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Typing the Turtles (ROTTMNT) Part 4 - Michelangelo
This started out as an investigation into the turtles’ insecurities, because one thing the show does so well is demonstrate that they are still teenagers. And being a teenager is a confusing experience - there’s angst, drama, exploring one’s identity, a lot of growth, and overall figuring out who you are. That’s a messy process, too! And we see this mess in our turtles: they mess up, they’re learning, they self-doubt, they have fears and insecurities, but they’re also discovering their strengths and how to overcome their inner obstacles.
So after thinking about all this way too long, here’s my psychological breakdown of each turtle (I’ll be referencing MBTI and the Enneagram a ton, but will include links for more general information on those if you don’t know what I’m talking about).
Parts One , Two , and Three found on the links for Raph, Don, and Leo.
Mikey: ENFP, 4w3
The Individualist, the Campaigner, the Enthusiast, the Diplomat
I struggled for FOUR. YEARS. To figure out if Mikey is an enneagram 4 or an enneagram 2. And I’m finally going with enneagram 4.
Mikey is creative and very in tune with his emotions. To understand the enneagram 4, we must get away from the stereotype that 4’s are moody, mopey, angst-filled. Happy fours exist! They are quite common, in fact. https://www.elisabethbennettenneagram.com/post/the-happy-four This is especially enhanced by Mikey being an ENFP: extroverts who want to ‘get deep’ with others, learning their intrinsic desires and motivations. Mikey has both of these aspects.
We see that Mikey has a pretty strong sense of self in episodes like ‘The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle’, where he actually doesn’t want to engage in dress-up montage and is the first to state that they are perfect as they already are and to “embrace the Turtle, baby!” Fours are driven by uniqueness and individuality, with a desire to find both themselves and their purpose. https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4/ Mikey is constantly expressing himself through his art, cooking, and a myriad of other skills including DJ’ing (Mascot Melee and Lair Games) ballet (Lair Games) and some sort of rodeo clown/mime class (Bug Busters).
But Mikey doesn’t keep this concept of self-expression and identity to himself. He likes to meaningfully connect with others and the way they express themselves, too. He often supports their endeavors as the world’s biggest hype-man (stated literally in Shell in a Cell). ENFP’s are called the campaigners because they’re looking for that deeper, meaningful joy in others even as their own upbeat approach to life lets them explore new things. https://www.16personalities.com/enfp-personality You want someone to enthusiastically encourage you and cheer you on as you Do the Thing, whatever thing that may be? That’s Mikey.
This kind of engagement is also why I believe he’s a 4w3. Three wings are usually more ambitious and goal-oriented with people-pleasing tendencies, which can (in my opinion) look a lot like a Two. Fours also move to Twos in stress, becoming clingy and needy.
What does all this look like? The biggest example is Mikey’s Draxum project. There has to be more to this warring warrior-scientist because there always is more to everybody. Mikey’s goal is to rehabilitate him, yes, but it’s to rehabilitate him by connecting with him on a deeper level and getting Draxum to connect with others (humans) on that deeper level, too (Repairin’ the Baron). Additionally, when Splinter asks Mikey why cares about Draxum so much in Hidden City’s Most Wanted, Mikey responds “He made me. He made us. …Maybe he didn’t make us for the right reasons, but I’m still glad he did.”
Mikey is only one of four teenage mutant ninja turtles in this world, and that makes him pretty darn unique. He embraces that. He loves who he is, and he loves other people for who they are.
Mikey at his Worst: We don’t like to look at Mikey at his worst self I think because so often he brings such joy and positivity and caring into the world that it feels easier to ignore any negative aspects about his character. But Mikey is only human turtle, too. These behaviors are usually emotion-driven to the point that they blind him from greater context/awareness. He’s not thinking about the others around him. For example, in Nothing but Truffle, Mikey is very bossy to Todd as he fixates on getting that shadow moon truffle. This is probably the episode that depicts Mikey at his most selfish: he starts off determined to figure out how to make his pork chops as good as MeatSweat’s, then becomes enamored by a day hanging out with his idol (that 3 wing kicking in, as well as ENFP overaccommodation).
Mikey also has a competitive streak in him second to Leo’s. He can’t wait to “rub it in Raph’s face” when he gets the game in Hot Soup: The Game, and needles Leo by calling him ‘second place’ throughout You Got Served. Additionally, when Mikey gets mad, he can let his anger carry him to some extremes. In ‘Donnie’s Gifts’, he demands that Raph tell Donnie exactly how they all feel. In ‘Pizza Pit’, we see Mikey’s anger/hangriness drive him to extreme rage as they chase down DIGG for destroying their favorite pizza places. When he’s blocked from being able to do (razzmatazz) or get (pizza, the truffle) what he wants, he’ll let his feelings take over regardless of how it affects those around him.
Average Mikey: Most of the time, Mikey lives completely in the present. He is often reacting to whatever is right in front of him at the time. Outside of danger, he is happy to spend his time playing video games, creating art (Flushed, But Not Forgotten) or cooking (The Ancient Art of Ninja Hide’n’Seek, The Longest Fight, Pizza Puffs, Donnie’s Gifts). He also enjoys hanging out with all of his brothers, playing various games with Leo (You Got Served, Sparring Partner) or helping Donnie with his projects (Repo Mantis, the scrapped Gourd Almighty). Being so in tune with the present, Mikey often hits the nail on the head with what exactly is going on (usually emotionally) with the situation, and responds.
This type of response is neutral, however. For example, in Bug Busters, after they destroy the lobby of the hotel, Mikey says “we need to do the right thing, guys… and get out of here.” Another moment includes their first time hero-ing in Origami Tsunami where he comments “Man, this seemed like a really cool idea until we didn’t succeed at it.” Or in The Gumbus, when Stockboy asks if they’ve subscribed and donated to his channel, Mikey replies “No. But we’ve been thinking about meaning to.” Or even cheering on Draxum in Repairin’ the Baron after he admits he’ll need to tolerate humans with a happy “there’s the bare minimum!” The humor in all of this is that Mikey’s not wrong. He’s exactly right, and just outright states it, for better or for worse.
Which is another thing about Mikey: nothing is subtle. He puts himself out there, and everything he does is done to the max. When he cries, he sobs. When he laughs, he laughs hard. When he’s scared, he’s terrified. When he’s mad, he’s enraged.
Even his ‘doctor’ personas (which you can look at as a 4w3 who prefers ‘the stage’ than a quieter 4w5 for expression) are extremes. https://www.crystalknows.com/enneagram/type-4/wing-3 Dr. Delicate Touch tells it how it is, no matter how much the truth may hurt (Pizza Pit, Bullhop). Dr. Positive looks on the bright side, no matter how far out of reach that goal may seem (Repairin’ the Baron). Dr. Feelings will commit to emotional intelligence and the importance of experiencing feelings no matter how closed-off to the idea his patient(s) may be (Breaking Purple).
Mikey at his Best: The thing is, while Mikey is often unapologetically his whole entire self, bad side and all, he accepts the very same traits about everyone else. He believes everyone is perfect as they are (The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle) not because they have obtained some kind of ideal, but because he thinks their entire being, warts and all, is what makes them beautiful and perfect.
Mikey appreciates everything around him in this way. In Hot Soup: The Game, we see him constantly pausing and appreciating various items in the store. The suit of armor he fell in? Has a feather! The ice cream kitty statue? Is adorable and makes him coo. There are dozens of little moments throughout the entire show where he constantly just pauses and notices what’s around him and how cool/beautiful/fascinating they are.
This is how Mikey views people, too. He was the first one to warm up to Todd, even when there was still a chance he was the spine-breaking bandit (Repo Mantis). He looks up to Rupert Swaggart for his cooking skills, while simultaneously acknowledging that the guy is a jerk (Nothing But Truffle). Even after Bullhop has been “working a nerve!” he still asks him at the end if he wants to join the Mad Dogs. He points out to Donnie, as he’s having trouble with Shelldon, that Shelldon “is at a delicate age. You need to nurture his spirit, or you’ll drive him away.” (Breaking Purple). And he’s right.
This is also how I think Mikey can come across as a Two very often. He’s so supportive, so generous in always helping others, hyping them up, and being there for them that it can read very much like a Two. But the motivation is what it comes down to: Mikey doesn’t help out because he needs to be needed, or to feel loved. He already feels loved. He’s engaging with them on their terms. His connection with them is utterly genuine and authentic. That is a very powerful kind of acceptance that is hard for anyone to say no to.
The biggest example of all of this is, again, Draxum. No one else was going to touch Draxum with a ten foot pole. But Mikey, as a 4, takes his past in stride and meets him where he is with a full, true, connection. Even though Draxum grouses, he doesn’t turn down Mikey’s help. Unlike a two, Mikey’s not helping to be loved, or because he feels he needs to help. Mikey states “He created us. That makes him family. And once he feels like he’s a part of our family, his goodness will shine.” His entire logic is that Draxum needs to feel part of a family, something that is missing from him currently. Right before that sentence, Mikey lays out, very clearly, exactly what state Draxum was in. He was totally alone and helpless. And he’s not doing it in a judging way, exactly, nor lauding how great he is for helping him out of that. He’s stating the blunt truth. Mikey encountered a depressed, powerless, down-on-his luck warlord. And he still accepted him for everything he was: a depressed powerless, down-on-his-luck warlord, and his creator. Since he created Mikey (and since Fours heavily value their sense of identity and purpose) this means A LOT to Mikey.
“How can you say there’s no such thing as ghosts, when there’s such a thing as us!” (The Gumbus)
“He created us, Raph. Without him, we wouldn’t even be here.” (Repairin’ the Baron)
“He made me. He made us. …Maybe he didn’t make us for the right reasons, but I’m still glad he did.” (Hidden City’s Most Wanted)
“We’re perfect the way we are! Embrace the TURTLE, baby!” (The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle)
Of course he decided he was family, and of course he believes that connecting Draxum with family is going to grow Draxum into a better person. Mikey is all about embracing the wonderfully unique, diverse, and fascinating people in this world and finding the joy and beauty in even the darkest, ugliest places.
Now, there are three other teenage mutant ninja turtles in Mikey’s world.
Mikey Relationships:
I’ve talked about Mikey’s relationships in all the previous Typing posts, but will try to continue here. What KILLS me, though, is we were on the cusp of some surely-great Mikey episodes before Nickelodeon interfered, which would have made this entire post much, much easier (T-Hex, the Turtle Tots episode, ‘Wedding Crashers’). So I’m going a little out on some projected limbs, here.
Raph: It’s interesting that though Mikey is usually supportive of Raph, Raph tends to be less supportive of Mikey. He’s hesitant to let him go on a solo mission (Hot Soup: The Game), or back up his and Donnie’s plan in One Man’s Junk. I think this was really going to be explored in the planned episode where Mikey and Raph confront each other about this: Mikey is growing up, becoming his own person, and Raph needs to let him grow. He can’t keep him sheltered as the Big Brother all the time. This would cause an ENFP 4 a lot of friction if they can’t explore for themselves and stretch their wings.
Donnie: Mikey has a close relationship with Donnie, and there’s a lot of team-up episodes with the two of them (Repo Mantis, One Man’s Junk, the fight in Bug Busters, etc.) There’s also a dozen little moments of affection between the two, hugs and pats on the head that indicate a lot of sweetness (Hot Soup: The Game, Bug Busters). Donnie’s the closest brother Mikey has to also being a creator: he builds inventions, and engineering marvels, Mikey creates art in graffiti and culinary forms. Additionally, they both love music and dance (Mascot Melee, Lair Games). That is a great environment for Mikey’s unique, creative side to grow in, probably seeking more of Donnie’s company as Raph’s becomes stifling.
Leo: There are a surprising number of similarities between Leo and Mikey. They get along as easy as breathing, hanging out in a number of casual off-screen ways (Mrs. Cuddles, Sparring Partner, You Got Served). Mikey’s competitive streak can exacerbate Leo’s, as they share that 3 on the Enneagram, but Leo is also one of Mikey’s biggest supports. He goes against Raph in Hot Soup: The Game, to let Mikey go on his solo mission. He points out in Origami Tsunami that Mikey is known for his legendary optimism. Mikey is Leo’s Hype-Man in Shell in a Cell and Leo encourages Mikey while he’s masquerading in the hippo costume (Newsworthy). They’re pretty solid.
Overall, Mikey is a genuine, authentic, creative and expressive turtle who is not afraid to meet people where they are. His emotional openness, curiosity, and solid sense of self make him a truly engaging friend, ally, and loved one. I wish we could see him challenged a bit more, and truly the center of an episode exploring his traits, but until then, we’ll love him as he is.
For more information on the ENFP and Enneagram 4 personality types, click here:
https://www.16personalities.com/enfp-personality
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-4/
https://www.elisabethbennettenneagram.com/post/the-happy-four
https://personalityhunt.com/4w5-vs-4w3-similarities-and-differences/
https://www.crystalknows.com/enneagram/type-4/wing-3
#rottmnt#rise of the tmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt mikey#rottmnt michelangelo#long post#essay#personality types#myers briggs#mbti#ENFP#enneagram 4#enneagram type 4#4w3#enneagram 4w3#this is the most overdue post I've probably ever made#and I still feel like not all my thoughts are quite together#there's so many little Mikey moments scattered throughout#ALL the episodes#that it's just so hard to cite#or fully explain#saverottmnt#give us more seasons!#Mikey fans#would love to add to this#please feel free to share your thoughts
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In my Zeus bag today so I'm just gonna put it out there that exactly none of the great Ancient Greek warrior-heroes stayed loyal and faithful and completely monogamous and yet none of them have their greatness questioned nor do we question why they had the cultural prominence that they did and still do.
Jason, the brilliant leader of the Argo, got cold feet when it came to Medea - already put off by some of her magic and then exiled from his birthland because of her political ploys, he took Creusa to bed and fully intended on marrying her despite not properly dissolving things with Medea.
Theseus was a fierce warrior and an incredibly talented king but he had a horrible temper and was almost fatally weak to women. This is the man who got imprisoned in the Underworld for trying to get a friend laid, the man who started the whole Attic War because he couldn't keep his legs closed.
And we cannot at all forget Heracles for whom a not inconsiderable amount of his joy in life was loving people then losing the people around him that he loved. Wives, children, serving boys, mentors, Heracles had a list of lovers - male and female - long enough to rival some gods and even after completing his labours and coming down to the end of his life, he did not have one wife but three.
And y'know what, just because he's a cultural darling, I'll put Achilles up here too because that man was a Theseus type where he was fantastic at the thing he was born to do (that is, fight whereas Theseus' was to rule) but that was not enough to eclipse his horrid temper and his weakness to young pretty things. This is the man that killed two of Apollo's sons because they wouldn't let him hit - Tenes because he refused to let Achilles have his sister and Troilus who refused Achilles so vehemently that he ran into Apollo's temple to avoid him and still couldn't escape.
All four of these men are still celebrated as great heroes and men. All four of these men are given the dignity of nuance, of having their flaws treated as just that, flaws which enrich their character and can be used to discuss the wider cultural point of what truly makes a hero heroic. All four of these men still have their legacies respected.
Why can that same mindset not be applied to Zeus? Zeus, who was a warrior-king raised in seclusion apart from his family. Zeus who must have learned to embrace the violence of thunder for every time he cried as a babe, the Corybantes would bang their shields to hide the sound. Zeus learned to be great because being good would not see the universe's affairs in its order.
The wonderful thing about sympathy is that we never run out of it. There's no rule stopping us from being sympathetic to multiple plights at once, there's no law that necessitate things always exist on the good-evil binary. Yes, Zeus sentenced Prometheus to sufferation in Tartarus for what (to us) seems like a cruel reason. Prometheus only wanted to help humans! But when you think about Prometheus' actions from a king's perspective, the narrative is completely different: Prometheus stole divine knowledge and gifted it to humans after Zeus explicitly told him not to. And this was after Prometheus cheated all the gods out of a huge portion of wealth by having humans keep the best part of a sacrifice's meat while the gods must delight themselves with bones, fat and skin. Yes, Zeus gave Persephone away to Hades without consulting Demeter but what king consults a woman who is not his wife about the arrangement of his daughter's marriage to another king? Yes, Zeus breaks the marriage vows he set with Hera despite his love of her but what is the Master of Fate if not its staunchest slave?
The nuance is there. Even in his most bizarre actions, the nuance and logic and reason is there. The Ancient Greeks weren't a daft people, they worshipped Zeus as their primary god for a reason and they did not associate him with half the vices modern audiences take issue with. Zeus was a father, a visitor, a protector, a fair judge of character, a guide for the lost, the arbiter of revenge for those that had been wronged, a pillar of strength for those who needed it and a shield to protect those who made their home among the biting snakes. His children were reflections of him, extensions of his will who acted both as his mercy and as his retribution, his brothers and sisters deferred to him because he was wise as well as powerful. Zeus didn't become king by accident and it is a damn shame he does not get more respect.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#greek mythology#It's Zeus Apologist day actually#For the record Jason is my personal favourite of these guys#The argonauts are extremely underrated for literally no reason#And Jason's wit and sheer ability to adapt along with his piousness are traits that are so far away from what usually gets highlighted#with the typical Greek warrior-hero that I've just never stopped being captivated by him#Conversely I still do not understand what people see in Achilles#I respect him and his legacy I respect the importance of his tale and his cultural importance I promise I do#However I personally can't stand the guy LMAO#How do you get warned twice TWICE both by your mother and by Athena herself that going after Apollo's children is a bad idea#And still have the audacity to be mad and surprised when Apollo is gunning for Specifically You during the war you're bringing to His City#That You Specifically and Exclusively had a choice in avoiding#ACHILLES COULD'VE JUST SAID NO#I know that's not the point however so many other members of the Greek camp were simply casualties of Fate in every conceivable way man#Achilles looked at every terrible choice he could possibly make said “Well I'm gonna die anyway 🤷🏽” and proceeded to make the choice#so hard that he angered god#That's y'all's man right there#I left out Perseus because truthfully I don't actually know much about him#I haven't studied him even a fraction as much as I've studied some of the other big culture heroes and none of this is cited so i don't wan#to talk about stuff I don't know 100%#Anyway justice for Zeus fr#Gimme something give me literally anything other than the nonsense we usually get for him#This goes for Hera too btw#Both the king and queen of the skies are done TERRIBLY by wider greek myth audiences and it's genuinely disheartening to see#If y'all could make excuses for Achilles to forgive his flaws y'all can do it for them#They have a lot more to sympathise with I'll tell you that#(that is a completely biased statement; you are completely free and encouraged to enjoy whichever figures spark joy)#zeus
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it's incredible how every single time you write a paper you miraculously find a resource no citation style guide has ever even heard of before
#shitpost#quil's unholy underworld#HOW is it so hard to find rules about citing course readers#it's just an anthology of research papers. why is this the most difficult part of the entire process#SURELY there are rules about this SOMEWHERE
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i constantly forget that wiityispb is a keepblr joke and i always use the “what if i told you…” line and NO ONE EVER GETS IT
#yall i made a letterboxd review with the “what if i told you” 😭💀#my life is so hard guys 😔💔#like none of my friends have read kotlc they’re so fake smh#this fandom has changed me#i love keepblr tho it’s so amazing despite its flaws#tumblrs just lowkey the superior social media#kotlc#kotlc fandom#fitz vacker#wiityispb#what if i told you#keeper of the lost cities fandom#keeper of the lost cites#keeper of the lost cities#keepblr
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Q: Did being on Supernatural make you believe more in supernatural things or be more skeptical? […] Jensen: Honestly, I would say probably more skeptical, um, and that's because-- well, I guess I've always been a little bit of a skeptic. But, I felt like we were dealing with so much, especially early on that was all rooted in real mythology and real lore and real kind of urban legends that I was like, "If any of this stuff is real, we are really playing with fire, cause we're doing the real things." And nothing ever happened. So I kinda was like "eh, this is-- this is bullshit." Jared: I can send you the video of your house that you sent to me [danneel's ghost video] Jensen: That didn't happen on set! That was air conditioning.
[njcon24]
#njcon24#jensen ackles#jensen24#skepticism#thought it was really interesting cause i'd never heard him give this specific answer to this question that they've gotten so many times#and there were just several things in this panel pinging so hard the parts of my brain that want to hear about his deconstruction#(whatever that may be)#like citing the idea that people might perceive color differently and thus experience reality differently because of their physical brains#it's giving science boy materialist hottie vibes#so pingy#deconstruction
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Sometimes I wonder if people played the same game that I did
#disco elysium#de#disco elysium meta#harry du bois#hdb#you play as the World's Most Sincere Man omfg#i read the full article and it's. not bad per se. lot of good takes in there#but the author came away with the overall take that Disco Elysium Is Too Bleak And Cynical To Be Truly Great#they cite examples like:#harry being self loathing even if you try to make him not so#harry going back to the rcm after the game ends instead of becoming a communist revolutionary#the fact that the game makes fun of you even if you take the Communism route#and the way that “The game's only moment of vulnerability comes from a bug”#which is just. so bizarre.#this is the Humanity Is Fundamentally Beautiful game#this is the Hope In A Hopeless World game#this is the Un Jour Je Serait De Retour Près De Toi game#this is the Life Gets Hard But We Go On game#for fuck's sake this is the Something Beautiful Is Going To Happen game#even at it's bleakest and most cynical this gane oozes sincerity from every facet
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if i have to sit through one more conversation in which i have to listen to someone chirp about the benefits of AI, i am going to stab someone
#my teacher is gonna make us have an AI unit 😨😨#what the fuck even is an AI unit#this is ethnic studies#and every time i have to sit there and act like the other person has a point when they're all just saying the exact same thing#“oh but it's impressive” yeah that's cause it's copied off the uncredited works of actual writers you dumbass#“yeah but i just use it to write quick emails” that's so fucking embarrassing what do you mean you can't write a fucking email#“i only use it as a tool” a tool for what? generative AI is a sad inefficient excuse of a 'tool' just use google it's not that hard#it's actually quite sickening not even gonna lie#i'll be talking to people who are supposed to be good at their job#and fully grown adults who i expect to be at least moderately competent when it comes to writing and they're out here relying on chatgpt#and i'll see people using chatgpt as a source too#like what happened to citing our sources? what happened to using credible sites? chatgpt is not a source#this is like basic middle school level media literacy#and not only that#but what also disgusts me is that these people don't even seem to care that AI is awful for the planet#it doesn't matter if your ugly fucking art is draining a whole goddamn lake because it's “pretty” and “impressive”#fucking hell#give me a break#fuck generative ai#me and the homies hate ai#anti ai#mxpotatoposts#jesus christ these tags are like 10 times longer than my actual post lmao
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I'm in a reference class right now and I just get so irrationally angry about the requirements.
Like, obviously, the purpose of the class is to make sure all the theoretically-future (or sometimes current) librarians know how to actually look things up AND verify sources AND in a wide variety of subjects and topics. Yes, good, valuable, important.
BUT I hate it so much. I hate questions that sound like they came from an alien whose best human impression comes from old chatbots: "Who is Zora Neale Hurston? What is she known for? Does Sparkle Library have any of her books?" why are you asking the first two questions if you clearly know them enough to ask the third "What's this geologic feature I saw in town? What's its history? Where is it?" can I point you to Google Maps please "What is the meaning of the word fandom?" why am I required to find you four verified resources on a dictionary definition "Can you help me find articles about this topic" yes but our professor hasn't actually given us examples of how they'd 'verify' articles so IDK if this will work even though it's literally exactly how I'd do this in my actual library job where I provide reference services to college students.
#maybe it's that the prof wants things formatted in what feels like an unnatural way to me#like sorry if I cite Best Ref Websites 2003 to someone IRL I think that'd sound Dubious even if the site is still good 21 yrs later y'know?#I don't even know if I think there's a better way to teach this--I just hate the formality of it all#it feels so unnatural even though it's a valuable skill/knowledge#I'm currently signed up for the advanced reference class next and I think I'm gonna get my advisor to change my plan#because I will explode with another semester of this#library school#grad school#I am trying very hard not to assume I know things just because I already provide reference services#(especially since my job usually keeps to a fairly narrow type of reference)#but it's difficult when it feels like the alternative is 'Reference Provided by Exactly Zero Real Life People Ever'
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Pecco and Pedro are probably the people who more than anyone else want to beat Marc. Pecco because he is forced to do it for a matter of survival, his bet next year is to be able to win against Marc with the same bike. Pedro wants to win the first world championship with Marc in MotoGP, even better if he wins it against him, because of course that’s what he wants. I MotoGP your teammate is your first enemy, as surreal as it is, it would be more likely to see Pecco and Pedro helping each other (which would be unlikely anyway because they aren’t the type of people who do that) than one of them helping their teammate , especially if it's Marc. If anything Marc and Pecco have to be intelligent enough to at least not take each other out Portimao style, because in that case there will be someone behind them ready to bite
so I'm going to jump in right away by saying, I know this ask acknowledges it's unlikely but, yeah, pedro and pecco will not be helping each other in any meaningful sense - because they are both serious challengers to each other and they know it. sometimes, riders can be known to help non-team members in fairly small low-key ways (see in this post valentino accusing marc of deliberately towing ducati riders to get them ahead of his actual rivals in brno 2014). for both pecco and pedro, marc is definitely the bigger focus, but they are both perfectly aware of the danger the other poses, and will not be inclined to treat each other as anything other than an active threat
that being said! of course pecco has already nicely demonstrated this season that he does approach his marc fights differently than he does those with other riders (which is broadly the correct and smart thing to do, even if the specifics can be critiqued). portimao even gave us the direct comparison between pecco/pedro and pecco/marc! part of it, yes, will just be an element of self-preservation - marc is now back to being a major roadblock for winning any future championships, and he'll be in pecco's house so will of course require... extra attention. apart from that, it absolutely would be the most meaningful way pecco could win a championship, by beating the famous marc marquez on equal machinery... nobody has done that before, and it would instantly dispel any remaining doubts about pecco's ability and cement his legacy as one of the greats of the sport. he wants to beat marc so badly because marc is one of the two riders he's always been chasing... and marc's absence has left all the young pretenders in this odd place where they've taken the crown but don't quite believe it's theirs yet. (just to say this again, I personally don't share the view that marc's absence diminishes those titles in any way, but it is of course interesting when the riders themselves have these insecurities.) there was that interview from early-ish last year where pecco talked about some of his personal limitations and how he views his own status in the sport:
fascinating, isn't it? of course, I'm sure a second title will have helped to some extent in making him feel a little more entitled to that status in the sport - but this is not the kind of thing valentino or casey or jorge or marc ever would have said. there's a self-consciousness to pecco, an awareness of his uncertain, shaky journey to the top of the sport, how he's fully cognisant of how different he is to those names... which can be a problem at times - delusion is an athlete's life blood, and while the level headed insight pecco expresses here is arguably admirable, it is not necessarily helpful for him as a champion. on the other hand, sometimes lacking a little in the delusion department can be a good thing if it allows you to deliberately improve yourself, pushed on by the knowledge that you still have a long way to go... pecco's biggest self-inflicted wounds have tended to come when he's at his most comfortable - you can theorise about why this happens, but maybe that striver mindset is exactly what he needs to keep him going. it's still quite the admission to describe his 2022 season as more incomplete than either valentino or marc's title runs. (mind you, it's arguably even less complete a season than some of their misses - of course with valentino you have the obvious ones, but did you know that marc scored an average of 13.44 points in 2015 vs pecco's average of 13.25 in 2022? obvious caveat that in 2015 there were considerably fewer competitive bikes and barely any capable of regularly challenging for race wins.) the need to prove himself is always there with pecco... it keeps peaking through with him, and it absolutely peaks through in his approach to marc. yes, yes, acosta is the future, jorge martin has been his title rival more recently... but of course, beating marc would be special. do you think pecco ever dreamed that of it? do you think he really believed that he could before he was already premier class champion? with most champions, you would say it's likely. with pecco, I'm not quite so sure
as for pedro, yeah, obviously, that's just the cycle continuing lol. deeply curious what those two regularly competing at the sharp end of races looks like. pedro has kinda kept his distance, isn't that much of a marc fan himself... when he talks inspirations he tends to bring up schwantz, stoner, pedrosa, and of course rossi
schwantz is far from an unusual pick amongst riders, though as the years pass perhaps gradually more so - it certainly reveals an appreciation for the history of the sport. as do the other choices, in a way... let's not forget that acosta was eight years old when casey retired. of course back in the day casey and dani themselves got plenty of criticism for how 'boring' they were - that's just how these things go! nobody's ever nostalgic for the present etc etc
pedro did also talk last year about how the public wants celebrations and rivalries, critiquing how friendly riders are nowadays and saying people want battles like jorge/dani, valentino/marc, and so on (full clip here)
heartwarming: global number of people who still care about the valentino/sete rivalry is now confirmed at 2 (two)
obviously, you can't just go out and manufacture feuds because you're feeling like it, and pedro's had a pretty quiet rookie season in that sense. but once he feels like he's settled in and can challenge the infamous marc marquez in an actual title fight? on the basis of this rhetoric, you'd at least hope he's not going to be too shy in taking on the challenge. of course he too wants to beat marc more than anyone else... again, it's a question of legacy, how pedro clearly situates himself within the same lineage as both valentino and marc - even if personally he aspires to be more of a successor to the former than the latter. always better to take the crown for yourself, right? this is a kid who's clearly into the history of the sport and is already determined to make himself a big part of that story... weaving himself into that narrative by taking on a legend of the past, taking on the task of disposing with that legend himself. plus, given pedro is so aware of that history - he knows that what people remember are the rivalries. he wants some of that for himself! it'll be interesting to see how proactive he'll be in making that happen, certainly seems like an enterprising young lad
anyhow, yes, plenty of potential for both of those dynamics. and yes, they do very much want to beat marc - but if we're talking about who wants to beat him the most, jorge martin probably deserves a mention right around now. does have to be said that something dumb like the portimao thing is costing pecco and marc this year. it's kind of gone under given the sheer bucketloads of points all the title contenders are throwing away, but pecco would be eight not eighteen points behind in the standings if he had settled for sixth in portimao, and for marc it would be twenty four rather than thirty five points if he'd backed out of the move and had another go on the next lap. relatively unlikely to make a difference at the end of the season... though for mr title decider pecco bagnaia, it sure might be! I did joke about making the pecco/marc portimao thing tradition, but generally speaking two top riders crashing each other out isn't that common a thing, and it's pretty..? rare? that it's the same two riders on multiple occasions? I'm drawing a bit of a blank here, to be honest... then again, title contenders do seem to crash rather more than they used to (admittedly they also have a lot of opportunities now) - so maybe this is going to become a more regular occurrence. but what is more likely to happen is that when you have two competitive riders on the same bike, they do run the risk of taking turns stealing points from each other at the circuits where their bike is at its best. I think pecco and marc can probably minimise this given what a good all-round bike the ducati is across a range of different circuits, and also given that as individual riders they do at least seem to be reasonably distinct in what their strongest and weakest tracks are. all in all, I kind of doubt they'll cost each other like that next year... though admittedly if portimao is anything to go by I may be tempting fate
#still think marc's gonna WIN that fight and it could easily be one sided but I do *hope* it'll be interesting at least#pedro citing casey and schwantz together... actually wonder how casey feels about schwantz these days#brr brr#batsplat responds#//#i think my favourite moment of 'man you people really will not help each other' was late 2017#where you did kinda look at jorge/vale and go. guys marc's about to take a SIXTH title. those are YOUR numbers he's surpassing/threatening#and valentino was the one who mathematically killed his teammate's chance of beating marc by finishing right ahead of him at pi#whereas jorge... well. you know#it's quite funny because the whole time during pi '17 i did have a bit of my brain go 'oh god what if valentino makes marc crash'#because that was some HARD racing and can you IMAGINE what the discourse would've been??#so many people would've assumed he did it on purpose to try and stop marc from winning another title. and it could've done just that!!#kind of ironic? funny? tragic? fitting? that their actual next conflict ended up being over something so incredibly deeply pointless#another miss from my side was having a bit of a feeling about catalunya 2019 given it felt marc had been kinda terse all weekend#bit too close to valentino a bit too often!!#though i suppose it wasn't as much a 'miss' as it was 'jorge what the fuck was that'. i still think i was onto something with that race#wow this is a bit of a tangent... anyway idk always healthy to correct for how self centred these blokes are#not just in the sense of being selfish but also in that they're just thinking about themselves#that being said if you put motegi 2010 and phillip island 2017 side by side it is kind of interesting...#current tag
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listening to ppl react to brokeback mountain is such a great way to identify who is good at paying attention to subtext and who is not lol
so many podcasters have cited the scene where theyre on their last campring trip together and jack tells ennis he has a girl hes been seeing on the side as proof of jack's bisexuality or whatever and like. look. you can argue whatever sexuality you want for him, but if ur gonna do that, CITE A DIFFERENT SCENE!
the whole reason the scene w david harbour and anna farris was written into the script at all was so that later in the story, when jack's dad tells ennis that he had another guy who was going to come up there and live w him on his parent's ranch, we realize that the "rancher's wife" jack said he'd been sneaking around with back in texas was actually the same ranch neighbor jack's dad was talking about, meaning jack was lying to ennis
and thats also why ennis kind of freezes for a beat when jack's dad says that, bc he's making the same connections the audience already did. or at least was supposed to lol
#its not that hard to understand people#i bet theyd have an even harder time picking that up if they just read the short story and had not seen the movie lol#cause that whole scene w david harbour and jacke gyllenhaal was not in the short story at all#we dont see any of jacks life in the short story so the only references we get to that mysterious rancher is when jack says hes been#hooking up with his ranch neighbors wife and then later when the dad says that whole thing about the ranch neighbor of his#like that scene was written into the script to make things MORE CLEAR#and ppl still dont get it#its just funny to me idk#anyways i love listening to movie podcasts talk abt this movie cause i love seeing ppls different reactions and interpretations of the film#but if ur gonna argue that jack is attracted to both men and women then please use a different argument ppl. thats the wrong scene to cite#brokeback mountain#still brokeback posting
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The actor Junius Brutus Booth in costume as Edmund Mortimer in Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1 (1823), painted by John B. Neagle
#shakespeare#the henriad#art#this was john wilkes booth's father.................. so for that reason i will not be tagging the actor by name lol#idk WHAT kind of weirdos i would invite to my blog by doing that but for historical transparency i did cite the actor#listen. i. he died in 1852 i bet he sucked as a person but he didn't assassinate anybody okay#the portrait is bitchin and i found it while looking up#henry iv part 1#i henry iv#william shakespeare#edmund mortimer#john b. neagle#i wish there were more resources to learn about the lady mortimer#i also wish she had more actual dialogue in the play i find her so interesting#i wonder what elizabethan performances were like of her!!! bc all of her dialogue is just [speaks in welsh] or [sings in welsh]#it makes it so hard to imagine her as a reader. normally i like the abstract exercise of envisioning plays in my head but#wo her own words it's so much less of an approachable challenge#i don't even speak welsh too#and i wonder what the history of her being represented on stage is like#did they normally have an actual welsh actor/actress play her? i sort of DOUBT it was originally like that in the 1590s#but im sure if it's a high-budget production done today it's only natural to seek out a welsh-speaking actress and have her collaborate#w her own dialogue? right?#it's so surreal too bc shakespeare's works almost never acknowledge differences in language#it rarely has much to do w the plot#the only other passing reference i can think of off the top of my head is 'twas greek to me' and that was offstage someone spoke greek#in julius caesar#idk!!!! man!!!!! i just find it interesting#most of shakespeare's characters wouldn't have even natively spoken english so it's just never mentioned#but in the history plays. well of course they spoke english they were englishmen! except those celtic ppls#who always come up as just. iconic charismatic bastards and rebels. it's a very prejudicial interpretation but i have fun w it
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omgg lol [guy who won't stop going "more like scapeGOATED" voice] now hold! on!! lmao [same guy just saw encanto voice] Hold on!!!
#& [it might be 5am but i'll still see if i can draw some] trackpad homemade reacts. inhales & hands to head/face x9 then walking off#site giving pretty random Suggested assortment there where i was like oh right sure. prob not tumblr keywords captures lmaooo#(plus happened to have it open in firefox) but my god Not the scapegoated literal seers lmfao. whoooo. my god#also it was just really good anyways like right nice. damn#the (queerrr) seerrr the perceiverrr the truth tellerrr the ruinerrr the scapegoat be-errr the internalizerrr the neurodivergerrr#& now i Know there is 0% chance ppl weren't putting ''always a gay cousin or it's you (avuncular edition)'' in that thing#family tree design not even leaving space for the hypothetical kids of this relative we mostly pretend is nonexistent hmm#also that necessarily. it's giving all intents & purposes Disability abt a dozen ways & it's saying [accept that] vs [we'd better fix him]#you don't cite said [it's giving disability] as part of the We All Hate The Horrible Little Freak scapegoating justification & then be like#''actually we don't have to do that anymore b/c he's sooo normal :)'' or not if you're serious about [don't scapegoat your family] anyways#which like oh ok they Are serious so The Weirdo's scapegoating / casting out / lack of support Isn't justified#so he's still weird & you just gotta get over that b/c otherwise. bye. having a natural rat affinity is such a slay btw#& we've all been there like ''you NEVER want two scapegoats talking it's Over if they do'' + littlest kid is like um. they're the best#plankton voice Correct! inhale i'm so impressed like. getting to go ''finally someone Normal'' (serious abt letting someone Be Weird(tm))#which also always counts as like mm hard time suggesting someone's Not queer & also autistic for a start lmao. an award#adding in suggested layers like talking to oneself; talking Oddly / w difficulty; physical uncoordination; rituals ; acting; animal friend#the layer of ''& all that's fine? like?'' again rather than him ever suppressing or even changing it so far as it's suggested#besides that it's observed as Weird like but so? or else what? nonrhetorical: hostility / rescinded support & driving someone off is what?#& that Truth like the [worse treatment / exclusion / scapegoat] oft recipe for someone giving the support they're not getting themself#again Never let the [ppl both experiencing this] talk oh it's So over. or the child who's all i like family support & kindness actuallyy...#obviously also like the complete opposite of billions. knowing what they're about & letting this Just As Beloved crucial guy be So Weird#but billions Also [hmm feels right for our scapegoated guy to Perceive / Tell Truths / openly want/need & then be hurt] now get his ass#anyway [guy who could always go way on could go way on but only has thirty tags & it's 6am & i still mean to try some drawing] voice#remarkable amt of So True & ''it feels like ppl on the same page w/exactly what they're doing are all behind this''#remarkable amount of concentrated My God That Is So A Slay located in bruno all at once. what a gift#sticking to ''sometimes someone In Your Group is Weird. Disabled. deal'' firmly enough there's no ;) oh u can bet we'll Fix Him in the end#everyone always assumes the worst so....me when i'm [always as a kid yearning for Living In Secret Passages]. emile gtmpota?#oh congrats to whatever rando who will be having his dramatic gay reunion w/bruno just out of frame obviously. i perceive#now imagine if That rando was....emile gtmpota! what a crossover event. haunting4haunting. do i have enough tags for this lmao. yea#& having 1 more tag to say: as though the [endless serving] isn't enough bruno's also as close to gender envy as it gets. incl rats; sure
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so I impulsively entered an online secret santa earlier this month, because I wanted to maximize the amount of gifts I'd get (I already get a ton IRL) and knew that flattering both My gifter and giftee would almost definitely result in praise for Myself (or at least a quietly maintained reputation of kindness), but SURPRISE SURPRISE I've spent years on crip time and that didn't suddenly change. so I had until christmas to submit it and I JUST finished it on christmas eve.
but who cares. like I said, I don't care about being "productive" or "upstanding" or the like, so submitting work last minute isn't inherently a problem for Me (glances at the pile of months-old, willfully ignored schoolwork in My room).
the problem, however, is that I spent all of this time--thus building up the public expectation that it'd be great--and the final product basically looks like this:
#personal#I swear I believe everything I do is great (which I'm sure I'm right about because everyone else agrees with Me)#but visual art is the one thing I'm self-conscious about#imagine waiting all month for a gift and the person keeps going 'I'm working on it!! I'm working hard!! I'm almost done!!'#and it comes out as an off-model drawing of your second-favorite character with no background and unrealistic shading#TBF My own secret santa's work was sorta wonky too but I actually really appreciated it for the heart and effort#so maybe I'm just being too self-critical. if an entitled bitch of a narc can appreciate subpar work a 'normal' person can too#REGARDLESS I need to find some way to lessen the blow. preserve My reputation just in case#I don't want to go too far into pity-farming like 'oh I'm sorry for sucking I'm malnourished'#so perhaps just citing some vague difficulties or a generic 'sorryyy I've never drawn him before' (which is true) would do the trick#I just need to find a way to make sure I'm not seen as totally fucking incompetent here
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At the beginning when the guys are just getting to know each other, Mike and Davy get into a fight (something silly and easily avoidable, but they don’t really know each other yet and they’re suddenly living in very close quarters, tensions are high). Mike loses his temper and starts yelling (he hasn’t learned to regulate his emotions yet and is used to yell or be yelled at). Davy (who’s the newest to the group and not used to being surrounded by this much testosterone (see: 3 sisters)) gets lowkey terrified since Mike is a lot bigger than him and is extremely scary when mad. Davy’s eyes start to water and he’s kinda frozen in fear and doesn’t know what to do (the others don’t step in because they’re also unsure and its the first big fight in the Pad) and begins to (unwantedly) regress. Mike notices this and is kinda like ‘oh shit’ and immediately calms down and is trying to apologise but it’s too late and Davy’s in tears. Mike has to comfort him and soothe him and from then on the rest is history.
AAAAH OH MY GOODNESS!!
#asks#the monkees#mike and davy gain so much trust and honestly they all do. they all learn.#i’m a big believer in the monkees strongly believing in consent. I cite this to the 90s special where micky says “’no thanks’ when he thinks#davy asks him for a kiss (i still think it’s crazy this was written by mike nesmith) but like micky can just say no thanks! and it’s all#cool and chill and groovy!#just from living with each other and learning from each other the boys learn how to navigate all of their individual limits#it’s a learning process that never stops but they all love each other so much and try so hard for a healthy relationship between the four#of them (be that relationship platonic familial or strictly professional music buddies take your pick but in all of those aspects they make#it work)#i love the monkees so much 😭 😭 😭#sweet davy poor thing#as mike gets older he learns more and more and gets so gentle and mellow#he’s the best to take a nap on top of on the couch#all three other monkees agree on this
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dang it may be 3 am but seeing all these dumb takes on soviet history by tankies has made me Really wanna get back on shostakovichposting
like . soviet history is never as cut and dry as many people on multiple sides of an ideological argument will have you believe, but I will say that researching it properly will make you hate tankies
#rambles#anyway thinking of the lady izdihar video where she was like “the 30s soviet union was a lot of experimentation#and sometimes those experiments didn't work out right!"#like collectivization and censorship and the holodomor and the great purges. ok#like is soviet history nuanced . sure; history always is#but acting like the 30s was just “experimenting” as if stalin was completely naive and had the best intentions is Fucking Stupid at best#and at worst very harmful#I will acknowledge she's very well read but she's also extremely biased#and overly positive views of history in general aren't the way to combat overly negative ones#literally just . tell the truth and show nuance and state the facts and cite your sources#it's not hard#like I have opinions on plenty of historical figures and events#but if I'm trying to inform people on them in a serious context I will just state the facts as I know them#proper historical research is so so important guys
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i really don't think it's possible to have productive conversations about mental health without addressing how truly unlivable a lot of places in this world are becoming
like sometimes people have mental illness that can be helped with therapy and medication, but sometimes they're just having a natural reaction to the Horror of it all and the only true remedy is for life to suck less
#sorry bummer post#it just feels kind of empty watching influences talk about how important mental health is to them#and citing like....... the crisis text line lmao#all CTL has done is leave me waiting for hours and misgender me#i know i also have a different perspective than some bc my living situation is a fucking nightmare#so it is really hard to even have a moment of peace#but unfortunately i'd rather be here than barely surviving out on my own#also i live in america so there's that#i'm sure there are other countries where the govt doesn't hate its citizens and actually wants them to thrive#and i know there are countries that have it much worse than we do right now#but i think people here acting like nothing's wrong is what really bothers me#like it's not 'bad enough' yet for most people to acknowledge it#so people just talk about 'the mental health crisis' and blame like. smartphones#ness talks
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