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Tips for Talking to Conservative Friends & Family
In the wake of the election, with the holidays around the corner, some of you may be wondering how to deal with friends, family members, coworkers, etc. who voted for Trump and/or who espouse his policies.
This guide is by no means meant to be authoritative and won't work in every circumstance. I accept no responsibility for what happens if you use any scripts and it goes horribly awry. But I did want to share some of my personal experience in this vein, as someone with a great deal of conservative people in my life whom I generally love and respect and would like to maintain a civil relationship with (and, hopefully, bring them back to center if not my side). I've had decent luck with these strategies in the past.
First: Only engage if it is safe to do so.
Do not get into political discussions that might endanger your job, your living situation, your access to care, or your physical and emotional safety. However, do engage if you are able to do so safely and your doing so might help someone in a more vulnerable position. What the fuck is privilege for if not using it to protect people?
Second: Identify your goal.
Do you want to de-escalate a situation so someone can get out of immediate danger? Do you want to establish a boundary? Or do you want to actually attempt to convert someone over to your side? Each goal has different tactics. Be realistic with yourself about what you're going to accomplish. If you do not have a close relationship with the person, you are extremely unlikely to change their mind about anything, and it's frankly not worth the effort. Let someone who is close to them do that work. De-escalate, set a boundary if possible, and gtfo.
But if you do have a close relationship -- if this person generally likes and respects you -- then you might have a shot at challenging their views.
We're going to assume a scenario where you're dealing with people you know and who you can generally count on not to be immediately aggressive. Somebody else will be better-equipped to talk about strategies for dealing with protests and people on the street etc.
De-Escalation & Setting Boundaries
This is your first line of defense against family members acting shitty. If someone tries to start a debate, makes an off-color joke or comment, or is otherwise behaving inappropriately, try:
Let's not talk about this over dinner.
I don't think this is appropriate conversation right now.
That's an awful thing to say.
I don't understand that joke, can you explain why it's funny?
I'm sorry, I won't listen to any more of this (leave the room)
That's not okay.
What you want to do here is make an appeal to correct standards of behavior. You want them to feel ashamed for acting out of line. In order to make this work, it is essential that you:
Remain calm and keep an even, light-but-firm tone of voice. It needs to be clear that you're not joking around, but you also cannot sound upset. (Yes, this is really hard. I'm sorry.) Practice your very best "I'm not angry, just disappointed" tone for maximum effect. If you can manage it, eye contact and a neutral or even slightly concerned or sad expression will make it even better.
Avoid insulting or attacking them. Do not say things like, "Stop being an asshole" or "I can't believe you're acting like this" no matter how much you want to. Do not say "That's racist/sexist/ableist/homophobic." These types of replies, no matter how accurate, will make them defensive, and defensive people shut down and stop listening. If you come off as angry, that gives THEM permission to be angry right back. But if you come off as the normal one, them getting angry makes them look like a dick.
Do not laugh. Avoid the urge to chuckle nervously or joke it off. It WILL feel uncomfortable. It WILL be awkward as fuck. That's the point. They are misbehaving by violating a standard of appropriate behavior, and you are setting down a boundary. The awkwardness will fade and, frankly, they'll often start behaving better pretty much immediately.
Follow through on your consequences. If you say, "Dad, if you continue to bring up Trump, I will not call you anymore," you have to stick to it. Holding firm to your boundaries is HARD AS FUCK but if you don't do it then all you do is teach them that they can wear you down. Think of it like training a dog. Consistency is key.
You're not going to change anybody's closely-held beliefs with this strategy, but you WILL make a case for what is allowable around you. If you model this behavior, and encourage and embolden other people you know to do the same, you might be surprised. A lot of times, people's inappropriate behavior is a boundary-testing mechanism -- they tell the racist joke because they want to see if they can get away with it -- and if you shut them down, they often just...stop. Or at least retreat into their little hole to talk to fellow gremlins instead of you.
Challenging Views, Changing Minds
Okay. You actually want to engage them in conversation. You want to challenge their views and help them change their opinion. How do you do that?
Again, it's essential that you remain calm. If you can't have this discussion without getting heated, it's not the time to have the discussion. If they start to get heated, be prepared to de-escalate and walk away: "I cannot continue this conversation with you right now. Let's talk again some other time when we've cooled off."
But if you can keep calm, here is what actually works (sometimes):
Listen to them. No, really. Hear them out.
Help them feel heard by empathizing with them. Repeat back your understanding of what they said and how that must feel.
Remind them that for other people, THEY are feeling xyz emotion, too.
Ask them questions. Instead of telling them they're wrong, ask questions that will lead them to draw that conclusion themselves.
Make appeals to emotion rather than starting with facts and logic. You'll know what kind of emotion to draw on because you've been listening to them and empathizing. Hint: almost always, bigotry (at the personal level) is rooted in fear.
If this is going well, THEN you can start citing some sources, statistics, and facts.
Invite them to share THEIR sources with you.
Thank them for doing such a good job at being calm and discussing this with you, reaffirm your close relationship, and encourage them to come talk to you about this at any time. It's very possible that you are the only person they might feel safe bringing this stuff up to now and you want to keep that channel of communication open.
Very often (not always, or often), conservative-leaning individuals are people who lack the education or knowledge that left-leaning people do. They may be accustomed to being insulted, yelled at, and made to feel stupid. They are conditioned to believe that folks on the left are smug, holier-than-thou, stuck-up assholes. Whatever you can do to poke a hole in that perception will simultaneously make it easier to talk to them AND cause them to question that rhetoric the next time they encounter it.
This tactic won't always work. It probably won't work at all the first conversation. It's something you'll have to chip away at over time. But sometimes, it's worth it.
And if it's not? Well. As they say.
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charles leclerc’s pussy is truly haunting the narrative
#thoughts while watching drive to survive#kinda insane how the chussy has some of these grown men acting#i would say im shocked but id be lying#happy thanksgiving
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Wednesday, late night Moth sketching. Putting out some Hummingbird Clearwing dreams for tonight
#original art#artists on tumblr#art of the day#daily sketch#native pollinators#sketch#bugs#digital illustration#hummingbird clearwing#Hemaris thysbe#wednesday#hope everybody survives Thanksgiving#native insects#insect illustration#insects#monochrome
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#every day i come home and i become very very very very sad and very very very lonely and full of heart break#and panic#and then sit at my computer and immerse myself completely in loneliness and melancholy as both an aesthetic and a just punishment for#for being who I am#in order to make sense of it and in order to dull it#and then I make some art or play some video games until I can sleep so I don't kill myself#:(#personal#i belong to the cold and the snow do you understand#nothing else loves me do you understand#venting#i'm thinking about taking two edibles and becoming a vegetable#these are the exact exact exact methods of survival i remember doing when i was first experiencing trauma#sitting in the clothes closet of my 5th grade classroom telling myself i deserved it all in order to make it hurt less#delete later#anyway thanksgiving was nice
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MY MEETING WENT WELL!! Once it started, the anxiety mostly went away!
Now I'm worried because they want the next meeting in 2 weeks and not 4. Doesn't give me a lot of time to research their issues 🫠 But all I can do is my best.
#personal#I mean I get it because Thanksgiving but stiiiiiiiiill don't expect a lot from me#I'm just glad I survived another phone call
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Sometimes u have to admit that the only way your homework is getting done is if you light a bunch of candles, pour a glass of whiskey, and time yourself.
#grad school is doing well#if I survive till thanksgiving it will be mildly surprising#I’ve got no hope for Christmas break
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currently googling “how to survive thanksgiving dinner with my dad’s polish-jewish family and my mom’s italian (sicilian)-catholic family”
#thanksgiving#italy#italia#italiano#italian#polish#poland#catholic#catholiscism#polska#sicily#sicilian#jew#jewish#judaism#reform judaism#y’all help#there’s no way i’m surviving this#let the drama begin#i’m just here to kvetch with my oldest cousin#roman catholic
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chat i’m cooked
#thanksgiving break was like giving a starving man stuck in a desert a taste of heaven#then condemning him to continue his wandering through hell for another two weeks#before allowing him to once again be at peace only after throwing every challenge known to man at him#i’m so brain dead after that break i don’t even know how i’m gonna survive 15 more stressful stressful days#WITH finals!!! and semester grades due!!!#calculus is gonna kill me just watch#it’s already killing me honestly#it’s been killing me all year 🫠#as a math person it’s sucks to be failing at math#(my only B ever and ik it’s not a big deal but also just 🫠)#kiwi shares their thoughts
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i'm still mad that i literally made a hyuninsource blog and tumblr just randomly deleted it. no notification it literally just vanished and now the url is lost in the void. but at least i hadn't done anything to it yet and hyunincorner is cute
#carly.txt#am i suposd to be subtle abt this.#tumblr user hyunin running a hyunin net . shocking#happy thanksgiving to everyone who celebrates btw...today i'm thankful for hyunin#me like i'm gonna start a hyunin net :D#me now that the fun part is done and i have to actually check tags and queue things: 🧍♂️#it'll still be fun i just gotta dropkick my adhd that refuses to let me start simple tasks that are not actually hard at all#pray 4 me and the survival of hyunincorner. thank u
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I always hate the pity I get when I say "I don't have much of a family"
Like, fuck you dude. My family is very small, but my parents distanced themselves from their relatives for a good fucking reason and so have I
#gopher rambles#vent ish#idk im feeling bitter tonight#my grandmothers both died before i was born. my dads dad died when i was very small. my mom when i was 15. my papal last year#my dad's brother and his wife live many states away and we never speak. my moms brother makes me feel super unsafe and his exwife has#(UNDERSTANDABLY) put a lot of distance between herself and the family despite being very intertwined in it#my brother is a piece of shit and i havent had any real sibling love for him since i was ten years old. i tolerate him at a distance.#thats it#all i have is my dad (and my Sib From Another Crib. Corey. but we dont live anywhere near eachother) and my pets#thats it. thats it. i like it that way#for some folks the anger i feel about it might sound overblown because SURELY i dont hear this much right?#well. in the Appalachian culture family is one of the most important things. its supposed to be close knit and clannish. that i basically#have none makes me a bit of an outcast from the community. and i hate it#there is distance between me and my surviving relatives for a good fucking reason and acting like i just need to fix those bonds make me#want to commit great bodily harm. goddamnit#usually when i tell people about my family its to explain something. i dont do thanksgiving. barely do Christmas. ect.
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Happy belated birthday to me :3 didn't post on time, but this is the first birthday I got to celebrate with Sacklet! Unfortunately, due to school, we weren't able to do very much on the day of besides getting some food delivered (I ended up having to eat dinner at work, so no Sacklet with dinner and a tastee shake :( ). I DO have birthday plans, so keep an eye out next week for some super special Sacklet shenanigans <3
#sacklet#sucklet#itemlabel#birthday#im a little sad how thanksgiving break landed this year because usually break is the weekend following my birthday#but now theres still a whole other week of school to survive :(#so all my fun stuff is currently delayed#which means sacklet (and toffee!) have to wait longer too :(#im going to try to have a super special little party and you're not ready to see a super secret i have up my sleeve#but its going to be worth the wait <3#now i just need to actually survive this last week before break
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happy thanksgiving @relentlessescapism! i love you so much and i hope your ireland trip goes amazing!!!
anything as long as i can see your face, right now you're so far away, so far away
#poppy tetanui#marlon sousa#poppymarlon#surviving summer#surviving summer netflix#poppymarlonedit#poppytetanuiedit#marlonsousaedit#survivingsummeredit#gif#gifs#*mine#thanksgiving gifts
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thank you all for joining me in the bpd L agenda, my most beloved niche headcanon
#ok bye with that posted it is time to break out the ontario weed & disappear into the ether#i survived thanksgiving i am not going to be a hero and try to be normal the next day
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goodnight my gresties!!! spending my night thinking about the twins….. just like every day 😌 they make me feel Insane!!!!! and god they take up my entire brain!!! but gn i love y’all sm… manifest twin dreams for me 🥰❤️😵💫
#i managed to survive my first night at my parents’ house…..#we’re getting through it yall!!!! now to survive thanksgiving ❤️#li speaks#jake#josh
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so looking forward to mashed potato holiday this week ✨🤤
for those of y’all with finals coming up when we get back from break, make sure to rest a bit while you’re studying/writing etc
#made good progress on my presentation for when we get back from break yippee#so I’ll get to binge watch more dressrosa tonight >:)#and probably cry cause I think I’m close to the Cora and law backstory#aside from that I hope everyone has a good thanksgiving break and that you survive the out of pocket comments relatives like to make#and that you eat all the yummy foods and get some rest this week if you can#my love for mashed potatoes goes so hard I’m known to be THE mashed potato conosseiur/devourer at the holidays#and I ain’t even mad about it
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The aftg reread sounded like a good idea until i got to chapter 11 of the raven king
#it’s just as gutwrenching every time#it doesn’t matter how many times i read it nothing can prepare me#so glad i’m swedish and don’t celebrate thanksgiving#forever going to associate thanksgiving with chapter 11 i’m afraid#i don’t know how i’m going to survive the sunshine court#FIVE DAYS#the raven king#all for the game#the sunshine court
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