#stop blaming these characters

[llamasofchaos]

I just saw a video saying that while op adored Percy and annabeth she couldn't forgive them for ruining so many lives on their quest for a happy ending?????

She was claiming that because they got to be happy they ruined, Rayna and her sisters life, Bianca and Nico's life, screwed over Calypso, and apparently every other character in the books with an unhappy life.

Like next time just say you didn't understand the story instead of trying to justify weird reasons to not like the main characters.

Because it was not Percy or Annabeth's fault that the choice they made to try and survive quests given to them when they were teenagers by the gods were one of the many things that led to bad circumstances for other characters.

Circe was a bad person and just because working for her was okay right then doesn't mean it would have stayed like that. But also it's incredibly stupid to say that Percy and Annabeth ruined the sisters lives when they were 13 and just trying to survive and find grover.

Calypso wasn't Percy's responsibility. He owed her nothing, it was out of kindness and a desire to make things better that he asked that the gods release her from her punishment. He had no idea that the gods would be petty and not tell her she was free. His not going back to get her because he was "so distracted being with Annabeth" isn't a bad thing because once again he didn't owe Calypso anything, he didn't promise her anything. Stop saying that she's an innocent victim because she was on the island for a reason and it is only due to Percy trying to make things better that Leo could swoop in like a knight in shining armor.

Nico and Bianca. This is probably going to make a lot of Nico fans mad but Percy held no responsibility for what happened to Bianca or Nico . Yes he promised to try and protect her however she made a choice that made it impossible for anyone to help her. She knew that and she still made that choice, something Nico does throughout the main and sequel series. Percy once again owes Nico nothing, he did his best to save Bianca, he tried to help Nico even when he wanted Percy dead, he doesn't owe him anything even if Nico liked him.

Stop blaming Annabeth and Percy for every bad thing that has happened in the Percy Jackson universe. Percy and Annabeth did not go on quests for years, fight two wars and suffer trying to save the world while losing friends and family just for you to say that other characters had it worse and it's their fault.

[s0fter-sin]

soap's whole deal being sniper and demolitions gets me going bc on the surface they sound so different but when you get into it, you realise it's bc soap's smart

sniping is all math; calculating distances and wind interference and bullet drop. something i think people overlook is he was listed as a sniper first so it can be implied that he's better at it than demolitions. he does more sniping in both campaigns than demolitions work; in capture or kill, ghost specifically calls on him to take down the aq snipers

and demolitions is math with a hit of chemistry; knowing what mixes with what, knowing how much to use, recognising environmental factors and adjusting accordingly. it's not just about the boom; so much work goes into contained/ planned explosions. especially when having enough power for a breacher charge and not bringing down the whole building is the difference between mission success and failure

the chemical bombs he makes in alone can't just be any old cleaners, they have to have the correct reaction to each other; he just knew off the top of his head what would mix with what to create what reaction. he would also potentially have to recognise them by sight/smell bc they would’ve been written in spanish

soap would also have to know architecture; recognising structural integrity and weak points so he knows exactly where to plant a charge to bring it down and how it'll come down

he has an incredible soldier's mind people just forget that bc he's sociable which itself is a skill

we know he tends to buck against orders he doesn't agree with like when he pushes back against ghost in capture or kill and shepherd when he tells them to release hassan

he gets closer to people and sees if he can trust them and that's when he follows them without question. really think about how he talks to alejandro and rudy; he asks about their home and alejandro's family and rudy's relationship with him. those aren't questions you ask a stranger after a few hours of knowing them. that's not even touching on his relationship with ghost

he also deliberately brings people of higher ranks down to his level; talking informally with ghost and giving him a shoulder punch, addressing alejandro (a colonel!!) by his first name and rudy by his nickname despite literally just meeting them. he personalises all of them and it’s in direct opposition to the reason most characters do that; it’s not due to insubordination or lack of respect, the more he respects and trusts someone, the more casual he is with them

he digs into people; he wants to know what makes them tick and that determines if he can one, trust them and two, follow their orders. once he decides that, he's the ultimate soldier; he bleeds loyalty which makes him vicious when that loyalty is taken for granted

he isn't naive or bubbly or insecure; he's an incredibly smart and aware soldier. he's aggressive and bloodthirsty and loyal and intuitive and i love him so much

[lookstairs]

I think one of the most realistic parts about Baby Reindeer (2024) is how much Donny downplays the abuse he faces

I know everyone wants to hate on him for being “stupid” and blame him for everything that happened because yes from an outsiders perspective he made questionable choices but isn’t that what HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE DO?

I know so many people who’ve “played nice” or tried to downplay abusive behavior. You try and tell yourself “It wasn’t that bad”, or that it was just some crazy experience that should be forgotten. It seems so much easier to stay silent and just try to move on.

You don’t wanna start problems

You don’t wanna be mean

You don’t wanna be the bad guy

[sserrafeim]

“Rhysand has been high lord for centuries and he’s done nothing for the Illyrian women” um… no? That’s the exact opposite of what’s written in the books. Rhysand’s father was an asshole who didn’t care to do anything no matter how much his mate begged him to. Rhysand is the one who’s actually trying to stop wing-clipping and giving the females the opportunity to train. The Illyrians took advantage of his 50-year imprisonment and the absence of Azriel and Cassian from the war camps and started treating the females even more harshly. He literally says that he, Cassian and Azriel hunted down and killed many of them when he returned. Of course he can’t do anything instantaneously, and change always takes time, because the Illyrians are a big part of the NC army and war was coming. He couldn’t risk half his army in a time like this. It would only make things worse for the entirety of the Night Court, not just Illyria. Now that the war with Hybern is over Cassian is in the war camps trying to handle the situation—who do you think gave him the order to do that?

I can assure you, the Illyrian women (at least most of them) think more highly of Rhys than any previous high lord.

I’m surprised by this fandom every day—you’re reading books that are targeted towards 16+ year-olds, I assume you have basic reading comprehension skills but I suppose that’s too much to ask for these days…

[atlasdoe]

IF I HAVE TO SEE ONE MORE "DUMBLEDORE WHERE HAVE YOU BURRIED ALL YOUR CHILDREN" TIKTOK WITH A BUNCH OF CHARACTERS WHOS DEATHS DUMBLEDORE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH I AM GOING TO LOSE MY GODDAMN MIND

[areuils]

Twitter mdzs fandom is so vengeful for no reason. Why is the fandom about a story about not holding resentments because it ruins your life so resentful when the characters aren’t.

In other news why does all the mdzs fans I keep stumbling upon on twitter wanting lan xichen to die and want lan wangji to hate him

[blanceyblance]

Can we guys stop blaming Lance for dating Allura?

I feel like in the klance fandom there is this feeling of Keith going 'How dare he go for the woman who never appreciated him?' and now Lance has to suffer for the terrible wrong of not choosing Keith first, like, 'how dare he?!' to be honest it feels very 'nice-guy' mentality.

Also, while I don't personally ship them in canon, Allura and Lance were friends? Allura DID have fondness for him, I would even say Allura ended up being closer to Lance than Pidge was.

Lance was her emotional support and she grew to trust him and feel like he was 'safe'. I think they worked better as friends but there was genuine affection between them.

And Keith was also, an ass at times to him, there where moments when Keith just pushed Lance away or was mean to him with no provocation.

Stop blaming Lance and acting like he betrayed Keith somehow. He was done dirty enough

[chaos-of-the-abyss]

i do not buy the idea that celegorm is less reprehensible for what he tried to do to luthien because there's something special about her (her maia blood, her extreme beauty, her front-and-center role as a hero in the narrative, whatever) that enchanted him. first of all, victim-blaming. why are you going and making up an idea that has zero basis in the canon narrative purely to make the point "hey, maybe this guy that tried to coerce an unwilling woman to marry him isn't as bad as we think. maybe there was something about her that made him do it." second of all, victim-blaming. whatever the reason celegorm's pursuit of luthien was, he had a role in coming up with, and tried to execute, a plan that involved assaulting her and forcing her into a marriage with him against her will. he chose to do that, knowing full well the weight of it. even if there was something more supernatural going on in his attraction to luthien (which, again, has no canon basis), nothing and nobody forced him to take the actions that he did

[gremblim]

Now hear me out

[autisticrosewilson]

So do you guys actually think that Jason's entire story, relationship to the others, and philosophy amounts to him being a rebellious teen who wants his dad's attention? Like are you 100% serious? I thought you were joking about that but too many of you are saying it with your whole chest.

And what the fuck is this "Bruce antagonizing Jason is fanon!" Shit I've been seeing? You guys are aware that a parent can love their kid and still be a shit parent right? I know you guys don't want to fathom the thought that maybe your blorbo might also occasionally have to face responsibility for consistently endangering children but let's not start being delusional now.

Bruce does love his kids, that doesn't mean that he hasn't hurt them. And I'd also argue that for the most part he feels in the right for it, and he's said multiple times that he believes it's for their own good, so you can't even argue that he's sorry about it. It's okay for you guys to admit that your PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of the character wouldn't do that but don't sit here and pretend that it's not a facet of the source.

[dykedvonte]

I think it’s so ironic that the Pony Express escapes a lot if not all blame in discussion. I can’t even say I am excused from it but it’s just how hard people circle back to the characters alone without considering the environment they were made to be in.

Why would they design a ship where only two of the rooms lock? Not the bathroom? Not the sleeping quarters? We assume that all the companies in the universe are this shallow and careless to their workers but we explicitly know the Pony Express in extra vile. They are fed processed slop pack they can’t even really cook and the ration of those pack is meager at best. They hired and made people with a plethora of conflicting demeanors and beliefs work together on a mission where cohesion is important if not an outright necessity and punish them for not being happy about it. There’s no social protocols, not chain of command other than Captain’s word/choice and the only way to enforce that is with a literal firearm. They don’t allow them to celebrate freely and even took away leisure activities that would make them less stir crazy. They are only allowed a few hours of sleep despite their being no other real responsibilities or work on the ship, no matter the position or its importance. With any crew, with any level of synergy, this was a powder keg waiting for a spark.

I’m not saying characters that made mistakes didn’t make huge ones, but I think part of the horror is that at least for some (this is targeting Jimathan) those mistakes are partly made by a force of the hand. There’s a running theme of lack of choice and being forced into something and the very nature of how The Pony Express expected them to function plays a big part.

[blissfulrain12]

Okay, I'm just gonna say it. Saying "This abuse victim is partially responsible for their abuser attempting to murder them" is wild! And saying "Because this abuse victim failed another abuse victim they are just as bad as the murdering rapist that physically, emotionally, verbally, medically abused them, canabalized them, and forced them to eat their own leg." is even wilder! Like ya'll know this is just victim blaming, right?

Also by this logic Anya is also as bad as Jimmy! She enabled Curly's physical and medical abuse. Also unlike Curly it wasn't through inaction. Anya asked her rapist to provide medical care to her nonverbal patient and then left them in a room alone together. There were two other guys she could have asked instead. The rapist had also spoken to her about wanting to kill the patient and she had witnessed at least one instance of verbal abuse from the rapist to the patient(Curly's birthday party). And yet she still chose to ask her rapist to perform medical care multiple times.

Also it should be noted that taking needed medication from patients for personal use is a form of medical abuse. So yeah when Anya took all of the remaining pain meds she might have committed medical abuse against Curly. So if Curly is just as bad as Jimmy there's no way that doesn't apply to Anya too!

Seriously the fandom has fallen into the "good/bad victim" dichotomy which is extremely damaging to victims. Anya has been labeled the "good" victim so her flaws are diminished, ignored, or justified. Like I've seen people argue that Anya enabled Jimmy to abuse Curly as revenge and acted like that was a good thing instead of Anya being as bad as Jimmy.

Meanwhile Curly has been labeled the "bad victim". This means Curly is denied victimhood. Instead Curly gets victim blamed (Curly's at fault for his own attempted murder) and his abuse is called "deserved", "karma", and "punishment". His abuse is mostly talked about as metaphor for other people (seriously guys the unborn baby 🤨). When Curly's abuse is talked about there's always a disclaimer: "not to defend Curly", "this doesn't excuse Curly", "CURLY IS NOT INNOCENT" which might as well be saying "this victim is a bad victim/not a worthy victim". Curly's also been equated with his abuser sometimes even being said to be worse than the abusive rapist that ate Curly's leg. Also I'm pretty sure Curly's "bad victim" status is also contributing to the ablism around Curly's disability.

In conclusion stop victim blaming Curly please.

[ganondoodle]

honestly cant stand how technically important demise is and yet how he doesnt actually matter or exist in peoples minds as a character, the only thing that matters is his stupid "curse" thing and its the only thing why he will ever be brought up, theres never really any thought around him that isnt related to the "cuuuurse", otherwise he basically doesnt exist in the fandom

to some extent its understandable given how little he actually is in the game but it still makes me sad and a little frustrated imo he shouldnt be treated like soemthing so unimportant given hes involved with the literal start of the timeline

and worst of all is how he and ganondorf make each other worse, like their link is completely deniable yet its like more often than not treated like gan is to demise what zelda is to hylia, but even that isnt used interestingly no, its only ever to write off gan as "well, hes just a demon, demons need no motives or character, they are jsut evil" WHICH IS SO BORING, and people will be HAPPY about that??? they go yippie gan is jsut an evil demon yaaay like the fuck???

it goes around to that other post i made about how not wanting a better written gan is wanting everything to be worse, bc a better written villain is a better written everything and there is only winning in that

demise specifically is just a sore spot for me since hes my blorbo, and the way even gan fans hate him for introducing the "cuuurse" thing just makes it hurt doubly, i get why, still its just so .. man i wish BOTH gan and demise were allowed to be characters, at least gan was a character at some point, demise has nothing ;__;

[nattikay]

Spider is not Jake and Neytiri’s kid and they had no obligation to act as his surrogate parents

[wesavegotham]

These fanon Tim Drake takes/fanfictions that paint him as the ultimate victim during the Morrrison era were always annoying, but if you're looking for a character to write fix it fanfictions about because they got abandoned by their family when they went through a lot of losses and lost themselves in the process, ran away from everything and only had the batfamily try to bring them back home ages after they had already run away and only after first blaming the kid and then not prioritizing bringing that kid back, then Damian from 2018 to 2020 is right there?

Where are my 1000+ fanfictions about that?

[atlasdoe]

"Dumbledore raised an army of children TWICE"

y'all do know that WE were the ones who made the order of the phoenix so young right??? The Marauders and Lily were the only ones with cannon ages

AND YOU HAD TO BE AN ADULT TO JOIN!!!!

we can't make all of the characters young and then hate Dumbledore for making an "army out of children"

for all we know marlene and dorcas could've been elderly women! we were the ones who hc them to be the marauders age

and again. THE MARAUDERS WERW ADULTS WHEN THEY JOINED