#that is if dc lets us do this at all (not likely)

[unadulteratedsoulsweets]

A DC X DP IDEA #39

Timeline, which timeline?

Imagine dis…

It is always with the future going to the past, even with the limited time travel fics I see in the DC x DP tags it is always the future going back to the past to prevent something whether it is the end of the timeline or it is when Dan went back in time to ensure his younger self does the same thing to create him.

Flash family members going back in time to prevent another apocalypse, but let me offer you another idea here that involves my favorite tags.

….

Danny finds himself on another time-related mission in courtesy to Clockwork also known lovingly by the gremlin child as CW. At this point, Danny was no longer a stranger to the impromptu missions and errands by CW to fix timelines or to ensure a certain event happens. It happens too frequently to the point it turns Danny into an expert in exploring the past without creating a stray butterfly effect. As he got older, though 16 years old is still not adult whether you came from a related mission Danny.

Danny knows the importance of blending in choosing, rather than stealing, clothes that are time and period-accurate/authentic both in and out of the appearance of the clothing despite irritating his skin. Rather than buying clothes from the modern era aka his timeline he quickly saw how vastly different clothes feel and were created during such time. Danny even took the time by using CW’s medallion to stop time briefly to learn period-specific slang and mannerisms that made him look like he was part of their time.

Danny learning? Something that isn't about space, what’s more, it is about history?

Let’s just say, it was after a particularly embarrassing slip-up during his mission in a Victorian timeline.

As Danny went to more missions he began to understand how delicate time is, how Clockwork gambled with Fate in terms of him despite it was even before he had CW’s time medallion.

…

It was the early 1600s, and it was another time mission by CW to accompany some guy named Samuel Wayne and his wife toward an unnamed part of the US. Sorta became their guide and defacto bodyguard to the couple as CW gave him a brief explanation of how the couple is important in modern times.

As he waved goodbye to the couple that had just settled down to their newly built mansion, just as he was to open a portal home the ground below him began to open like some sort of portal. It wasn’t any portal the Ghost Zone could naturally form. As he fell through the mysterious portal he cant help but sigh a relief as the portal opened below him without any people to witness this.

…

It sent him tumbling across time, as moments later he landed hard on the concrete which after taking a quick feel and looking around the place he concluded to be in his time. It was a fight, between the JL heroes and some guys dressed in white. Not the GIW but scientists if he sees those formulas correctly.  

Before he could even think of going ghost or even turning invisible he was scooped up by a hero that he didn’t much recognize and fled from the fight with him in tow.

Even after the battle he tries to sneak out but for some reason, the entire JL is looking at him, especially Batman.

…

 To understand what on earth Is the JL doing, let’s go back a week prior.

The JL faced multiple threats from both in and out of their home planet so believe me when I say they have seen it all. This time, it is unique, they had heard in the form of vague rumors. Some scientists preach about their knowledge in creating a working time machine without any alien tech or magic to help it power it o, they only needed a sponsor to do it. Of course, all brush them off, after all, all bright minds are either already required by the heroes or by the villains themselves. When they hadn't heard from those wacko's for a while they just thought that those quacks stopped when they noticed nobody was going to take them seriously.

The heroes thought wrong, someone gave those scientists the funding they needed and was able to create a time machine fueled by one of Earth’s most toxic naturally occurring substances known by mankind.

Though the benefactor of the said scientists mysteriously vanished, the scientists on the other hand hired goons to be their bodyguards from anyone who dared to try to steal their work, as goons also cost less than hiring an actual bodyguard. The heroes were only summoned as the substance that was used not only did they have no proper certification but also they were following another lead thus leading some of the JL heroes who are in charge of the case towards the said scientist's headquarters.

They had just pulled the lever to test their machine, fearing for the worst and the thought of a rather large explosion due to the hazard around them started an immediate and forced evacuation as some of the scientists lifted a chair to defend their work, when it suddenly spat out something.

A young man dressed in what looked like a 1600s era of fashion, black hair and blue eyes. Looking bewildered at the sight around him, before anyone could even stop and think at what had just happened they immediately scooped out everyone outside just in time for an explosion to occur.

Of course, the scientists who were rescued are crying at their life’s work being blown up to nothing but ashes.

The rest of the heroes on the other hand are panicking, not only do their machinery work but they manage to pull someone from the past.

At first, they thought that he was just a civilian but when he uttered his name all eyes turned to Batman for help.

…

Danny didn’t like being interrogated while also maintaining his 1600 persona, as much as he would like to geek out to the heroes he still needed to maintain his mask. He didn’t come out to a portal that was made by CW add the fact that the majority of said heroes also saw him come out of that weird portal, so when they asked him for his name he gave them Samuel’s name to throw off them.

Still maintaining his persona, now adding Samuel’s lore to his acting, asked who are they and that he needed to get back his carriage to his now wife to find themselves a home.

Now he is surrounded by the vigilantes mainly from Gotham, with each of them being his bodyguard and his babysitter as Danny tries to exaggerate and be surprised and in awe of practically everything, from the floor to the glass to the food he ate.

As much as he would like to just swallow up the greasy cheeseburger he was given, he needed to gag and be horrified as he remembered the actual food he tasted during the times Samuel and his wife shared their food with him.

He just hopes the Robin with the sword would stop at subtly tell him about how great his linage would be, he barely has time for both the time missions that CW sends him and also his school work he does not want this about his love life in front of a kid.

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PS: If someone out there wants to continue or make a fic about this you are free to do so, don’t forget to tag me though.

[savanir]

DP x DC Prompt [21]

Danny who has finished school, distances himself more and more from his parents as they slide further into GIW madness, sabotages the portal, sees Vlad also actually getting wary of these government assholes, grows up, and then after a particularly rough fight becomes a Green Lantern. Then says “I do not want to do this anymore” and takes the opportunity immediately to dip and ditch earth and doesn’t at all mind being assigned to one of the far sectors. In fact when he finds out sector reassignment is a thing he requests it right away.

“Only request my aid for earth related things if there is no other option, otherwise I don’t want anything to do with that place anymore”

And both John and Hal are like, “uh, you know what- sure…” basically all Earth Lanterns get Earth fatigue, it’s normal. Though it usually takes some time.

Sadly stuff happens and Danny’s aid is needed, like it’s all Earth Lantern hands on deck, Sojourner is there too n everything.

And the moment things are working out and the situation seems resolved on Earth the GIW with the Fentons pull up and are like “You have eluded us for YEARS, but we knew you would return someday Phantom! this time you will not escape us!”

And Danny is like, “God fucking dammit- ok I have been here for too long, I’m heading back to my sector. And this time I am staying there, Earth be damned”

And like the threat has been contained so the other Green Lanterns follow Danny out into the stratosphere while these government goons are screaming bloody murder up at Phantom.

and Danny is like, “ok fine, I’ll give the tl;dr, so essentially, my existence is considered illegal by the US government and I don’t really want to get caught, experimented on and then terminated because of my biology”

“Are you serious?” “I promise you, I wish I was just making that up.” “And then you decided to just leave?” the ‘are you giving up? are you just letting this injustice stand??’ is unspoken but Danny can hear it. Or he’s just projecting his own hang ups about it all on them, that’s also possible. 

“I mean it has worked for me really well these past few years. if you want to look into it check out the Anti-Ecto Acts. But personally I’m over it, I can just no longer help with Earth that’s it”

[yandere-writer-momo]

Yandere DC Shorts: Drag You to Hell

Yandere Harvey “Two Face” Dent x Psychiatrist/ Childhood Friend Fem Reader

TW: Unhealthy relationship, uncomfortable themes, possessive and obsessive behavior, mention of childhood abuse, cursing (Two Face), sexual harassment (Two Face), NONCONSENSUAL KISSING, psychological horror, and themes that should not be romanticized

Tick. Tick. Tick. The clock on the wall filled the silence of the room while (your name) had a stare down with her patient, Harvey Dent.

This entire situation had thrown her for a loop. It was bizarre to see her beloved ex childhood friend fall from grace as fast as a shooting star broke her heart.

The popular and handsome District Attorney who was one of Gotham’s most eligible bachelors now sat broke and burned before her. The sight of his current state was certainly jarring. Especially since he stopped his attempts to reach out to her once he became District Attorney.

(Your name) had tried not to let the loss of their friendship since kindergarten get to her, but she had thought about him from time to time. She had even tried to reach out once a month while he was at the top of his career… yet it didn’t seem like he wanted her around.

After all, she was a psychiatrist while he had been a promising public figure. Harvey’s reputation could be at stake if he was caught with a shrink by the media. Unsavory rumors could pop up and tarnish his political career… one that must have been more important than a friendship that felt like family for two children from broken homes.

Even after he crashed and burned like Icarus who flew too close to the sun four years ago, he still hadn’t reached out to her. It made her feel as if he had grown embarrassed of her. And it was one of the worst feelings.

(Your name) wouldn’t treat him like her old friend though… because they have been strangers for the last seven years.

“Hello, Mister Dent.” (Your name) greeted the man she once knew nearly a decade ago, the same one whose intense gaze had tried to swallow whole for the last minute. “I am your psychiatrist, Doctor (last name).”

“…” Harvey only stared at her, he was uncharacteristically quiet for once. Which did little to calm her nerves.

“It seems you have been diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. What symptoms have you been-“

“It really is you.” Harvey’s voice cut in before she could finish her question. His voice was barely above a whisper and raspy, as if he hadn’t spoken for ages. That and she could tell he had been a heavy smoker.

(Your name) paused and glanced up at him. “Whatever do you mean?”

“Don’t play coy.” Harvey shifted in his straight jacket, his one good eye filled with desperation. “You know who I am.”

“I’m sorry, but I have no personal relationship with you, Mister Dent-“

(Your name) jumped when he suddenly leaned forward, his eyes feral with desperation like a cornered animal.

“Bull shit! Look at us, (your name)! It’s Harv!” He snarled, his arms tried to flail out of his straight jacket. “Look at us! Look-“

Guards rushed in to restrain him but he continued to shout in the top of his lunges. (Your name) felt terrified of what had become of her ex-childhood friend. He was so broken…

“I’m here! Please! Look at us!”

How could she not when he flailed against the guards like an animal with rabies? When he felt so familiar yet like a stranger to her? When he looked at her with those blue eyes filled with so much despair and loneliness?

The guards went to drag him away, yet she made sure to speak to him.

“Harvey Dent, I see you.”

Harvey stopped his violent movements which made it easier for the guards to carry him back to his cell. His eyes filled with stars and the right side of his face slightly flushed.

She saw them… his beloved childhood friend saw them. Harvey was finally reunited with the love of his life.

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Little hands held on another as the body of two twelve year olds huddled together. Harvey trembled as (your name) pressed her forehead to his.

“Your dad can’t hurt you here.” (Your name) reassured him. “You’re always safe with me, Harvey.”

“But what if he tries to hurt you?” Harvey shakily whispered.

“Then I’ll punch him in his fat nose!” The two kids laughed as they huddled closer. Their fingers interlaced.

“You’re always so brave, (your name)… I want to be brave too!”

“You will be a man one day, Harvey. A tall, strong man that will be very brave.” (Your name)’s smile was illuminated by the moonlight that streamed through the window. Her appearance even more angelic to the young boy. “You’ll do great things, you want to know how I know this?”

“How?” Harvey asked softly.

“Because I believe in Harvey Dent.” The two smiled at one another. Harvey had a blush on his cheeks.

“(Your name)?”

“Yes, Harv?”

“When we become adults and I do something with myself… I want you to be my wife.” Harvey softly told her. His pulse quick and his hands now clammy. “I’ll buy you a nice house and I’ll protect you from monsters and bad family members. We can have our own family! I just… I want to be with you forever.”

(Your name) smiled warmly at him as she held up her pinky for a childish pinky promise. “Then I’ll be your wife, Harv. I’ll be by your side forever.”

Harvey shot up from his dream with a shaky breath. His hand out stretched to link his pinky with (your name) in his dreams. The vivid imagination of one of his precious childhood memories.

“(Your name)…” Harvey sat up and examined his cell. Ah yes… this was his reality currently. He was in Arkham Asylum.

Harvey absentmindedly touched the disfigured half of his face. She didn’t turn away in disgust… there was still hope, right? (Your name)had always been so understanding.

“You worry too much, Harv. Be grateful I put so much work into keeping her alone for this long for us. She needed to be this lonely so she’ll be putty in our hands.” Two Face chuckled in his mind. “She is ours. Just like she’s always been and she won’t say no. She never had a choice.”

Harvey gulped as he began to fiddle with his double sided coin for comfort. Yes… the coin had let Two Face do what he had to do. The coin reassured him that she was theirs.

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(Your name) noticed Harvey didn’t act like he had their first session together since. The ex district attorney no longer needed the straight jacket either since he was cooperative now… yet the intensity of his mismatched gaze scared her a bit. He stared at her like she was his lover or his entire world… yet they hadn’t spoken in nearly a decade so maybe this was an attachment based on old familiarity? She could never know.

“I hear you have been eating again. I’m glad your appetite has returned, Mister Dent.”

“Please call me Harv.” Harvey begged, his eyes pleading. This was a request he often made to her, one she wasn’t sure if she, herself, was comfortable with. “I’d feel more comfortable if you did.”

She sighed but finally obliged. It had been a month since she became his doctor and he never stopped his request.

“Alright… I am glad you have an appetite, Harv.” (Your name) watched his expression light up instantly like a child on Christmas.

“Yes… the food isn’t great.” Harvey replied with a hint of a smile on the right side of his face. “But I need all the energy I can get.”

“How have the meds been working for you? Are you experiencing any side effects?”

“No, I’m not.” Harvey replied in his tenor voice. “Can I ask you a question, Doctor?”

(Your name) paused but gave him the green light. “You can ask me anything, Harv-“

“Are you married?”

(Your name) nearly choked on her spit. Of all questions to ask, he wanted to know her relationship status?

“No, I’m not.” (Your name) replied, but she noticed the way he began to self sooth with his hands. She was familiar with this tick of his. Harvey was excited since he always fiddled with his hands or his coin when he was anxious or excited.

“I noticed there wasn’t a ring on your finger.” His voice trailed off a bit as a rosy blush covered his cheek on the right side of his face.

“Yes. I work long hours since I started working here a few years ago so I haven’t had much time for dating, let alone looking into the prospect of marriage.” (Your name) told him. And then she accidentally let her personal feelings spill from her lips, “A lot of people do not want to be around a psychiatrist, you know.”

Harvey paused his hand soothing and tightly held his hands together. His eye filled with guilt and she caught herself instantly. That was extremely unprofessional of her.

“Oh, I apologize. I’m just a bit bitter about my career choice at times-“

“I’m sorry.” Harvey’s voice was barely above a whisper.

“You have nothing to apologize for-“ Slam! Harvey’s fist connected with the table between them as his face clenched in anger.

“No!” Harvey flipped like a switch, his expression twisted and his voice loud, “I shouldn’t have-“

(Your name) watched him pull back and hug himself. He bit his lip. “I’m sorry… I didn’t mean to raise my voice. I’m sorry.”

“It’s alright-“

“No… I’m not like my father or like your parent. I didn’t mean to yell.” Harvey shook his head in disgust. “I remember how much you hated when people yell.”

Ah, so she was right about his attachment due to their past. This may be a problem in the future… but she wasn’t sure her boss would care much of her personal past with Harvey since their relationship was never intimate.

“I forgive you. You’re going through a lot right now, Harv-“ he suddenly scooped her hands into his calloused and scarred one.

“You have no idea…” (your name) thought for brief moment he was speaking of his condition but then he began to press fervent kisses all over her knuckles and the back of her hands. His touches were reverent as if she were a precious piece of art. “How much we missed you.”

(Your name) gently tried to pull her hand back but he held on tighter.

“I love you. I want you.” (Your name) froze at the sudden voice change. Was this… the other personality surfacing?

“Harv?”

“I’m sorry, I just missed you so much. You’re mine.” Harvey seemed to have both personalities present with her right now. “I know I’m ugly now and I left you behind. Harvey thought was for your own good.”

“For my own good?” (Your name) asked Harvey who kept up with his tender kisses on her hands.

“I didn’t want you to get involved with the political world and be known by the mob.” Harvey admitted. “I… I don’t know what I’d do if something happened to you. I’d fucking kill them all.”

(Your name) let Harvey open up her hands and place his face in her palms. His smooth skin on his right side and the scarred skin on his left side was such a stark contrast against the soft flesh of her palms. Just like his condition…

“Harv, this is unprofessional-“

“To hell with unprofessionalism.” Two Face surfaced in an instant. “You have been mine since we were five and you’re going to be mine until one of us dies.”

Two Face roughly grabbed her cheeks with his scarred left hand. “Harvey was a coward for leaving without a word but he’s always been such a pussy. You’ve only became more beautiful over the years and you’re ready for picking. I’m glad my hard work has paid off.”

“Hard work?” (Your name) was filled with confusion. Whatever could he mean?

“Ah, you always have been so oblivious, baby girl.” Two Face chuckled, the permanent scowl on his face twisted up a bit into a smirk. “I’m happy I scared away any man that tried to get close to you. I couldn’t have anyone stealing our girl.”

Realization hit her, Two Face… had been the reason behind her loveless and sexless life? The last four years she had been stood up or ghosted but it had been Harvey all along?

“They wouldn’t know what to do with you. How to love you. How to fuck you.” Two Face chuckled as he leaned his face closer to hers so that their noses touched. “And trust me, we’ve seen the way you masturbate. I’m sure Harvey and I have something that could fill you up better than fingers ever could-“

(Your name) immediately tried to pull away at his disgusting innuendo, but Two Face easily held her face in place.

“Look at that blush on your cheeks. Seems that got you hot and bothered.”

“How dare you- mmphf!” Two Face leaned forward and passionately kissed her. His tongue intertwined with hers in a sinful dance.

It was so strange to feel how his lips felt against hers since it was alike kissing two different men…

Two Face tangled his hand in her hair so he could jerk her head back and deepen the kiss. His tongue completely dominated hers as his lips curled up into a cruel smirk. She could do nothing but let his tongue wriggle in her mouth until he had his fill. He was far too unpredictable to reject.

It wasn’t until her lungs burned for air that Two Face pulled away. A long string of saliva connected them while his eyes darkened to the point that they were the shade of deep sea rather than their usual sky blue.

“You taste even better than I thought.” Two Face chuckled at (your name)’s dazed expression. “Only a kiss and you’re so flustered? Imagine what I could do with my-“

(Your name) put her hands over his lips as she tried to catch her breath.

“Just who do you think you are?” (Your name)’s voice wasn’t as firm as she wanted it to be since she was breathless. Her eyes narrowed at the cocky look in this eye. This man in front of her was not Harvey… he was a pervert. “Isolating me for years, leaving me wondering what I did wrong for you to not speak to me- eek!”

(Your name) yanked her hand back when he dragged his tongue across her palm.

“It was for your own damn good.” Two Face spat. “We tried to keep you away from our dumpster fire of a life. It would been ideal but the coin decided you’re ours. Your fate was sealed the moment it landed on my side of the coin.”

“Harv, snap out of-“

“You promised to be our wife when we were younger.” Harvey’s voice mixed with Two Face’s as his expression softened slightly. “I have a manor and more money than ever. We can start that family we always wanted, the one you deserve.”

“Harv-“

“You’re ours. You’ll always be ours, even if I have to drag you to hell with me.”

[cheust]

Sassy reader, especially when they are overpowered but don’t want to be a hero. Like they don’t really mean to be sassy, but they live in the DC universe, the heroes and villains are divas that we all know 💁‍♀️💁💁‍♂️

Are you a vigilante? FFFF-uck no. You have no interest in being, even tho the possibility is nonexistent, pulverized or bothered and you know what? Valid, it’s so valid. Does it mean you aren’t skilled/powerful? Nope!

You: *using magic to make the manor shift a little so that the sun isn’t in your eyes while you eat breakfast* …

Dick, staring: You know the justice league is having tryouts soo-

You: You know you can still get therapy right?

—*—*—*—*—

Jason: I’m just saying it would make patrol way easi-

You: Say that again and I’m putting you in air jail again.

Jason: … please don’t. The cieling is so dusty..

—*—*—*—

Clark: *giving you a long monologue about being a hero*

You: *sniffles* Why can’t I have a choice? Why can’t I be happy as a person? Why are you trying to make me be unhappy?

Clark: *immediately folds and tries to apologize* N-No! It’s not like that at all- I’m just- you know- I

Martian Manhunter: *reading your mind*

You: [HAH! Works every time.]

—*—*—*—*—

Basically you’re a diva that wants to be a normal person. A normal person that’s insanely overpowered. Omg your Saiki K!!

You: The Dark Reunion can’t keep a bad bitch down *you can’t wear your favorite shirt today and you feel mildly inconvenienced*

Conner: is this a new terrorist group? I haven’t heard any briefings of them.

You: *sees a beautiful opportunity* Yes.

—*—*—*—*—

Tim is twitching like crazy. He wants to study you so bad. Like why? Why are you so overpowered and why are you so chill about it? DO NOT let him run tests on you, it’s really annoying

[glitter-stained]

Sense the current state of jason as character is stagnant do you think dc will ever purplish a good story of him, maybe he even kills of his red hood persona and goes on to be something else that would be something I would like to see but I don’t think it will happen. Dc will forever shoehorn him in to the batfamily. At least in his anti-villian era he was actually fun now his character is in a pitiful state

do u think theirs a chance of reinvent him as character anytime soon ?

Well first of all through spite everything is possible, so jot that down.

Like seriously, remember when it was so so incredibly over like Spiderman's Uncle Ben levels of over and then Under the Hood happened? Hell yeah I think dc will publish a good Jason story

Second I may not be the best person for this ask because I like my blorbos pitiful and miserable. Like yeah defiance is awesome but exhaustion -in characters who have been angry and alone for so long, beaten dog who got electrocuted too often to bite back- has a special place in my heart. But I also agree this has to be a transitional part of a story, the arc can't be "well he was hurt and then he was angry and then he was tired and he was miserable the whole time". Unless of course he ends up perma-dying in a really meaningful arc centered around his character but I'm not sure that'd be what I want for him, and we all know how lame dc is with permadeath nowadays. I'm also very mitigated with his villain side because yeah sometimes it's very fun and cathartic to see the angry/bad victim trope, but also the classismXpsychophobia of villain Red Hood sometimes are just too much; and also I'm a jaybin fan and sometimes I feel betrayed on jaybin's behalf by elements of his villainous characterization. (One day I'll write that damned UTH rewrite, I will).

With that being said!!! I love Jason because of his potential, he has so so much of it, that's what's exhausting about his many bad comics is that yeah. Yeah, dc can absolutely publish something more than good. They don't understand the goldmine they're sitting on in terms of potential.

What I'd love to see explored in hypothetical upcoming good comics (i'll talk more about it later with malfiora but for now)/how dc could go about reinventing his character :

1) addressing Jason's suicidality and getting him a functional support system (seriously, something's gotta give)

2) Get that boy a dog. Ik he had one at some point in N52 idc give him more dogs. Big ass rescue dog that's loyal and similar to him.

2) we need to figure out a way to let Jason keep being a Crime Alley/Park Row vigilant without being dependent on Batman. Like yeah he should explore the world away from him and heal but also i'm very uncomfortable with the idea that healing, for Jason, has to mean leaving the city and neighbourhood he grew up in and protected, has to mean be shoved out of his home by a guy who doesn't live there and, at least when Jason was a kid, only visited the place one time a year because of the anniversary of his parents' death- it's not fair and I won't accept it.

3) I so so agree about the "killing the red hood persona" or at the very least changing his vigilant name. Like I get the point, I understand the use he had for him, but his story can't be centered around the Joker forever (I keep thinking about the Joker's attitude to him in The Man who stopped Laughing and god, I can see a driving force to find himself as something else than what Batman and the Joker made him). At some point his name has to become something that is his and turned towards the future.

4) art + story that acknowledges how young he is (someone please let Jason take college class please please he deserves it)

5) perhaps most importantly: batman writers often sound like hardcore deontology or hardcore utilitarianism (and the occasional egoism) are the only acceptable moral philosophies. And for characters, it works! Like I can see Batman as a Kantian, sure. But for others, it doesn't fit as well.*

The cool thing about Jason's character right now is that he's a utilitarian, but a utilitarian that often isn't guided by his values. He can and will compromise on his philosophy in the name of love and being loved ( @bestangelofall called that a morality leash) and that already sets him as an interesting character in his own right. But in terms of redefining himself as a person after decades of defining himself through his pain (which, at 20-23 years old, he should get to do) I'd love to see an evolution of his morals based on love. Specifically, I'd love from his morals to shift from mathematical utilitarianism to agape, an ancient greek concept of platonic love for everything human, a movement towards the other that can be thought of as close to some conceptualisations of empathy. Mind you, that doesn't mean that he would stop killing! I can believe in a Jason who kills because or against of agape, the pain or relief that could be so good to explore in relation to that, how he would go on to define himself as a person... I feel like Jason has a certain tendency to kinda dehumanize the worst criminals as he kills them (a lesson from Judy, love her sm) which I love, but would also love to see him grow out of - learn to see and love everyone as human and what it means, a re-exploration of his empathy.

Imagine: a scene where he kills a guy because a kid victim begged him to. The focus on the image is on the kid's big wide tearstruck eyes, and then Jason's uncertain face, the kid begging him to kill the bad guy. And then Jason kills him and they're standing so close to eachother, and he's look him in the eyes and seeing the image of the kid's eyes, and then turning back to the kid while wiping the blood on his face and seeing the kid's wide eyes looking in disbelieving awe. And then kneeling and hugging the kid as he cries his heart out. And Jason's inner monologue during all that being something like "I could say that I killed him because I'm a bad guy; I probably am. Or argue the world is better off without scum like him; I could pretend I did it so he wouldn't hurt [x] again, or that I was thinking about all the other children he wouldn't be able to hurt anymore. But the truth is, I didn't. I killed him because [x] asked me to; because I could tell that he needed it. I can live with that."

Idk, that's the direction I would love to see it going, but simply "becoming even more open, louder and unapologetic about prioritising his love over his values, and being angry when it causes him dilemma" is something I'd love with as way. Very "Odysseus knows what he's going to choose the moment the gods tell him to throw the baby off the wall to see Penelope and Telemachus, but fuck if he's angry at the gods for making him make that choice" kind of vibe if you like Epic the musical.

*i'm not saying there aren't any characters in dc that fall out of this deontological/utilitarian false dilemma, it's just a vibe I get from batman writers at times, and as a consequence of specializing in one character I don't feel legitimate in exploring the intricacies of other characters because I feel like I'm lacking information and would be making uneducated guesses (that being said, I would fuck heavily with an exploration of Cass' morals VS Levinas' concept of ethics). If anybody has recommendations of dc characters that are neither utilitarian nor deontological (or are at least an interesting twist to it) I would love them so much please don't hesitate!!!

So yeah, idk if that answers your question, I don't pretend to know the intricate working of dc editorial. But imo there are wonderful possibilities for dc to reinvent Jason and write him into good comics -call me a blue lantern cause baby I got hope.

[kittykatninja321]

Um Hello….

[starry-bi-sky]

danny and officer martinez's relationship in "late at night, when the nightingale sings" in a nutshell:

Martinez: FREAK! GET YOUR FUCKING KID!

Battinson, on the other side of the crime scene: he don't bite

Martinez, with Nightingale firmly attached his arm, visibly biting him: YES HE DO!

*points at them* Danny is the Bugs Bunny to Martinez's Elmer Fudd.

Another Officer: i can't believe you're fighting with an actual twelve year old. Martinez: i swear to god that is not a twelve year old, that is a little hellion that crawled out of batman's shadow one dark and stormy night and decided to dedicate his existence to tormenting me. Officer: Are you really that mad about him putting a sticky note on your back-- Martinez: thats not the point

in danny's defense: the word "freak" is. a mini beserker button for him for.... obvious ghostly reasons, so like, even if its not directed at him, he still very much unappreciates Martinez's insults at Battinson. Danny may or may not be projecting.

he's not going to hurt the guy! not in any serious or permanently disfiguring way at least! But he is going to leave mean sticky notes on the square part of his spine that he can't reach, and stick salt in his 3AM Late Night Crime Scene Coffee, and kick the bottom of his heel while he's walking so he stumbles. And other petty, infuriating things that tally up and boil over, over time.

[puppetmaster13u]

You know what I need? I need a scene, either alone or in a group, of like, a hero or someone talkin to someone. For example Superman and Batman talkin, everything normal right?

And then I need it to switch to the pov of an outsider and they just have the thickest accents in the world. Somehow speaking the same language and understanding each other while the civilian is just ????

[minty364]

DPXDC Prompt #108 Part 2

The thought sounded ridiculous and yet Damian found himself unable to completely scoff at the idea. He himself had seen some strange things in his lifetime and it wouldn’t be fair to completely dismiss the idea outright. 

“I’m unsure what your point is but I guess I suppose they exist.” Damian eventually said.

Danny chuckled at this, “I guess you're not from Amity Park huh?” he joked.

Damian scoffed, “I’ve never even heard of that place but I gather that’s where I am at the moment?” He mentally filed the name to search later. 

“Yeah, born and raised. Anyways, we’re the most haunted city in America. Ghost’s are real, you’ll probably meet one at some point. They’re uh… kind of attracted to me? Kind of like… “ He trailed off for a moment, likely lost in thought trying to come up with an example. Damian was going to call him out for spacing, they were probably running out of time before one of his siblings or Pennyworth came to check on him. Luckily Danny continued, “Hey, what city am I in right now, maybe there’s a comparison I can use?” Danny asked.

“Tt, did you not even think to use GPS to find your location before calling me?” Damian scoffed, his supposed ‘soulmate’ was incompetent, “You're in Gotham.”

“Gotham? Well I guess you could compare them to Batman’s rogues then, however they tend to play a little rough. It’s kind of how ghost’s bond.” Danny’s explanation made it sound like he was the one roughhousing with these ghosts. He wasn’t quite sure where this was going but he let him continue, “so well… this next part’s kind of hard to explain especially without proof but well… I’m what the other ghost’s call a halfa. I’m half ghost half human.”

Damian opened his mouth to retort, the notion that you could be half dead was ridiculous really. But as soon as he opened his mouth a cold blue wisp wafted out of his mouth shocking him. An unfamiliar feeling washes over him and he looked down in terror as he started sinking into the bed.

“Explain your power’s now, I appear to be sinking into your bed.” Damian demanded. The feeling was odd, it was almost as if the bed didn’t exist. 

“Uh, right, Okay… so, it’s kind of emotion based? Take a few deep breaths and you’ll be able to ease yourself back out.” 

Damian did just as Danny instructed and took a few deep breaths. Soon he was able to solidify and sit back up on the bed. Suddenly, a knocking sound was heard through the phone. 

Shit, just like he thought, they took too long and one of his siblings came to check on him. He thought it was sweet that they cared, but he’d never voice this thought out loud to anyone. 

“Danny, I need you to listen very carefully. I need you to open the door and hand the phone over to them. Don’t say anything, understand?” 

“Uh Okay?” Damian could tell Danny was raising an eyebrow at this but he did as Damian told him anyway.

“Uh, Hello?” The voice on the phone said, Damian recognized it as Tim Drake-Waynes. 

“Drake, Please step into the room and listen to my instructions,” Damian waited a moment as he heard the door shut. “Alright, meet my soulmate Danny, apparently his parents study soulmates and they did something and now we’re in each other’s bodies.”

He heard Danny sigh, “It was only supposed to strengthen the soulmate pull. It’s not my fault they don’t know about my weird biology.” 

“Weird Biology?” Drake parroted, “do they not know you're a meta?”

There was a pause before Danny spoke, “No, I’m not a meta… but for the simplicity of things, and this conversation, sure, you can call me a meta.” There was a tiredness to his voice, as if he had this conversation with someone else before.

“The name’s Tim,” he told Danny, then Drake suddenly said in an excited voice, “hey, let’s let him in on the family secret and prank Bruce. Let’s tell everyone else about it and see how long it takes him to figure out it isn’t you… we’ll have to train Danny of course. If he really is your soulmate he’s going to find out eventually and it might be good to prepare him ahead of time” The idea sounded ridiculous to Damian but at the same time, he was recently having some doubts about his Father’s attention on him. Drake had a point, if Danny really was his soulmate, he’d find out eventually. 

__________________________

Danny wasn’t sure what was going on, after he handed the phone off to Tim, they talked about some family secret. Soon Tim hung up the phone and turned to Danny, “Damian say’s Sam and Tucker are there and they’ll call back when he’s back up to speed which means that we need to get up to speed ourselves,” he glared at Danny. Danny, who was still wearing Pajamas stood there as Tim approached him. Once they were a yard apart Tim spoke again, “Listen, the secret I’m about to tell you must not be told to anyone outside of this house, got it?” He fixed a hard glare at Danny.

Danny shrunk back for a moment before a thought occurred to him, “why don’t I tell you my secret as well? Damian is already learning by now and since you're his brother you’ll probably be able to help out.” Secrets for secrets, that way they would both be afforded some leverage in the situation. 

Tim seemed to think for a moment with a hand on his chin, he nodded for a moment before looking up at Danny, “Alright, but tell me yours first.” 

[necrotic-nephilim]

@profandomhopper i was going to reblog the original post this comment was left on but i felt it divorced itself from the original topic so much, you get your own post for giving me delightful permission to ramble about this. buckle in people this is long.

so, DC is a big fandom that expanses a lot of different types of content, and like anything, is subject to crossovers. the obvious ones like Marvel are for the reason of being a similar and equally popular superhero world, so it's easy to transpose the worlds onto each other and overlap the characters. both of these worlds deal with multiverses and endless, endless heroes. it makes sense and there's no real stretch to think Batman and Spider-Man could co-exist. i mean, there have been canon crossover comics. and even some more random crossovers like White Collar have pretty easy to trace origins, being an actor in WC was a popular Dick fancast back in the day so there was some bleeding over that led to a well-loved niche crossover space.

but Danny Phantom and Miraculous Ladybug are where it gets interesting. because at a surface, MLB sort of makes sense. it's a superhero world, you're following a teen girl superhero and sure the mechanics are pretty contained, but the crossover should make sense. but when you compare it to the crossover numbers of other superhero media like say My Hero Academia, Ladybug takes the *crown* with such a bizarre popularity. and of course, DP feels like it makes even less sense. sure, you *could* lump it into at the very least, superhero-adjacent media, but it's not a true hero world like MLB or DC is.

but, the thing to always understand about DC, *especially* the Batfamily (which is where the crossover content propagates the most) is this: a *very* good chunk of fans don't interact with the comics. i would venture to say even most Batfamily fans don't read the comics and actively talk about it. we've all read a very fandom big Batfam fanfic where the author's note mentions the writer has never touched a comic in their life. typically, these fans are either cobbling together their understanding from fandom content, or by frankensteining unrelated DC adaptations to understand each character. you take Bruce from Batman: TAS, you take Dick from the animated Young Justice, you take Jason from Batman: Under The Red Hood animated movie, you take Damian from the DCAMU Batman vs Robin, and you read some fandom metas to fill in the rest and well, you've got some sort of an understanding of these characters. read enough incorrect quotes, some genfic, a couple of character metas, and boom, you understand the Batfamily fandom enough to start creating your own content. and of course now. now you have Wayne Family Adventures so it's even *easier*. a pretty easy to pick up webtoon that's filling in all the gaps for you. but i've been in this fandom long enough to remember before we had WFA and even then, this was still a common, if not the most popular way, to ween yourself into the DC fandom space. you cherry-picked the canon you liked and then plunged into the depths of fanon.

i'm not here to make in depth commentary on if i think this is a good or bad thing. trust me i have that commentary in my head, but that would need it's own post. i'm very split on it and my feelings are complicated. my feelings on WFA are even *more* complicated. because oftentimes, the attitude expressed by these fans who are frankensteining this version of the Batfamily/DC world they have in their head is they don't *want* to read the comics. the comics don't contain the content they're after. and to an extent, i understand that. if you're looking for light-hearted vibes of the Batfamily all getting along and having the occasional hurt/comfort moments but in the end, they hug and make up, you're right. largely, you won't find that in canon. of course there are so many comics to recommend for Batfamily interactions, but you have to get specific. you'll find them interacting in small groups, Tim and Dick bonding here, Duke and Cass bonding there, but largely, the comics don't care to balance the ridiculously large cast they've given themselves. but fandom does. it's easy to toss them all in a blender and ignore the parts you don't like. the default argument to ignoring the comics or writing something OOC is always "well the comics are OOC and inconsistent too" which, while a flawed argument that massively misunderstand how comics work as a medium, isn't an entirely incorrect one. you could serve on a silver platter to these fans, an easy and accessible way to get into comics and they wouldn't be interested. it's not what they're here for. fandom is always character-driven above all else. it's driven by character relationships and dynamics. if someone wants to consume content where Tim idolized and stalked Jason as 'his Robin' and now is trying to help him rehabilitate and they're super complicated but have this long epic forgiveness arc, why *would* they read the comics? because they're sure as shit not going to find that dynamic in the comics. it's laughably OOC and not canon at all, but that doesn't matter. what matters is the sandbox. most Batfamily fans care *far* more about the sandbox canon gives them than the actual canon itself. feel how you feel about that, this really isn't being negative toward that attitude, but it is a common attitude.

so, you have Batfamily fans playing in the sandbox and building their own narrative. common fandom headcanons are so common, you could practically write a guide on how the fanon Batfamily works with how consistent people are about it. or you could just read WFA, which is practically the new manifesto of it. even now, with this sudden spike in people talking about canon accuracy and "actually this happening in the comics", they don't actually care about the comics, just what they can cherry-pick for fodder. (even if they rob it of so much context they're just as OOC as they were before. see specifically: the recent phenomena with Tim Drake going from the woobified weakest member of the Batfam who everyone needs to save constantly and he's the smart boy but he's also the one with a sad tragic neglectful past who gets overlooked being the way Batfamily fandom played with Tim for years. but recently, people seem to be pushing this idea of a ridiculously badass Tim, Tim who *totally* has a kill count because of his actions in RR (2009) if you take them completely out of context, Tim who bested Ra's and is even more badass than Jason and he's the 17 yr old CEO of Wayne Industries being cool and flawless it becoming the new fandom zeitgeist. neither of these versions of Tim are canon, and the second fundamentally misunderstands his arc in RR (2009) but the shift has undeniably happened and it's been fascinating to watch. the same thing happened with people suddenly deciding Jason isn't the "angry violent Robin", he was a sunshine sweet boy who was perfect as Robin. neither of these are true, but the second feels more transgressive and new to fandom from cherry-picked panels.) the point is largely, Batfamily fans would rather build their own canon than play with the actual canon.

and then, you have Danny Phantom. i'm not into DP and have no interest to get into it, but what i know about it via fandom osmosis is this: DP fans sort of also don't give a fuck about canon. once again, the canon of DP is a sandbox, not a rulebook. the concepts and the characters are the draw, not the plot itself. i've seen DP posts explaining characters who are essentially OCs, but have become so dominant in the fandom via fandom osmosis. there are concepts and ideas about how Danny's powers work and potential concepts with his ghost nature that either aren't in canon or only happened once in canon and fans decided to expand on that and doesn't care about it's own in-universe logic. i've seen a lot of DP fans also express they haven't seen the show and they don't have plans to see the show. because the show is just some children's cartoon with some inconsistencies and a simple plot, as you'd expect from CN. the show isn't the point. no one cares about it's plot, they care about it's characters. they care about pushing the concept of half ghost boy to a logical extreme and seeing what you can get out of that. can you make it weird and fucked up. how much can you highlight on his trauma and body horror. what identity crisis can you give him and how can you build his interactions with other characters in his world around that and also make those characters fun and unique on their own. sure, the skeleton of canon is there, but the meat lies all in the fanon.

Miraculous Ladybug also exists in this similar vein. the characters, the concepts, those hold intrigue. and not even mentioning the fact the original concept for this show was supposed to be aimed to an older audience, so you can see the bones of something a bit more mature and nuanced under this typical, villain of the week magical girl transformation show. the show itself is a bit shallow and that's not a *bad* thing, it's just the medium it exists within being aimed towards children. but the concepts of a teen girl who's basically a sort of chosen one, a boy who doesn't know his father is the big bad of the show, and their weird identity porn love... square thing. those dynamics are *so* complicated and such a fun sandbox to play in with character-driven fandom.

so, at the core, you have three fandoms that care more about the culturally accepted fanon than the canon, with a good chunk of people often not even consuming the original canon content. and well, DC is an *easy* world to transpose just about anything onto. a boy who's half ghost and fighting supernatural threats? that makes sense, DC has ghost heroes like Deadman already. a girl who has this magical item that gives her animal themed superpowers? i mean that's practically the same thing as Vixen's Totem so that one makes sense too. they fit in pretty easy, no needing to change the world to accommodate them. and of course, if you're a fan of *one* fandom where you don't care for the canon content and only like the fandom sandbox, chances are, you'll get drawn in pretty easily to another fandom with similar mechanics. if you can teach yourself the DP fandom rules/concepts, you can teach yourself the Batfamily fandom rules/concepts. and well, since there's so much crossover in fandom members, why not write the fanfiction? crossover fics will always exist, but with such a shared member base, you have a really big boom.

it's why the characters you see DP interact with in DC are *always* characters who are far more driven by fanon than canon. Danny and John Constantine is a *massive* concept. for people who don't read Hellblazer comics. my poor partner, @divine-dominion has lamented to me pretty often about finding DP content in the Hellblazer tag that is essentially turning Constantine into an OC. because whatever version of Constantine is being written about isn't one bit comics accurate, and really, isn't trying to be. and the same thing happens with Shazam. you watch Young Justice and understand him well enough, you get drawn in by the character concept that you just run with it. people put their favorite blorbos in the same place because hey, wouldn't ghost boy be pretty cool in a city like *Gotham*. how would Batman even react to him. and then, the shipping. because ages for the Batfamily can be easily hand-waved and moved around based on where you plop Danny into the timeline, you have your pick of the litter with him, and same with Ladybug. of course there are the most popular ships but largely, the world is your oyster.

i don't think this is the worst thing in the world for either fandom. it's not hard to filter out the crossover tags and scroll past content i don't like. and sure, i see the appeal of making your blorbos from two different places meet. i've got my drafts *full* of DC/MHA crossover ideas because well, i like them both and think that would be cool. i think my only gripe with it is when DP or MLB crossover content seeps it's way into the wrong tags. using the above example, if you're writing about Danny and Constantine but there's zero content of the actual Hellblazer comics, i don't think you need the Hellblazer tag, just the Constantine character tag. tbh i wish this extended onto Ao3 and people utilized fandom tags better. if you're writing Batfamily fanfiction that is very clearly and obviously WFA driven in characterization and concepts, i would far prefer those fics be tagged with the WFA fandom tag rather than the Batman (comics) fandom tag. because well, you're not writing about the Batman comics. and there's nothing wrong with that, but it helps if you don't confuse yourself for content striving to interact with canon more. (this especially extends to Young Justice, by the way. if you're writing for the Young Justice tv show please, please stop using the Young Justice (comics) fandom tag. i'm at my wit's end- /lh)

the whole thing is fascinating. i've got zero interest in entering DP or MLB as fandoms because that's not my speed, but witnessing it as an outsider is my favorite pastime. i see a *lot* of posts going around the DC x DP space that are helping explain to people who's who, what's what, and understanding the canon/fanon of both of these properties so others can better enter the space. which is not something you'd need in a fandom driven only by it's canon content, but it is sweet watching others try to help newbies enter the space. it's a very inviting fandom space, i think, whether you lament it's existence or not. they're just sitting in their corner with their blorbos, and i gotta respect that. the posts explaining the Batfamily to DP fans are always fun for me to read, even if i disagree with some of the characterizations in them because it helps shine a light on what the fans of this crossover regard as "important" enough about each fandom to be worth including those sorts of primers. very fascinating stuff.

[autisticrosewilson]

So do you guys actually think that Jason's entire story, relationship to the others, and philosophy amounts to him being a rebellious teen who wants his dad's attention? Like are you 100% serious? I thought you were joking about that but too many of you are saying it with your whole chest.

And what the fuck is this "Bruce antagonizing Jason is fanon!" Shit I've been seeing? You guys are aware that a parent can love their kid and still be a shit parent right? I know you guys don't want to fathom the thought that maybe your blorbo might also occasionally have to face responsibility for consistently endangering children but let's not start being delusional now.

Bruce does love his kids, that doesn't mean that he hasn't hurt them. And I'd also argue that for the most part he feels in the right for it, and he's said multiple times that he believes it's for their own good, so you can't even argue that he's sorry about it. It's okay for you guys to admit that your PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of the character wouldn't do that but don't sit here and pretend that it's not a facet of the source.

[slocumjoe]

Anyway do you ever think about how piper is given weight in the main plot only to be shoved into a ditch to make way for Nick Valentine Synth Detective, who has large presence in the main plot + a personal quest + a whole ass DLC

[k2ulhu]

hulu was doing live coverage of the election until 2:00am, at which point my power randomly went out and when I reopened the hulu app on my tv the election coverage was replaced with

[littlefankingdom]

~ Batman: Knightfall

Showing Jason's broken case (broken by Bane throwing Bruce against it) in the panel where Tim thinks "none of these memories are his" is some good story-telling. Jean-Paul is disconnected from what Batman is really, from the highs to the lows. He cannot understand or shiw compassion toward the worst pain Bruce went throught, losing Jason.

[flashdoesahundredyarddash]

Stargazing Lovers

extra... made it my pfp...

kinda blurry...

it's okay...

[rotten7rat]

I wasn't happy with the scars so I added more on my phone photo editor which is why it looks jank djdjfj its okay