#stfu you edgy

[nyxi-pixie]

ive talked abt this before but the age of a fandom can usually explain about 90% of fandom issues. character analysis is shit? yeah they havent finished their eng lit classes. a lot of the fic carelessly explores themes that are important to canon? they dont actually understand those yet. a lot of biases showing in how people interpret and enjoy the media? theyre still living with their parents and a majority are being exposed to Nuanced World Views for the first time through the internet.

largely, these are people with their training wheels still firmly on. theyve just decided to learn cycling on a bmx track instead of an empty carpark.

[redpandamemes]

After way too long and a lot of frustration on my end, I finally did the funny "I think we're gonna have to kill this guy" meme with the blorbos

[discocandles]

i'm of the opinion you can't diss megan thee stallion in a way that matters

[comas-are-for-sleeping]

so close to going through the helluva universe tag on tumblr and reblogging everything 🫣

[0-rai]

CRRROOOWWWLLEEEYYYY

.... I'm destroyed, good job Neil.

It's a quick one

He's so me (I have curly red hair and trust issues unless it's my few friends)

Only the real ones read the hashtags...

[lord-radish]

The Snyderverse version of Superman making him a symbol of post-9/11 trauma and nationalistic xenophobia probably did the most harm to the character since The Dark Knight Returns' characterisation of him as a cynical lapdog for an oppressive government.

"Superman is just One Bad Day away from being a Nazi! Mary Sue Superman is boring, Injustice/Man of Steel/TDKR Superman is a more nuanced take on the character" actually Superman is kind and strong and believes in humanity, even if he stumbles and makes mistakes sometimes, and I don't buy that he'd become a global dictator or a living tungsten rod for some stupid dudebro angst reason. Die mad about it.

[balasha7sanbardo]

im not even trying to stan anyone when I say this but it genuinely bothers me that people shit on kpop or “idols” for literally the dumbest reasons

my thing is what exactly are you hating on? that they wear makeup (especially for men/male-passing folks) and are sometimes cutesy and make pop music…? there’s also this weird association that kpop is mostly for the girlies or “fem” men (we all know what that means and lets not forget how Southeast Asian men are perceived..) and that their music doesn’t go hard or some bs lol it almost seems like anything fem related is hated on - cause only girls or gay men should like boybands and pop music 🥴

I mean genuinely I’ve heard some of the best music made by these artists (in almost all genres) and yes, I’ve also heard some crappy music too but isn’t that the case for almost all artists..?? idk it just grosses me out when I see the way people react when I say I listen to a kpop band that they know nothing about…just from their reactions you can already see that they think I’m some sort of insane fanatic or that I’m THAT kind of person (which…what is exactly the problem with liking boy bands and pop music?)..like bro idgaf what you like vs dislike but also lets maybe consider why you have such a shit perception on something you either have never heard of, haven’t listened to, or just straight up labeled collectively as trash..

[jellophoid]

oh,,,, hes one of those people

[garbagem4n]

“Not listening to pop music doesn’t make you edgy” music is a preference if someone doesn’t want to listen to pop then they don’t need to.

[doodler16]

LONGGG ask ahead.

I feel like Viv just doesn’t understand sex outside of funny haha bdsm ‘daddy’ jokes.

Especially the Helluva short where Blitzo says he’s a top and therefore is bad at oral. What?????? That’s not how it works???? I wish I had more examples but I think the general vibe of sex only being used for power dynamics is present in both HH and HB. Blitzo’s sa threat to moxie (and millie) in an early episode, the way Stolas cheating with a lower class imp is first used to show that he’s a bad guy and that blitzo is desperate BUT this is later almost retconned to make it into a cutesy toxic yaoi love story and cheating is suddenly okay. Fizz and Ozzie’s relationship I just can’t take seriously when it’s reduced Fizz into a sub gay twink stereotype (‘pwease big daddy?’ Ughhh stfu). Side tangent but I was so happy to see representation of a disabled person with agency and success, until he started being babied by the narrative and acts totally different especially in the Mammon episode. They make Mammon look bad for sexualising Fizz and bodyshaming, which is a good message about toxic bosses, until you remember that Blitzo has done that and much worse to his employees.

This is just as bad in HH, the Angel and Val thing is just disturbing. Like I can forgive slightly bad writing but hiring a known proshipper with an SA kink to storyboard the scenes of a SA VICTIM BEING ABUSED is fucking insane. Viv doesn’t care about representation, kink isn’t just about being edgy and dangerous during sex and it feels like she just doesn’t understand the history behind it. Making the sin of lust himself say he cares about consent just to make your character look good (because she suddenly decided she wanted him to be a dom sugar daddy instead of an actual bad guy), but then you also approve of showing SA in your shows as a joke, especially when it’s used against characters that are seen as more pathetic (moxxie and sir pentious). Vivz gets off to negative power dynamics and seems to fetishise abuse of power. Pretty obvious considering the disturbing SA scene playlist she had on her old YouTube channel.

Also Stolas is like a textbook r*pist imo, the self pitying and ‘well I WANTED it to be consensual!’ And whatever. When you’re in that position of power you have a responsibility to not abuse that. At the start of the show it was fine because they weren’t trying to make a moral message or paint him as a good guy, but clearly they had to retcon so much just to make it work when they wanted him to be a innocent twink. The retcon to make Stolas and Blitzo childhood friends, making Stolas a desperate poor baby who doesn’t know how to communicate and he actually ALWAYS totally loved Blitzo. Sure. But really if you just watch the show without any background knowledge, Stolas looks like a creep. And Viv had to justify everything Stolas did while making Blitzo, the victim in this dynamic, into the bad guy who totally also loves Stolas (despite clearly not being into him until they wanted to change things in the end of s1) and he’s in the wrong for disliking the upper class demons who mistreat them.

Viv seems to see kink as consensual abuse in a way. She doesn’t understand how sexual dynamics work. And she fetishises toxic relationships without thinking critically of what she’s really saying. Double standards between SA jokes and SA storylines. I’d even say that making Val a character people can get attached to and buy merch of is kinda icky, because yes irl r*pists can be charming to others, but clearly Viv wasn’t saying anything interesting with his character’s portrayal. She just wanted someone to abuse her favourite OC and make sure her close proship friends can get off to it while disregarding how victims may respond to it.

It’s a sort of conservative way of seeing kink culture and queer culture in general imo. The p*rn industry has already normalised fetishising abusive power dynamics but against women much more often. Viv is just doing that but between two male characters instead. Also did Chaggie get any sort of sexual stuff idk. I don’t think so, I can hardly remember any f/f relationships in her work.

Sorry for the long rant I just have so many thoughts on it ahh and I wanna see if people agree and have more in depth talk on it. Viv stop letting your p*rn addiction ruin your show 💔

Vivziepop shouldn’t be surprised when people meme on her when it comes to her lame sex and swearing jokes 😭 There is a lot of it that you can make a complication video of it.

Short 2 “Mission Antarctica” was so dumb especially with Blitzø and the crystal. “I’ve never been good at this shit.” That such a lie, when has Blitzø sucked at lust? Especially when the show goes out of its way to establish that Blitzø not only scored a literally pop star, a goetia prince, and hundreds of hellborn who were at Verosika’s party complaining about him.

Yeah, you are right Anon. Thats not how it works, just because you are a top doesn’t mean you are automatically bad at oral sex and doesn’t help how they establish Blitzø to be this attractive person who is able to get most people or use his charms as an advantage in a tough situation. I know this scene is a joke but Blitzø easily could’ve accessed the crystal.

The fact that Blitzø gets away with sexual assaulting and threatening Moxxie and by extension Millie is insane. He never actually apologizes to them and proceeds to call out Mammon for doing similar things he did to Moxxie and Millie. And it never crosses Blitzø’s mind or forces him to realize that he’s a hypocrite too.

Don’t get me wrong that scene where Blitzø defends Fizzarolli from Mammon multiple times is sweet but at the same time why should I take it seriously when it used as a punchline for a character like Moxxie. It’s the same issue with Angel Dust and Sir Pentious.

Vivziepop wants us, the audience to emphasize and sympathize with Angel Dust getting raped and abused by Valentino. But in the same breath makes a joke about Sir Pentious getting raped off screen and some fans making excuses that “it’s Hell.” At this point, why should I care about Angel Dust’s situation if some people are willing to let a scene like this slide.

I mean Vivziepop was arguing with a bunch of SA survivors on Instagram Threads about episode 4 of Hazbin Hotel (before the full episode got out). 😂

Fizzarolli and Ozzie are something to say the least. Their relationship can be summed up by “Sugar daddy Ozzie dominates wittle Fizzarolli.” They had a joke at the end of Mammon special episode that Ozzie tops Fizzarolli, that’s how un-subtle they are about their dynamic.

I like Fizzarolli and somewhat latch on to him and relate to him regarding his disability but the man (who is in his 30s) is babied and coddled especially by Ozzie that I unironically miss his edge and fierceness from season 1. That Stoliz childhood plot was so useless, then meeting as a children made the Stoliz ship unironically look worse and was useless. You aren’t slick Vivziepop, I see you with the children Stoliz merch, trying to make it look like they were friends when in reality they aren’t. 😂

No Anon, Chaggie didn’t have any sexual content in season 1 compared to ships like Ozzie/Fizz and Stoliz. Even Millie/Moxxie and Valentino/Vox had more “spicy” content than Chaggie. The closest thing Chaggie did was have a soft kiss on the lips in episode 8. Apparently, in season 2 something “fun” and “spicy” will happen between Chaggie.

[skyartworkzzz]

OMFG YOURE SO BIG BRAINED THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

Yes yes edgy edgy edgy edgy edgy just as the fandom gods intended

I like to think of the Goat being from an Underfell kind of version of COTL and thats my essay

[shinypuppytoy621]

(NSFW WARNING)

cishet male doms compared to trans doms are like night and day

like some straight guy will bark orders and insults and sound like the joker trying to be edgy. “Obey daddy like a good slave” man stfu no one asked! but if a cute girl/guy/enby tells me to sit I’m there in an instant “you’ll obey your owner like a good girl, won’t you” I’d kill on the spot if they ordered me to istg

[redpandamemes]

Urgent

I have no idea how else to even start or explain this, I'm sorry in advance

After trying for weeks to rehome a cat of ours, my family has given her an ultimatum of 24 hours before making her homeless. If anyone would like a free female cat then please DM me with serious inquiries only.

We're willing to offer some spare food, some food/water dishes, and possibly a litter box

She's a wonderful cat, very shy but will be your best friend, and very talkative!

[vera-yaps]

Something that makes ZD so realistic

Is how fuckin CRINGY they are,

like i’ve talked with my moots about this but i’m sleep deprived, off my antidepressants, and need to go to my 9-5 job at the laundromat in like less than an hr so let me have my slivers of serotonin

But like it came from me rewatching zd and realizing how much…secondhand embarrassment i got from some of cal’s tapes

like dont gmw. theyre chilling as all hell. i dont think i’m feeling anything not supposed to be feeling here. but like…They really are just edgy teenagers, like “just sticks in the mud🤓☝️” thats some shit an edgy 17 year old would say to make himself look big and bad when he really justheard that on the last action movie he heard. like stfu nerd and go do ur algebra homework, its due tomorrow

Forget the final scene for a second here. Forget the fact that they were planning to do something horrible.

Cal was probably so embarrassed that he was 17 and still needing to get braces off

he probably for years begged his mom and orthodontist to get them off early, the reality was they aere just too crooked for them to do anything yet, much to cal’s dismay

of course, as may 1st approached he gave less and less of a fuck. i mean, his teeth were gonna be blown through his cranium. what does it matter if they had wires on them or not.

andre probably hated his voice cracks. theyre not terribly noticable bc hes pretty grown into himself at 17/18, but he still has that happen on top of that damn acne problem. chris dealt with acne all through middle and high school. he joked college seemed to have cleared his skin magically. must be genetic, andre thought.

they tease each other, as teenage boys (also heavily repressed) often do. when theyre not fantasizing about putting buckshots in their peers, they play mortal kombat and curse at each other for beating him, cal is surprisingly alot more quick at his movements, whilst andre thinks his button mash combos through more. of course MK doesnt seem to care much about that.

Cal’s gotten a few confessions here and there. he wasn’t bad looking. he knew that. andre’s felt some girls looking at him before, but he was alot less approachable than cal. the closest thing he got to an outright confession was a letter in the 1995-96 school year, Melanie something - or - other

cal teases him about it at the bonfire, andre eventually is able to seize the note and to not say her name

he’s able to respect the privacy of strangers, but he wants to put ends to human life.

Andre wants to respect two guys doing interpretive poetry when Cal was rudely interrupting them and insulting them but didnt hesitate in the slightest to put bullets into his peers.

Bullets do a fuckton of damage. like what you see in ZD is disturbing but (thankfully) coccio made the artistic choice to not make it very gory all things considered. but bullets do alot more than just insta kill people and make them fall.

they shatter bones, damage organs, cause severe bleeding, cause differences in limb length long after recovery, its genuinely carnage and disturbing

and they talked about crushes, girls, family, birthdays, poetry open mics as if they weren’t planning to inflict that damage and more.

whats more eerie is how they talk about it. like they talk so casually about it as if theyre talking about what theyre doing next weekend and not destroying lives.

the same awkward teenagers i described committed mass murder that we see unfold play-by-play. and thats a big part in why zero day is so fucking terrifying.

[yourtwistedlies]

❝ women’s hearts are lethal weapons ❞

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1 Corinthians 16:14

with love,

valerie

[raventrigonsdaughter]

Im already seeing some people whine about how the show looks (it looks great stfu) and trying to gate keep lore... FALLOUT LORE, MIND YOU... Also to the ones saying it looks like it will have too much comedy/wont be gritty enough, bitches get off ao3 fallout has always been goofy as much as it was edgy

Like, the show didnt even come out yet, lets not do that shit please