#talking shit about wukong!!
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I'm sleep deprived so I'm confident enough to ask things. Would you perhaps be willing to draw the Soysauce Duo being silly or wholesome 👉👈 (in all seriousness,your art style is just delicious. Definitely would consume)
i am SO sorry for being late. AND for the bad quality picture, i haven't been active here so much, twt yes, but sometimes i forget i actually have tumblr HAHA, anyways, here's the soysauce duo with my hcs!! I'm still figuring out how to draw macaque aaaaaaaa 🥲
Idk, i like mk with messy, kinda wavy hair. He has filipino vibes ~
Dialogue cuz it's night rn,
Mk: no way,
Mac: oh but yes he did!
(they're probably talking about swk LMAO)
#lmk mk#lego monkie kid fanart#monkie kid#lmk fanart#lego monkie kid#mk lmk#macaque fanart#Monkie kid macaque#lmk liu er mihou#lmk macaque#six eared macaque#macaque#lego macaque#liu er mihou#monkie kid mk#lego mk#lego monkie kid mk#soysauce duo#Lmk#<3#Cuties#Silliessss!!!#I forgor how Mac's outfit looks like mb#I did this with my memory so sorry for the bad quality macaque outfit HHHHH#talking shit about wukong!!
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Communication
#i don’t use whisper but I do remember seeing the wildest shit to ever grace my eyes from there#marriage counsellor MK real!! this boy is so nosy hes all of us rn. what the FUCK happened between u two#I also love the idea of MK going to see more of macaques shadow plays. like I hope they bring that back PLEASEE#macaque starts doing shadow plays about jttw because MK doesn’t read the book. me too MK (hasnt gotten past the first chapter)#maybe. maybe he slightly changes the hero and the warrior story when he starts talking to wukong again-#my art#myart#doodles#Lego Monkie kid#lmk#lmk fanart#Monkie kid#lmk mk#lmk xiaotian#lmk six eared macaque#lmk macaque#lmk liu er mihou#six eared macaque#comic#soysauce duo#i think that’s their tag
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I love that in the JTTW source material, Sun Wukong is never shown any romantic interest towards anyone and does occassionally make fun of Zhu Bajie and his escapades, but it's still very clear he loves the people aroud him. We love an aroace monkey king.
But I also really really really love that Black Myth Wukong adds their own twist and gave both Sun Wukong AND the Destined One (or rather his past reincarnation) love stories?? Sun Wukong has the tragedy going on with the White Bone Demon, he struck her three times to kill her (granted she did try to eat his master LOL), but he was never able to let her go and it is one of the many reasons why he wanted to leave buddahood behind and reject the celestial court.
With the Destined One, it is heavily implied in the game that the 4th spider sister was married to the previous Destined One (can I also add, excellent taste monkey, 10/10 I would marry her too), but obviously the prev Destined One carried on with his quest and well, probably never returned lol.
Anyway, I think it's a nice touch that each Destined One isn't just another reincarnation on a quest trying to become the new Sun Wukong, and that they can fall in love and get married too. The game doesn't tell us much about the Destined One's personality, with him being a silent protagonist so it's nice to see details like this.
#the ham talks#and ofc in terms of self-shipping/OC romance#it gives wiggle room for interesting deep conversations#or drama I guess#imagine the travel companion and the 4th spider sister bonding over their love for the Destined One LOL#but also 4th spider sister be like "yeah... shit hruts n stuff but it's so worth it. and I'm happy to be able to see his face again.#“but this is not my monkey and I wish you two all the best”#idk man#idk#AND THEN LATER ON I GUESS YALL CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHITE BONE DEMON#angst#lots of angst#black myth wukong#sun wukong#the destined one#black myth rambling
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" Why do you depict Sun Wukong in intimate situations when he's ace in the original book?"
For the same reason that, as an Ace dude myself (and married): Because he felt like it and it feels nice, I see him indulging on physical intimacy on rare occasions the same way he would a nice drink.
(Also not a fan of associating se/xual desire with morality and it being weaponized as degrading, so he's absolutely Ace in my book, but just sometimes want to relax and unwind the same way a drink/a party/ a nice evening with friends, would be without it being a reflection of him "fighting bad urges" because there's nothing bad about that.)
and what he enjoys most is the teasing/playful fighting/getting a rise out of the person's he is with.
#Sun Wukong#JTTW#and me enjoying his relationship with erlang having a se/xual aspect to it is more about them not thinking they are above it all and they c#unwind#get drunk together#talk shit#tell jokes#just be two guys who are surprisingly similar at the end of the day
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Apologies
#shadowpeach#six eared macaque#sun wukong#lmk#lego monkie kid#monkey king#liu'er mihou#I just think it'd be neat if they apologized to each other and then cried and hugged about it#(cuz on god they both have some shit they should get off their chests and own up to)#like holy blue hells they're both just like “I think i shall spend my immortal life ruminating on my greatest regret and letting it fester”#everytime i watch the scene where Macaque is like:#“its good to talk about feelings! obv i don't do it”#i turn into the hands on hips guy meme#DUDE GO TO THERAPY#wukong too lets be real#been reading jttw the west (haven't actually gotten to where SEM shows up in the book yet tho)#and i think that if therapy existed back then tripitaka and sha wujing would've been gently but firmly#herding wukong into the local therapist's waiting room in as many towns they pass as possible#he'd probly grab the door frame and have to be literally pried off#these hypothetical ancient-chinese therapists all have claw marks on the hallways and doors going into their offices#hey how about an au where shadowpeach get therapists who end up getting all the monkey drama news first#and end up on the business-rivals-to-drinking-buddies pipeline#stopped while drawing this like “hey why'd i make mac be touching wukong's face in both sketches?”#and then i remembered that between the two mac's the one who wants to be something to the other#to the point of desperation#its like if they're both cats who got coned swk is the one who sits there miserably accepting his fate#while mac is that one video of the tuxedo cat shrieking and trying to paw it off#i'd read the hell out of a fic where they end up swapping attitudes about their dynamic#in canon wukong's the one who seems like he would like to never see mac again (at times) even tho he really regrets it and it hurts#like mac just gives up on trying to convince himself he can make swk see him as a significant part of his life again
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The 1x00 AHiB -> 4x06 glowup
#this just reminded me I need to make a ''being there for your friends when they need you'' post#because that shit is EVERYWHERE#LIKE THAT'S ALL THEY FUCKING TALK ABOUT#''It's okay sandy! You're always there for us when we need you. The least we can do is be there for you when you need us.'' (4x06)#''No! Mei is my best friend. I'd never abandon her when she needs me—we're heroes! It's what we do!'' (3x10)#''You don't know! We'd risk it for sure! I won't abandon them when they need us'' (4x02)#''As long as I'm doing something to help out a friend- I don't mind what it is! I just want to be there for 'em when they need me.'' (2x08)#''Wukong only values people by how useful they are to him'' (3x08)#''No no honestly—this is exactly what I need right now. I'm trapped under a mountain- but the 6-earred macaque brought me a peach!''#(4x11)#Literally just the shit off of the top of my head#and then. And then that in contrast with#''I get it. I'd do anything for my friends! But at the cost of the world?'' LIKE GOD DAMMIT LEGOS#You took the basic bitch ''Help you friends'' theme and went ''But what if helping your friend hurt others'' like come on man#Hello#Where am I#I'm dying. I'm dying#Okay imma go do hw......I guess....whatever....#lmk#lego monkie kid#lmk parallels#lmk Sandy#lmk Mei#lmk Pigsy#lmk Tang#OH GOD ALSO. ''I will become someone they can depend on...the way I can always depend on them!'' (3x08)#AND#''But you're always there when I need you- so it's time for me to return the favor!'' (2x04)#Which also just ties into ''we'll figure this out together'' as a whole right#what. ever.
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Spider queen: it's a good thing you and wukong aren't a thing anymore, he's such a bad kisser, the worst I've ever experienced. you really escaped
Macaque in his "im so over wukong, dont care about him at all": oh you kissed wukong :) yes :) he really is a bad kisser :)
the only other ex of Wukong 🫢🍿 Macky trying his best not to kill her during s2 bc he is so over Wukong hahahaaaaaa what does he care!
#Spider Queen: *thinking she’s found a comrade in talking shit about Wukong and his love life*#Mac-‘i am so not over my ex even tho he might have killed me’-adoodle: woooooow…. yeah what did we even SEE in him ahahahahaaaaaaaa#shadowpeach#lmk#asks#rip Spider Queen she just wanted to talk shit about ex with someone who would understand
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How is Black Myth Wukong actually making me feel bad for Jinchi Zhanglao, he's like the worst of all the villains.
#like a lot of them are demons but he's not he's just a greedy spiritual leader who's willing to kill people for swag#and they made me feel SO bad for him#i'm talking about the big headed gold monk who sets shit on fire btw#idk what he's called in english i refuse to play the game in english#tears falling like peridots#black myth wukong#sun wukong#xi you ji#xyj#jttw#journey to the west
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Wangxian is about the homoerotic tension between Sun Wukong and Tripitaka.
#just watched the monkey king 2#I stg Wei Wuxian definitely has that monkey king influence but nobody’s talking about it#and Tripitaka the monk in blue constantly righteously doubting Wukong#Journey to the West’s IMPACT#i've connected the dots#you didn’t connect shit#monkey king 2#wangxian#mo dao zu shi#mdzs#Wei Wuxian#Lan Zhan#the untamed#journey to the west#my thoughts
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(rereads what i have so far for chapter 9) wukogn and macaque are so fucking gay, they're basically remarried already...........like, what are we doin'
#constellations fic#(is delusional) they're already together??#but honestly i'm not delusional. i'm not. because since chapter...whichever one it was when macaque opened up about his death#there has been a pivot in their relationship...and i love the like#change of them realizing that talking is important and them committing to talking to one another#like usually macaque would fuck off or wukong would start an argument#but no. they're patient with each other. they give each other time#keep that in mind. it sure would be fucking awful if there was some kind of...regression of some sort#some...mistakes being made...or some shit
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Little preview of a longer thing.
#xiyouji#journey to the west#jttw#sun wukong#monkey king#thinking again about how of all the ways to portray the Monkey King out there#there does seem to be a kind of reluctance to portray him as a very deliberate murderer#and I'm not talking about the evil demon swk portrayals#I mean more like in xiyouji itself#where he doesn't go out of his way to start shit#but where escalating is always on the table for him once violence is on the table#you often get the sense that he actually gives his opponents a chance to act otherwise#but once they attack well then that's it#and YEAH of course that doesn't excuse a lot of his violence#but it does give you a sense that his violence is much more thought out and deliberate than the uwu chaos monkey presentation would suggest#does make him scarier than other presentations#but it's one I personally find more interesting
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Jaune Arc- The Most Horrendous Knight Ever. (Twin Revisions)
Silence My Minions!! Now as you know yesterday night I did a why Jaune is a horrible knight post and the what not. But today I deleted it cause some stans really just wanna say that he is "isnt a knight." but knight inspired. Aight. Aight! I might as well hop onto the rewriting post and use everything to my knowledge. Cause holy hell almighty this was giving me a headache.
and having me in my bed like:
"I know this motherfucker did not just cherry-pick my whole post"
So yes, I deleted and a few of my replies and decided to get some help for this one. By the way huge thank you @burgers-and-diatribe for giving me a helping hand on this one. Y'all go check'em out and giv'em a high five. Cause they were a huge help for this revision.
So without further ado. Lets get into it.
Now before hand we're just going to get into it a huge part of RWBY's characters whether it be extra, protagonist, or antagonistic characters are inspired by either Fairytale, Historical, or Mythological figures. This can also include the Romanticization of Fairytales as well.
Now Jaune Arc is based off the historically legendary female knight of the Hundred Years War. Joan of Arc. Who was well known for having been granted a vision by the Archangel, Michael to save France from British Domination. This would later on culminate into her arrival at Orleans and participating in major battles and even after her death it would pave the way for the French to claim victory in the Hundred Years War several decades later.
Jaune would immediately trip over and fall flat on his face cause he can't even hold a candle up to Joan of Arc. Because it would better fit the historical allusion if he:
His Semblance was based around seeing into the future Which despite Transitioning Into A Woman In Later Volumes or Being Born as A Woman and being called Jeanne. Having erratic visions of Fire, being related to Cinder and a possible future of her death or a battle that could lead to her death.
Possibly her death inspiring others or paving the way for a major victory.
At the same time, they dont allude to their historical counterparts unlike how Jaune does so. Instead they go for the Paladin route due to it being such a huge Dungeons and Dragons concept as he achieves Aura Amplification which is none other than the Lay On Hands ability minus the healing factor of its ability.
I know Jaune is a Fantasy Knight but at the same time in Volume Nine he is called the RUSTED KNIGHT. in which at that point he either is or inspired by the romanticized concepts of the Code of Chivalry.
Before I hop into this lets just get this out of the way
Real Life Knights =/= Fantasy Knights
This is because Real Life Knights are by far not the romanticized concepts that we read or watch in media. As Real Knights were just overall horrendous, cruel, and even lazy. This is because most knights that we know in real life were in fact noblemen born into knighthood beginning their training no less than the age of fifteen. Then made into a squire and then into a knight.
Now knights in our world pillaged, murder, or even did many more horrible things in order for their status to be seen during the Middle Ages. As there have been many many accounts of knights doing horrendous atrocities as well.
As one account during the Age of Chivalry (The 11th to the 12th Century) as a historian recounts Sir John Arundel and his band of knights taking refuge in a convent violating the Nuns and stealing from them and throwing them overboard once they were all but used up. Not to mention real knights would usually face off against other knights. Sometimes in duels to resolve petty conflicts, entertainment or in festivals as well.
As the book Chivalry in Medieval England by Nigel Saul states; "Knights only fought for three things. Land, Gold, and War Booty."
Now as for Fantasy Knights this is not applicable to their Real Life counterparts as they are no means perfect as well. But its once again those romanticized concepts of what we see knights as. Noble, Kind, Understanding and Powerful altogether.
Now do they follow the concepts of Code of Chivalry? Ehhhh. Maybe depending on the character(s) in media.
As some Fantasy Knights are either, Sellswords, Free Knights/Paladins, Servants to a Lord, King or Queen, or Baron. Hell or even just bandits.
Now there are only two accounts of the Code of Chivalry
Song of Roland’s Code of Chivalry:
Fear God and His Church Serve the liege lord in valor and faith Protect the weak and defenseless Live by honor and for glory Respect the honor of women
King Arthurs version of the Code of Chivalry:
Honor Honesty Loyalty Valor
Now in my last post I did say Jaune should have been following those concepts of chivalry and how he falls flat in some areas of it. Until I was corrected saying that I shouldnt be applying those especially with how "vague" it is for something that is from a romanticized fairytale. It was then when I realized that if Jaune were to be a true knight he would have swear fealty for a Lord or King to follow those Codes of Chivalric Faith.
Now can I not apply those things to Jaune. No.
But Can I make him to the point where he was inspired by the Codes of Chivalry. Since Rooster Teeth made Jaune as a fictional character following a real life concept (Aka the Romanticized Concepts of the Codes of Chivalry), such as Knighthood.
Also the fact that monarchs did exist in Ancient Remnant in Volume 6 which further cements the fact the knights existed and with Ozma/Ozpin being a knight during that time.
Its almost as if saying Robyn Hill isnt based off of the Romanticization of Robin Hood because this, this, and that. Or because it does not in exist in Remnant. Once again RWBY's characters are based off of Fairytales, Historical, or Mythological figures we know of IRL. and yes even Romanticized Fairytales can count as well.
Yes I know some people will come at me and call me a Jaune Hater just because me and many many others rag on him. But at the same time... I rooted for him to become better. And due to idiotic writing decisions from Miles Luna and making him into a Ron Stoppable, shoe horning him into important scenes and the like. It only made me hate him more. The
I Like Him For the Character He Could Have Become.
Instead he is a failure to live up to his historical allusion and even fails at being a knight/ paladin archetype.
TL;DR: Another revision on how I explain why Jaune fails at being a Joan of Arc Allusion and a Knight Allusion
#RWDE#//Okay Fucking hell this may be the last time I'll talk about Jaune#//Hell I wont even do anymore Jaune shit after this#//Cause I really wanna talk about Sun Wukong#//Or even Curious Cat
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To add a little more to that post about how peaches represent SWK and Mac's relationship:
In the mountain, Macaque is the one to crush the peach in his hand. He offered it to Sun Wukong, and when he didn't accept it and instead yelled at him, he destroyed it and threw it on the ground
In the end, it was Macaque who left first, not the other way around. Now, their broken relationship isn't completely his fault, but he did play a part on it
SWK screamed at him when he tried to mend their friendship, so instead of trying again, he left. That's what broke their relationship for good. Not Sun Wukong yelling, not Liu'er Mihou not looking for him, but Macaque leaving and (as far as we know) not coming back. La gota que colmó el vaso, we could say. Stuff had already been going on between those two. SWK never seemed to genuinely listen to Macaque and his promises of staying forever were empty (he never would've been able to stay in one place for so long) and Macaque never even bothered to communicate his negative feelings over this, so when he warned him he was ignored
Sun Wukong left again and again and again, looking for more power to "be strong enough to protect them", and eventually he lost sight of why he was doing it. But no matter how many times he left, he came back. Macaque didn't
#they both did what they wanted from the other#swk wanted mac to be able to leave when he wanted on the condition that he'd always come back#mac wanted swk to stay w him and be loyal to him the same way he was to swk forever#swk promised they'd stay there forever but even if he had tried he would've eventually broken that promise#the one time macaque left swk on his own he never returned#they both hurt each other so much#it wasn't a one-sided thing like so many ppl believe#“oh but swk left and killed macaque! he's a selfish shit!” “but macaque abandoned swk n hes technically the one at fault for everything!”#shut up#i'm not gonna say neither of them were at fault. cuz they both were#but it wasn't one-sided#now the difference between them is how they act about it. swk is trying to be a better person and to not repeat his past mistakes#macaque gets angry and torments mk (who is a child especially compared to him) for being close to swk#and tries to convince him that swk is a terrible mentor when in reality he's never hurt mk (yet. and even then it wasn't intentional)#most of mk's problems w swk come not only from the fact that swk sucks at communication but also from teh fact that everyone's+#talking shit abt him. they're saying swk sucks n make mk doubt him n himself when swk rlly is just trying his best#anyways i'll get more into that later#lmk#lego monkie kid#sun wukong#the six eared macaque#liu'er mihou#swk#the monkey king#shadowpeach#lmk season 4#peaches#avis talks#avis' post
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Imagine macaque writing composing choreographing and preforming a whole broadway style musical number that’s literally a fancy dis track about wukong and nobody can get really mad about it because he never actually uses wukongs name and it’s genuinely a really good song and performance.
#he put it on Spotify or something and it blew the hell up#‘ GEE who ever it’s song is about must be a real piece of shit!’#he uses a human name and form to publish and talk about the whole thing#there’s an amazing music video obviously ( still using a human form because ‘you can’t prove that’s me’#monkie kid#lego monkie kid#monkie kid macaque#lmk macaque#monkie kid sun wukong#shadowpeach
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finally finished orv after two years . . . what do i do with my life now
#started in junior year hs dropped it for a while then started reading again at the start of this semester and now im finally done !#dont know whether to cheer or just crumple up and start crying bc wow that was a ride#i thought the ending was tragic but then i moved on to the epilogue and oh my godd#the way kdj was crying and miserable bc he missed his companions and he wanted to be with them so Badly#but when kimcom finally Finally chase him down and come back to him theyre too late and hes already disspitated into other world lines#and after that like. whenever kdj pulls some shit and dies the next chapter always starts with an ‘i’#and hes back and alive and kicking and Thinking but after that epilogue chapter there isnt a chapter in his pov theres no more ‘i’s and.#it just made me incredibly sad bc we dont get to see his pov ever again bc hes truly gone unless we as a reader can imagine him alive again#anyways sad things aside it is Incredibly funny that lee hyunsung just became a wanted man in the 1865th round lmaoo#+ uriel sun wukong and black flame dragon forming a band together ??? truly the most randomest thing in the epilogue#++ yoohankim need to stop beating the shit out of e/o and learn to talk their feelings out Please#+++ sooyoung’s love for dokja has me miserable o-|-< she would wait for him an eternity write for him an eternity im so sad#three times she endlessly wrote a novel for him to read three times she waited to see him for so long <//3#you bet im imagining the happiest conclusion i can for them#they WILL live happily ever after in that big house together as long as i have something to say about it!#orv
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*saying this increasingly frantic* If I get the parallel to 3x11 where LBD calls herself a child and Wukong goes "We both know that's not what you are!" And then later LBD asks him if he would really kill an innocent child to kill her and Wukong says "You're giving me no choice! All that time spent locked away and you haven't changed a bit! I'm going to finish this, like I should have done a long time ago!". I am WAITING for this to be applied to MK. I'm waiting. For the love of god please. Look, look, LBD and MK have their "What I am" parallels, and if MK was sealed in the stone (al la EAMK) but he actually came out a child, and he gave Wukong a choice. Do you get me. Do you understand. MK was actually a child. He was a simple creature, with "no past, no family, and no name". And then he became MK, and made it so Wukong could mentor him rather than destroy him. Yet at the same time, destiny always finds you. You can't run from it (ilu 2x09) or rather you can't run from yourself (destiny and identity are intertwined) (MK literally fails to run from himself in 4x07). SO HERE'S HOW WE GET OUR MK VS THE WORLD CHOICE—
#''I just want to be me. To be MK!'' ''Yeah well- we all know where that leads''#I'm dying screaming shaking#NUWA WHAT DID YOU DO#It's so fun to have another character to yell at.#Wukong was your accomplice in creating MK. I feel it in my BONES#Wukong and Nuwa doing fucked up shit together#God damn besties (or perhaps disgruntled peers?)#idk#I could be so wrong or so right#I'm just. AAAAGUGHGHGH. AUAUUGHHHHHGHGHGHGHG.#Wukong in 4x12 who was like ''One of use could take the Jade Emperor on by themselves'' and I'M TELLING YOU#HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MK THERE#JUST. LOOK. LOOK AT IT ALL#lmk#lego monkie kid#what I am#lmk eamk theory#lmk rant#lmk theme: exchange
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