#thalia grace#nico di angelo#zoe nightshade#bianca di angelo#will solace#clarisse la rue#octavian#ships
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riordanverse characters as present day teens
(some of these are the most random things or dummy specific pls bear w me)
percy - stoner/skater with good fashion and music taste. would play percussion or guitar
annabeth - artsy, kinda keeps to herself, nature chick™, loves the 80s, fav movie is guardians of the galaxy, absolutely refuses to participate in sports
grover - the really nice quiet kid that just brightens ur day yk. would sit with the kids who have no one else to sit with at lunch. actually keeps in touch with those kids and makes most of his friends that way too. wholesome dude, probably only has As in language classes
rachel - art kid, was one of the few kids that participated in the school beautification program. dated percy in middle school/begining of hs and actually stayed friends w him after the breakup
thalia - actually cool. also a stoner. ace lesbian. was held back a year. has a car before licence
luke - was everyone's fav upperclassman, got a ton of scholarships, graduated and somehow ended up in prison for smth really bad
nico - not emo, just has black hair and occasionally wears a band t and no one can tell the difference
will - another one of the few that participated in the school beautification program
silena - the raging bisexual of a senior that was in at least half of the extra curriculars
beckendorf - was disappointed seeing that they did not offer shop class but took photo instead and fell in love with it. also in percussion
clarisse - raging bisexual of a senior that did as many sports as possible ranging from basketball to cheer to swim, u name it
chris - kid in band but not a band kid™
travis - really wanted to be in band but didn't really attach to one section so he switched to drum major and loved it. that is the most eventful thing that happened to him in hs. he peaked at being drum major.
connor - really good at math. liked annabeth but later got over her, realized he didn't really like her and is now gay
katie - skips class all the damn time, usually goes to coffee shops or straight up just heads out of town with no warning. still manages to have good grades. amazing at math
jason - as much as i love him, i'd probably deck him on sight. god he'd be such a douche
piper - super popular, had lots of pressure to get into a relationship so she dated a random dude, let him down easy but still broke him, rumors spread about super dumb things. found a smaller group of hella chill people and vibes. def a lesbian
leo - pretty much the same thing as piper. they were in the same group of toxic people but stayed together and now have a really chill smaller group. was pressured to date so he went after girls even tho he's actually gay. math tutor for extra credit
hazel - really smart ?? like, how ?? advanced classes two years ahead, rides bike to school everyday and grabs a coffee on the way. takes those notes with the pastel highlighters, brushtip markers, and calligraphy
frank - regular classes but also really smart. does regular for the easy A, has a lot more time to do fun activities and extra curriculars
reyna - keeps on the dl, beats up kids who use slurs. probably the type of girl i'd have a crush on. deep down a softie and loves high school musical
calypso - was luke's partner in crime but got away. was a teacher's pet but kinda hated by her peers
drew - the one really nice girl in cheer despite all the stereotypes. the one everyone wants to be friends with but they stay away from bc rumors they've heard about her
mitchell - tech theater, probably makeup. did acting freshman year but didn't like it much
lacy - choir kid™ 🙄 but despite all that kinda cool but might take a little patience, theater kid too
meg - also helped with the school beautification program except she's the one no one expected to care
lester - just trying to survive tbh. really struggles but gets told he's not trying hard enough and things just slowly get worse and worse until he has that one really great teacher that helps him. starts participating more and thrives. probably ends up peaking in high school
sadie - doesn't care about shit at all. is best friends with drew which everyone is kinda confused about but they really don't care
carter - nerd. actually cool but on weekends only
zia - same as reyna
walt - sporty dude with good grades, kinda keeps on the dl, doesn't really have a friend group but still has lots of friends
this is all i'mma do for now, drop some more if i missed anyone (i haven't read mcga and i just started the tyrants tomb)
#SHOULD I USE THIS FOR MARCHING BAND AU IVE BEEN WANTING TO WRITE IT BUT I HAD NO IDEAS BUT I COULD USE THIS#soel.txt#percy jackson#leo valdez#annabeth chase#piper mclean#jason grace#grover underwood#nico di angelo#will solace#reyna avila ramirez arellano#rachel elizabeth dare#thalia grace#luke castellan#frank zhang#drew tanaka#hazel levesque#sadie kane#carter kane#zia rashid#walt stone#lester papadopoulos#meg mccaffrey#clarisse la rue#chris rodriguez#silena beauregard#charles beckendorf#connor stoll#travis stoll#katie gardner
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Since I’m never gonna write it here’s some Platonic Pipercy for all of you lmao: (I ran out of space so I’ll do a part 2 for the HoO timeline soon)
Little bit of Piper’s backstory and how she ended up at camp, Piper was a “troubled” child who acted out a lot for her father’s attention
Tristan has just gotten into the movie industry after his father’s death and was just trying to make money to pay off his father’s medical bills and have enough money to support his daughter
And because of that he barely gets to spend time with Piper who he thinks is acting out due to the recent passing of her grandfather and she because she doesn’t have any maternal figures in her life
So he gets an assistant named Jane to help him out with his job and hopefully maybe be a female figure in Piper’s life that she can look up to and go to for girl talk and advice
Piper doesn’t like Jane and continues to act out because she just wants to have her dad back
But as Tristan’s fame grows, the less she sees her father
Piper is 10 when she finally decides to run away, hoping it would get her father’s attention
It doesn’t because he’s out promoting his new movie but she figures being on the streets is better than being with Jane
That is until she runs into some monsters who keep trying to kill her
While trying to hide out from monsters, she meets a Satyr who promises her safety and brings her to Camp Half-Blood
She gets ushered into the Hermes cabin, where all unclaimed kids go she’s told, and it’s where she meets Luke Castellan
He took her under his wing and taught her how to pick locks and how to hot wire a car
“Because you never know when you’re gonna have to steal a car for a easy getaway from monsters, Pipes”
When she asked why he was being so nice to her all he said was “because we’re family, Pipes.”
Luke was like a cool older brother
And to fit the “cursed blade shall reap” I’m gonna go along and say that Luke was the one who gave Piper her knife
Once the summer came to a close, Piper missed her father and wanted to go back home although she would miss Luke and the homey and overcrowded feeling of the Hermes cabin
Things at home didn’t approve
Tristan was still always busy and Jane tried to avoid Piper like the plague but she did ask where Piper ran off to when she ran away
(Chiron informed Jane once Piper arrived at camp that Piper was at a camp for troubled kids with behavioral problems)
Piper returns to Camp Half-Blood the following summer and welcomes the overcrowded feeling of the Hermes Cabin but hoping that maybe this summer will be the summer she gets claimed
A few weeks later she meets Percy Jackson
Percy meets Piper when he’s 12 and she’s 11 to find her standing over his bed in the infirmary after being unconscious for three days
Piper had snuck into the infirmary to look at the new guy who killed the Minotaur
He didn’t look like much, just a scrawny kid who the Ares kids could break in half like a stick if they so pleased
Piper’s first words to him are “you’re not that impressive”
Anyway, Piper shows him around camp and tells him that since he’s an unclaimed kid, just like her, that he’ll be staying in the Hermes cabin and introduces him to Luke
After Percy’s run-in with Clarisse and the bathroom and seeing what he can do, Piper is glad Percy will be on her and Luke’s team for capture the flag
To help Percy feel welcome, and because she knows how it feels to be alone at Camp, Piper and Luke snag some items from the camp store for Percy
It’s honestly one of the nicest things anyone has ever done for him in a long time
Piper is only a tiny bit jealous that Percy got claimed by Poseidon
And then Percy gets issued a quest and Piper knows that she has to go with him on that quest
Piper wants to go on the quest with Percy because she believes that if she helps retrieve Zeus’ master bolt she will make her mother proud and she will finally be claimed
So she just tells Percy (not knowing she’s charmspeaking him) she’s going on the quest with him and he just agrees without any questions
Later Percy wonders why he let an 11 year old talk him into coming along on his dangerous quest
Luke’s betrayal hurt Piper very deeply because he was like an older brother to her
And on top of that, Piper doesn’t get claimed but she does have two new friends: Percy and Grover
After learning of Gabe’s mysterious disappearance, honestly it’s so fucking weird right?, Percy tells Piper that she’s welcome to stop by his place anytime and they exchange emails so they can stay in touch
Piper returns home for the school year and it’s only a bit more tolerable because Percy, true to his promise, keeps in touch
Tristan is still busy but he promises to make time for her soon
Plans with Tristan fall through but what else is new
Jane, at Piper’s request, drops Piper off at Percy’s apartment on the first day of summer
Sally Jackson, Piper learns very quickly in the day that she was there, is an absolute saint and Percy is very fortunate to have her
Sally is the mother Piper always dreamed of having and she’s very sad to leave Percy’s apartment for camp but Sally tells Piper to come back before the summer is over and see her again
Piper instantly agrees
Piper doesn’t know what to make of Percy’s friend Tyson but he seems sweet so a friend of Percy’s is a friend of hers
Camp isn’t what Percy or Piper expected
Turns out Tyson is a cyclops and Percy’s brother, Grover went missing and nearly got married, Thalia’s tree had been poisoned and Chiron was blamed, Luke nearly killed Percy, and Clarisse brought back the Golden Fleece saving Thalia’s tree
Also Thalia was back from the dead after literally being a tree
And on top of it all, Piper still hadn’t been claimed but she did make two new friends: Thalia and Tyson
She also decided to stay and go to a boarding school in New York with Thalia for the school year
Percy doesn’t get to see her that often but whenever they’re both free, he takes her, and occasionally Thalia, around the city
Percy and Thalia don’t get along much but they make an effort to be civil
Thalia also leaves for California one weekend and doesn’t tell Percy or Piper why but returns a few days later in a somber mood
Neither of them question it
Sally absolutely adores Piper and invites her to dinner every weekend
One weekend that they’re all free, Sally takes them to Montauk beach
It makes Piper’s heart ache because before her dad was too busy for her, they used to do stuff like this
But it’s one of the best days Piper’s had in a while
During the winter, way before they’re even scheduled to return to camp, they get a frantic call from Grover
So Percy, Piper, and Thalia go off to help
They meet the siblings Bianca and Nico di Angelo, they run into the Hunters of Artemis, and Piper falls off a cliff on the back of a manticore, Bianca joins the hunt and they meet Apollo who Thalia thinks is hot
(Okay maybe he is but that’s beside the point)
Percy isn’t at all a tad bit jealous that Apollo let Thalia drive his sun chariot
Capture the Flag happens and it’s the whole camp against the Hunters of Artemis and the Aphrodite cabin, for once, is hell bent on winning
It’s one of the few and only times in his life that Percy has witnessed the Aphrodite cabin so angry and determined to be involved in any sort of camp activity besides Pegasus riding
(Well...the only other time was when the Hermes cabin pulled that Valentine’s Day prank the year before when they hijaked all of the love notes the Aphrodite cabin had sent out to everyone and replaced them with ‘hate’ notes
You see, Valentine’s Day is a very huge deal to the Aphrodite cabin and every year they try to play Cupid and try to set couples up because they love love and want everyone to be in love
Silena and Drew didn’t approve of all of their hard work being ruined and they made the Hermes cabin pay accordingly)
Piper would have loved to witness the Aphrodite cabin actually play Capture the Flag, Percy notes sadly
The camp loses and it’s very embarrassing and on second thought Percy is very glad that Piper isn’t here to witness it
Percy tries to speak to the oracle to get a quest to save Piper but the oracle won’t even talk to him
It’s even more annoying when the oracle walks downstairs from the attic and over to Zoë to give a prophecy and it’s up to him and Grover to carry her back up to her attic
He decidedly dislikes the oracle
So he sneaks out of camp, makes a promise to a 10 year old Nico, and joins a quest to save his best friend and little sister
Also the Goddess Artemis
But mainly for Piper
He meets the Goddess of Love who tells him that she’s going to make his love life very interesting
And also that she’s wishes that all of her daughters could break the hearts of guys like him
He breaks a promise to a 10 year old, nearly stabs a red head mortal girl by the name of Rachel, takes on the weight of the world from a Goddess, quite literally, and reunites with his friend
Also nearly has a breakdown because Piper may join the Hunters of Artemis
Piper is his best friend and he loves her and he will hardly ever see her again if she joins
Piper would be lying if she said she hadn’t thought about it for like a moment because it seemed cool but then she learned that no boys were allowed at all
Piper immediately makes her decision because she could never leave Percy behind because he’s the closest thing she has to a brother and she loves him. He snuck along on this quest to save her and he rescued her
Also she would very much like to date in the future thank you very much
Piper finally gets claimed after the winter solstice
She is horrified
Her claiming, on all accounts, is horrible and embarrassing
Piper didn’t think she would ever miss the Hermes cabin but sitting in the Aphrodite cabin made her miss her old bunk
Silena is sweet and helps her adjust
Drew is...well Drew is blunt but she also offers to do something about the rat nest she calls hair
Drew can be mean at times but Silena keeps her in line most of the time
Overall Piper thinks her siblings are alright but she still misses the Hermes cabin
She goes home back to her dad at the end of summer and argues with herself on whether or not she should tell her father the truth about her mother
Ultimately she decides against it
As a child of Aphrodite, there are a couple of abilities that Piper didn’t know she possessed
One of which is charmspeak, a sort of rare gift that Drew also possesses and teaches her about
Another ability that she actually discovers on complete accident, is that she can create bonds with people
Sort of like Grover’s empathy link with Percy but more intense
Piper gets her very first quest and she’s so excited!!
Until she gets her prophecy
‘And lose a love to worse than death’
Piper doesn’t tell anyone about that last line, especially not Percy
She immediately asks Percy to join her
Piper had a teeny tiny crush on Percy when she was 11 but then it went away when she realized how much of a fucking idiot and dork he was
Her first kiss was nothing like Silena and Drew told her it was going to be
It was meh and very awkward
Mainly because her first kiss was Percy and it was a ‘good luck you better not die’ kiss
Also the timing was shit and Percy was in too much shock to even respond
but on a positive note she got her first kiss out of the way and knew that she didn’t harbor any feelings for him
Percy felt very much the same
Then a volcano erupted
When Percy didn’t immediately return back to camp, everyone wanted to burn his shroud but Piper talked everyone into holding it off for a little while longer
When Percy didn’t return for nearly two weeks Chiron had informed her that it was time
Piper tried to fight it but everyone agreed with Chiron
“And lose a love to worse than death” Piper had her suspicions about Percy but she hoped it was wrong
She had no idea what a fate worse than death was but Percy had to be gone, the last line in the prophecy came to be
And of course, because Percy is a fucking dramatic asshole, he interrupts his own funeral
What a fucking prick Piper wanted to strangle him for worrying her for two weeks
Piper decidedly does not like Calypso
She’s relieved that Percy is back but she still doesn’t know what the last line in her prophecy could mean
Percy didn’t plan on bringing Rachel along for Piper’s first quest but y’know sometimes life happens
He immediately regrets his decision because Piper and Rachel immediately hit it off
Rachel talks about her first meeting with Percy he tried to stab her through with his sword
And Piper, because of course it’s Piper, tells Rachel all of the embarrassing stories Percy has done
Piper loves Rachel, absolutely adores her. She thinks she’s the coolest person Percy has ever met
But since Piper is a daughter of Aphrodite she can get a feel of what relationships are going to work and which ones are just not meant to be
Piper loves Rachel but she knows that she and Percy are just better off as friends
Anyway
The last line of her prophecy finally comes true
Luke, who she loved and looked up to as a brother, was now playing Host to Kronos
She didn’t know how to react. Part of her always hoped Luke would come back to the right side but now she’s lost him for good
Piper also thinks Rachel is pretty badass for throwing a blue hairbrush at a Titan
And at the end of summer, once the battle of Camp Half-Blood is over, Piper accidentally creates an empathy bond with Percy
At the end of the summer, before returning home, she celebrates Percy’s 15th birthday with him, Sally, and Sally’s new fiancé Paul
And Nico who randomly stops by for some reason
Rachel and Piper stay in touch during the school year and actually become really good close friends since they can relate to each other
(And because there’s no underlying jealousy involved)
Their IMs are literally just them shit talking Percy, Rachel keeping Piper updated on all Percy related shenanigans, them ranting about their dads, Rachel’s art ideas and Piper raving about Rachel’s art ideas
They make plans to have a girls day out the next time they’re both in New York and free
Beckendorf’s death hit the camp hard, Piper could feel the guilt through her bond with Percy and in the heaviness of the Aphrodite cabin
While Percy is getting the Mark of Achilles, he uses Piper as his anchor because she is the closest thing he has to a sister and he loves her
And because Percy is her brother and she loves him, Piper takes a poisoned dagger for him
Piper is only a little bit pissed when she finds out about the Mark of Achilles
Luke’s sacrifice was....hard to say the least
And then Percy gets offered to become a God and Piper forgets how to breathe
Silena’s death was hard to cope with
The Aphrodite cabin blamed her death on the Rite of Passage
Following Silena’s death, because Drew is the oldest and has been at camp the longest and has the ability to charmspeak, she becomes the next Head Counselor since no one else dares to challenge her
She becomes cold and a tyrant, creating these ridiculous rules and punishments
Mitchell thinks Silena’s death and her betrayal really hurt her and it’s her way of coping with it
Once the war is over and everyone can breathe again, Percy and Piper sit and hang out on the dock by the lake and talk
After, Percy and Piper spend the rest of the summer with Sally and Paul and Piper contemplates staying in New York for the upcoming school year or going home to her dad
She and Tristan get in a fight and she decides to stay in New York
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chapter forty-eight—the hero’s soul
read Child of Land and Sea here
Act V — Walking On Water
Part XI — Yet I feel my heart is aching, though it doesn't beat it's breaking. And the pain here that I feel, try and tell me it's not real.
Clarisse turned into a demon. Without armor or spear, she rode her chariot straight into the Titan's army and crushed everything in her path. She charged after the enemy, yelling insults and daring them to cross her. She was literally glowing – an aura of red fire flickering around her.
"The blessing of Ares," Thalia said. "I've never seen it in person before."
Clarisse seemed as invincible as Andy was. Nothing could hit her. "I am Clarisse," she shouted, "Drakon-slayer! I'll kill you all! Where is Kronos? Bring him out! Bring out that coward!"
The enemy fell back but Clarisse went after them. Meanwhile, they treated their wounded, bringing them inside the lobby. Long after the enemy had retreated from sight, Clarisse kept riding up and down the avenue demanding that Kronos meet her battle.
"I'll watch her," Chris said. "Eventually, she'll get tired."
"What about camp?" Andy asked him. "Is anybody left there?"
Chris shook his head. "Only Argus and the dragon."
"Well... I'm glad you came."
Chris nodded sadly. "Sorry it took so long. I tried to reason with Clarisse. I told her all of our friends were here. And Silena..." his voice died away.
"My Hunters will help you stand guard," Thalia said. "Tony and Andy, you should go to Olympus. Set up the final defense."
Connor and Travis Stoll met Andy in the reception. "Is it true about Silena?" Connor asked.
"Whatever you heard, you better forget," Andy told him. "She died a hero and that's the end of it. Got it?"
They nodded. "Hey, listen. We figured the enemy will have trouble fitting in the elevators," Travis said.
"Yes. Our biggest advantage. We need to keep them away from the doors, though."
"We need reinforcements," Travis said.
"There is no reinforcement," Connor mumbled.
"Maybe that's not true," Andy said looking at Mrs O'Leary who was resting. "Hey, girl," she whispered petting the dog. "I know you're tired, but there's something you need to do." And she sent the hell-hound away.
Andy found Grover and Anthony in the lobby kneeling over a fat wounded satyr. "Grover," Leneus called weakly.
"I'm here," Grover said. He was crying despite all the horrible things Leneus had said about him.
"Did... did we win?"
"Yes," Grover lied. "Thanks to you, Leneus. We drove the enemy away."
"Told you," the old satyr mumbled. "True leader. True..." he closed his eyes for the last time. Grover spoke an ancient blessing and the satyrs body melted into a pile of fresh soil.
"A laurel," Grover said in awe. "Oh, that lucky old goat." He gathered up the sapling in his hands. "I'll plant him. In Olympus."
"We're going that way," Andy said.
Inside the elevator, Anthony finally spoke. "You were right about Luke." He kept his eyes on the floor.
"Tony-"
"I didn't believe until..." the hurt in his voice was overwhelming. "He's a monster. I will kill him myself if I get the chance."
Andy wanted to argue, to say something, anything, but the words wouldn't come out.
Olympus looked depressing. There were wounded campers and satyrs and centaurs everywhere. Andy found Pollux with a broken arm but otherwise fine and commanded him to stay where he was, to stay safe.
In the throne room, the Ophiotaurus swam sadly in his sphere of water. Standing at the foot of Zeus's throne was Rachel holding Pandora's jar.
"What are you doing here?" Andy asked. "And where did you-"
"I found Pandora's box," she said dreamily. Her eyes were brighter than usual.
"I can see that." Andy went toward her. "Now, please, put down the jar."
"I can see Hope inside it," Rachel ran her fingers over the ceramic designs. "So fragile."
Andy took the jar from her in a fast and precise movement. Rachel's eyes widened like she'd been violently awakened.
"Grover," Anthony mumbled. "Let's scout around the palace. You can plant Leneus somewhere. And maybe we can find some extra Greek fire or Hephaestus traps." And he dragged the satyr out of the room.
Over by the fire, Hestia was huddled in her robes, rocking back and forth. "Andy Jackson," she murmured. "Getting colder. Harder to keep the fire going."
"I know," Andy said. "The Titans are near."
Hestia focused on Rachel. "You've come to our hearth at last."
Rachel blinked. "You've been expecting me?"
"To claim your place at the hearth," Hestia told her, "you must let go of your distractions. It is the only way you will survive."
Rachel tensed. "I... I know."
"I don't," Andy said. "What are you talking about?"
Rachel took a shaky breath. "Andy, when I came here... I thought I was coming for you. But I wasn't. You and me..." she shook her red curls.
"Am I the distraction?" Andy guessed.
"I'm not sure I can put it into words," Rachel said. "I was drawn to you because... because you opened the door to all of this. I needed to understand my true sight. But you and me, that wasn't part of it. Our fates aren't intertwined."
"I'm not sure I understand," Andy said. "I mean... I know you said you liked me, and you got us through the Labyrinth, but... I don't know where you're going with..."
"Andy Jackson," Hestia said. "Rachel has told you all she can. Her moment is coming, but your decision approaches even more rapidly. Are you prepared?"
Anthony and Grover chose that moment to come back. Andy glanced at Rachel. "You're not going to do anything stupid, are you?"
She managed a faint smile. "Oh, please. You're worried about me doing something stupid?"
"Are you giving me atitude because I'm not the hero?" Andy teased. She went forward and gave Rachel peck on the lips. "That's for you." Then Andy handed the Pandora's jar to Hestia. "And this is for you. An offering."
The goddess tilted her head. "I am the least of the gods. Why would you trust me with this?"
"You are the last Olympian," Andy said. "And the most important of them all."
"And why is that, Andy Jackson?"
"Because hope survives best at the hearth." Andy's eyes watered. "You know... for a moment there, hope seemed pretty useless to me. I need you to guard it for me. So I will never be tempted to give up again."
The goddess smiled. "Well done, Andy Jackson. May the gods bless us."
"We'll see." Andy marched toward her father's throne and sat on it.
"Are you crazy?" Anthony demanded.
"Probably," she admitted, "or this wouldn't work."
"Andy," Grover said. "Get out of there. The gods really don't appreciate people sitting in their thrones."
Andy closed her eyes and concentrated. The throne rumbled. A wave of gale-force anger slammed into her mind. "Who dares-" the voice stopped abruptly. The anger retreated. "Andy, what exactly are you doing on my throne?"
"I needed to get your attention," Andy shouted to the skies.
"If I hadn't looked before I blasted-"
"Father, I have a plan," she said and then told him everything.
"What you ask is impossible," Poseidon said. "My palace-"
"We need you here!"
"My home is being attacked!"
"This is your home. Olympus," she reminded him.
"My palace will be destroyed-"
"But Olympus might be saved."
"Very well!" Poseidon shouted. A wave of water blasted Andy off the throne and to the ground.
Grover helped her up. "Are you okay?" he was trying to not laugh.
"Fine."
"Was it worth it?" Anthony asked.
"Gods, I hope so."
Just then, the doors of the throne room swung open and Thalia marched in. "The enemy is advancing," she said. "And Kronos is leading them."
By the time they reached the street, it was too late. The only one standing before Kronos was Chiron. "Step aside, little son," Kronos told him.
"I'm afraid not," Chiron said.
A dracaenae charged, but Chiron killed it like it was nothing.
"You are a teacher," Kronos said. "Not a hero."
"Luke was a hero," Chiron growled. "A good one. Until you corrupted him."
"You filled his head with empty promises!" the Titan shouted. "You said the gods cared about me!"
The entire street fell silent. Monsters glanced at each other, confused.
"Me," Chiron noticed. "You said me."
Kronos also looked confused and Chiron took the chance to strike. A blinding light exploded between them and Chiron flew into the side of the building with such force the wall crumbled and collapsed on top of him. "No!" Anthony wailed. He drew his knife and attacked Kronos who still seemed quite confused. He plunged his knife between the straps of the Titan's armor, right at his collarbone, but it bounced off. Andy pushed Anthony back just as Kronos swung his scythe, slicing the air.
Then Mrs O'Leary appeared with Nico on her back. The enemy army fell back before him like he radiated death, which he surely did. Through the face guard of his skull-shaped helmet, he smiled. "Got your message, Jackson. Hope it's not too late to join the party."
"Son of Hades," Kronos spit on the ground. "Do you love death so much you wish to experience it?"
"Your death," Nico said without an ounce of fear, "would be lovely."
"I'm immortal, you fool! I have escaped Tartarus. You have no business here, and no chance to live."
Nico drew his sword and he looked incredibly handsome doing it. "We'll have to agree to disagree." The ground rumbled. Cracks appeared in the road, the sidewalks, the sides of the buildings. Skeletal hands grasped the air as the dead clawed their way into the world of the living.
"The dead are no match for us," Kronos said, but his army slowly backed up.
The sky turned dark and cold. Shadows thickened. A chariot came to a stop next to Nico. Holding the reins of the shadow horses, was Hades himself with Demeter and Persephone riding behind him. Hades's helm ignited their worst nightmares and the Titan's army seemed pretty scared of it.
"Hello, old man," Hades said. "You're looking... young."
"Hades," Kronos growled. "I hope you and the ladies have come to pledge your allegiance."
"Afraid not," Hades sighed. "My son here convinced me that perhaps I should prioritize my list of enemies." Hades glanced at Andy. "As much as I dislike the siren, it would not do for Olympus to fall. I would miss my stupid siblings. If there is one thing we always agreed on it's that you were a terrible father."
"No appreciation of agriculture," Demeter agreed.
Hades drew his sword. "Fight me. For today the House of Hades will be called the saviors of Olympus!"
"I don't have time for this," Kronos snarled. He struck the ground with his scythe. A crack spread in both directions, circling the Empire State Building. A wall of force shimmered along the fissure line, separating Kronos's vanguard, Andy, and her friends from the bulk of the two armies.
"What is he doing?" Andy asked.
"Sealing us in," Thalia said. "He's collapsing the magic barriers around Manhattan, cutting off just the building... and us."
Hades charged at the wall of force, but his chariot crashed and overturned. He got to his feet and cursed. "Attack!" he ordered. The armies of the dead clashed with the Titan's monsters and everything exploded into absolute chaos.
Kronos ducked into the lobby completely ignoring Andy which made her really angry. A Hyperborean giant smashed at her with his club, but she rolled between his legs an stabbed Riptide into his backside. He exploded into pieces of ice.
Andy commanded Mrs O'Leary to dig Chiron up and raced for the elevators. Anthony and Grover followed her.
Kronos stood in the middle of the throne room, his arms wide, staring at the starry ceiling as if taking it all in. His laughter echoed all around. "Finally!" he bellowed. "The Olympian Council – so proud and mighty. Which seat of power shall I destroy first?"
Ethan Nakamura stood to one side, trying to stay out of the way of the Titan's scythe. The hearth was almost dead. Hestia was nowhere to be seen, and neither was Rachel.
Kronos smiled when he saw Andy. He looked so much like Luke, charming and inviting, if not for the golden eyes. Anthony made a painful sound like he was thinking the same thing. "Will you die fighting me, Jackson?" Kronos dared. "Or will you bow to me? The prophecy won't end well for you."
"I'd rather die today," Andy said, "than put up with you another second."
Kronos grimaced and his scythe turned into a sword. "I will enjoy killing you," he said.
"That's been said to me before," she noted.
Suddenly, Anthony gasped and grabbed her arm. "The blade," he said unsheathing his knife. "The hero's soul, cursed blade shall reap."
Andy didn't have time to get what he was saying. Kronos attacked and she had to dodge. She slashed and rolled. Ethan tried to get behind her, but Anthony intercepted him. They started fighting. Grover was playing his pipes. Kronos slashed. Andy dodged and kicked the sword away from his hands.
Anthony punched Ethan right in the eye and the guy fell down on his knees. Then Anthony approached Kronos like he was going to embrace him. "Luke," he called. "Listen to me!"
Kronos flickered his hand and Anthony flew backward, slamming into his mother's throne. Ethan stumbled between Andy and Anthony, leaving Andy between him and Kronos. The Titan reached for his sword, but this time it didn't fly into his hands. "Nakamura," he groaned. "Time to prove yourself. You know Jackson's secret weakness. Kill her, and you will have rewards beyond measure."
Ethan's eye dropped to Andy's midsection.
"Ethan," she called. "Look around you. This is the end of the world. Is this reward enough? Do you really want everything destroyed? The good and the bad?"
"There is no throne to Nemesis," Ethan muttered. "No throne to my mother."
"That's right!" Kronos said. "Strike them down! They deserve to suffer!"
"You said your mom is the goddess of balance," Andy reminded him. "You said you'd be responsible for the balance of power. This is your chance. The minor gods deserve better, I know it too. But destruction isn't balance. Kronos doesn't build. He only destroys!"
Grover's music kept playing and Ethan swayed to it. His good eye blinked. And then, surprising them all, he charged at the Titan lord. He tried to cut the Kronos's head off with his sword, but it shattered. Ethan fell back, grasping his stomach. A shard of his own blade had ricocheted and pierced his armor.
"Treason," Kronos snarled.
"Deserve better..." Ethan glanced at Andy. "If they just... had thrones..."
Kronos picked up his sword and attacked Andy. Their blades clashed in a shower of sparks. Andy pushed him back and struck – slashing Riptide across his breastplate so hard she cut a gash in the Celestial bronze. Time slowed. She couldn't move. Kronos examined the gash in his armor while she struggled forward. "It's too late, Andy Jackson," he said. "Typhon is here. The Olympians are giving their final effort to defeat him."
Then a voice echoed all around New York City.
"NOW, MY BRETHREN," Poseidon shouted, "STRIKE FOR OLYMPUS!" Her dad had arrived.
Andy smiled. "They're on their way. You've lost."
"I haven't even started." Kronos advanced. Grover, the brave satyr, tried to protect Andy, but he was tossed aside like a rag doll. Kronos disarmed Andy. Her sword skittered across the ground.
Then Anthony was there. "Luke, stop!" he said. "I can see it now! You have to trust me!" Kronos slashed his sword but somehow Anthony caught the strike on his dagger hilt. It was the quickest movement Andy had ever seen. Anthony stepped in closer for leverage, their blades crossed, and for a moment, they stood face to face. "You are my brother."
Kronos roared in outrage. "Luke Castellan is dead! His body will burn away as I assume my true form!" Kronos pushed against Anthony, trying to dislodge his blade, but Anthony held him in check, his arms trembling as Kronos forced his sword toward his neck.
Andy watched open-mouthed. She had no idea where Anthony was finding his strength.
"Your mother," Anthony insisted, "she saw your fate."
"Service to Kronos!" the Titan roared. "This is my fate!"
"No!" Anthony argued. "This is not the end, Luke. The prophecy is yours! You can still choose it!"
"I will crush you," Kronos bellowed.
"No, you won't," Anthony said. "Because we're brothers. And we made a promise. We're family."
"Lies!" Kronos pushed again, and this time Anthony lost his balance. Kronos struck his head and he slid backward. Andy tried to move, but time had slowed again around her. Kronos loomed over Anthony, his sword raised.
"Family, Luke," Anthony said. "You promised."
Kronos staggered. He stared at the knife in Anthony's hand, the blood on his face. "Promise," he repeated. Then he gasped like he couldn't get air. "Tony..." his eyes shimmered, gold and blue. He stumbled forward like he couldn't control his own body. "Brother..." he cried.
Andy was free. She ran to where Anthony was. Anger rippled across Luke's face when he saw her. Kronos's voice growled, "Jackson..." but he gasped again. "He's changing," Luke's voice said. "Help me. He's... He's almost ready. He won't need me anymore. Please-" His entire body started to glow. Luke turned and collapsed. "Please, Tony..." Luke grabbed Anthony's neck and brought his face so close their foreheads touched. "Do it," he begged. "Do it for me, my brother." Luke took Anthony's hand and guided it to a small bit of skin just under his left arm.
There was a moment of complete silence in which Luke and Anthony just stared at each other. Then Anthony made a tiny movement and his knife went deep into Luke's skin. Luke howled. His eyes glowed like lava. An aura of energy surrounded him and a force like a nuclear explosion went around Olympus.
Anthony stopped Luke's body from hitting the floor. There was a blackened circle of ashes around the two boys. The blue eyes found the gray ones and Luke smiled like he hadn't done in the longest time. "Great... blade... didn't I tell you?" he croaked.
Anthony had tears in his eyes but he made no sound.
"You knew..." Luke muttered. "I almost killed you, but you knew..."
"You were my hero," Anthony told him.
Luke let out a chuckle. "No. You were mine." Anthony seemed surprised by that, like the idea of being someone's hero was absurd. "Yes... Always has been..." Luke said. "We're family. You're the only family... You and Thalia." He coughed and his lips turned bloody. "Grover," he whispered. "The bravest satyr... also a brother..."
Grover moved from one side to the other. "Maybe we can... we can..." But there was nothing to be done.
Luke turned and saw Andy a little further away. "Hey, beautiful..." he said. "Don't let them... Ethan. Me. All the unclaimed. Don't let it... Don't let it happen..." his eyes were angry, but pleading, too.
"I won't," she managed to say. "I promise."
Luke nodded and looked back at Anthony. "Tell her... Please, tell Thalia..."
"She knows," Anthony assured him. "She's always known."
Luke smiled and that was the last thing he did. Then the Olympians arrived.
Andy stood up. "We need a shroud," she told them. "A shroud for the son of Hermes."
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✨My Opinions on Random Fanon Ships in Percy Jackson✨
Theyna- MY FAVORITE SHIP IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE 😭. They had so much chemistry, potential, and naturally amazing and hilarious dialogue. I fell in love right away. They have so much in common and feel so right for each other, doesn’t matter if they’re Hunters. Besides- Reyna got rejected by the brother, so what better thing to do than to steal his sister? My queens deserve each other-
Tratie- I have no idea where this came from or why it’s so well-loved, but I like it. It’s a really cute concept though I wish their friendship was expanded on more in the books
Clarilena- Honestly yes. If Clarisse didn’t have Chris, she definitely should’ve gotten together with Silena. The butch and the femme will always be one of the most iconic relationship tropes ever, plus their chemistry and how close they were was really cute and interesting
Reynabeth- Lowkey. If Annabeth wasn’t dating Percy (and Theyna didn’t exist) Reyna would probably be my first choice for Annabeth. They had more chemistry in that one New Rome tour chapter than Percy and Annabeth had in 12+ books and had so much potential as intelligent badass leaders
Pipabeth- ew. Riordan says they’re BFFs and then degrades Annabeth for Piper’s sake, never shows them doing anything friends do, and they never talk, hang out, etc. and their friendship was never explained or expanded on. Kinda just seemed like Riordan created it for the sole purpose of giving Annabeth a BFF and to make the readers like Piper more by having Annabeth like her too despite them being polar opposites and realistically would’ve argued ten times a day
Thaliabeth- pedophila??? and lowkey honorary incest???
Lukabeth- YUCK same thing as Thaliabeth but even worse and toxic af
Pipeyna- nah sis my queen deserves better than some kid who stole her boyfriend then thought she could talk to her about her love life even though was the one who ruined it and made her feel even more lonely, bitter, and shitty without an apology. Also a not-expanded-on-or-explained friendship that made no sense
Perachel- Amazing. So much chemistry and naturally flowing dialogue that just made sense plus it’s super healthy and realistic. Doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets
Dreyna- Lowkey kinda cute. Reyna showing Drew how to fight, Drew and Reyna doing each other’s hair and makeup, Reyna teaching Drew to be nicer, etc.
Jercy- Meh. Their bromance was kind of bland and the fandom over-exaggerates it. They hated each other more than they liked each other, but the potential was definitely there
Valgrace- GIRL YES. Literally gay Frazel and their friendship was so cute but left in the dark honestly my favorite ship besides Theyna
Valdangelo- Yeah kinda. They have a lot in common and could talk to each other about their similar pasts and trauma, plus they’re actually quite similar
Racheyna- I wouldn’t mind it. The artist and the war goddess’ daughter is a cute concept
Jasico- Not really. I don’t really see them being anything more than friends
Perleo- Sassy best friends and sassy boyfriends
Thalico- girl stop with the pedophilia-
Pipalypso- This exists? Why???
Rachabeth- The concept of Rachel having a crush on Percy and Annabeth during BoTL is a concept the world can’t handle but my queen deserves better than some blondie who went ‘you’re friends with my boyfriend and you have different genitals than him? I’m going to hate on you for two years straight for no reason ❤️’
Pipeynabeth- I like Reynabeth but Pipabeth and Pipeyna I don’t so nah
Pipalia- Thalia would’ve realistically hated Piper (and so should’ve Annabeth) for her charmspeak ability (Luke controlled by Kronos who?) and they have absolutely nothing in common or any chemistry so no
Leyna- Honestly sort of. Their concept is cute. Reyna could teach Leo to be a stronger fighter and how to be a better leader and Leo could teach Reyna to let loose. Good friends at least
Perzoe- My queen deserves better than some arrogant douche who went ‘is that the guy who broke the heart of the girl who sacrificed herself to save me? no it isn’t ❤️′
Pipazel- Honestly makes no sense. They didn’t share any moments whatsoever in the books and barely make good friends much less good girlfriends
Thalypso- This also exists???
Perlia- My queen deserves better than some arrogant douche who went ‘we were best friends and have a lot in common? no we weren’t ❤️′
Perlypso- Even tho I don’t really like her this girl deserves better than some arrogant douche who went ‘you saved and healed me and I promised to take you off your imprisonment island? no I didn’t ❤️′
Thalianca- Also pedophilia???
Liper- My baby boy deserves better than some girl who went ‘we were best friends for months and knew each other before we knew we were demigods? no we weren’t ❤️’ like girl didn’t even bother thinking about checking on her so-called best friend cause she was too busy drooling all over her boyfriend-
Thaloe- Low-key cute if they weren’t arguing 24/7
Pernico- Not really. Percy doesn’t care that much about Nico and I’m pretty sure Nico is over his neglectful ass
Perluke- GIRL WHAT-
Pipachel- My artistic queen deserves better than to be shipped with Piper like this
Octachel- My artistic queen deserves better than to be shipped with Octavian like this
Lazel- Lowkey tho. They were good friends at least and their backstory was interesting
Jeyna- GIRL YES 😭 They had so much potential and had a lot in common and probably shared so many cute moments and memories in their 4+ years of knowing each other and their backstory was so tragic like why would anyone pick Jiper over Jeyna I don’t understand- Riordan give us a backstory NOW-
#heroes of olympus#demigods#ships#my hot take#my take#fanon#fanon ships#percy jackson#annabeth chase#jason grace#piper mclean#hazel levesque#frank zhang#leo valdez#reyna ramirez arellano#reyna avila ramirez arellano#rachel dare#rachel elizabeth dare#drew tanaka#clarisse la rue#silena beauregard#nico di angelo#thalia grace#luke castellan#zoe nightshade#bianca di angelo#calypso#katie gardner#travis stoll
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