#sp6

[nicstylus]

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Completed: May 6th 2024

[mistype360]

HOW DO I DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SP6 AND SO4? PLEASE HELP IT'S BEEN YEARS🫠

-c

OK OK

both are romantic/dreamy, emotional, and sometimes reserved. the difference is:

so4 romanticizes to make life more bearable. sp6 romanticizes, or is "in their head" like an e9, mostly to avoid action

so4 is constantly searching for WHO they are. sp6 is again like a 9, feeling like they can be anyone depending on the situation/time

so4 is more willing to detach themselves from others and give up relationships. sp6, even in conflict, does not like giving up connections with others

in general...

so4 is hypersensitive and hates criticism. they are also surprisingly more distrustful than a 6. they have a belief that everyone is out to get them.

sp6 is generally very warm towards others and appears affectionate, affable, and caring on the outside. they have a fear of failure and doing something wrong. also they're more averse to change

[phlve]

Subtype Trait Structures: sp6

Guilt

The identification with the aggressor and introjection of an internal persecutor, to defend themselves from external threats, entail the development of a superego that constantly feeds the feeling of guilt. This self blame is a way of controlling the world: “If it is my fault, I can do something about it.” Then, they look for punishment, as masterfully portrayed in Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment, all with the hope of placating this uncontrollable self-persecution.

Unconscious behaviors sometimes lead them to “turning themselves in” to get the punishment through which they, uselessly, hope they will be forgiven and “rescued.” This neurotic mechanism leads them to search for the love of one of their parents (usually the father) through the admission of fault and inadequacy, with the goal of forgiveness. Therefore, the conservation E6 sees attaining love and appreciation through their own merits and personal value as impossible.

Persecution

Seeing themselves as constantly at fault, they also feel persecuted: they project their internal persecution externally. It is a form of paranoid thinking which incurs the following: other people are always ready to catch your faults, attack you, and criticize you, and if they do not, it is only because it is convenient for them to hide their intentions at the moment to ensure they punch down the line.

Given that they demand from themselves more and more, they can’t handle that it is other people that are accusing them and they continuously oscillate between victim and accuser.

Accusation

The conservation E6 has the competitive desire to take the place of the authority which tends to cause controversy. They always believe they know how things should be done while submitting to their superiors at the same time. At the same time, they love and hate the authority that they mystify.

It is hard for them to take on responsibility in negative situations (failures, conflicts, etc.) out of fear of being vulnerable and the other taking advantage of them. They accuse with the purpose of defending themselves and ensuring that others don’t accuse them.

Worry

They obsessively search to confirm what they are and what they do. The dominant fear is of failing and doing wrong; and it is so dominating that it blocks action or expression, and is as if they lacked an internal method to determine the validity of a personal choice. Prior to action, a long and troubling process leads them to ruminate with a rigidity that turns into pure inaction. The fear of judgment compromises doing, with inhibition leading them to known or comfortable goals.

In the work environment, they choose to do things they are sure of. They avoid changes in the workplace for fear of not being able to deal with them, of lacking the ability or knowledge; they do not propose things but rather hope that others do for them.

They do not like to improvise, they prefer to prepare before new situations, out of fear of ridicule. The moment of confrontation with the other is very stressful. The feeling is always that they are not ready enough. They need continual confirmation, by the people they trust in, that they are doing the right thing. When this confirmation does not come to them, they mentally review, typical of an insecure person, what they have said or done.

Indecision and Doubt

Their thoughts are centered on subjective content, to defend themselves from what they do not perceive clearly. But, they do not recognize having departed from absolutely subjective premises. Their primary goal is to demonstrate (especially to themselves) that their idea is valid. A “cogito, ergo cogito” complicates things to such a point that their thought eventually remains in the hands of doubt.

Doubt is connected with self-invalidation and ambivalence. They constantly devalue themselves but at the same time have a great self-concept. They feel persecuted (in extreme cases can lead to a paranoid schizophrenia). They even doubt what they doubt. They are suspicious of others and suffer from chronic uncertainty about which action to take.

They love and hate the paternal figure that represents authority. They desire to please and attack. They go through phases of contact and withdrawal: the desire for a relationship and for fusion is as strong as the fear that they will completely become vulnerable. They have not built the ability to establish clear boundaries, and they move with extreme ambivalence between their desire to satisfy their own needs and fear of losing the relationship with the other.

Due to this fear, while the E9 has given up on maintaining the difference between the self and the other therefore solving the conflict, the E6 invaded by the threat constituted by the other, withdraws to protect the self, inhibiting any kind of decision and, therefore, any action, whether it be at an interpersonal level with an external other, or at an intrapsychic level with a self understood as the essential set of emotions and needs of the other.

Passivity

The issue of control is basic in childhood and adolescence both among their school peers and their loved ones. The message received is: “The world is dangerous; you are weak and influenceable and, therefore, we are the ones who will guide you because we know what is adequate for you.”

Introversion

Between the psychological types described by Jung, the conservation E6 corresponds to the reflective introvert. The introvert, locked in themselves, stays clear of too much contact with external reality. This introvert is characterized by the primacy of thought: the ideas that they have of other people affect their relationships, without them realizing the distance that they are introducing into them. They have a negative relationship with the other, which comes from the indifference to rejection. Thought tends to disarm the adversary. The other is always a little neglected or surrounded by measures of caution they defend themselves from external demands with.

The conservation E6 fears that emotional manifestations of the other will overcome them. They prefer reading to overt social contact, are introspective, schedule their activities, and control their impulses and feelings.

Lack of Trust

The first psychosocial structure that the child learns, according to Erickson, is trust. With milk, the child incorporates their mother and nutrition. The derived wellness makes the surrounding objective world acceptable: this is the base upon which we base our mental world.

“I am what I get,” the kid could claim, in the sense that they trust themselves and others by the quantity and quality of the security of what they’ve received. The conservation E6 has been unable to incorporate the feeling of wellness connected to the relationship with a nutrition-bringing mother, and as a consequence, they have not been able to build this trust on security. This lack has made them insecure and fearful.

Ambivalence

The conservation E6 was an over-protected child who did not feel accepted in their own true needs, which came with a recognition of their own less positive qualities.

If the child does not get help in their efforts of individuation to be who they are, or is pushed toward a definition of themselves that satisfies the representation of their parent over their true nature, there are two possibilities: submitting or rebelling. Or the two reactions together, which is what usually happens.

At first, the child rebels, but over time, they end up accommodating themselves to the demands and needs of their parents to avoid rejection and the withdrawal of affection, to not fall flat with disapproval, and in practice, loneliness.

In their ambivalence, the conservation E6 cannot live serenely with adaptation nor rebelliousness: both polarities are unsatisfactory for them and they live in an irreconcilable dilemma between freedom and obligation.

Self-Denial

When they have to choose between what they are, between their project, put out ahead by their own efforts, and others’ projects, which is presented with guarantees of maximum support, the conservation E6 accepts the easiest solution: other’s proposals.

They give up a super important need in this way: realizing their own efforts. At the root of this, they feel a very strong hostility that, unable to manifest it, comes back against themselves in the form of blame. To be accepted, they activate adequate behaviors, like obedience, goodness, and solidarity. These are hard to attain if they are countered with other needs, like a natural selfishness or the need to be oneself, even with that aspect’s own accompanying miseries.

They “eliminate” unacceptable impulses that, in spite of everything, they struggle to carry out. The fear that they can overcome this self-censoring is what we call “anxiety.” In other words, the E6 puts their mind to a self-idealization whose dominant traits are perfection, and feelings of omnipotence and omniscience. In this manner, they make the illusion that they’ve outgrown self-hatred and conquered others’ approval. That they have overcome the base conflict between their need for self-realization and others’ needs.

Submissiveness

In Karen Horney’s description of neuroses, we can see this E6 in the conciliatory personality, whose style of conflict resolution is resignation, particularly in tending to renouncing with submission. The neurotic “resignation” restricted the field of action connected with their own desires.

They can renounce all ambition for success, in that it implies effort and, additionally, the danger of being imprisoned by others’ expectations and responsibilities. They prefer to cultivate intense imaginative activity and fear their elevated ideal of themselves, while they delay the necessary action to make things reality. They tend to be convinced of chasing what they want, which they don’t really know much about. They lose the orientation of action because they do not have contact with desire, nor with its implied emotional aspects. This leads the conservation E6 to a detachment leading them to occasional inertia in the plane of action.

The submissive resignation causes extreme neurotic worry about conflict and punishment. The mechanism of projection is evident through the way they invest others into co-action and hostility instead of recognizing their difficulty to be “free” and themselves.

The conservation E6 is one type who can fall victim to inertia, paralyzed in all aspects of their life. To drain the anxiety at the root, they feed a spooky omnipotent world that does not reveal an authentic position of independence. And with submission they do not take action but rather maintain an ultimate defense stemming from their internal world.

Selfishness and Stinginess

The conservation E6 houses the “crazy” idea that material and emotional resources are scarce and that they can always lack basic things, with a threat toward their own survival. From this erroneous perception, they derive their worried, and “selfish,” attitude with only some material things and emotional relationships.

This selfishness is manifested in an attitude of always putting themselves before others, out of a reaction of fear that they will never be up to the challenge faced. In general, this fear is not conscious, and when it is, they become very ashamed of it and see it as something that should not happen.

Cloudiness

The way of thinking in conservation E6 is always oriented to the past or the future. It is essential to the need for security to predict anything that could happen and to be in a situation to face difficulties, and directly proportional to the distrust in their capacity to do so.

Thinking about the past, in itself, is essential to the maintenance of control over possible errors committed through the feeling of guilt, with the goal of corrective action and finding safety. The feeling of guilt is, additionally, a defense mechanism against pain, from which they cannot be abandoned.

Feeling comes after thought, which conditions it. As Hegel claims: “If emotions are not coherent with thought, that is bad for emotions.” They control, above all, the emotions that could cause conflicts with people significant to them. It is hard that they allow themselves a moment to not think about anything, unless they get validation that it is ok. When this happens, this “not thinking or doing” is very pleasant for them.

Their thoughts are seemingly logical, but only on a superficial level; in their deepest core, they are undefined and cloudy. This allows them to not define themselves to other people, a strategy which maintains their absence of deep commitment, and avoids confrontation and conflict. In reality, emotions controlled like this come back strongly and dysfunctionally when thought no longer allows a solution to problems.

Inhibition

The conservation E6 is very inhibited, in both instinctual impulses and aggression. Their hesitant character is a vacillation between their impulses and an equally intense fearful inhibition that stemmed from a fear of the father or, more widely, authority figures, and has led to a strong superego.

They tend to have the personality, which can last a lifetime, of a “good kid”: someone who ensures they live according to ethics and others expectations, with an ingratiating attitude, often smiling.

Insecurity

Very different from the schizoid E5, who is a true loner, this character’s timid nature is more like a type of stepping aside out of fear of annoying someone or out of insecurity, but truly yearns for closeness, and satisfies their need for emotional support with a few close relationships.

Inefficiency

It is always a laborious process for the conservation E6 to make a decision, or even move: due to their fear of change, it is easier for them to lengthen a situation than to keep moving forward and confront a new challenge. This deliberate slowness, together with the tendency to create a fog to obscure the clarity of things, make them less agile. Like the “fool” in fairy tales who, for fear of making their own decisions, is often manipulated.

Fantasy

This type is much more of a dreamer than a doer, substituting reality with fantasy. A certain inefficiency is the other side of their inclination toward their internal life and noble ideals.

The inhibition of emotional expression makes them a hypersensitive and fantasizing character, blocking them from action and instinctual spontaneity.

For a strategy oriented toward controlling commitment, dreaming of fusion with another is more functional than a tangible relationship, which would bring confrontation.

Without a Right

The conservation E6 has always felt like a stowaway: someone who got on board without a ticket: in their family, in love, at work. They are the disinherited heir, the wife abandoned at the altar, the laid off worker. It is as if the shadow of these possibilities never abandoned them, ever present.

Suspicious

The conservation E6 is always alert, looking for signs and indicators of hidden meanings (opposite of the E3 who wants to have everything under control). They reflect too much!

They also like instructions. As dutiful distrusters, they resolve conflicts trusting in logic. While the E7 uses intellect as a strategy, the E6 shows a fanatic loyalty to reason. To feel confident, they adopt the strategy of searching for problems: they must have them in order to solve them.

Source: PDB Wiki

[camzverse]

wish some of u were into typology id love to know how youd type some fnaf chars so bad

[todayingoodmusic]

james goss knew what he was doing with owandy because these 2 characters both value trust and we see how owen breaks andy's by not trusting him, yet owen is the one who considers him and andy friends in the first place (but you and i both know that it's more than just that)

owen craves andy's trust but doesn't want to let andy in because he's afraid that the people who get close to him get hurt, just like katie

[phrysic]

my friend is getting back to typology again and that means pressuring them into watching spn so they can hyper-analyze the characters

[subconsciousmysteries]

When talking about IV people are so cunty and immature, they're like "teehee sp/sx and sx/sp is the type for Cool Edgy People who hate people, and if you are like nice to anybody at all and personable you're a soc." That's not how IV works or how reality works. Grow the fuck up.

[ifievertoldyou]

e6s are so interesting. because with, like, e8s, you Know that they're very confrontational no matter the subtype, but if somebody says they're an e6, you won't know if they are or not, because it depends on whether they have a phobic or counterphobic subtype.

[amazinglizard]

my inner turmoil and battles is trying to find out if i'm a 6w7 or 7w6

[enneadonis]

STOP FOLLOWING SUPERFICIAL CLASSIFICATIONS OF ENNEATYPES AND THEIR INSTINCTS

I'll start these with the Sexual Six since it's my type and, in my opinion, one of the worst examples of this.

Every Enneagram type is defined by a core passion that stems from their Triad Center's primary shared problem. The E6 is in the Head Triad, thus, like all Head Triad types, is characterized by anxiety. Sevens escape the anxiety outwards, Fives lean into it inwards, and Sixes are caught up in the middle. The passion of Fear is what rules over them the most, nothing feels certain to them and is subject to questioning in order to make it be more certain, and incur in less fear. It's funny how everyone considers Fives to be the resident academics and researchers of the Enneagram when Sixes can very well be their close partners in crime. Sixes are a mental, logical type.

In the same way, every instinct is characterized by focusing the personality on seeking one of three spheres of our lives. The Self-Preservation (SP) instinct seeks conservation of their personal sphere, the Social (SO) seeks adaptation of that sphere to external demands, and the Sexual (SX) seeks relations in that sphere.

So! What do we get when we apply the passion of Fear to the sphere of relations?

Well, according to some, it just means Sixes become these aggressive types, using intimidation and status symbols as a way of seeking security, basically making everyone else afraid of them so they themselves can feel like the fear isn't there. Okay. Where does this even come from??

This common understanding of the SX6, going as far as to getting the nicknames of "Strength/Beauty" and "Intimidation", is completely ridiculous. They miss the fundamental reason as to why people with these fixations would behave like this in favor of focusing on superficial characteristics that show up in some examples and do nothing but alienate people who would benefit so much from seeing themselves in what this type is really about! Think about that portrayal once more. Doesn't it sound much more focused in the security of the self?

That's not inherent to Sixes as many believe, that's just the sp insinct, conservation of the self, making sure the self is safe. Sixes are about Fear and constant surveyance in the service of certainty and safety, yes, but it gets applied to different spheres, not just to the self. This is why SP6 get portrayed as these meek little dudes who just don't want any trouble, when you're already applying the SP instinct to every portrayal of type 6, how are you supposed to differentiate the actual SP variant?

Fear, when seeking relations, makes us scared of not having relations. Or the relations that we want, or in the way that we want them. Doesn't matter, the point is that the focus is on relations, on others, on emotions, not the self and personal safety. The SX6 craves the intensity, romanticism and devotion that any other sx type would. Their fear of not being someone who could live up to the standards of others so they would want to have that with them is what rules over them. That is the primary focus.

What does an actual SX6 do then? Like all Sixes, they try and live by certain applied sets of rules, while simultaneously pushing back against them. This push-pull relationship with authority entities (unspoken rules like social conventions can still be an authority, even if more subtle) is what encapsulates the E6 experience. This gets applied to questions of "how must I be (compliant/dutiful Hornevian Triad) in order to be someone others want?". It's here that we arrive at the actual focus:

The SX6 is about Desirability

And not in a deceitful way, like Threes or Twos could possibly fall into. Sixes genuinely want to embody what characteristics and ways of life they see others deem desirable and worthy of admiration. This is how we get the current SX6 stereotypes: fitness influencers, jock bullies and the like. And those people could very well be behaving under SX6 motivations! Just not because strength and intimidation is the point, but desirability. It's not the need for being intimidating or strong that needs to be let go of.

What SX6 needs to let go of, in order to grow, is the need to abide by what they are so sure they have to follow in order to be desirable to others. Only then will they actually allow themselves to bloom on nothing but their own terms and actually be someone who attracts people to their side with their strength of character and courage. At their best, they might even have somewhat of a chivalrous air about them.

SO NO, NATE JACOBS IS NOT AN SX6, STOP LUMPING US IN WITH THE LIKES OF HIM

Thanks for coming to my ted talk, I will be dumping more about the Enneagram on here in the future byeeeeee

[mistype360]

What are some telling differences between social 6 and self-preservation 6?

tldr; sp6 feels guilty/introverted, so6 is more ideological

so6

stereotypically "nerdy"

decisions seem very difficult to them

often idealistic, "the greater good"

interested in psychic, ideological, or philosophical ideas

identifies strongly with their community

often mistaken for e1

does not like time passing, feeling as if they have wasted time

sp6

introverted, more independent, shy

seeks approval from authority

strong ideas about guilt

may be perceived as warm

often mistaken for e2 and sometimes e9

trust issues, struggles receiving help from others

contradictory

arrogant (believing they can be authority), selfish

finds it harder to stay in the present

[blueopinions49]

Enneagram 6 Subtypes Explained

Social 6 "Duty"

The Social 6 is characterized by their desire to belong to a specific group of people. They look for these social and emotional systems in which they can find comfort and emotional safety. Usually perceive as a rule follower by many in the community. However I find this to partial true. The SO6 does look for a system of support however, they can also look for a support system that rebels or is against the status quo. The groups they look need to share similarities to them or desirable traits. This 6s can be very outgoing and sociable BUT make no mistake they are still a 6. Meaning that they still share a general skepticism/cynicism of others. They can look like 1s (very responsible) and imo 7s (due to their outgoing and social nature especially if they have a w7)

Characters: Susan Pevensie, Marie Moore, Percy Jackson, Leon S. Kennedy, Xiao Yu, Scott Summers, Kagame Higurashi and Kendall Roy.

Self Preservation 6 "Warmth"

The anxiety the Sp6 harbors can be linked to their high awareness of their current environment as well as the ongoings of it. This subtype usually gravitates more to system that maintain their emotional comfort via order. Usually practical and hardworking this 6s maintains itself safe by maintaining a strict order around themselves. For this 6s the safety in their environment is both physical and metaphysical. Imo they are the most skeptical of all 6s approaching most things with cynicism. Being very careful as to who they let in their space. This subtype can look like a SP5 (due their more reserved nature however the SP6 does look for connection) and SP9s due to their environment focus.

Characters: Edward Cullen, Miles Morales, Bonnie Bennett, Chihiro, Asami Sato, Armin Arlert , Dipper Pines and Pearl

Sexual 6 "Strength"

Often confused by 8s this subtypes fight the fear the inner 6s have by standing on their own. However, unlike the 8 (who look for power and autonomy by themselves) the SX6 looks to fight their fear (by trying to connect with others). This subtype has an edge to them unlike the other 6s. Their desire for connection is more on the aggressive side. They are the most open about their skepticism of others. The focus for this subtype is stability in interpersonal relationships. As mentioned previously this subtype can look like an E8 (simply due to their reactivity) and some 4s (due to their edginess and over expression of emotion).

Characters: Claudia, Joel Miller, Laura Palmer, Sasuke Uchiha, Maggie Rhee, Killua, Chloe Price and Jared Grace

[fagofgod]

this was so silly... WHAT 9 core traits do you have. anyway reconsidering sp6. seems more realistic actually.

reconsidering e9 core again after being set on so4 for like a year...

[camzverse]

vanessa shelly is sooo sp6. u dont even know. its insane

[sp6ghetti]

Enneatype 6 summarised!!

Core type- Passion: fear. For e6s life is like a huge threat. They are convinced everyone is against them. They even see their own fear as a safe space, something that can guarantee physical safety. Fixation: cowardice. Due to the constant doubt, they lead to create an infinite amount of unrealistic worst case scenarios to prepare themselves for anything. Trap: security. To protect themselves, they often look for someone stronger than them. They expect this person to keep them safe from impending disaster, and devote themselves to this person completely. Defence mechanism: projection. To avoid rejection and keep their self image of being loyal, they attribute feelings, thoughts and most importantly fears, onto an external source. This is called projection. Virtue: courage. Once e6s realise nothing can harm their essence, they can allow courage to replace fear. Key traits: Hypervigilance, theoretical orientation, orientation to authority, doubt and ambivalence, contrarian thinking, self-fulfilling prophecy, 

Subtypes-  Self preservation [sp]: The sp6 is often called the most fearful subtype, they’re the most in touch with their fear. They close their true self off and create an image of friendliness to avoid arguments and such. They can drop this act once people get closer to them and they start feeling uncomfortable by this intimacy. When this happens they often start to either close themselves off from this person completely or lash out. Sexual [sx]: Sx6s are pretty much the opposite, they think that once people think their kind, they're seen as weak. To avoid this they create fake courage and strength. They often want to be seen as a leader, because when they’re the ones with power they need not worry about those who may have more. Social [so]: So6s often hide behind people with more strength and courage than them. They’re extremely loyal, the downside of this is that they put full trust in these people. What this person of power says is always true in their eyes, the other way around, they blame mistakes they’ve made on this person as well, giving them full responsibility over the so6.

Contradictions-  ENTP, ENFP, ESTP, ESFP, ESFJ, ENFJ E6 is mostly an introverted type, this is mostly due to cowardice, security and projection. Their extroverted cognition and lack of cognitive and logical structure leads these types to be incompatible with e6. However, Te is widely considered to be compatible with the subtypes sx and so. Naranjo also compares sx6 and ENTJ specifically.  Types you might want to look into if you are on this list are e1, e2, e3, e4, and e8.

Compatible types- Self preservation: INFP, INFJ (ISFJ) Sexual: ISTP, INTP, ISTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ENTJ Social: ISTJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ENTJ

[bit-b]

A request I got during SP6, based on the voicelines of a Halloween decoration.