#terfs dont touch this you suck

[nuka-rockit]

Anyone else think its weird that aspec identities (asexual, aromantic, demisexual, etc.) are often considered seperate identities from bi, gay, lesbian, pan, etc.?? like. someone can be attracted (romatically and/or sexually) to a certain type of person exclusively (masc/fem/etc.) and still be on the ace spectrum.

"attraction" can mean so many different things. its wild to me that whether or not you would fuck a person you think is attractive seems so integral

[ellies-rambles]

Trans exclusionary radical feminist? No. Trans enthusiast radical feminist.

[gremlingirlsmell]

trans woman: we should talk about transmisogyny in queer spaces

a dozen he/they's with "terfs fuck off" in bio, who've been waiting for this moment in the limelight for their entire lives: this but trans men. actually this affects trans men more. everyone is affected by transmisogyny. wow why are you dividing the community. we should be kissing and sucking and fucking instead. you're too online, this "discourse" is so online. it's not real. it doesnt exist irl. touch grass. in REAL communities trans women never complain. what, you actually meant irl communities? well I don't believe you, you make this all up. youre erasing us. I'll just willfully misunderstand everything you say in the worst way possible. why do you hate trans men? youre being misandrist. you're such a transradfem. baeddel. feminazi. everyone should know op is a terf and probably also into some problematic stuff. callout post: be aware of op they're a tirf infiltrator seperatist problematic kink haver. reblogs* popular thinkpiece: these transwomen reclaimed a medieval transmisogynistic slur 10 years ago, here is 200 links of terfs and nazis badmouthing them uh i mean sources, i think we should be able to call every transwoman we dont like this slur and also theyre dangerous if they reclaim it again. love trans women before it's too late #transandrophobia

[smallestdogswilldie]

ok you know what makes me sad. as like a former self proclaimed misandrist man hater that would cry and scream about how much it sucks to live in a mans world etc etc etc put estrogen in the water fountains (was never a terf. yall can still die)

for anyone who is still… like that… how can you live in that hatred and misery every day. are women paid less yes are we denied reporductive care by old fart men who are going senile and some by some middle aged women yes. are men statistically like responsible for almost all violent crime and child crimes yes. the more you focus on this shit JUST TO GET MAD ? No ACTION? your fucking soul will get torn apart. genuienly whats the fucking point of just sitting in a circle and hating men. its such a stupid fucking “personality trait” to GENUINELY hate all men sorry babe but you are self harming your soul is shriveling. im sorry please cope. i dated a “””bi””” man because i “hated straight men” for 2 1/2 years…

tldr i hated “masculine” men so much i ended up in a loveless touch deprived relationship with a man who wouldnt touch me because he was actually gay (didnt feel the need to tell me this for 2 1/2 years..) nothing wrong with that but you see where my hatred of MASCULINITY landed me. in a relationship that was about to kill me from stress trying to figure out why i was untouchable because i chose the most feminine man in the midwest to date. hitting myself with sticks in the forest hoping someone would come kill me all because i refused to date a straight man. SWORE never to date a straight man. then i fucking did and hes normal. are they all? not at all. maybe i got lucky but im sorry. girls who are attracted to men but hate them genuinely just are in a cycle of not knowing how to pick them or of unresolved trauma. its on you to fix that. are they going to say sorry? no 😂 so YOU fix it because we all have to.

are the majority of straight cis men uneducated, rude, bigoted and kind of stupid? yes! literally yes. if you feel some type of way or anger towards men because of trauma i ABSOLUTELY understand. but we still gonna need a therapist tho girl. i cant even feel bad if you don’t address your issues and spew hatred at half the population for no other reason than to hear your own voice, and making no effort to heal yourself.

i like to believe, ground breaking statement here, that some straight men are actually great fucking people with manners and decorum and emotional intelligence. do you have to risk it to find them? yes. is it worth it? yeah. 1000000x over. there is beauty in TRUSTING SOMEONE. if they hurt you? ok ouch! do whatever has to be done to keep loving. you cannot shut yourself behind reinforced fucking bars because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 men hurt you. easier said than done yes esp if you have trauma. do you have no desire to HEAL????? and become full of love again???? stop w the bullshit. like actually its tired childish and im going to say it its pessimistic, annoying and posionous. keep that shit to yourself until you resolve that shit. or dont and shut the fuck up!!!

some of us are trying to keep faith which you clearly have lost. and its a sick, stinky attitude to have. keep it to yourself because it makes anyone with a healthy relationship and attraction to men feel like a wet blanket. like sorry that happened to you and you havnt put any effort into healing and that you are seething with hate. its not my problem. survive like the rest of us and for your heart health, literally get help before you have a heart attack or get ulcers.

[queer-here-and-in-fear]

i feel like a lot of problematic left-leaning communities are caused by over correcting

terfs: they acknowledge that masculinity has a special propensity for badness. (correct) then they decide anything that has even TOUCHED or, god forbid, LIKED masculinity is either a danger, or in danger (what.)

the "baby-hating movement": women should not be forced to be maternal (correct). therefor, minors are horrible and i get to harass mothers and tell them their babies suck. (what)

or they under correct.

truscum: trans people deserve rights (correct.) but. uhm. only these trans people that the cis like, yea. and it has rules. you have to be cis doctor approved trans (what.)

LGB without the T: gays deserve rights (correct) but not the trans!! dw guys you dont have to like the trans :D dont. dont even look at them. please. (what.)

[booksandpaperss]

some ramble-y thoughts on men's social isolation and women's safety bc this has been on my mind for a bit

I do think it's really sad how men end up feeling so isolated bc of various social expectations as well as people being cruel, but as a fem presenting person I have to say that you can't just expect women and anyone who is fem presenting to just "start being nicer". ive seen a few posts on Tumblr essentially stating that but I have to reiterate it is about safety. I literally cannot afford to stop looking at men with caution and assumed violence until I get to know them really well bc if I stop that could genuinely cost me me life. its true that most men I see probably are not predators and im sure it hurts to be perceived that way, but I have no way of being able to tell who is and isn't going to harm me. I have to assume the worst because it is the only way I can stay safe.

it sucks, it really does, for all parties involved. I have so much sympathy for the men who are genuinely kind and would never hurt me that feel isolated, it isn't fair, and I myself certainly don't enjoy the *necessary* fear that the random guy im passing on the street could see me and decide to hurt me, but this is the reality of the world. there is no easy solution, but what certainly isn't a solution is expecting women to start being kinder to men they dont know because once again: that could genuinely cost someone their life.

The best solution right now I think is to continue to try to deconstruct misogyny and gender roles, and that takes time, patience, and understanding.

I have also seen the notion on here that men feeling isolated socially is misandry, but the reality is that misandry is simply not real on a systemic scale. men feeling isolated is a direct result of the patriarchy and a side affect of misogyny. a lot of things on this website that are perceived as misandry are either not real problems or they are but they're just the impacts of misogyny and the gender roles that come with it.

But it is very surreal to be walking alone at night, clutching my pepper spray and glaring whenever a man I don't know is near me, making sure to stay next to the street and make it obvious I know exactly where I'm going and still feeling the fear that it might not be enough and something horrible could happen to me anyway, only come back to Tumblr and see people saying misandry is just as prevalent as misogyny and women need to start considering how it feels for men to be looked at like they're predators. Touch grass seems like an applicable statement here.

oh and obligatory piss on the poor tumblr disclaimer: I know I am using binary terms so before any of you get on your high horse about it, I myself am non binary. I am not actually a woman, but I certainly look like one and therefore deal with misogyny. I fully understand that trans men and genderqueers of all kinds as well as even feminine cis men also fear for their life on the street so dont even think abt getting on my ass about that. oh and if any of you try to call this a terf post consider yourself blocked with a recommendation to get a refresh on what terf actually means instead of just throwing around the term when you see any post trying to talk about misogyny :D

final disclaimer bc I wanna cover all my bases due to Tumblr reading comprehension: im aware topics like this are very nuanced with lots of layers, please dont act like im obligated to cover all that in a random Tumblr post of all things, I cannot possibly cover everything nor am I obligated to. I simply wanted to remind ppl that actual lives are at risk and fem presenting people constantly and regularly fear for their life bc I feel like that gets left out a lot in conversations like this on here. <3

[gwaaaaar]

you ever think abt how hateful people have become. How willing they are to mock things that arent up to their standards and are less merciful. As soon as someones bad they rip into pretty harmless things like how they look or quality of their art. Its terrifying to live in such aggressive conditions. Like is this how theyd treat their friends if a slight disagreement happened? Selfies and pictures they used to go "omg so cute" at turns into "thats lame and they suck."

Bigots fucking suck and i dont want them to touch my post. But also like, it should not be normal to rip into people for those harmless things because they are bad people. It fosters an enviorment where you have to watch what you say lest you get torn apart for the small things that make you, you. Theres less forgiveness, theres less communication. Like for example i hate terfs ofc i do. But to insult one for their looks or something small? What about people that share those traits and have nothing to do with it?

Theres enough to insult with a shitty person bc of their personality and harmful beliefs, but it feels so low to insult harmless things doesnt it? Idk idk. It would be better to find the good in things or ignore what you dont like. Drown out the hatred and all.

This isnt to say bigots should be tolerated and you should be nice. Punch nazis lol. But definitely dont live off of hatred and feed that sort of environment because it is taxing in the long run. Freedom of speech is valid, but if you make your entire existence negativity or the first things you notice are bad, it just feels like shit in the end.

Idk, im tired and these are just my thoughts.

[theladysunami]

@onemillionfurries

#this #also sorry to bring my usual modern web ranting into this but a lot of this culture is brought about by social media #back in the days of forums n personal websites. if you saw something you didnt like you could simply back out and not look there again #but in the modern internet landscape 'dont like dont look' is practically dead #every day you get shit you dont like thrown across your feed either by someone youre following or the algorithm #not to mention that everyone from every corner of the net is now folded into the same 5 websites #meaning that people who would have inhabited completely different forums/webspaces in the past are now using the same sites #and that is a recipe for disaster #social media is also just absolutely awful when it comes to moderation. #with forums someone could get banned for just being a dick. wheras social media has very broad rules that allows a lot to slip through #i remember an ex-tumblr mod recounting about how one time they banned a bunch of TERFs spamming a trans tag with transphobia #but was told to reverse those bans because they werent technically breaking any rules since they werent targeting a specific person #(this is paraphrased and might not be 100% accurate but is essentially what happened) #ANYWAYS long fucking rant short. social media sucks and allows for the toxic fandom culture we have today #the Kurzgesagt video 'The Internet is Worse Than Ever - Now What?' kinda goes over this and touches on a bunch i didnt cover in this ramble #its more aimed towards politics but just replace 'left and right' with whatever two opposing factions you have online #Council of Geeks also did a video called 'Have Fandoms always Been This Toxic?' that I also recommend checking out #again gets to a lot of what I havent talked about in this #so in conclusion #yes people shouldnt be harrassing others for playing with their toys differently #but also the reason fandom has gotten so bad in the past decade is because of systemic issues and not just. #everyone one day suddenly deciding to be mean to eachother for no reason other than they felt like it #sorry for flooding ur tags op my followers are used to this shit by now #lab notes #old man yells at the cloud

"Wah, why aren't fandoms fun anymore?"

Because you keep policing people's headcanons, making fun of them and calling them horrible things, and on top of that, you're somehow claiming to be a safe space for people to express their creativity, yet turning around and harassing them anyways because you've made a billion exceptions to the "don't police people" rule and you think, like everyone else who's made their own exceptions, that your exceptions justify harassment.

So you're making fandom into a field of rat traps where nobody even dares interact with anyone, or shares art anymore, because you still might just attack them for it because they did something as simple as writing a canonically soft character as... a softie.

Let people do their "cringe" y/a romances, let people do their "gross" ships, let people write those characters as jerks or softies. Let them, and mean it when you say you'll let them, instead of soapboxing about it in a patronizing post but not really meaning what you're soapboxing about.

[expfcultragreen]

Anyone want to play good skin/bad skin with me?

Yeah i didnt think so, that game fucking sucks and i was over this whole scene of making you figure it out yourself years ago, like from the jump. Im usually very supportive of doing research but all im going to find out about these guys is a) theyre nazis or b) they adopt the posture of nazis for reasons that are only relevant within the hardcore scene, with a total sense of callousness or adversariality regarding everyone who despises the aestheticization of fascist reactionaryism in and of itself. Like, the hautiness of it, if theyre pulling option b. The self-absorbed, myopically racist and phobic hautiness of it.

I have spent nearly 10 years carefully studying my plausibly crypto hardcoreboy friend, who i met because he lived in a vegan feminist house (mostly terfs it turned out, tho) i went to a party at

And its inconclusive what the fuck he meant in his 20s by all the casual racism and the swastika on his album cover, because that stuff actually all had plausible denials loaded--ALL of it, almost suspiciously so like its a game called youre just paranoid--and because he is fanatically liberal in his personal life (altho of course, he hates the liberal party and neoliberalism in general...which tells me he's either fash or hardleft, its a horseshoe thing with hating justin trudeau and the global capitalism agenda),,,, as far as he will share with me privately or the internet publicly. Ive been to a number of parties where he invited virtually all the guests and he conspicuously tried for diveristy, although his inner circle was all lame white people. (So is mine at the moment but thats because im too ashamed of my psychosis to have kept in touch with any of my other friends; its just really hard for people being around a white person who wont shut up about nazis when thats all you hear from everyone who wont hang out with white people, it gets awkward because you cant really say much because it could be a trap like theyre an undercover cop or something.) Sometimes his grapevine delivers him a highkey crypto conspiracy theory and then he wants to get takes on it because it "somehow" seems implausible or dubiously verified. When his neighbors annoy him he plays his tyler the creator vinyl real loud. He bought tickets for pet shop boys and new order when they played toronto. I am constantly scanning every interaction for tells, to this day; its like the green flag/red flag bateman meme but the tabulations are reversed.

I only have room in my life for ONE hardcore bro puzzlebox, sorry to all the oi bands and skinheads bobbling around like jackasses but i will never see you live and you will never get my money

Just one, sure, but how'd you pick?

Fluke. I didnt know who he was until after i had already asked him out (we got along at the party we met at so i asked him out, i never met someone else who knew that kinks song waterloo sunset, before), and then i had a stake in figuring out how much of a nazi he was because he knew i was nonbinary/queer and hooked up with me anyway instead of trying to kill me or debate me. Then after i was like "yknow what fuck it, i hate this game, youre a nazi" he flew across canada several times to check on me because he could tell i was going off the rails and isolating myself from people. He is the ONLY friend i have left who showed concern, most of them just got mad and stopped talking to me when i psychotically accused them of being abusers. My ex gf checked on me a lot during those years but she's not really my friend anymore (cant stand me now, too mundane)

I refuse to tell him my current address because i dont want him to know where i live because i am still paranoid that he has proud boy friends in bc who he can just call up and convince to burn my house down etc if i become too much of a liability or like if he finally does too many drugs and snaps and decides im causing progressivism as a whole by myself using magic

And the hardcore bros KNOW this is what people who truly hate nazis go through with them, and they dont give a fuck because they think theyre on a higher plane of enlightenment by virtue of a hyperfixation on a niche subculture's 40 year history of repeated infiltrations by nazis

[nouveaukaine]

Another downside to the myth that pansexuality is the only identity inclusive of trans/nb people (besides the inherent transphobia in it) is that it legitimizes transphobia especially in the bisexual community. Like I guarantee you there’s cis bi people who feel uncomfortable about theoretically dating a trans person and classifying trans men and women as some separate gender than cis men and women means allowing that sort of bias to go unchecked and even be validated as an aspect of bisexuality.

[yourlocallesbiandumbass]

full offense but i love and respect you and there’s nothing you can do to change that. getting through the december holidays can be rough, i know, and going into a new year can be intimidating and terrifying no matter where you’re at in life, but i love, respect, and support you and am so very proud of you. you’re doing good things, it’s okay and it will be okay

[jejciu]

i hate terfs and i hate the fact that i cant even report them for hate speech on mobile

[miniquiny999]

"tee hee quadball came out as trans her name isnt quidditch anymore quidditch is her DEADNAME quidditch is trans now ✌✌✌✌😛"

OK. BUT IT IS STILL THE GAME QUIDDITCH FROM HARRY POTTER. YKNOW?

a rose by any other name would smell just as transphobic. yknow?

like its really not that revolutionary that they renamed their shitass sport to be more marketable (because thats half the reason they did it anyway), they could just as easily stop funding and playing the game quidditch from harry potter. spending on fucking college sports is already a bloated vampyric blight. why are we deluding ourselves. if youre looking with despair at your 5-6 figure tuition costs remember that this is one of the things that money goes to!

this is, in the literal sense, equivalent to fucking making your trans positivity harry potter fanart and trans headcanons and trans fanfiction, except no wait, its even worse, because its not motivated out of misguided spite or some fading trickle of love for the thing you grew up with, it is motivated by MONEY!

fuck off quadball sucks go to hell. terfs dont fucking touch me or talk to me or i will annihilate you, remember that if you still support jkr youre a fucking antisemite and a racist too.

[radradmarivy]

hey i’m a tgirl or tim or whatever you call me and i’m just sending good vibes ur way

being a radfem or terf must be rlly isolating and you prob get a lot of abuse for it

peace and love is real bro and it sucks because ur probably a chill person irl but like this blog it’s just rlly harmful dude like terf blogs in general make me scared to leave the house

idk just leaving my thoughts here peace

I dont know why you wouldnt leave your house. We radfems are not going our way to Hunt trans people down, we are not killing you or telling the world you dont deserve to be treated with the same respect as everybody deserves.

We are fighting for the safety of women and girls, for our sports and safe spaces to be kept. To not have male people in our rape shelters nor having men touching themselves in our bathrooms. We know that not all transfemenine men are like that, we know. Just like we know not all men.

But we need to be safe. A whole amount of people out there are abusing and threatening lesbians to date tims and gay boys to date transmasculine girls. I mean, there are whole videos and pictures only in twitter with tims masturbating in girl's bathrooms and near child's Parks. Thats what we are fighting against. THAT.

You can do whatever you want with your body, you can date whoever you like that migth have you, you can dress and live how you want.

But denying biological reality is not only a fallacy, is dangerous. Its dangerous for patients and women in general. Allowing men in Jails, rape shelters and homeless shelters for women is dangerous. We have no way to know which one is good until its too late.

And allowing teens and children to use dangerous, non tested drugs with serious secondary effects that last for a life time... Allowing pharmaceutics to gain money from the struggle of kids and teens.... we cannot allow that.

We will keep fighting.

[magical-agatha]

god my fuckin temperament is too weak to handle thinking about inguinal hernias anymore today. this: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/trans?page=guidelines-testicular-pain is still the only link i can find that has any confirmation of it as a danger to trans women who tuck. but it doesn't go into detail about how the actual hernia is occurring and what the relationship is with tucking. but at least it confirms a correlation so i know that it is in fact a danger and not just wild speculation or something based solely on one person’s experience, which may or may not reflect the rest of the community. from what i can guess its probably like? pushing the testicles into the inguinal cavity is distending it and weakening the muscles, which is allowing the intestines to slip through into the cavity. i wonder if theres like, something in this to do with like, physical exertion, bc it could also be that tucking is creating a weakness that is getting exacerbated by a moment of physical exertion? or maybe by moving in a way that like, affects the muscles in there? idk. there really isnt a lot of info about this and im not a doctor so the best i can do is speculation. but i dont think the idea that tucking is distending the inguinal cavity which is weakening the associated abdominal muscles is too extreme of a jump. this is one of those times where i really really wish there was more medical information and research about trans bodies, bc most of what there is is sporadic and incomplete and the rest is sourceless uhh, whats the word, when its just based off a persons experience being recounted without any like, reliable research or info. starts with A. im very tired lol. point is i wish there was more info out there cuz there really isnt a lot and im scared ppl are going to get hurt bc of that. this is also like, opening my eyes a lot about how uncertain the information i have in general about like, my body and the bodies of other trans women. bc im finding inconsistent info about things i thought were facts, like for example tucking has always been held up to be perfectly safe, but ive never been able to do it without it hurting, and apparently like?? the whole ‘hrt will turn you infertile’ thing might be inconsistent too? apparently it happens to some but not others. and the thing about like, ‘you WILL lose the function of your dick’ (with the implied ‘but thats a good thing’ that has always pissed me off) and my dick still works, it works differently and i cum and orgasm differently than i did before hrt but it still very much works, it just seems to follow different rules? and i still cum and i can still get hard, both of those things were supposed to stop happening but they didnt. it just like.. went through a process of being reprogrammed so it behaves differently now. cuz there was a period where i couldnt orgasm and i couldnt cum, but then i could again, and now my orgasms are totally different than they were when i was pre hrt. instead of it being like, sudden and intense and overwhelming, it builds up slowly to a peak, then gradually declines from there and leaves you feeling warm throughout and very very soft. and my hen leaks precum constantly when im aroused, and then when i cum it shoots a little bit out then like, leaks goo for the next half hour, not a little bit either. its a mess.

there was something else i wanted to say here but i forgot it. all in all im just. mad that the only ppl who care about the health of trans ppl are some doctors and trans ppl themselves. and that information about our bodies is inconsistent even between professionals. i cant be sure that my doctor actually knows how my body works and whats best for me. it makes it so much harder to trust doctors and feel safe when i see them. what a nightmare. i want to help ppl. i want to find and compile info about our bodies to keep us all safe but i can barely look after myself and i cant commit to doing that. i have to focus on myself. so all i can rly do is like, give advice and try to warn ppl of potential dangers and do what research i can. which is what we’re all doing. the danger is when personal biases conflict with caring for the safety of other ppl, which is the root of all the problems with trans medical stuff i think. whether its doctors enforcing their biases on trans ppl thru medical advice/medicine, or trans ppl themselves giving advice that is warped by their personal beliefs. it leads to misinformation and inconsistency and thats dangerous. that means people getting hurt. so i have to be careful when i give advice to be aware of my own personal biases. such as like, i hate tucking, but i cant tell ppl to just not tuck bc its not my body, i dont know if theres a way to tuck safely or not, so instead i have to tell ppl to be careful and to be aware of potential risks, and to listen to their body bc pain and discomfort are important indicators of harm being done. but im scared that will be lost in the tide of ‘tuck or you arent a real trans woman, you need tucking to pass, it cant hurt you’ that has been spread among us for a really long time.

i feel like this is like, tied to another big problem which is the like, necessity and obsession with passing. which are two very different things. necessity is like, passing to be safe, which i feel like has room to accept that tucking might not be totally safe and comes with certain risks, because it isnt about affirming self worth or identity, only about staying safe. then obsession, which might not be the best word but it will do for now, by that i mean ppl who feel they Have to pass at all costs, bc they think that if they dont they arent a real woman or something like that. they tie passing to self worth and identity, if they dont pass they are worthless or incomplete or like, inferior to cis women, and they will do anything to pass, with little to no regard for personal safety. they will do risky things like skipping meals or tucking unsafely bc they want to pass at any cost. but they spread their perspective on this through advice to other trans women, telling them they need to tuck and they need to wear makeup and they need to do voice training and get implants and srs and all manner of things or they are a trender. a faker. they put insecurities into other trans women and bully each other to propagate their personal biases and force other trans women to conform. most trans women pre hrt are extremely vulnerable and lost, which is when these obsessive trans women give them bad advice and twist them to their world view. that happened to me. i got sucked into that when i was trying to figure out my identity and needed validation. luckily i got out of that and i know better now. its really fucked. ive talked about like, versions of this idea before. that there are two kinds of trans ppl, those who love being trans and those who hate is and want to be cis. and i think as im getting a bit older and learning more and getting further thru my transition im starting to put together a bigger picture of the interplay between all of this stuff. like, the interactions between cis society and its expectations of trans ppl, how trans ppl deal with those expectations and how they deal with living and moving in a cis society thats hostile to trans ppl. this is all one big mess. and thats not even touching on the interactions between terfs, transmeds, and the various levels of trans communities both online and irl. its an absolute nightmare. and then as well there’s like, further interactions with like, nb and gender diverse ppl, gay vs straight trans ppl, intersex ppl, exclusionists, and the mess that the current lgbt+ community online is. i could write a book about this. im living in a nightmare. a massive roiling chaotic community thats fighting itself and the world around it and trying to survive and destroy the parts of itself that it thinks arent ‘valid’. which sounds like a metaphor for my experiences as a trans woman. god and theres more i keep forgetting. im so scatterbrained tonight. i havent had enough sleep to be trying to talk about something so complex as this. and im destroying my hands by typing this much. time to stop. i can sort all this out later. what a mess.