#striken Athena

[gryph-the-condor]

I had too.

Spider-Man pointing meme

@coquexari Banished Athena! AU

@lethia-not-athena Striken Athena! AU

Oh who should I add next? (Which au)

[lethia-not-athena]

"Zeus???"

"Huh?"

"Why did you turn into Mrs Penelope?"

"What?"

"..."

"ALRIGHT. TIME TO GET SOME OF THAT PAPERWORK DONE-"

"But you hate paperwork-"

[lethia-not-athena]

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I love these art asks sm...

PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING

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[el-jarado]

"Everything's Changed Since Polites"

In light of the extensive re-litigation of the events of Storm Saga after the Thunder Saga, I find myself thinking about "Keep Your Friends Close" a lot recently, and how I think Odysseus was set up for failure from the get-go, and not because of his crew being bad.

Polites's absence is felt like a knife in Storm Saga but the whole gang is feeling it. When "Luck Runs Out" comes up, this is the first time Eurylochus has seriously questioned Odysseus's plan in the musical; probably the first time he's seriously questioned him in over a decade. And what passes between them is pretty telling to me.

Where is this coming from, my friend? I just don't wanna see another life end You're like the brother I could never do without And suddenly, you doubt that I could figure this out?

From what I've seen, Epic takes the approach that Odysseus, Polites, and Eurylochus have been together since they were children. Polites is Odysseus's best friend, but he was Eurylochus's friend too, and he's the first of all of them to die in battle since Odysseus started leading them. They're both reeling from that loss, but how it comes out is bad for both of them. Eurylochus, as we see, is someone who locks down when he's shaken; focus on immediate safety for his shipmates even if it prevents a better course of action (run when the other cyclopses show up, the food is not worth having to take on another dozen Polyphemus; get the crew the fuck away from the sexy witch before she turns the rest of them into pigs; avert starvation NOW deal with (more) angry gods LATER). He does not want Odysseus to get hurt dealing with something as dangerous as a god, and tries to express that. Odysseus withdraws into himself and lashes out at anything that tries to reach him when he's shaken; he's already lashed out at Athena when she takes him to task while he's still grief-striken over Polites, and here he doesn't hear his brother saying "please don't be reckless, I can't lose you too", he hears "you weren't good enough to bring everyone home, and we don't believe in you anymore." He's cold and dismissive to Eurylochus's doubts to cover for his own hurt, and that just makes those doubts worse.

It's exactly the wrong mindset to approach Aeolus in, and this is the part I've really been turning over in my head. Aeolus's game does sound too easy; all he's gotta do is not open the bag, while sailing on a ship staffed by 43 men he's been leading for ten years, many of whom he's probably known his entire life. The winions add the obvious catch in that they spread a rumor among the crew that the bag is a treasure Odysseus is keeping to himself before Odysseus can explain himself, but I think in many ways Aeolus's whole song is putting a finger on the scales. Aeolus, in presenting it to Odysseus, implies that some of his brothers are enemies and should be treated as such, and the winions, spreaders of mischievous whispers, keep telling him "never really know who you can trust." (And imply he should kill and sacrifice when it's convenient, the act that ultimately destroys all trust in the crew down the road.) And I think that's a malicious twist in the game just as much as "It's treasure~! Buh-bye!" :D

Odysseus went up to the island feeling sore and defensive after his last talk with Eurylochus, and when he's told to keep his friends close and his enemies closer, it's interesting to me that he doesn't think "I don't have any enemies on that ship, those men are my brothers" or even "who can I trust to help me with this?"

He thinks "I need to do this entire thing myself." It could be hubris, a quality Odysseus certainly doesn't lack for, but I think this is the shadow of Polites not being there again. Odysseus had to leave some of his men behind for the first time in ten years, and he thinks he's lost their faith because of it. He's guided to expect a betrayal and feels like he needs to do something amazing all on his own to show Eurylochus and the others he's still got it, Polyphemus was a fluke.

Part of my understanding of human nature has been that people respond to our expectations and treatment of them. I sincerely believe if Odysseus had taken Eurylochus and/or a few of his most trusted men into his confidence for managing the bag, the temptation to open it would have been greatly diminished or negated. Odysseus doesn't treat any of his friends as if they're worthy of his trust, because Aeolus got in his head and he's trying to prove something to himself and to them by doing this singlehandedly. However, people respond to how you treat them, and Odysseus not realizing the crew are just as shaken by Polites's loss as he is and treating them with suspicion makes worry fester into doubt.

Polites's loss is felt keenly again; he's not there to tell Odysseus he can relax, that kindness is brave and he should trust in his friends to support him instead of treating them like potential enemies (Ody remarks on being unopposed as if he was expecting otherwise, which is not the relationship he's had with the crew up to now), and he's not there to reassure Eurylochus and the crew Odysseus must have a good reason for his cagey, secretive behavior and they shouldn't listen to the winions continuing to suggest a little peek to make sure of things wouldn't hurt. (I take the continued presence of the winions in the song to imply they're harassing the crew with rumor the entire time Odysseus is keeping to himself and trying not to sleep.) I don't think Eurylochus would have wanted to look in the bag if he was brought in on protecting it, that's not his relationship with Odysseus, but when they're nearly to Ithaca, Odysseus hasn't said a word to anyone in days, nobody really knows what's going on but there's all these rumors flying and the Captain's acting strange...

It would not surprise me if Epic's interpretation is similar to the Odyssey where they're almost back when the bag opens, in which case it might be even more tragic as an Orpheus & Eurydice twist; I don't think it was a case where the bag would've been opened the moment Ody turned his back, I think he stayed awake for nine days out of wholly unjustified paranoia/trying to make a point he's still got it by doing everything himself, and Eurylochus and the crew celebrated too early when their destination was in sight. They thought they were home, there's no harm in having a look now, right? Wrong; Aeolus (probably deliberately) didn't specify when it would be safe to open the bag, and certainly didn't feel the need to warn Odysseus the magic winds inside would blow them miles away from where they opened it. Like Orpheus makes it out of the underworld and then ruins his hard work because he looks back just before Eurydice has, I suspect the crew was not trying to open the bag during the days Odysseus was depriving himself of sleep to watch it; it's at the seeming end of the journey that "they wanna get the bag open so they can have closure." Like most bad ideas, it is likely Eurylochus did what he did when it didn't seem like there was any obvious harm in it; Odysseus said don't open the bag until we're home, but Ithaca's in sight, what could it hurt to celebrate a little early?

To make a long story short, I think Ody and the boys were hosed with the wind bag trial from the start without Polites around, and it's not just because the crew fell for a rumor introduced to make the game harder and Eurylochus eventually acted on it; it's also because a god Ody just met told him not to trust his friends, and he believed the god he just met instead of them because he's still mourning his best friend and misread his other best friend's concern for his safety as a sign his leadership was faltering. God games are rarely if ever fair; the house always wins, and it's a lesson Ody learns slowly and painfully.

I'm also not gonna do another long post about my point that people, Odysseus included, keep forgetting making it back to Ithaca with Poseidon still royally pissed at them would've been very very bad, but making it back to Ithaca with Poseidon still royally pissed at them would've been very very bad!

[terrenceoithacahaterone]

Intro post

My name is Antinous of Ithaca, and this is my hate account for the dumb and smelly little wolf Telemachus.

Reasons:

1 - HE FUCKING BIT ME!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE HIM!? ALL I DID WAS TRY TO KILL HIM AND SUDDENLY I'M THE BAD GUY!?!?!?

2 - HE WON'T LET ME BANG HIS MOM. LIKE DUDE, GAME IS GAME!!!

3 - HE'S SO SMELLY LIKE DUDE YOU SMELL LIKE ADVENTURE AND SPONSERSHIPS EWWWWWW

So yeah, fuck Telemachus of Ithaca.

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@telemachusofnowhere - some bitch fucking dumbass, fucking hate him.

@future-king-of-ithaca - a much better version of Telemachus, my little blueberry muffin pie 💙💙����

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Hey, mod here! This is an Influencer!AU antinous blog. My friend convinced me to make it lol-

You may know me for being the creator of the Striken!Athena AU, I just made this for fun. There's no harassment to Jorge, Mico or anyone else involved in the creation of Epic!

Dni: any NSFW blogs, anyone begging for money, anyone Anti LGBTQ. Overall bigots.

When antinous talks: "When's your tramp of a mother gonna choose a new husband?"

When I talk: L + Ratio + no Bitches + No Penelope bozo.

That's all, have fun!

[mortal-of-messangers]

Welcome

Hello, Dawling! Welcome to this blog of mine. A few people I... knew. Have these, so I thought it would be a good idea to get one of these myself.

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QnA:

What's your name?

Hermes.

No, you're not Hermes. He doesn't exist anymore.

...It was only a joke, Dawling! My name is Troy.

Age?

Older than you~

Where are you staying right now?

I'm currently in Ithaca, I guess it depends what you consider as a home. I stay anywhere that doesn't charge rent

Are you using humor to cope???

...what the fuck is 'cope'???

Where did you get those scars?

Stop asking questions, dawling! It won't end well for you.

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Au name?

Striken!Hermes AU!

Plot?

Hermes was struck down by Zeus and turned mortal after the Olympians found out Hermes is one of the main reasons Odysseus escaped that island.

Hermes is... KIND of Mortal? He has no powers, but he can't die... sort of.

Natural causes can't kill him, the only way Hermes/Troy can die is if somebody murders him. The gods would refuse to put Hermes out of his misery, meaning he either has to wait for somebody to try and kill him or he has to beg for the mercy of death.

He's using Humor to cope with the fact he's practically lost everything he has. This man is immortal... yet he gets none of the things that made it worth living forever.

The scars are permanent, they are forever engraved onto Troy's skin.

A constant reminder of the mistake he made.

In the eyes of most gods, Hermes is dead. He's just gone. Nobody (besides Iris) even saw Hermes get struck (unlike Athena).

Zeus is the only one who's meant to know, and Iris has now taken Hermes's status as the major Messanger God

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Interract:

Epic rp Blogs, Epic AU rp blogs, Epic OC rp blogs, PJO rp blogs, PJO OC rp blogs, Greek Mythology rp blogs, Greek Mythology AU rp blogs, Greek Mythology OC rp blogs, Anons, and anything like that.

DNI:

Homophobic, Transphobic Xenophobic, Islamophobic, etc. Misogynistic Racist, sexist, Ableist, discrimination, etc.

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List of people he knows:

[To be added]

@maggiemelodies09 - my wonderful Girlfriend, Maggie

@the-little-islander - the awesome kiki

@4mph1r1t3 - My aunt

@nymph-queen-and-protector - one of my only friends, Circe

[future-king-of-ithaca]

"Hello!"

Lethia smiled at Telemachus, she seemed to be acting as if they never met.

(Basically in the Striken Athena AU, Lethia/Athena and Tele are basically siblings. I haven't met a blog who knew that info so I just make lethia dumber lol-)

"Oh, hey Athena!" He smiled warmly. "long time, no see! How've you been?" He leans on his sword, which he'd been training with- the blade was digging into the dirt, and he was falling over slightly, but he didn't care. He was seeing his friend!

[katerinaaqu]

little question: why is helios sometimes refered as hyperion? like im pretty sure thats a titan (and his father apparently)

Hey! Thanks for the question for it does pop up a lot and is very valid!

Helios Hyperion literally means "Sun Up Above"

"Hyperion" comes from the greek word "hyper" which means "over" or "above".

Just like humans in homeric poems gods too have epithets and "sirnames" which they get identified with (for example "Pallas Athena", "Cyan/Dark-Haired Poseidon", "Cloud Gatherer Zeus" etc)

Helios is indeed a Titan that also is worshipped as a minor deity or divinity as a personification of the sun (also related to the myth of Phaethon, the youth that drove the carriage of Helios but couldn't control it, leading to a crazy ride that caused harm to the world and eventually was striken down by Zeus if I recall correctly and he fell to his death).

In a way "Helios Hyperion" here is the "greek version" of "Sol Invictus" (the Unbeatable Sun in latin), if someone can make that analogy. In the Odyssey he keeps his cattle in the island of Thrinacia.

Of course sometimes yes they treat Hyperion as a separate entity and a titan who is the father of Helios, in the Odyssey it is more like an epithet for the sun itself. So Helios Hyperion is also in a way a deity in the Odyssey in a way since we also see Odysseus's men offering sacrifice to him or promising more glorious sacrifices to.

However it highly depends on the person who transfers the myth. In the Odyssey seems to be used as an epithet of Helios. In Homeric Hymns for example Hymn for Demeter we apparently see them as two different entities. Perhaps Helios in the homeric poems uses the name of his father as an epithet? Either way it seems to be used as such. I hope that helps.

[fightlittlepup]

°•☆《Intro》☆•°

Name: Σολάνα (Solana) Iris Wilson.

Title: Princess of Ithaca, soon-to-be Future Queen of Ithaca.

Age: 21

"Thank you so much for checking this blog out! I'm Solana, but you can just call me Σολάνα!!! My mom's been away for... 20 years. I know she'll be back one day! Look, I just hope you enjoy your time here, okay? Good, enjoy~"

Likes: My mother (if I met her), Ithaca, Adventure, Dogs, the Sunlight, Archery.

Dislikes: The Suitor (fuck you, Antinous.), being locked in my room, being sheltered, the Nickname "pup", not... being good enough.

DNI: Antinous (joke), Homophobes, haters of my da- Apollo (joke), people asking for money (I'm broke), toxic people in general, and NSFW blogs.

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Hey! Surprisingly, this blog ISN'T owned by Solana's creator. I'm a friend of hers, Zippy Skyfalls :D you probably know me for the Warrior!Penelope blog or my Striken!Athena AU blot (I'm the creator of the AU)

Please just be nice and have fun, this is an AU where Jasmine (Solana's mother) replaces Odysseus in the Odyssey, leading Solana to replacing Telemachus.

Have fun!!

[l-l-l-l-legendary]

Once I got an ask saying "you should interact with the Striken Athena/Lethia blog!" And I just burst out laughing because I moderate BOTH of those accounts-

[redhatmeg]

It's not that I don't understand that grief-striken Athena guards the memories/data of her dead daughter.

It's just that we didn't encounter those fuckers the whole sequel and now they're suddenly here, and honestly, it's adick move on developer's part.

[katerinaaqu]

It depends on the source. Apollodorous names Diomedes as one of the suitors of Helen so according to him, they met during the time they were courting Helen (but I agree with those who state that it doesn't seem likely since Diomedes would have been a child) so most likely they met at Aulis where the fleet was gathering up for the preparations of the war or Troy itself. There isn't much of a source to say they crossed paths before given that Odysseus was but a lad when he went to Messina to collect the dept so Diomedes was either not born or just a baby at that time or very very young (which could still be cute to imagine if somehow they crossed paths! Hahaha!) It doesn't seem likely that they met somewhere on the way when Odysseus went to Parnassus either. His age there was not specified but most likely as they say it was "when he passed adolessence" aka when he was like 15-18 years of age so probably Diomedes was not even born at that time (or was very young).

So seems more likely that they met at Aulis during the events of the sacrifice of Iphigenia and all or at Troy itself (Unless you take Apollodorus as the source and you take the theory that they met at Sparta as suitors of Helen). Part from that it seems unlikely that they somehow had some sort of face to face connection before given how Diomedes was busy fighting wars since he was 14 (Epigonoi, restoring his grandfather etc)

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Now for the disasters they caused together well hahaha we can only take the Trojan War as we see it in Homer how the two of them were spies to the Trojan side and ended up capturing and killing Dolon, the Trojan spy (Diomedes killed him and Odysseus stood at the side and watched), and they captured him by lying on the ground among the corpses pretending being those! XD Later they entered the camps and stole some horses while killing a few men in the process and then brought the horses back as gifts!

Odysseus rescues Diomedes when his foot is striken by Paris's arrow and he in turn gets trapped in the battlefield and receives a spear to his side, making both of them abandon the battle for a little while.

Post-homeric sources have them team up to killing Palamedes (more specific Pausanias unlike Hygenius doesn't mention the framing but claims that Odysseus and Diomedes killed Palamedes in a fishing expedition by drowning him in the sea.

They were also teaming up according to some sources to bring Philoctetes from Lemnos along with his bow and arrows that belonged to Heracles.

They also disguise themselves as beggars and enter the city of Troy to steal the Palladium of Athena according to the prophecy and killing a few Trojans on their way out too (Here some post-homeric and mainly roman sources that tend to make Odysseus more amoral, make him try to stab Diomedes in the back so that he will get full credit for the stealing of the Paladium but his sowrd is seen at the shadow made by the moon and so Diomedes deflects him and still doesn't kill him back because he knows they need him for the war, giving the name to the popular phrase "Diomedes's need" which means do something out of necssity for the greater good even if it is unpleasant)

There isn't much to suggest that Diomedes and Odysseus met after the war. Since both Diomedes and Odysseus engaged to their own ardous trip each; Odysseus roaming about Mediterannean sea for 10 years and Diomedes was exiled from Argos when his wife cheated on him and conspired with her lover on that. Diomedes mainly kept founding cities in Italy and later earned the status of god.

It doesn't seem possible that they met after the events of the Iliad again especially given that Odysseus had to travel to mainland Greece after Odyssey to discover those who do not know what sea is or season their food with salt so that he would built a temple to Poseidon and appease his anger. Diomedes was probably fighting his own battles in Italy.

I hope this helps! ^_^

Do we know when Odysseus and Diomedes first met? They definitely know each other before the events of the Iliad, but I’ve never read anything about their friendship before all of that went down. 

Also I badly want stories about the two of them when they’re younger going on adventures and being a pair of bicon shit-disturbers 

[lethia-not-athena]

Main Blog: @zippyskyfalls . This is for art/suggestive asks, PLEASE storm me there instead!!

"Oh, Hello! My name is Lethia, daughter of Penelope of Ithaca and sister to Telemachus of Ithaca. Sister of Nymeria. I haven't had much luck remembering anything for these past 5 months. All I have is this weird dagger I carry around. All I have is my dagger, my spear, and Larry(a, I know nothing right now. People are asking me a lot about the gods, but I have no information on the topic. I'm sorry if we've met before, but I can't remember anything from before earlier today - besides my family - . If we've met... I'm sorry."

"If I don't know you, stay away from me. I'm not letting you get close to Larry."

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"A-Are you here to learn about me? I'm sorry... there's nothing to learn about."

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Striken Athena!AU (Original concept)

LORE:

After the events of God games, the bolt did serious damage, causing Athena to lose her memories, she only remembered 3 words. "Is she dead?"

Athena was then found by Telemachus and Penelope, to which she was taken under Penelope's wing. She goes by Lethia now!

She doesn't remember her past at all, the phantom shock from the thunder caused her powers to be disabled, the only sign of her immortality is the ichor she still bleeds.

UPDATE:

Lethia met a wonderful Siren named Nymeria... she unfortunately passed away. It's only Lethia and her pet shark now. She doesn't live in Ithaca anymore. She's in the cave Nymeria was killed in, hoping she'll one day come back.

"Please come back."

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"Who's your mother?"

Penelope of Ithaca.

"Do you remember your dad?"

I know I have one, but he's been gone for years.

"Any siblings?"

Telemachus, but I swear I remember a voice talking to me before THAT day

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Likes: My mother, Odysseus, Telemachus, swords fighting, reading, exploring.

Dislikes: not remembering who I am, my mother's suitors.

Extra information: why do you want it?.

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People I trust:

@penelope-is-waiting - my mother!!!

@ceixion-of-ithaca - he's a cool guy. He's my brother's brother in another world!

@sunlights-daughter - I trust her... a bit.

@4mph1r1t3 - basically my other mother!

@the-goddess-of-chaos-eris - Eris! She's the nicest goddess I've met so far. (Sure, hope nothing bad happens)

@banished-tele - cool guy to mess with! Feels like my brother

@whysoshocked - one of my best friends! We both relate to memory loss

@gryph-the-condor - my first ever friend!

@apollo-god-of--like--everything - my brother, my real one, at least.

@odysseus-of-ithaka - my student, pain in my ass sometimes, but I care about him.

@antinous-of-ithaca-but-cuter - "My super cool husband boyfriend pretty amazing awesome, silly cute adorable lover partner" - Telemachus

@athena-not-lethia - Chat I have no idea who they are they're nothing like me/j

@thalia-of-ithaca - Apparently, my daughter! I love her :D

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Athena talks like this, Telemachus talks like this, and I talk like this!

[pog-through-the-suffering]

it occurs to me perhaps i should elaborate on “you think tommy is theseus? no, tubbo is theseus.”

i probably don’t have to because this is tumblr and the greek mythology nerdery came free with your xbox but... i want to :)

why you’re always stronger than a greek hero

they’re always doomed to fail :)

or: karo spends wayyy way way too much time thinking about greek mythology, parallels, and block men, because she’s a nerd.

the first part is easy to explain: techno’s saying this speech to tommy, but while tommy gets nominally/officially/physically exiled, tubbo gets emotionally exiled. and that’s maybe even a greater tragedy than tommy’s.

sure, tommy has to spend time away from war. boo hoo. he still has his brothers he can talk to, and his friends back in new l’manberg believe in his cause—the only reason it didn’t work out was because tubbo shut it down before it could massively fudge over new l’manberg.

but tubbo - tubbo has very few people. first, as his position as president, he is automatically a little detached/isolated from everybody else. second, because tommy (like wilbur) deftly manipulated the narrative so it seemed like he was completely reasonable in declaring war against a near-god over some fudging music discs and “dignity” was a good idea. and so people come to view tubbo as a traitor and the second coming of jschlatt.

who else can tubbo talk to? niki - but she might still take tommy’s side, what with her connection to ranboo. and everybody else trivializes him a little.

he is - if not a hero, at least justified and trying to do the best for new l’manberg. and what does he get? exiled, emotionally.

tommy is a classic greek hero plagued by hubris, no two ways about it. the whole time he was like “dream you have no power over me” i was just mumbling “wax wings, tommy, you’re on wax wings.”

because it has historically never been a good idea to challenge a god. arachne, one of the classic examples of hubris, challenged athena and was turned into a spider. if you read into the interpretation that dream lashed out over feeling helpless, then there’s a version of the arachne myth where athena turns her into a spider because arachne weaved a tapestry depicting all the faults of the gods. if you read into the interpretation that dream simply wanted to punish tommy for his hubris, athena does this in countless other interpretations.

which is why it bothered me that people wanted techno’s welcome to tommy to be “welcome home, theseus.” the aesthetic is wonderful, i admit, but tommy is not theseus, not the version techno projects at least. he is a greek hero born of hubris, he deserves to be laughed at and scorned. he is a cautionary tale embodied, but because he’s so good at appealing to the narrative and his main character syndrome, the audience views him as a theseus rather than an icarus.

on that note about the version of theseus techno projects-

you know... when techno did his whole speech about theseus being a hero but still being cast out, like of course i love the drama of it—never stop—but it occurs to me now that he’s misquoting (at least of what i understand) theseus’ story to be.

theseus (of what i remember, and also a quick wikipedia search) never gets exiled. his father is initially suspicious of him (because his father abandons him at first) but learns he’s theseus and accepts him with open arms. he never gets exiled, what??? on a meta level i’m pretty sure techno just changed it around for the drama (and if phil is to be believed, the improv might’ve just shut off his memory of the myth itself), but i choose to believe in the power of happy accidents and deeper meanings.

theseus never gets exiled: in fact, he’s celebrated as a hero. in fact in fact - theseus never really has some huge tragedy. sure - his father commits suicide after thinking his son died, he has a couple tragedies of family. but none of it is a real Greek Tragedy, you know? achilles has a Greek Tragedy because the love of his life dies (and is striken by grief, you’ve all read song of achilles), narcissus has a Greek Tragedy because he’s his own undoing, but theseus doesn’t get that.

which: makes me wonder whether it was intentional. techno, the character, makes theseus’ tragedy seem all the more important, all the more apparent, when in reality theseus didn’t really have anything to his name. is he, in a weird meta kind of way, creating a dialogue about how c!tommy really doesn’t have Tragedies?

his life is tragic for sure, but what c!tommy is focused on is the discs. something that ultimately doesn’t matter—and what people focus on is what ends up getting told in stories.

and despite the fact that theseus literally does scummy stuff like try to kidnap persephone (and in some interpretations try to force himself on her), but his heroics (his killing of the minotaur) overshadow everything else. so the scummy stuff tommy does—trying to coerce his friend into not punishing him, separating from the smp to sell drugs—all gets overshadowed by tommy’s crippling main character syndrome.

but i’m probably just reading too deeply into an improv-induced slip-up.

EDIT: an anon has informed me that theseus does in fact get exiled, but not for no reason - he gets exiled because he kidnapped women and started a war. i answered their ask... so if you want elaboration on my thoughts on that go read that one :)

[lethia-not-athena]

OOC:I'm back ( •╰V╯• ) ready?

*A figure approaches. Wearing a black hood and cape. the top half of their face obscured by a plain black mask thats almost avian. What seemed to be a white feather scarf was wrapped around their neck.*

*whispering* Lethia?...

Lethia turned around, slowly grabbing an extra pocket knife. She'd gone through quite a bit today, she needed to get her mind off things

"Hey! Ready?"

She wasn't wearing much, a tight shirt with a faux turtleneck and some tight shorts, perfect for movement.

[katerinaaqu]

That is a very good headanon! I actually did imagine him smile or laugh but I wanted also to hint that plenty of them were kinda forced upon him or not really from deeply from his heart and most of them happen with people that he feels closer to like Odysseus with whom he feels the connection with their torments and responsibilities (somehow connecting it to how warmly he speaks on Odysseus when they are talking about him in Sparta or how Menelaus was so depressed to the point of not being able to see the family resemblance between Telemachus and Odysseus even if he knew Odysseus from his youth from the Oath of Tyndareus till the 10 years at war)

I also had the random headcanon, based on how Helen drugs the wine they would drink to protect them from getting too sad or too excited, that Menelaus had a developed heart problem as a combination of both his years and agonies and possibly because he could have been striken by the disease sent by Apollo and all, random stuff again:

I love the way the years seem to have left a mark on Menelaus! How his bright red hair turned fainter with time and his face more tormented and sad but still his lips smiling a bit (in the Odyssey he was still depressed as hell because now he was worrying about the fate of Odysseus which makes him even more of a tragic character given how he too has shipwrecked and suffered ordeals) and I love the white hairs popping up! I had also made Helen notice some of them when she was first released from Troy in my one-shot:

I really like the upper sketch too! How years left a mark in their faces but thank goodness the two of them reconciled in the end and they have each other! I particularly love Menelaus's design! I love his braids and ringlets there! So reminds me of some kouroi statues and all! I love it when people explore more possible hairstyles for ancient Greece apart from the typical ones!

A peaceful life long overdue🌊