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It's ok to call out your faves when you think they're in the wrong. Don't let anyone make you feel like less of a fan for doing so. Criticism does not equal hate.
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My brain would not shut the fuck up for 2 seconds, so to satisfy it, have a compilation of out of context questions and shitty takes:
1. So I sold my soul to Alastor for jambalaya (would've done it for free frfr), what do i call you now? Sir? Boss? Daddy? AHEM, what do your souls even do? Will I just join the hotel? Cuz I'm fine with that.
2. Can Angel shoot webs out of his ass? (I don't know where the fuck this came from)
3. Husk, do you blink slowly at the people you trust and love? Cuz cats do that.
4. Charlie do you bleat like a goat?
5. Does Alastor taste like venison? Experience rut? Also, can you make different calls besides squeaks and bleats? Do your horns get stuck on shit? Ever broke Vox's screen with a 'love tap'? Also did you know there's a ship with you and your mom? That shit is vile
6. Do y'all know Lilith is just in heaven, drinking a slushie on the beach while y'all are out here suffering?
7. Luci what's your opinion on the other sins? (All of em)
8. Vox what your best 'Alastor got drunk and cuddly story?' Also did you ever convinced him to wear a dress? (I'm not talking about the bets, talking about you actually managing to convince him yourself, no strings attached, to wear a dress.) Is your dick a cable? Do you eat batteries? And are you aware of how creative your simps are? (ESPECIALLY ON PINTEREST ISTG PEOPLE ARE NOT WELL)
9. Vaggie, did you ever watch Encanto and notice that Mirabel sounds like you? Also, you're Spanish, right? (Yay, like me, matchy), what's your fave dish?
10. Val what was the fucking point of trying to drug Vox? Like? Even if it worked, Alastor would've fucked you up so hard your dick would come out of your mouth. Did you just think he'd be mad at Vox for getting fucking raped? Idiot.
11. Husk, did you ever perform in front of a crowd? Because if I'd have your voice, I'd never shut up.
12. Niffty, have you heard of Vox's employee, Baxter? He's like Sir. Pentios but a way better bad boy, about your height, and a mad scientist. Bet he could make experiments on your bugs and find new ways to kill em or sum.
13. Velvette, my fucking queen, on my knees for you, ugh, it's your voice or your personality, idk what, but I want it. Give it. I love u queen. What's your fave dress you ever made?
14. If Vox would be a princess, he'd be a greedy princess. I scouted the internet for anything, and after being reminded that El Dorado exists, I think the best I found is Chel. She's smart and greedy, and wants more gold. That's the best i found. Or just fuck it and you're Ariel but a shark. Now I have to draw that.
15. Angel did you discover you were gay back when you were alive or in hell? Also, how was it Italy? I plan on visiting and maybe going to a concert at it, cause the language sounds so fucking pretty and idk how to describe it, just beauty.
16. So, Alastor, is Niffty in a contract with you afterall, or did she just exist in your house one day and you just adopted her? Also, Charlie can now technically call you dad, cause your her mom's boyfriend, so maybe stepdad? Second dad?
17. Charlie girl, you did it! You fixed your mommy issues with your dad, your new mom, and your mom's boyfriend.
18. Hazbing hotel should be renamed issues hotel, cuz we got Daddy issues (Angel, Alastor, Husk I think?), Mommy issues (Charlie ((she kinda solved them)), Pentios maybe), parent issues (Husk ig, Vox, maybe velvette? Cuz if she was just 19 ((young kween, we stan u girl)), I imagine her parents sucked ((boo, tomato tomato))), uh, just straight up issues (Luci, Vaggie, I recon Val had a shitty life) and a shitton of trauma.
19. Alastor did you wear cattle shoes back when you were alive? Also, how is New Orleans? I think it looks really pretty and has a beautiful beautiful culture. Maybe if I have money, I'll visit! See where my fave serial killer murderer came from. Also, is French hard to learn? I'd like to give it a shot. Last thing: drop that lash care girllll, why do men have such pretty lashes? Scratch that, why are men like you so pretty?
20. Be gay, do crime, eat boys up, idk, peace ✌️
—a very sleep deprived bird anon
1. So I sold my soul to Alastor for jambalaya (would've done it for free frfr), what do i call you now? Sir? Boss? Daddy? AHEM, what do your souls even do? Will I just join the hotel? Cuz I'm fine with that.
"Boss will do just fine. And you can do as you please - I'm not like some, who require their souls to tirelessly work for them. I'll call on you if I have need."
2. Can Angel shoot webs out of his ass? (I don't know where the fuck this came from)
"Uh, no."
3. Husk, do you blink slowly at the people you trust and love? Cuz cats do that.
"Not that I'm aware of."
4. Charlie do you bleat like a goat?
"Um, no, I'm... not a goat."
5. Does Alastor taste like venison? Experience rut? Also, can you make different calls besides squeaks and bleats? Do your horns get stuck on shit? Ever broke Vox's screen with a 'love tap'? Also did you know there's a ship with you and your mom? That shit is vile
"I suppose my flavor profile might bear some similarities to venison, but I imagine I do taste rather different. I don't experience rut, I can make different sounds, and no, my horns do not get stuck - I can shrink them easily. I have broken Vox's screen while fighting and when he's attempted to wake me up, but I wouldn't qualify either as a 'love tap'. And I do wish you hadn't shared that."
6. Do y'all know Lilith is just in heaven, drinking a slushie on the beach while y'all are out here suffering?
"Yeah, you're not the first person to share that. But Charlie doesn't know, and I'm keeping it that way until I get more answers. It would crush her."
7. Luci what's your opinion on the other sins? (All of em)
"They're like family, and like most families, I get along with some more than others. Ozzie is definitely who I'm closest to, Bee's always fun, Lev's cool, Belphi's great, Satan and I butt heads sometimes, and Mammon... can admittedly get on my nerves."
8. Vox what your best 'Alastor got drunk and cuddly story?' Also did you ever convinced him to wear a dress? (I'm not talking about the bets, talking about you actually managing to convince him yourself, no strings attached, to wear a dress.) Is your dick a cable? Do you eat batteries? And are you aware of how creative your simps are? (ESPECIALLY ON PINTEREST ISTG PEOPLE ARE NOT WELL)
"I'm not telling you a whole story when you asked so fucking much. No, I haven't gotten him in a dress outside of the bet. Do you have any idea how much he hates deviating from his look? And no, my dick is not a cable, and I don't eat batteries. But yes, of course my simps are very creative. Right, Mel?"
9. Vaggie, did you ever watch Encanto and notice that Mirabel sounds like you? Also, you're Spanish, right? (Yay, like me, matchy), what's your fave dish?
"I haven't noticed that, and um... as I've mentioned before, I don't really have any memories before joining Adam's army. I used to think I was Heavenborn, but I get these flashes, and... I think I might be from Central America? I don't know. I do love tamales, I know that."
10. Val what was the fucking point of trying to drug Vox? Like? Even if it worked, Alastor would've fucked you up so hard your dick would come out of your mouth. Did you just think he'd be mad at Vox for getting fucking raped? Idiot.
"They weren't even together yet. Alastor wouldn't have even known anything happened, if you idiotas hadn't gotten involved. Voxxy just would have chosen to stay with me, and their little budding romance would have fizzled out as it should have."
11. Husk, did you ever perform in front of a crowd? Because if I'd have your voice, I'd never shut up.
"I mean, I used to be a stage magician, so... yeah."
12. Niffty, have you heard of Vox's employee, Baxter? He's like Sir. Pentios but a way better bad boy, about your height, and a mad scientist. Bet he could make experiments on your bugs and find new ways to kill em or sum.
"Ooooh, Vox, I want to meet Baxter!"
13. Velvette, my fucking queen, on my knees for you, ugh, it's your voice or your personality, idk what, but I want it. Give it. I love u queen. What's your fave dress you ever made?
"Everything I make is the best - how the fuck can I pick one favorite?"
14. If Vox would be a princess, he'd be a greedy princess. I scouted the internet for anything, and after being reminded that El Dorado exists, I think the best I found is Chel. She's smart and greedy, and wants more gold. That's the best i found. Or just fuck it and you're Ariel but a shark. Now I have to draw that.
"Haven't seen it, so I'll take your word for it."
15. Angel did you discover you were gay back when you were alive or in hell? Also, how was it Italy? I plan on visiting and maybe going to a concert at it, cause the language sounds so fucking pretty and idk how to describe it, just beauty.
"When I was alive, and uh... yeah, my family's Italian, but I'm from New York. Lived there my whole life. Neva' been to Italy."
16. So, Alastor, is Niffty in a contract with you afterall, or did she just exist in your house one day and you just adopted her? Also, Charlie can now technically call you dad, cause your her mom's boyfriend, so maybe stepdad? Second dad?
"Niffty is my friend - of course I don't own her soul! And I was already a father-figure to Charlie, but I never seriously meant that she should call me dad."
17. Charlie girl, you did it! You fixed your mommy issues with your dad, your new mom, and your mom's boyfriend.
"Uh... I don't think that's how that works..."
18. Hazbing hotel should be renamed issues hotel, cuz we got Daddy issues (Angel, Alastor, Husk I think?), Mommy issues (Charlie ((she kinda solved them)), Pentios maybe), parent issues (Husk ig, Vox, maybe velvette? Cuz if she was just 19 ((young kween, we stan u girl)), I imagine her parents sucked ((boo, tomato tomato))), uh, just straight up issues (Luci, Vaggie, I recon Val had a shitty life) and a shitton of trauma.
"Fuck off, my dad was awesome."
"And for the last time, I don't have 'daddy issues'. My mother did just fine on her own."
19. Alastor did you wear cattle shoes back when you were alive? Also, how is New Orleans? I think it looks really pretty and has a beautiful beautiful culture. Maybe if I have money, I'll visit! See where my fave serial killer murderer came from. Also, is French hard to learn? I'd like to give it a shot. Last thing: drop that lash care girllll, why do men have such pretty lashes? Scratch that, why are men like you so pretty?
"I did, and New Orleans is indeed beautiful. I strongly recommend a visit! And I must admit, I don't speak fluent French. I can speak some Creole French that I picked up throughout my life. It was never something I studied, though. As for your last question, I'm afraid I don't quite know how to answer that."
Note from Mel: Please only send one or two asks at a time. This was a bit overwhelming, and it makes tagging complicated.
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I see what do mean and I understand the redemption arc is important but I think there's a way to still have him be a dick and do shitty things without having him a would be a would be rapist even if just by implication. It's been a while since I've read the book but doesn't Lillian agree to marry Sebastian at some point and changes her mind? Just have her go through with it after a night with Westcliff. Again I don't really think it would change *that* much. And the Westcliff stuff....there are ways to do that scene without it being dubious consent. I feel like it would be a standard adaptation change. If the rest of the story and characters stuck to the essence of the books what would be more important to me. And tbh this is the type of change that something like Bridgerton could and should have done re Daphne and Simon. But again that's just me. Btw you don't come off as harsh this is just a agree to disagree.
Thank you for reassuring me, lol, I'm never sure about how my particular type of speech comes off online.
It's been a while since I've read it too, but he actually explicitly asks her to marry him after finding out she's slept with Westcliff and offers to take any potential child as his own--and she turns him down, despite the risk of being an unwed mother hanging over her head (I mean, probably not heavily because if she was pregnant with Westcliff's baby, she was going to end up married to Westcliff one way or the other). Because she doesn't like the idea of passing off Westcliff's kid as someone else's, and pretty early on she also realizes that Sebastian is not it for her. She doesn't realize exactly how threatening he is until after he drugs and kidnaps her--but she knows she doesn't want to be with him. And I think she also logistically knows that there's no way marrying Westcliff's BFF is going to be.... an easy thing for her, just because Westcliff is already losing his shit at the mere thought of it.
I mean, Sebastian aside--there's just no way that you can write a Lillian who elopes with Sebastian willingly and then marries Westcliff right after... without completely ruining who she is. She is defiant and she is naive, but she's not *stupid* and she's not cruel. I think not only does Lillian know she and Sebastian wouldn't work--she also knows that it would be cruel to him (I mean, in her mind, as she doesn't know how shitty he is at that point) to marry him and pine after his best friend. She knows it would be cruel to Westcliff to marry his best friend--she's mad him, but she's also in love with him. You very literally don't elope with your lover's best friend if you love them, lol. Even if you're mad. And you especially don't do that if you're as set in who you are as Lillian Bowman. What would motivate Lillian to do that? She has all the money she needs, she isn't excited by a title (and hell, Westcliff has a better one than Sebastian anyway). Sure, she could be pregnant by Westcliff, but why marry some guy she doesn't love to give her baby a dad when the actual dad is right there and also would probably murder Sebastian before he let him raise his kid?
The only way St. Vincent gets there--talked to a Lillian stan friend of mine and I agree with her--without physically forcing Lillian is blackmail. And if Lillian is not going to this marriage willingly, and the marriage doesn't actually stick unless it's consummated (which I think, even if it's not explicitly stated, a lot of people know via cultural osmosis) the implication is that she is going to have forced or otherwise coercive sex with St. Vincent.
For me, I think there are just things that can be adapted and things that can't, and I'd rather these really important points stay as is than see an adaptation that compromises them. Like, I don't really need an adaptation. Probably, at least half the cast would disappoint me. Probably, I'd think it looked cheap lol. I'm really happy with where this series is in my head. I think there are series you could adapt with far fewer dramatic changes (Fifth Avenue Rebels has always been one for me, I also have lately thought The Scoundrels of St. James could be--I mean, that shit can get dark, but the heroes are never *that* dark themselves.). Most likely, The Wallflowers will never even be on the table for an adaptation--but if it was, I'd honestly be kind of afraid because I just don't want something that altered. I think you could, fwiw, have Westcliff and Lillian's first time be totally consensual, but I don't think the St. Vincent thing could be changed without proverbially shaving Lillian bald as a character, lol.
In the same sense, I don't think Bridgerton should have been adapted at all. To me, if you have to rip out such foundational bones of a story (good or bad) to adapt it, just.... adapt something else?
#romance novel blogging#and i used to feel differently#i'm really not a stickler i don't even notice minute details#but the big ones... the big ones matter
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pretty much just echoing what other anons are saying about the absolute lack of nuance that armys have fostered where anyone who has a negative opinion about anything the members do is just an uncultured hater who wants the entire wrath of stan twitter to fall on x member.
while i do think black armies are absolutely correct about the virtue signaling and pearl clutching that white armies tend to do when it comes to sexual references in hip hop/rap outside of bts and agree that it is largely based in racist stereotypes. i think the “bora glasses” are causing them to miss the point of a lot of the uproar. its not about lyrics being sexual bc this (for the most part) did not happen with latto’s verse. in addition, a lot of them hate to admit they find this language attractive bc its the kind of stuff we have been socialized to expect from men since we are little girls. i am latina and grew up around reggaeton (heavily influenced by rap and hip hop) where a min. 80% of the music is extremely degrading and objectifying of women. even as a queer adult woman in her late 20s while i acknowledge this issue with the genre (and have heard much more explicit things) a lot of that music is extremely nostalgic to me. so i understand the cognitive dissonance but i cannot accept that from men i expect better from (not JH obviously lol).
and yes, i do think this is a bad look for JK even if he didn’t sing or write that part bc either he’s aware of the meaning and has no problem with it or is that oblivious to not even know what someone is saying on his own damn song. the fact that an alternate version even exists with this collab tells me that the check cleared before someone in a board room went “actually maybe not”.
despite my deep respect for BTS throughout the years, at the end of the day I will always acknowledge that they are men. they are not some sexless unicorns raised in a place with no misogyny or gender roles, they are men and like most other men they engage in behavior that often betrays the respect of most women whether consciously or subconsciously. we simply may not see it bc they are celebrities with pretty curated online personalities. now, that doesn’t mean i think they’re secretly chauvinistic pigs but despite my respect for them i always keep a degree of distance bc they *could* be.
i will add that the “bora glasses” are a hell of a drug. the double standards when it comes to the members vs other celebrities is insane (and i dont even like most celebrities lol). i know not a single one of these armies would think twice about talking shit about a song like this if it were from anyone else and that’s what really disappoints me about what our spaces have turned into.
I really appreciate your perspective on what the previous anon said , given your own personal experiences and culture. I'm obviously not the best person to speak on this subject.
I agree that the "bora glasses" are a real thing. It seems to me that even "normal" Armys are complaining a bit about the song, however, which is good. But I don't know that the solo version exists simply because Hybe foresaw the original would upset people. They likely wanted to recreate with 3D what they did for Seven - two versions counting as one, or at least another version to boost streams apart from the instrumental. Since it didn't make sense to have a clean and explicit versions again, and because maybe they knew some fans hadn't liked Latto's verses or Seven being a feature, they used the same strategy they applied to TXT's Back For More recently, and recorded a solo version.
I also agree that BTS are men, so, like all men, they're probably a lot more insensitive and ignorant to sexism than we imagine, and say or do a lot of things that would disappoint us (though I don't believe they're secretly chauvinistic pigs at all).
Anyway, thanks for your fresh take!
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Right now there's a lot of people to go to that steakhouse in other places because here in Florida they're coming over here to pull you out and to get rid of you there's a lot of it I think there's much there are 14 rings to adding two tonight to 16 and they're each 10 miles wide this is to stop traffic doesn't have to be that many people coming in here
Thor Freya
-we've had enough of you idiots building up to driving here to harass us you're a bunch of s*** your cowards it's so easy to take you down and send it to I'm taking them down by looking at them it's ridiculous I've seen people die after looking at it wrong it's true answer you idiots how wonderful I don't want to talk the whole thing out I will say that you've been a horrible horrible group our whole time on Earth you never get along with anyone and you always have to mess things up in a couple of jerks including your kids. It's really most of you have down syndrome and when you're out there in the battlefield you poop out you go home I'm trying to turn on us and hit you we don't trust you at all and you say you do cuz he puts it on his machine I am sick and tired of looking at your dumb f****** face you retards and these two are completely absolute morons. This f****** b**** has her head is way off he said give me the money you stupid f****** c*** and she saying no you're with me last night and his shoes in some sex party he doesn't go anywhere and does not dream about her I'll tell you what they're delusional as hell he says it's dangerous and it is he's not soupy is that sick in the head he's not on drugs why doesn't fall for that weak s*** it looks like it cuz it's riding a bike you have to concentrate this helmet mb huh? They're both laughing and they probably think it's true and it's not you're so f****** dumb garth I should get a shotgun and kill your ass myself. No it says that because it's frustrating you're so annoying you're going to send hits out on you now garth you're such a prick you're such a moron. So many people of value got hurt because you're such an idiot you didn't know who your old family members are keep bringing Jason home your a slob he takes your stuff. Stan is taking his stuff and wiping them out the other way around you moron and he's smarter than stan about most things we can't stand you anymore
Mac Daddy
We have a statement too you idiots are out not to do you ever in you're not even our culture you're so dumb and the math you have is horrible it's not right he says you used to be within some lines and decided to rebuild and you did against her whole system now I want you out of here if there's an eviction means an eviction if you're still in the house you're going to get arrested
Stan
I'm actually going to go to court and found the papers nothing's going to happen by us hissing you come back as a different character you're going to get evicted again
Sherry
I cut it off of these idiots for several lifetimes they don't understand no they don't have to take over those stupid White House in a world that does not tolerate that you're supposed to learn from what happens overseas and just encourage you and at least to wipe out all of your people when you're trying it I thought you got it with Gene Simmons they put one right in the head and said don't do that and you forgot and that has a huge a****** and his name is Trump she became president anyway around harming people who thought harmed him and her friend here says it's probably really easy shot him because most people are far too tolerant of people who make catastrophic errors. Gene Simmons says he found out it was him and sees him shooting at her son and it's a problem but those are s***'s rancid and it is all of the warlock s*** is rancid. You're losing the whole game
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Thanks for this analysis-it definitely makes me feel better.
As someone who had a hella abusive parent (very much like Filbrick) who loved when she could brag about me or when my accomplishments made her look good... and at best ignored me when I wasn't The Best™️ (and usually threw in all kinds of abuse for good measure), Ford isn't chasing wealth.
He's chasing his father's genuine approval and affection.
He's been top of every list in just about every objective measure- but he has something that marks him as Different, something he cannot truly hide. Something that will always be mentioned in the same breath as all his accomplishments... and to a narcissistic parent who uses their kid's achievements for status? That means the kid will never be good enough, no matter how many awards they win.
When you're autistic, it's hard to read social cues and hard to make friends with neurotypicals, and it's canon that Ford has very few friends. This also means he doesn't have a lot of chances to hang out with other kids, and crucially, to watch other kids with their parents- to see how their parents treat them. He has no frame of reference to help him realize that the way he (and Stan, albeit in a different way) are treated by their father is not normal, or even acceptable.
He has no example to show him that having to earn love from your parents is Fucked Up Actually. He knows that he doesn't grasp social unwritten rules, and accepts that the way he is treated must just be the way it's supposed to be.
Getting into WCT on a full ride, with a world-renowned invention? Ford believes that maybe, THIS could be the thing that finally makes his father look at him with real approval, with actual love, and unconditional acceptance- despite his six fingers.
I know this, because it's the same exact reason that my autistic ass spent years getting straight A's, taking AP courses, scoring as high as I could, getting scholarships to college, double-majoring, double-minoring, and getting my graduate degree with merit from one of the top 150 schools on the planet before I was 25.
I thought those things would finally earn me love and acceptance. "Maybe this new/next achievement will be the magic thing that gets me love and acceptance."
And Ford follows Filbrick's "dream" for him because he thinks "this might be the thing that makes my dad actually love and accept me", even if he was only thinking it subconsciously.
Having that sort of treatment as a kid really screws with your head, and permanently rewires your brain. Ford was behaviorally conditioned to seek out recognition, because it was that recognition and external praise that made his father acknowledge him as a son... Even when he's an adult, conditioning is no joke, and compliance runs deep. (This is something Bill absolutely takes advantage of.) Breaking the patterns of abuse and fixing your own trauma is very hard... even more so without a trained therapist or psychiatrist to help you through the process.
I'm not surprised that Ford still struggles to deal with a lot of issues.
Incidentally... growing up with an abusive and narcissistic parent tends to prime people to become victims of partner/domestic abuse, and makes them more likely to not question horribly unbalanced power dynamics in romantic relationships... because that's what they're used to.
The way Filbrick treated Ford did a lot to prime him for Bill.
Bill gave Ford what Filbrick never did: attention. Bill told Ford he was special. He accepted him.
In more modern pop-cultural psychology terms, he "love bombed" Ford... and to someone who spent most of his life desperately seeking that affection and acceptance, it's a hell of a drug.
Bill did what people who are terrifyingly good at abuse and manipulation do: he figured out exactly what Ford wanted, and he gave it to him... and the minute Ford was addicted to it, he yanked the rug out from under him... because he knew his victim would do ANYTHING to get it back.
Ford is complicated. Is he a ✨ soft pure uwu smol bean ✨? No. But I like that about him, because I see so much of myself and my history in him. He feels so much more real, because real people are complicated, and dealing with and healing from abuse is not linear. It's a fucking roller coaster and sometimes abuse victims end up making bad choices. We have survival skills and some shitty coping mechanisms, we take two steps forward to take three steps back. We push people away because it's easier than the stress and anxiety of waiting for someone else to hurt us. We are often far from perfect, and healing isn't usually a pretty journey.
The fact that he gets to have a happy ending, to reconnect with people who meant so many deep things to him- friends, family, lifelong partners- and gets to live in a home he created, with people who love and support and accept him? Makes me feel like that ending is one I can have too.
I understand why Ford made the choices he did, especially as a 17yo with his back against a wall who only wanted to have his father love him. He's had enough people tell him he's not good enough- I'm not about to say he's not a good enough abuse victim.
I love Stan, but it's the other way around. Stan is the beloved one. Ford is the one everyone lambastes for *checks notes* being an autistic-coded abuse victim that has flaws.
You...you realize he was still mad at Stan because of the betrayal aspect, right? Not because of WCT? (Also I'm pretty sure he knew it existed). Stan was like. The one person Ford thought he could count on. Then Stan betrayed him. It turned out that he DIDN'T love him unconditionally like he thought. (No, Stan didn't ACTUALLY betray Ford, and Ford is WRONG about the idea that Stan doesn't love him but Ford has no way of knowing that).
Ford haters learn media literacy challenge.
Bill WAS abusing Ford. And if you don't think that matters, please never talk to an abuse victim.
Also lol. "I'm not victim blaming!" *proceeds to victim blame*
You literally are basically saying "why did you date him? You were warned he was bad news!"
Shut the fuck up lol.
More victim blaming. Also he thought he was summoning demon google.
And Ford has no way of knowing what Stan's been doing in that timeframe? He's not omniscient.
The apprenticeship was literally about him spending more time with Dipper, but go off I guess. He thought Mabel would be fine. He wasn't being "dismissive of her feelings", he thought highly of her, and thought she would be fine. We have now reached the ableism that Ford haters tend to spew--that is, demonizing him for his neurodivergent traits. Ford isn't emotionally intelligent and has low empathy, so clearly that means he prioritizes work over family and doesn't care about Stan or the twins (objectively untrue).
Yes, clearly the guy who stopped working immediately to play a game with his great nephew prioritizes work over family.
Then that last bit--more gross victim blaming.
"It's his own fault he got abused and tortured!"
Ford haters ARE the most insufferable people in the fandom. They hate autistic-coded abuse victims, and it's clear. Their lack of compassion for abuse victims and the victim blaming is disgusting.
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this is long but if this is how the fandom behaves during a small controversy, i don't wanna be here to see the day joe does something that pisses people off for real. and it's going to happen because he's human but all this fame thrown onto him will begin to rot his image a little bit. i like one of the most controversial person out there: courtney love. she's accused of horrible things daily and she has had her share of controversy and brought public humiliation onto herself when she was on drugs. but she's an amazing musician and she's brilliant. she also stands for very noble causes and calls out hypocrisy. she was recently calling out the rock and roll hall of fame for their sexist behavior towards female musicians. the reason i'm saying this is because my tolerance for controversy is pretty high. i know the artists i look up to are flawed and they will make mistakes. putting this pressure on joe to be perfect and ideal, to be the greatest man on earth is only going to hurt him and push him away from you and by you i mean his fans. i'm gonna be honest, since i began following joe's career and all, i do believe his this amazing man, very kind, very brave, very talented. but he does have a small vibe to him, that naughty kind of vibe. like he acts impulsively and then has to deal with the consequences. that's NOT a bad thing but it's something that will get him into trouble one day or another. i think some of his fans need to work on getting a thicker skin or stop stanning him so much this won't be the first time he's involved in a controversy. he's only starting. sure he had amazing works before st but let's be real, st turned his career around. he's not joseph quinn, he's THE joseph quinn, the actor who portrayed eddie, the beloved metalhead who sacrificed himself in the end. i get the impression sometimes that because of rpf fics and stuff, some fans have a very idealized version of joe in their heads and when they see the real thing or see something that shatters this version, they spiral. i'm not saying they're wrong about being mad at this charity. i'm really not. i'm just saying that it's that time. joe made a mistake. did he know? probably not. but i don't see him addressing it. he doesn't use social media, he does seem to truly hate it. do i think he sometimes browses his insta? yes, all the time. but he doesn't post, he carries a camera around and takes a lot of pictures and he's never posted them. at least not on his insta. so i don't think he'll say something. it took a year and a con and a very silly girl to corner joe so he would address the verbal abuse grace has suffered. that question was out of place but that's what it took him. he never decided to make a post about it, he never even implied he knew about it. i hope i'm very wrong but the only way i see him addressing this is if a fan asks him about it. it's just a choice. like, if he had no insta we wouldn't even get the crumbs we get and there'd be no way to even tag him on important posts. so he chooses to be silent. don't think it's a bad thing, i have a tendency to let the dust settle before i decide to dust it again. but yeah, guys, thicker skin. he's gonna mess up even more because he's human and he's flawed and he's in a business that showcases all of his mistakes and we live in a cancel culture. we know exactly where he stands. there's a video of him screaming 'fuck donald trump' during a protest, there are pictures of him celebrating the fact gay people could finally get married...he's good. you gotta know this and stand your ground, if you can't do that, then having a celebrity as an idol is a big mistake.
THANK YOU
I'm for real so done with people trying to cancel Joe even for breathing.
This Fandom became hell on earth for real
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FAQ
Who the hell are you??
I'm SpecterJester! Although I'd prefer you would call me North! I'm your local feral Scottish person that has a long list of things I enjoy, but I mostly stick to the horror stuff.
How old are you?
I'm 22, I'm a 2001 baby, so I have seen the birth of YouTube, and I'm older than the Game Cube.
What are your pronouns?
I go by she/they pronouns, those are the ones I'm most comfortable with, I am fine with stuff like dude, bro, all that stuff! Just don't use he/him for me! Thank you!!
What is your gender identity
Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy.
Are you in any fandoms?
I'm not in a particular fandom as I prefer to just post something and run away without interacting much with those spaces, people scare me and I just want to share the funny little guys I like :)
May I make fanart of your characters/fan designs?
I will kill you (affectionately), go for it man!
Why do you constantly say you'll bite people
I don't know, neurodivergent urge probably... or maybe I just have the taste for blood. Who knows!
What's with the self insert posts?
I just enjoy making that content, yeah it's a bit weird, I'm aware, but I think it's super fun. I never really got to do it as a teen due to the cringe culture movement back then, so consider this a reclaimant of childhood? I mean, who doesn't want to fight the characters they like lmao
What software do you use for your work?
I use Clip Studio Paint EX and After Effects, I live in constant pain with my program choices. I miss FireAlpaca.
Do you have any rules about asks?
Please don't send me NSFW, drama posts or anything about boosting posts. These sorts of things stress me out, and generally I don't keep track of these sorts of things. Be aware that I may block you for it. I also don't reblog help-funds or charity posts unless I am 100% certain they aren't a scam. Unfortunately, people are cruel and are willing to lie for money, and I refuse to contribute to that.
Do you have any rules about tagging you?
I'm fine if people tag me in artwork/fanart, but please don't tag me in memes, call out posts, warning posts or posts with triggering content. If a call-out post is that important that I need to see it, please just dm it to me!
Why do you rarely have anon asks on?
Death threats. I can only come up with so many hilarious responses.
You follow [insert problematic person here]!
I will 100% not be aware of what a certain person has done, I would appreciate being made aware of such things, but please don't take me following them as instant certification that I support someone's horrible behaviour and actions.
What content are you NOT okay with?
Racism, lolicon/paedophilia, sexual abuse, drugs, homo/transphobia, ableism, self-harm/suicide baiting. The usual stuff. Instant block if I'm sent or tagged in this content.
Who are you not comfortable with following your account
Proshippers and DreamSMP stans, these are the ones that come to mind. It’s an instant block.
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The Gangs Kahoots Cause I Can
Tw // cursing
How To Fall In Love With Your Best Friend - by Steve Randle
When he smiles do you... a) swoon b) simp c) cry d) marry him
What is my favorite nickname for him.... a) Pepsi cola b) baby c) dumb dumb d) papi
What’s my favorite thing about him... a) hair b) eyes c) fuck you if you make me decide d) knees
Answer key: all of the above, A, & C
My Bisexual Crushes Trivia - by Sodapop Curtis
He sang ‘star man’ and ‘space oddity’ & could punch me in the [redacted]... a) kate winslet b) david Bowie c) Batman d) Steve
“Keep it down on the low key” yeah yeah yeah that’s not gonna work king.... a) usher b) Tom Hanks c) star butterfly d) Steve
We kiss but it’s just homie stuff.... a) ur mom b) norman bates c) doctor suess d) Steve
Answer key: b, a, & d
Why Madonna Is An Icon - by Johnny Cade
She looks good in absolutely everything.... a) true b) so true c) canon d) yes.
Her Vogue at the 1990 music awards was a) showstopping b) incredible c) dazzling d) eh
Her Super Bowl show... a) gave me a certain respect for football b) for straights c) I hate all that but she killed it d) penguins
Answer key: b, A b & c, & c
How To Properly Steal A Horse - by Dallas Tucker Winston
Step one... a) break in b) break out c) break dance d) break tim shepards face
Step two.... a) name it b) get it out with carrots c) yolo d) teach it to speak
Step three, bring it home & hope Darry doesn’t.... a) shoot me b) stab me c) kick me d) castrate me
Answer key: both a & d, d, & all of the above
What My Fuck Up Brothers Have Done To Me - Darrel Curtis
I found my first grey hair when I was.... a) 7 b) 9 c) 13 d) 16
I got my first chest pain caused by anxiety from their dumbassery at age.... a) 5 b) 8 c) 12 d) yesterday
I’ve once.... a) burst a vein in my forehead b) broke my knuckles from clenching my fists too hard c) lost a tooth due to ginding them together d) thought about committing identity theft & running away
Answer key: b, a, & all of the above
Why I Should Be Able To Date Curly Shepard - by Ponyboy Curtis
He gives me.... a) drugs b) butterflies c) syphilis d) cow print socks
He took me out last week and told me.... a) he loved me b) he was secretly a wolf c) a Kim Kadashian stan d) he thinks the Beatles are just one guy that moves really fast
Please.... a) I’ll die if you don’t b) I’ll run away again c) please darry please please d) were already dating so it doesn’t really matter
Answer key: b, a & d, & all of the above
Anthropology - by Two Bit Matthews
Anthropology is the study of.... a) human cultures & their development b) bussies c) how the hell birds exist d) homosexuality
My favorite anthropologist is.... a) Jackie Chan b) Margaret mead c) obama d) Emilio Estevez
An anthropological site I think is overrated is.... a) Machu Picchu b) Stonehenge c) Teotihuacan d) the pyramids
Answer key: a, b, & c
#this is both the funniest & least funny post I’ve ever made#the ultimate shitpost#the outsiders#the outsiders headcanons#the outsiders memes#the outsiders incorrect quotes
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Heeeyy, first off, you've been one hell of reliable Wilbur spotter so thanks a bunch! Secondly I don't suppose you have a masterlist or happen to know which streams Wilbur shows up in on the dream smp outside of his own? I'm trying to catch up on alivebur to manifest his revival being soon pffttt I imagine there's lots of Tommy ones he shows in and I know for sure there's that one Karl stream for Niki's birthday
GOD I WISH I DID. I used to keep pretty good track in my bookmarks but Alivebur stuff was all the way back in November and Ghostbur appearances became pretty rare right around December-January during cc!Wilbur’s break so it’s been a while.
TommyInnit & Fundy Invisibility Prank Tubbo on Dream's Minecraft Server: At like 1hr45min Tommy calls Wilbur, who is not on the server yet. Crazily enough they talk about how boring the Dream SMP is while Melohi, the disc most commonly associated with Wilbur & Tommy’s DSMP relationship, is playing. Wilbur also scolds Tommy for bullying Tubbo
Tubbo, Tommy, Jschlatt, and Wilbur play Minecraft and chat: This is when Schlatt got banned. Wilbur joins back sometime during this when they join a new world and talks about random shit
TommyInnit & WilburSoot discuss their Empire Plans in Dream's Server. - I think this was shortly after Wilbur joined. He and Tommy discuss Wilbur’s plan to start a country. Wilbur also sings “Your New Boyfriend” for the first time here & thats when it went viral!
Rest under read more so I can update later
TommyInnit & Sapnap mess with Tubbo on Dream's SMP: Forgot to include this one, this is right before Schlatt joins the server (Wilbur builds his ball house & then Schlatt logs into the server)
TommyInnit meets jschlatt for the first time.: Iconic, Tommy’s POV of Schlatt actually joining
I have no idea if the full vod for this is on Youtube, but here is Wilbur (before he joined the server) serving as Tommy’s lawyer.
TommyInnit Scams Dream in Minecraft (huge 1v1): Iconic vod where Wilbur asks Dream out a date, Wilbur starts chatting like 1hr27min in
Dream SMP: World At War. L’Manbur gives a rousing speech and makes Tommy his right hand man like in the last half hour
TommyInnit & WilburSoot start a Business on Dream's Minecraft Server...: I think Wilbur streamed most of this?? Except the part where he says Tubbo would be John Laurens near the beginning but not sure
TommyInnit & Tubbo make a fallout bunker on Dream's Minecraft Server - Wilbur is in this for about the first 5 minutes just to get attention
[Dream SMP] Hi im new here! :) (Aug, 6 2020) - This is when Niki joined
I don’t even know where this one is from, but Wilbur bullies Tommy for getting a bad haircut
Quackity Builds The White House in the Dream SMP with TommyInnit and WilburSoot - After Wilbur ends stream he stays to talk with Big Q about stan culture and whatnot I think
Wilbur, Tommy, Techno and Tubbo Talk About Money - Honestly Wilbur might have streamed this but I forgot
Tommy Finds A NEW PET w/ Wilbur - Wilbur talks about MCC and war crimes and what not
Unfortunately, the Karl vod for Niki’s bday party was deleted. Here’s a good compilation though
Quackity Celebrates 1,000,000 Twitch Followers in Dream SMP: Wilbur is grinding for sand to make TNT during this vod. Also tw cuz Wilbur talks a lot about calories & dieting here for some reason lmao.
Dream bullies TommyInnit for having low viewers.: Wilbur, Dream, and George bully Tommy for having low viewers & Wilbur and George impersonate each other
Wilbur Soot Plays Guitar While Taking a Bath w/ Karl and Quackity: I think the full vlog was deleted but at least we have clips ;-; Quesadeez at the Rainforest Cafe forever
George, Tubbo, and Karl pretend to play Wonderwall but its actually Wilbur playing
Ghostbur’s first appearance was on Nov 17 in Tubbo, Fundy, Quackity, and Tommy’s vods.
Quackity Hosts JSchlatt's Funeral: Ghostbur teaches Quackity the L’Manburg anthem and Quackity writes a book, “Big Q’s Funny Hoots”, for Ghostbur’s library
DREAM SMP BUT I'M ANGRY | BadBoyHalo Stream: This is also out of character, Wilbur just talks to BBH and Puffy and its fun. He joins at like 2h21min
Quackity Prepares to Fight Technoblade This is out of character, Wilbur is just extremely drunk here and gives Quackity advice and its really funny
Fundy and Wilbur ride a strider
Fundy | Dream SMP - BEING ADOPTED (2020/11/27)
Tommy & Wilbur make Tubbo a gift and he hates it - Tommy and Ghostbur make drugs
a new home - Ghostbur is in this Techno vod
Tommy Is Trashing Technoblade's Home with Ghostbur
L'Manburg Stuff - Ghostbur and then OOC Wilbur are in this Tubbo stream. Notable lore is when Ghostbur puts on a helmet of binding for Philza during his hosue arrest. Otherwise lots of songs
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TW // alcohol, drugs, rape / child rape and child pornography
I am extremely EXTREMELY pissed off. There is a reason I've only started to listen to kpop casually now. All except for maybe ATEEZ and mx/wonho.... Maybe stray kids too. Fucking hell being a kpop stan is exhausting. Watching fans tear each other apart, tear other groups apart, tear THEIR OWN GROUPS apart..... And honestly, though I know it's not ALL koreans, but AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of them are so blinded by herd mentality that they don't realize that they are starting to throw a bad light on their society.
When you prioritize punsihing people for smoking weed, having prescription medication from other countries, or being in a RELATIONSHIP over the rampant alcoholism that is their drinking culture, the HORRENDOUSLY LAX LAWS regarding rape, CHILD rape AND CHILD pornography, AND non-consensual filming WOMEN during sex......?????????
And the fact that ONLY A FEW of them seem to understand when the media releases these weed and relationship "scandals" that ALMOST 99% OF THE TIME they're trying to distract from something bigger going on??? And that because of their herd mentality, it WORKS???
With Wonho it was the MNet rigging scandal, the 97 line with the club thing was the Nth Room trials, and now with BoA and Ilhoon???? Weren't there JUST EXTREMELY HEAVY criticism for media award shows about 1) how they're still going on despite the rise in cases, and 2) how MAMA especially treated the idols by making them wait out in their cars in freezing temperatures while the actors presenting the awards got private rooms and catered food for them? Or how about the condemnation of that asshat who raped that little girl to the point that she's now in a wheelchair is BACK IN THE SAME CITY that she lived in instead of STILL being under lock and key??? I even heard there was a bribery case regarding the president's son??????????
And now that this is released, the GP has shifted focus from allllllll of that to BoA and Ilhoon. Poof. Like smoke in the wind.
Look the US is in NO WAY better with half the shit we've got going on here, but at LEAST the majority of us know not to trust half the shit that comes from ANY media's mouth, REGARDLESS of which political party you're in. We also know to MIND OUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS when it comes to celebrities, and we show them compassion when they seek help for their issues. We're not roses and sunshine, but at least the good majority of us know when the hood is trying to be put over our eyes and mercilessly taunt and ridicule those that fall for the kool aid.
I'm just.
Ugh.
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You people are so horrible, I feel like none of you have lived a life, do you loose sense or touch of reality by being so chronically online and spending your life hating on a stranger?
The way you are letting lily James off the hook when if there is anyone to blame it’s joule be her.
You people need help, this is obsessive behaviour. You are so obsessed with a man who did a job.
And also you are all incredibly privileged, so to denounce that, leave all your clothes and earthly positions and houses and everything you own and go to under privileged countries to make up for the “evil” you have done so far by being “privileged” and exploiting people. until you do that don’t speak shit about him.
Anon, you are literally spending your life hating on a stranger. Never said i was letting Lily off the hook. Its just that her fans are nearly as obnoxious about it. People like you give Seb fans a bad name. Like I can't help but feel sorry for other Seb fans who are decent or even Seb himself for people who are so nasty and unhinged in his fandom. Now stop projecting and go watch Monday for the billionth time.
This is last of these anons that I will be entertaining. Any other will be deleted on sight. Now get the fuck off my blog and move on.
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why doesn't hordak have more fans?he hurt alot of people sure but at least he never abused the people he cared about most. catra hurt adora and scorpia yet she is not hated for abusing the two women in her life closest her. catra got entrapta (a friend )sent to beast island a fate entrapta saved her from! then she started treating lonnie badly after scorpia left. they were never friends but catra's behavior toward her bothered me.
Stan culture is one hell of a drug.
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Top 10 Most Underrated K-pop Songs of 2020 (Idol Edition)
2020 was shit. But oh boy, at least the music was good.
And it took us a good while to decide on these lists.
Continuing with the K-Pop Timeout Tradition (see 2019 Ver) of listing the Top 10 Most Underrated K-Pop Songs because all the other sites are just bothered with the Top 10 that pretty much everyone will have heard of/have fan wars over, below are our top 10 picks of songs that did not rank high but deserves your attention!
Like last year we have a separate post for Top 10 underrated non-idol tracks in 2020 and a list for the Top 10 K-Dramas in 2020 in our opinion, which will drop in the coming days.
Some of the artists have escaped the list in recent years to stardom (like N.FLYING, SF9 and OH MY GIRL), so hopefully, it happens again!
This is in alphabetic order NOT in the order of awesomeness because all of them are awesome. Also, all MVs are linked in the song titles because Tumblr won’t let me share that many videos in one post.
APRIL “LALALILALA”
APRIL is a very well-rounded girl group but their talents have been squandered by DSP’s mismanagement in recent years. With DSP seeming to try again and with member Naeun’s meteoric rise thanks to acting in webdrama hit “A-TEEN” and the internationally loved K-Drama “Extraordinary You”, “LALALILALA” seemed like the song to finally give APRIL the awards they deserve. Except it did not, which is an absolute shame because “LALALILALA” is easily one of the strongest girl group tracks this year. The futuristic synths and snappy drum instrumental made for a delightful pop track and reminded us of DSP’s heydays of churning out similarly pristine and impactful tracks for KARA and Rainbow. If you were a fan of past DSP girl group bops like KARA’s “Pandora” and "STEP”, this is the song for you!
Cherry Bullet “Hands Up”
Whoever thought of putting “Beethoven” and “girl crush concept” together should get a raise at FNC Entertainment because it worked. Sampling Beethoven’s famous piece “Für Elise” in different parts of the instrumental using different instruments ranging from synths to different keyboards, the producer was able to provide rookie girl group Cherry Bullet with a hip-hop heavy girl crush banger that is catchy and fun. Also, it is clear the girls of Cherry Bullet really enjoy this song, exuding confidence and charm in the choreography and overall performance. After a few listens, you would be nodding to this addictive song and body rolling to the chorus. If you are a fan of girl crush songs, you have to listen to “Hands Up!”
Cignature “ASSA”
Honestly, we are annoyed with C9 Entertainment scrapping the highly talented girl group Good Day after merely one song and their relatively strong run on KBS’ “The UNIT” and re-debuting only some of the girls in Cignature under their sub-label J9. However, we cannot deny that “ASSA” is a powerful track. It is many things at the same time - it covered the quirky girl group demographic with the cute and somewhat bratty sounding introduction where the girls seem to be talking and singing at the same time, then a somewhat mature buildup came out of nowhere with a more raspy and charismatic delivery on the vocals front before an aggressively girl crush drop begins the chorus carried by the members feeling themselves (specifically their hair) with attitude. If you love the quirky sound of fromis_9 and Oh My Girl but also want some OG girl crush energy like 4MINUTE, “ASSA” is your song!
CSVC “No Mercy”
Okay, CSVC is not really an “idol” group in the traditional sense. A project group made up of 4 indie artists (CHEEZE's Dalchong, Stella Jang, Lovey and Park Moonchi), CSVC tries to recreate the 90s girl group sound of legends like S.E.S, Fink.L and Baby VOX and we are here for it. Not only do all four members have the pipes to carry the early K-Pop sound that has heavy RnB influences, they went all out in the song production with the retro reverbs littered throughout the track and new jack-swing inspired intro. The MV was also a love letter to 90s K-Pop girl groups with the intense use of flares, extreme use of lighting, the “futuristic” sets seemingly made of tin-foil and the members all donning all black or all white outfits. If you are a huge fan of 90s K-Pop, CSVC’s “No Mercy” is the song for you!
ELRIS “JACKPOT”
Honestly, we have no idea what the hell HUNUS Entertainment is doing with ELRIS but even with the mismanagement, they continuously give ELRIS great songs and “JACKPOT” is easily one of the best girl group songs of the year. It builds up from silky vocals to strong rap, which is followed by wonderful harmonisation before we dive into a two-part chorus which made use of the members’ strong vocals as well as gave us catchy moments to sing along to. The music video is also a delight, with the girls dancing on a stage built to look like a roulette. The addition of the 2 members also made ELRIS’ already powerful stages even more impactful. We have been hearing rumours of disbandment but we hope it is not true. If you want to listen to the definition of a well-rounded and fun K-pop girl group track, ELRIS’ “JACKPOT” is THAT SONG!
IMFACT “Lie”
IMFACT is truly a strong boy band with great vocals and strong song production skills of their own yet they CONTINUE to be SLEPT on. I mean being managed by Star Empire Entertainment does not help but it is ridiculous how little domestic and international support they have. They have a distinct sound which they continue in “Lie” - electropop infused with K-Pop song structures and a generous use of unique drums patterns. If you love electropop and K-Pop, it is time to stan IMFACT and check out this amazing song!
NATURE “Girls”
Maybe n.CH Entertainment go a boost in Mnet money after taking on the job to manage TOO after Mnet’s “To Be World Klass” show because their budget really went up and it shows in NATURE’s “Girls”. This song is truly a masterpiece. The chorus is like what you would expect of a club banger EDM track but the verses are made up of clean vocals exhibiting anguish and longing over a relatively simple beat and the bridge was orchestral instrumentals mixed with the drumming of a marching band and the loud chants of the girls. The music video is also simple yet haunting. If you like the darker tracks of 9MUSES and RAINBOW like “Sleepless Night” and “Black Swan” but also the electronic sound of Berry Good in “Don’t Believe” days, this is the song for you for you!
ONEWE “End of Spring”
We need more bands making it in mainstream K-Pop and ONEWE’s “End of Spring” gives us another reason why we think so. “End of Spring” is a breath of fresh air in this year of mainly 80s retro dance tracks and hip-hop heavy pop songs in the K-Pop world, as it instead went for a pop rock sound more reminiscent of American pop rock acts like Train in “50 Ways to Say Goodbye” and One Republic in “Counting Stars” but with a dose of the energy in a teen summer party. If you enjoy a fun pop rock song, ONEWE’s “End of Spring” is the song for you!
OnlyOneOf “dOra maar”
OnlyOneOf is a rookie group with a lot of potential given their heavily alternative RnB and overall escape room-esque sound. They had many great songs in 2020 with wonderful music videos but our favourite here at K-Pop Timeout has to be the MV-less “dOra maar”. This laid back and smooth song showcases each member’s unique vocals and sounds more like a top Korean RnB artist experimental collaboration than a K-Pop boy band song. Also, it is always fun to see K-Pop artists take inspiration from art and culture of different countries (the titular Dora Maar is a French photographer and the lover of Pablo Picasso). If you are mostly a Korean RnB fan, OnlyOneOf’s “dORa maar” might be your gateway drug into the idol scene!
Weki Meki “COOL”
Fantagio seems to be a bit unsure about which sound to give Weki Meki, as the group swings between aggressive and catchy girl crush songs to more generic cute summer songs like a pendulum. They should really consider keeping Weki Meki with the sound they found in “COOL” because the girls really carried this supermodel runway power walk song with poise and confidence. While we have seen boy bands dabble in the runway model sound such as IN2IT in “Snapshot”, SF9 in “Now or Never” and KNK in “Sunset”, we have actually rarely seen girl groups going for this expensive sound. Additionally, the music video for this song is powerful, with the scene of the girls facing each other and vogueing in a long dark room being highly memorable. If you love power girl crushes or any of these boy band songs we have mentioned above, you would really like this song!
Special Mentions of Underrated Debuts:
There were many strong debuts this year and I would like to mention 2 underrated rookie groups to look out for in 2021!
Male - E’LAST “Tears of Chaos”
While more and more male groups are debuting with either badass or cute images, E’LAST decided to enter the K-Pop world with a highly orchestral sound. And the boys have the talent and visuals to carry such a dramatic and theatrical concept. Their label E Entertainment, also seems to have every intent to do the most for these boys, as seen in the production quality of their MVs. With these boys already dropping new material right now, you all should keep an eye on them!
FEMALE - woo!ah! “Bad Girl”
With many strong female group debuts this year, you may have missed woo!ah!, from the small label of NV Entertainment. This small company in fact is led by SM China’s former CEO and this person certainly has an eye for talent because woo!ah! is a very balanced 5 member girl group that has a lot of potential to make it big. In fact, the group is beginning to develop an international following, with “Bad Girl” reaching #1 in the Vietnam's biggest music platform, edging out both aespa’s “Black Mamba” and BLACKPINK’s “Lovesick Girls”. They have already followed up with B-Side track promotions so check out these underrated rookies!
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Rob Zombie; "Why it's time to step outside the confinements of his own box."
For close to four decades,
Rob Zombie has brought nonstop psychedelic grooves and a rockstar presence while gracing his own music and the silver screen with gut-churning, drug-tripping visuals. He not only commands quite the presence in films (whether his own successes or others’), but also makes appearances within many other horror soundtracks. There’s no denying that Zombie is a bloodied savant who has stayed incredibly consistent.
[ᴿᵒᵇ ᶻᵒᵐᵇᶦᵉ. ⁽ˢᵒᵘʳᶜᵉ: ᴳᵒᵒᵍˡᵉ ᴵᵐᵃᵍᵉˢ⁾]
(Written by Stella, edited by Jacob J.)
(Side note; tumblr’s photo formatting is a pain)
Let’s take a dive into his music before getting into his film library. From 1985-1997, White Zombie released six albums (between studio and compilations). La Sexorcisto: Devil Music Volume One didn’t break into the Billboard 200 chart until a year after its 1992 release. Shortly thereafter, it became the hot and groovy bong success of the band, going on to sell two million copies. Astro Creep 2000, their final and fourth studio release, was their first and only album to chart within the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 in 1995. Up to this day in 2020, “White Zombie” has been featured in 47 TV, film, and video game soundtracks, from Beavis & Butthead to Pen15 to Bride Of Chucky (which includes a personal favorite moment of mine), amongst many others.
After the disbandment and separation, Zombie continued on his solo journey. He has gone on to release six studio albums, with a seventh on the way in March 2021, titled The Lunar Injection Kool Aid Eclipse Conspiracy. A multitude of hits—eight to be exact—sat within the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 records.
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Zombie’s extensive film career is a “Super Beast” on its own.
He has been very vocal about gaining inspiration from 1920s-1980s horror culture. In many interviews, he’s cited Stan Lee, Bella Lugosi, Alice Cooper, and Steven Speilberg as being responsible for molding the brain that we know today.
Some of his influences include:
George A. Romero’s Dawn of the Dead (1978)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
The Shining (1980)
Zombie’s upbringing in the carnival industry alongside his family is another key influence.
[[I’ll only be focusing on Zombie’s live-action films here.]]
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In 2000, Rob made his directorial and (very memorable) screen debut with House Of 1000 Corpses.
It took three years to be released because of quarrels with major production companies regarding the film’s majorly aggressive themes of torture, blood, violence, sex—not to mention his arrogance with MGM, fighting to get rights back from Universal. Eventually, Lionsgate bit the bullet, albeit with the major stipulation of having Rob edit it down much further so House could pass with a “tame” R rating.
[[House of 1000 Corpses: Rainn Wilson as taxidermy merman (Source: Tumblr—and if you’re brave, you can view the scene here.)]]
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In 2005 and 2019, the franchise’s next two installments—Devil’s Rejects and 3 From Hell—were released. The franchise is heavily influenced by the shocking, sickening, and unforgettable ’70s classic Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It follows a family of psychotic, sadistic, and bloodthirsty (if I’m being honest) necrophiliacs. They kidnap, kill, torture and brutalize anyone who gets in their way. At the end of Devil’s Rejects, they somehow manage to survive a police shootout, escape prison, and waltz on into Mexico (as seen in the franchise finale 3 from Hell).
Look, it’s all complicated.
Main Characters from the franchise:
Captain Spaulding—Sid Haig
Baby Firefly—Sheri Moon Zombie
Otis B. Driftwood—Bill Moseley
Momma Firefly—Karen Black (recast as Leslie Easterbrook after Karen’s passing)
(Other notable appearances throughout: Chris Hardwick, Rainn Wilson, Danny Trejo, Dee Wallace, Ken Foree, and Diamond Dallas Page.)
⁽“ʰᵒᵘˢᵉˢ ᵗʳⁱˡᵒᵍʸ”, ᵈᵛᵈ ˢᵉᵗ﹔ ˢᵒᵘʳᶜᵉ﹔ ᵗᵃʳᵍᵉᵗ.ᶜᵒᵐ⁾
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The notorious/controversial Halloween (John Carpenter, 1978) remakes from 2007 and 2009.
(ᵃ ᵛⁱᵉʷ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵒˣ ᵃʳᵗ ᶠᵒʳ ᵗʰᵉ ʰᵃˡˡᵒʷᵉᵉⁿ ʳᵉᵐᵃᵏᵉˢ ⁽ˢᵒᵘʳᶜᵉ﹕ ᵃᵐᵃᶻᵒⁿ⁾)
Look, this is a remake that you either adore or hate with a burning passion. If you’re a horror fanatic, you know what’s up with the original.
I personally adore Zombie’s take. The fact alone that he gave us an entire background story as to why Michael became the psychotic slasher that we’ve come to know and love. Plus, with an increased suspense and gore factor? Worked incredibly well and did justice (in my opinion).
The film made me feel bad for Michael, with moments of child Myers in therapy, particularly his love for making masks to pass the time while he was locked up and the touching family moments between him and his mother Deborah (Sheri Moon).
ᵈᵉᵇᵒʳᵃʰ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵐⁱᶜʰᵃᵉˡ ᵐᵉʸᵉʳˢ ⁱⁿ ʲᵃⁱˡ ᵗʰᵉʳᵃᵖʸ. ⁽ˢᶜʳᵉᵉⁿᶜᵃᵖ, ʰᵃˡˡᵒʷᵉᵉⁿ. ˢᵒᵘʳᶜᵉ﹕ ᵍᵒᵒᵍˡᵉ⁾
[Michael’s cell in the 2007 Halloween remake. (Source: Google)]
Add in the supporting cast of Michael McDowell (Loomis), Brad Douriff (Sheriff Leigh), Scout Taylor-Compton (Laurie Strode), etc., and I honestly think that it came together very well as a remake.
The films rated relatively low, but they did gross higher than the budgets that they originally had to film on. Again, I’m not going to give much attention to the higher-ups of critical perception—it all comes down to personal taste.
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“Lords of Salem” (2013)
[[Promotional art for Lords of Salem. (Souce: Google Images)]]
A film that’s centered within Salem, Massachusetts,
this film—you guessed it—tackles witches, occultism, possession, Satan, and all the usual topics. Heidi (Sherri Moon) is a radio DJ who gets sent a mysterious record that’s labeled as being from “The Lords.” From then on out, shit gets a little dicey and admittedly, very disjointed. You can’t fault the cast here, and I loved the visuals that they were going for. However, with set schedule conflicts and multiple rewrites, which led to essentially running out of time to film? As a whole, what looked great on paper just couldn’t be done justice.
My FAVORITE sequence within the film (SPOILERS):
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I can forgive the disjointedness solely because of how mind-boggling and brilliant the film’s history and proper visuals were. Also, we got to see Dee Wallace, Judy Geeson, and Patricia Quinn as creepy and badass witches who moonlight as Heidi’s landlords. Also Meg Foster who leads their coven? Can we talk about what a femme-fueled power cast that is?!
[[Left to right: Patricia Quinn as Megan, Dee Wallace as Sonny, and Judy Geeson as Lacy Doyle. (Screencap, Lords of Salem. Source: Google) ]]
[[Meg Foster as coven leader Margaret Morgan. (Screencap, Lords of Salem. Source; google)]]
Like I said prior, the film gets a little wild. If you’re...well, buzzed prior to watching, it may make a little more sense.
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“31” (2016)
[[Film poster for 31 (Source: Google)]]
[Synopsis from IMDB; “Five carnival workers are kidnapped and held hostage in an abandoned, hellish compound where they are forced to participate in a violent game, the goal of which is to survive twelve hours against a gang of sadistic clowns.”]
Here, we clearly see that Zombie is invoking his childhood growing up within carnivals. In a 2013 interview with LA Weekly, Zombie divulged more about it:
“When we were kids, my parents would [work at the carnivals], and me and my brother would get dragged along to these things all the time and have to work.”
He went further on to say;
“Yeah, and it's not the nicest world. As a kid, you get exposed to the crazier underworld of the carnival. Me and my brother, when we were very little, we'd be inside the haunted house playing all day. So, already, what people are paying money to be scared [of], we're just playing in because it's fun. We saw the inner workings behind the machines.”
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(”31″ trailer, source; Youtube)
Once again in this film, Zombie brings a powerhouse cast:
Jeff Daniel Phillips as Roscoe Pepper
Meg Foster as Venus Virgo
Malcom McDowell as Father Murder
Judy Geeson as Sister Dragon
Richard Brake as Doom Head
You can view the entire cast at IMDB here.
Set in 1976, Zombie stays true to his nods. Again, depending on taste, this is a huge hit or a wild miss with mindless homicidal violence, campiness, and climbs across the monkey bar of standards that we’re used to seeing from him.
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So at this point, you’re probably wondering why I think that it’s time for Rob Zombie to step out of the confinements of his own box...
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It’s no secret that Zombie sticks to only a small group of tropes:
Slashers, families or groups of homicidals that lack remorse, the occult, etc. There’s no shame in sticking to what you know. Hell, Zombie has seemingly cracked the code over the past two decades that he’s been in the film industry that so many directors still don’t seem to get.
IMO, despite whatever you personally feel about the films mentioned above- I feel like we’re living a freaky groundhog day repeat within Zombie’s filmography.
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Now, if it ain’t broke, why fix it? Look, I’m not saying that Zombie has to change anything. However, I would love to see him tackle some other nuances that we’ve already seen from him in small doses.
- Children: We haven’t seen Zombie exactly take on what horror films depict kids as. Sure, he made a breakout and impeccable choice with young Michael Myers (Daeg Faerch) back in 2007. I personally would adore to see a reimagined (NOT remade) Children of the Corn on acid, one we all know Zombie can tackle and turn every existing view on its head.
- Witchcraft, The Occult, Satan, Voodoo: Zombie genuinely had a phenomenal concept (on paper) for 2012’s Lords of Salem. It was unfortunate that they ran out of resources and ran into unfortunate circumstances on set while filming.
The film wasn’t a total tank, though, given how inspiring and insane all the visuals were throughout the 1 hr, 41min film. I am absolutely positive that, given a full-force opportunity, Rob could rectify the mess that was out of his control. We completely saw that he provided visuals that left quite the impression, and he could take those taboo subjects by the goat horns.
- Animals (not the human form): It’s no secret that Rob and his wife Sherri are ethical vegetarians. It would be so tongue and cheek to see them take on such topics as animals getting their revenge, or even vegetarians torturing carnivores. This twist on the formula would make for an interesting viewing.
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2.) In regard to time periods,
Zombie stays within—and pays homage to—the 1970s and 1980s quite a bit. Obviously, those are the eras that Zombie personally loves the most when it comes to filmmaking. However, it would be very interesting to see him take on current day settings.
Zombie has such a unique viewpoint. Given changing climates in politics, human decline/growth, the economy, etc., he would do work that could easily put Ryan Murphy to shame.
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3.) He could also do with some different casting every now and then.
Let me preface this by saying that I adore every repeat casting choice that Zombie has made for his films.
Of course chemistry is a huge thing, and sticking to his friends is a very smart choice. However, he also has the potential to make new stars, boosting the power of those that may be under the radar. He can support those new stars with cameos from classic actors that we haven’t seen in awhile. I can’t begin to even fictionally cast those who fit the bill, but I do believe that with the “Zombie Touch,” he can bring so much more fresh air to the usual casting.
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There’s no doubting what Rob Zombie is clearly very good at. Despite mixed reviews from the horror world and critics, it’s time that his fans open their eyes to new possibilities. Of course, there are die-hards, but digging your feet in further doesn’t allow the growth of horror and its ever evolving themes.
[[ʳᵒᵇ ᶻᵒᵐᵇⁱᵉ, ˢᵒᵘʳᶜᵉ﹔ ᵍᵒᵒᵍˡᵉ ⁱᵐᵃᵍᵉˢ]]
This theory has been on my mind for a very long time—since 3 from Hell came out. I’m sure, in his usual fashion, we won’t be seeing any new films from Rob anytime soon (what with his new album set to release in March 2021, not to mention the toll that the pandemic has had on Hollywood.)
Still, it never hurts to challenge the set standards and ways.
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it’s a jinsoul! this was my pfp for song lmao...rip trust issues though :(
i know you stan loona but im gonna gush about them anyways for the sake of gaining new orbits lol! :p
my personal favorite songs:
rosy
loonatic
day and night
oh yes i am
curiosity
love letter
d-1
egoist
uncover
everyday i love you
loona truly has songs for everyone though. me and an irl are the hugest loona stans and curiosity is literally the only overlap in our respective top tens like,,,that’s how you know a discography is diverse, and more importantly, good as hell.
eclipse and butterfly (and girl front to some extent), two (three) of their other top tier songs, seem to be the biggest gateway drugs to becoming an orbit lol.
i feel like orbits make stanning loona out to be more difficult than it actually is...like i really enjoy the lore and find it fun but all of the complicated stuff is pretty much just fan theories and you can enjoy them thoroughly without it. that being said, i think if someone is new and invested in stanning loona, watching the solo mvs in order is really worth it...what i wouldn’t give to experience all of them like that for the first time again :’)
checking out the three subunits it also important for orbit culture imo,,,1/3, odd eye circle, and yyxy are so musically rich and diverse i think it’s really fun to see their progression, plus it helps to understand group dynamics!
why you should stan:
the girls themselves. somehow the members of loona only give off the polished idol aura onstage. offstage, they basically seem like your neighborhood pals, burning chicken nuggets, drawing ugly pictures of each other and cheating at board games. they’re all very casual sort of people, and you can tell that their friendship is genuine.
beyond their personalities, their music...like i said, they’ve pulled off so many concepts it’s just so cool to see where they go next. idk if any other orbits get this feeling but when i see loona, even if i don’t like something that they put out, i still feel like they’re on the cusp of something great. i love my underrated flop* groups but loona is definitely not one of them. it honestly feels like current orbits have arrived early to the party, and now we’re just waiting anxiously for the other shoe to drop. i’m legitimately excited and happy to see where the future takes them.
i don’t want to go into detail about the lore because it’s kinda a lot, even though they reeled it in a bit for their last two comebacks but lemme just say. if lore with an actual point and story to tell rather than some vague artsy bullshit is something you’re into, you’ll like them a lot.
watch loonatv! it’s not essential to watch *all* of it, but you meet the girls one by one which eliminates confusion about names, personalities, subunits, and stuff. they also are doing a new series called loona logs, which are just vlogs filmed and edited by the members! i really like them, as they’re more substantial than other content and allow the members to just be themselves :)
thank you sm for the ask!!! i love gushing about loona ;;
send me a #! <3 ♡♡♡
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