#supernatural there's something about mary
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something i keep thinking about is who mary is to sam. she didn't raise him; he doesn't know her except through the stories john and dean told him. she exists in pictures and print, not in memories. she's a stranger to him, yet his entire life has revolved around her. he seeks revenge for a woman he's never met or known or loved. she's just a secondhand god to a nonbeliever, omnipresent but never actually there, never actually touched or held or shared. he's outside the church looking in on the mass but never able to partake. it must be alienating, for your family to have known god while you're left only to your own faith.
#supernatural#sam winchester#sam's relationship to mary reminds me of like. growing up in the bible belt#there's an article i read a while back about how the south is haunted by christ#everpresent and distorted in a way you can never escape from. something that defines you no matter what you believe#i like to think sam is haunted by mary in the same way#.txt#sam#the winchester gospel#spn posting
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12x21 | 13x01
#losing my mind tbh#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#eileen leahy#castiel#saileen#destiel#spn rewatch#there's something about mary#lost and found
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Dean Winchester Birthday Week - Day 2 - Favorite Action Moment.
#spn edit#dean edit#sam edit#canonspngifs#My Gifs#spn 12x21#spn 12.21#spn s12e21#something about mary#dean winchester#dean winchester edit#dean winchester gifs#jensen ackles edit#jensen ackles gifs#supernatural season 12 episode 21#happy birthday dean week#happy birthday dean winchester
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anna x mary
#the story we all deserve tbh#annamary#marry winchester#anna milton#spn#supernatural#spn stuff#sapphicnatural#something something about mary leaving everything behind#something about her starting a life away from everything and meeting anna#something about the way dean and cas are basically mary and anna#but the cw fucked it up etc#moodboard#spn moodboard
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both parents know evil could be lurking at any corner. and yet
#something about mary having grown up in the life and wanting hope love peace and safety for her children#something about john having clumsily stumbled into the life and having this black and white view of the world where the only future for his#kids ends in darkness#mary wanted to instill goodness in them. john just armed them.#john winchester#mary winchester#spn#supernatural#spnedit#supernaturaledit#john winchester :(#derryth.txt
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s a m . . . i'm good. i am. 14.01 STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND
#spnedit#samedit#maryedit#sammary#sam x mary#stop hitting on me mom i'm in the middle of something!!#i find their dynamic so interesting especially how uncomfortable he is after all with her attempts to be maternal#and to be fair she goes about it really weirdly#this whole scene she's trying to get him to go to bed but her body language says she wants to join him#mary is his mother but only dean gets to be his mommy#supernatural#it's a good deal#s14#stranger in a strange land#*
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Perhaps the most interesting thing Chuck ever said is "humans… they'll break your heart every time".
#chuck is a childish gambling addict#he is and acts like a total douchebag#but i was making the same mist-take i blame s14 of#that is considering something or someone as the primary source of evil#this. again. is morality. fun morality because it's reversed morality but i was still in the cage of black and white thinking#i must pay more attention when words such as “order” or “natural” are thrown around because they're loaded#and always hide the dynamics of biopower#much to think about also in relation to my resurrection studies lol#and how actual birth is almost never there in the story. it's always about symbolical re-birth#when birth does happen most of the time the mother dies because of or after the birth and they never get resurrected#except mary winchester. and that was a GIFT.#and gifts are also very much connected to exchange economy#therefore mary is treated like goods.#they weren't kidding then they said that we will always end up here. huh?#this is the inauguration of my chuck studies yeah!#supernatural#spn#spn s15#chuck shurley#chuck god#chuck the gambler#on resurrection#b/w spn#super-m/Others
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One reason Dean Winchester became a bad father to Jack Kline is Dean's own beliefs about being a father vs a brother became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Both times he explicitly acts as a father, he hurts his children (or fails to stop them being hurt). His guilt confirms what he learned from his own dad, which is that fathers cause fear and hurt. In this essay I will
#could go for so long about how his relationships with jody claire and sam vs ben emma and jack inform how he acts with kids#none of this is to excuse how he treated jack and ben#or to say that hes a bad person#just that he hasnt been in a good enough place to be a dad since pre s6#and even then he was still in the process of healing and changing his behavior#and hes never gotten past that point#he was so afraid of becoming his dad that he let his guilt turn him into his dad#although i fully believe chuck had something to do with s14 and 15#specifically the end of 15#bc dean basically fully regressed in recognizing/changing his behavior and how he treated jack#which HAD gotten better pre marys death#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#jack kline
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Sam would find out he was a C-section baby and would take it as indisputable proof that he’s actually evil
#something about the cut for the c-section and the cut that was on Mary and Jess as they died#spn#supernatural#sam winchester
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Something about Sam trying so hard to escape the life of hunting and actually escaping and being happy just to be dragged back in. Something about Mary cutting all ties to her family to try and have a normal life with her family only to become the reason her family gets become hunters in the first place. Something about being doomed to repeat the same things that happened to your family. Something about having an inescapable faith that you hate.
#spn#supernatural#this fucking show#this actually hits me so hard#something about running from a life you hate only to end up there anyways#especially if you hate it because of your family#some sort of fucked up infinite cicle#the parallels between the break me#littarly no idea how to formulate this but thoose who get it get it#sam winchester#mary winchester
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see what gets me about provenance is that sam is really scared of pursuing a relationship with sarah and other girls because he's afraid they're going to die. sam is cursed, the people he loves will die bloody, he doesn't want that, so he's staying away from people.
but this curse, textually, from sam's own mouth, can affect his family too:
so this isn't just limited to his romantic endeavors. anyone who's close to him, including his family, might die if they stick around him.
so what about dean??? he fits the criteria, but sam is still hanging onto him like a monkey on a vine. and what does this say about sam?
in some ways, i think there's a sense of hero-worship at play, like sam truly believes that dean can handle whatever comes his way and he'll be safe. there's a sense of protectiveness from sam throughout season 1, but dean carries himself in a way that is reassuring to sam. when he tells sam that he'll protect him, sam believes him without question, even if he's still worried. sam believes, or wants to believe, in dean's bravado.
which is interesting considering the episode faith, where sam very well could have blamed himself for dean getting hurt and almost dying (and maybe he did, and that was why he was so desperate to save him, no matter the cost—dean saw it as his time coming, but sam saw it as an unnatural death brought on by his curse, perhaps, and so he was willing to go to unnatural lengths to prevent it).
in other ways though, the context of the season makes me feel like above anything else the reason is that sam can't do this without dean, and he's willing to take the risk (and therefore handle the consequences himself, do whatever he has to do to keep dean safe from him). even in a story where sam has to choose between opposing forces that can't coexist—his revenge or dean, he can only pick one—dean is woven into every fiber of his quest for revenge. the revenge can't be pursued without dean, and dean is the opposition to sam's revenge, so sam never really had a choice to begin with: he was always going to pick dean.
i just love that even sam's greatest fears exempt dean—he wants dean there with him so badly that his no-relationships rule doesn't apply to him (and the same goes for dean, too, what a coincidence), and he accepts whatever risk there might be because he can't do this without him. dean is the exception, dean is sam's big brother, dean is the one person he can't lose even when he believes he's putting dean in danger just by driving around with him.
and dean doesn't even know any of this. he doesn't have a clue about the extent of sam's love or what sam is willing to risk to be with him, because sam never told him.
#liveblogging: supernatural#1.19#in some ways i want to say this isn't that deep and the evidence is somewhat conflicting so as to not lead to any particular conclusions#in other ways i want to say they wouldn't have confirmed sam blames himself for mary's death if it didn't mean something about dean#and in still other ways i want to say it IS that deep. even deeper actually and this REALLY means sam thinks dean is his girlfriend#so you know there are a lot of layers you can play with here#personally i'm partial to the girlfriend interpretation. but that's just me#spn1#.txt#every morning i wake up and write an essay about supernatural. this is a very dangerous habit to get into#spn posting
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why did they have to give such a savage line to such an unlikeable character
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“Kelly's now in the clutches of the Winchesters' love slave, Castiel”
This line doesn’t get enough attention
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you grow up in a life you don't want. you have to kill monsters from a very young age. you are way too young for this, but again, you don't get asked what kind of life you want. it's already been decided for you. nobody cares that you want to get out, that you want to live a normal life. so you kill the monsters, and you make the deals because, above all else, you care and you love, and if you can't get that happy ending, hell, someone else has to. but one day, you've enough, and you have lost so much already. you deserve another life, you want to get out and try it one lost time. but life is rarely fair, and the only way for you to get out of this is by dying. to die by the hands of the things you've been fighting your whole life to keep others safe.
people will idolize you after your death. that's what they do with heroes, after all. it's not what you would've wanted, but heroes rarely get what they want, do they? so you'll always be the mother who died in a fire to save her son. you become the main catalyst for your husbands vengeance, even though all you ever wanted to be was mary winchester, or maybe even just... mary.
#mary winchester#I've been having very strong feelings about her#something something about the fact that you could swap her name with deans#something something about holding women to higher standards and hating them for wanting a life#she is...yeah <3#she is dean and dean is her and i care about them so fucking much#spn#supernatural#spn stuff
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Man. And I was ready to see ten year old Jamie get fed up and get confrontational / get some kind of angry kid arc or something
#q watches halloween#i wanted to see a ten year old outsmart michael okay. is that too much to ask. it would've been fun#jamie acting outside of both what Loomis wants her to do in his increasing paranoia *and* using that psychic connection or whatever#to her advantage#keep tina around and let her develop and step fully into the role of Jamie's guardian#anyway i paused the film on this close up shot of a tv screen that shows Michael's face#and in the very bottom left corner there's just this mother mary statue#and something about that visual did make me laugh thank#ALSO they had Jamie get that one violent impulse at the end of 4 and they should've leaned into that more#something something give Jamie an arc about overcoming those impulses / learning where to direct her anger#i KNOWW its a supernatural evil spirit thing but let Jamie manipulate it to her advantage. thatd be neat
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thinking about sam and his relationship to music - growing up with 60s 70s 80s rock blasting all the time and how he probably rejected or criticized that when he could just to distance himself from john and dean. and when he gets to stanford he's be utterly out of touch or uninterested in music his peers listens to and prefers the stabilizing silence he now surrounds himself with after 20 years filled with static noise of the motel TVs, impala engine revving, guitar riffs and mullet rock. but he misses john and dean on occasion so he'll hum songs now and then. he starts digging a little and tries to find music mary might have liked, because then he could get to know her and understand who she was because if music was important to father and brother it must have been for mother too, right? he wants to understand and connect. jessica and other friends introduce him to some bands and they're cool and so sam starts branching out when he has the time so he can fit in. if they like it he should like it too. dean puts on the same old stuff and sings along while sam is bittersweet about it (it's nostalgic and lyrics are burned into him but the eternal soundtrack of a life he didn't want). he still listens to jessica's favourites and he gathers songs from people to remember; jo, ellen, ash, bobby, andy, madison, bela, deanna, samuel, sarah, charlie, even ruby. introduces castiel and jack to music he thinks they would like. talks to a resurrected mary about judy collins and the beatles to make her comfortable. nobody really knows what sam likes himself, he just knows what everyone else listens to.
#sam winchester#supernatural#idk something something about this never being addressed on the show outside of gags and so it's a piece of sam that just belongs to him#sam trying to connect to mary to understand who she was and why he can't talk or ask about her by using music as a tool#and because music is so vast and so personal for people for various reasons#he makes playlists like photoalbums to remember people he loved and lost. but nothing is HIS music#it's always someone elses#idk i think sam knows alot of music and music history but if you gave him the aux cord he'd just put on what the driver would like
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