#sorry to rant some discourse just makes me go mad

[imminent-danger-came]

Fighting for my life

[chrysalis-the-butterfly]

Schnee's video "The Deeper Meaning of Loser Baby" is by far the BEST Hazbin Hotel analysis I've ever seen. Literally. Perfectly pointed, edited and EXTREMELY empathetic. Like. For real. It clearly shows how media literate and sympathetic the author is. He analysed Angel's behaviour, his trauma, how realistic it is, how well written Angel and his whole arc is, analysed why and how Husk was able to help Angel when Charlie wasn't... omg, it's so much better than any anti bullshit trying to explain why "Angel is a bad victim actually, hypersexual and unperfect? Nhaaa you're unvalid actually yeah sorry" to validate their own hate boner against Viv. Seriously, what a fucking perfect video. I recommend anyone of watching it, even haters, so they can see how blind and ignorant they truly are.

Thanks for sharing!

I did really like how non-judgmental Schnee's video was. I do occasionally watch videos made by Hazbin haters - because I want to give the other side a fair hearing, and expose myself to different views so I'm not just in an echo chamber - and one of the things I'm struck by is how many of them drift away from talking about the cartoon to pass judgement on the fans. "I don't understand how anyone can like these characters!" "Y'all have been gaslit into thinking this is good writing!" "Everyone has such bad takes, as evidenced by this single comment that only one person said which I'm now going to rant about!" That sort of thing.

Schnee's video was different. It didn't poke fun at the fans of the cartoon (probably because it was made by a fan). It instead kept its focus on the story - what Angel goes through, and how impactful that is, and how Angel's arc fits into the wider themes of Hazbin Hotel. And the whole thing was really well-scripted and well-edited.

Another thing I liked about Schnee's video was the fact that it wasn't laser-focused on Angel's character flaws, which it seems a lot of anti-Angel videos are. They focus too much on how he was harassing Husk in the earlier episodes, and don't acknowledge the fact that he changed and stopped doing that in the later episodes.

I even saw one video that was criticising the Huskerdust ship saying, "Be mad at me for saying this all you want, but I'm sorry, does Angel even really deserve Husk at this point?" When I heard that, my jaw dropped. What do you mean, Angel doesn't deserve Husk? Yes, he has a bad coping mechanism that hurts others, but does that really make him totally unworthy of love? Can he not be loved as he is and then helped to change?

And what does that say about Husk? That quote makes it sound like Husk is better than Angel and that Angel would drag him down, like Husk is some perfect precious uwu smol bean who needs to be protected from the big bad spider demon. My fellow human being, Husk is a former Overlord. He owned souls and gambled with them and didn't care until his own power was threatened. But I don't see anyone arguing that Husk doesn't deserve Angel because of that!

Why is Angel getting all this ire? Why is he the launcher of a thousand discourse posts and not, I don't know, Valentino, his abuser? That very same video also mentioned Staticmoth, and all it said about that ship was, "I just don't feel comfortable shipping a sex abuser with someone" - and that was it! Valentino has done so much worse than Angel, but he was quickly dismissed in that one comment, whereas Angel got three minutes in this video (plus multiple other videos by the same person) trashing him in an angry tone of voice with F-bombs aplenty! It's disproportionate!

(deep breath)

Wow, that was a doozy of a tangent!

That's the trouble with watching videos by Hazbin haters: you run the risk of hearing something that boils your blood. So it's really refreshing to find videos that aren't just criticising Angel endlessly, but treat his story with the respect such topics deserve.

I feel that not enough people recognise Angel's positive traits either. Such as his willingness to assist people even if they've hurt him in the past. Or his bravery in standing up for others. Angel's got a good heart deep down! It just takes a bit of work to help him show it.

[murderenjoyer]

Getting all mad about AA discourse again. My husband just shooed me out of the room cuz he's tired of listening to me rant so I guess I gotta do some Astarion-posting on my blog instead 🤷‍♀️

So yeah I'm very very irritated by the people who insist that AA fans "don't respect Astarion as a character" and "only think about him in terms of sex."

First of all, there is nothing wrong or bad or immoral or anti-intellectual about sexual attraction. Let's get that bit out of the way right now. Being horny for him does not guarantee that someone doesn't respect him. Attraction is not synonymous with objectification. I'm sorry you people are drowning in puritanical Catholic anti-sex bullshit but you really need to disengage from it because it's making you insane.

So with that out of the way, on to my major point:

Choosing to let Astarion ascend is not indicative that the player doesn't care about his needs or wants. In fact, I would argue it's quite the opposite.

Where you see ascension as "giving in to immorality/evil/The Trauma," I see it as him making the best of what he's been given. He will always be what Cazador made him - a vampire. That is unchangeable. Unfixable. He will always carry that specific scar of Cazador's abuse.

So what can he do about it? He can either 1) suffer every aspect of that curse forever; The insatiable hunger, the sun sensitivity, the restrictions on running water and entering homes. He can creep around in the darkness for the rest of his unnatural life because it's what his s/o wants him to do, based on their personal moral framework. Not for himself. Not because it'll ease his suffering. Simply to please his partner. Simply to ease their personal sense of moral guilt.

Or he can 2) steal Cazador's life's work out of his hands and negate most of his vampiric affliction. He won't be hungry (I don't know if you have ever personally been food-insecure but true hunger isn't just a little bit annoying. It isn't a mild irritation. It is torment. It is a painful, nauseating hell. You feel physically sick and weak. Food is the only thing you can think about, it becomes an all-consuming obsession. It. Is. Hell.), he can go into the sun (something he talks about loving and missing and cherishing through the entire game), he can walk into any building whenever he wants, he can cross rivers and take a shower at will (I don't think faerun has running water plumbing yet but you get what I mean).

On my first playthrough, before I interacted much with the fandom, I never once thought ascension was a bad idea. He excitedly babbled on about how cool it was gonna be and I, wanting only for his happiness, hyped him up. HELL YEAH we were gonna kill Cazador. HELL YEAH we were gonna turn him into a super vampire. That's sick as fuck. Who wouldn't want that? I know I would.

When the moment came I immediately used my psychic eyes to show Astarion his scar pattern so he could carve it into Cazador. I didn't know of his famous "kneel" dommy daddy line. I didn't do it because I thought he'd raw me in return. I didn't expect him to become cool and powerful and deliciously evil.

I simply wanted to help him get what he wanted. I wanted him to realize his dreams. I wanted him to be happy.

I think that's the case for most Ascended enjoyers. We didn't hear of his post-ascention behavior first then make the choice to ascend him based on horny vibes. We heard his words, saw his behavior, and did what we thought would have made him the most happy.

I personally don't see keeping him a spawn as being objectively the better way for him to handle his trauma. I don't need him to be a soft, gentle, wilting flower "perfect victim." I don't mind if he came out the other end of his ordeal a little bit eviler, a little bit crueler, a little bit crazier. He doesn't need to be a super soft boy for me to love and care for him.

I don't appreciate being accused of not respecting him because anti-AAs associate the presence of a sexual component with dehumanization. I don't appreciate being accused of having no media literacy because my idea of an acceptable healing journey isn't in-line with a Hallmark movie.

[lovelykhaleesiii]

can I just say this fandom is getting so ... toxic and out of hand I go to twitter there's shit, I come to tumblr there's more shit 🤡 honestly the hate towards actors and even amongst fans, and creators be it art, fanfic or whatever... Is so disgusting... It's like either you have to agree with every single world someone says or else you're the enemy and get told you should go kys or worse... the racism towards poc actors and overall bully behaviour makes me mad af ... ppl forget how they are just doing their jobs, they don't write the scripts they just act them out...

I haven't interacted with fandom for months now, given the amount discourse between writers had me shook, so basically blocked every account that showed up on dash regarding it all, but with season 2 coming I thought hey why not see how things are... Idk it's like nothing changed for some folk ... They still hate Emma for not being the Rhaenyra they want, the hate Olivia for just playing her part, they hate tom because ... the poor man is playing a controversial character ... They hate Bethany for being a woc ...

Sorry for the rant, I've just been so frustrated with seeing everything... Plan to block all hotd tags and certain creators because honestly I just pop by on tumblr to browse through things and sometimes read a fic or two but lately the amount of bad behaviour I've seen in this fandom from writers or just random hateful folk have just ruined the whole experience for me.

I totally get you nonnie & I’m so sorry you feel this way, especially with s2 just days away from airing…

I do think as unfortunate as it is, majority of this fandom is actually quite heinous and disgusting. the behaviour I’ve seen towards the cast members and towards each other in this space is so hostile and vile, I’m openly ashamed to be part of it. all this back and forth bullshit with TG vs TB is just actual fucking nonsense. like who gives an actual shit? there’s an entire genocide happening but let’s ignore that and rip each other’s heads off about fictional people… humanity at its finest.

I’m actually being deadass when I say, I’m so over this discourse between the teams regarding HOTD. like no team is better than the other, that was the whole point of the story.

hence why, I’m trying to remove myself a little bit from the fandom space especially on tumblr. only trying to focus my energy and interest into the story / show itself.

after all the drama that unfolded especially in this fandom these last few months, there’s a lot of hypocritical behaviour and I’ve honestly got no energy anymore.

more important things in life than arguing with twats on the internet.

so I definitely recommend removing yourself from toxic people in this fandom, whether you need to ghost or block them. you’ll be saving yourself 🫶🏻

sending you only good vibes anon, and I hope you can find some solace in my little corner. that’s what I can offer to anyone that feels the same!

[parameciam]

i'm so tired of fandom police and people that demands that i justify why i like the things i like / ship the things i ship -.-

CW: mentions of SA, CSA, ableism + long rant incoming about my own experience in fandom as an autistic person

this morning i stumbled on a post (not here) about my fav ship, saying that we should talk about a certain scene (dubcon) and that their shippers never talks about it.

i read the whole thing and ended up so fkn annoyed and spent all day thinking about why i was so mad.

it's not because someone doesn't like my fav ship, btw, i couldn't care less about other people ship preferences. i only care about my own and wish everyone else did the same so i can enjoy my "problematic" things in peace, thank u very much.

it wasn't about the dubcon part either, i know it's triggering, it's complicated, and many people won't ever ship them because of that. no one is required to ship them, or like them at all, btw. (addendum: it's a canon side ship, not fanon) and of course i'm not going to question other people's squicks and triggers, esp since i was sexually abused as a child.

and then it dawned on me that that i was mad because the post wasn't really an invitation for us shippers to share our views on them. it was an invitation for other people to be scandalized with them about shiping something like that, and since they directly mentioned the ship and the characters, i stumbled upon it.

for a moment i contemplated the possibility of actually replying and going meta over my blorbos, but decided against it because i don't have the emotional capacity to participate on discourse without fear of ending up having a meltdown.

but i kept thinking of how this kind of thing has happened all my life: the things i like, the ships i ship, the characters i love, the media i consume, and the ways i enjoy them have always been questioned (for different reasons across time). being autistic equals being perceived as wrong, broken, too much, too little, too weird (long list of misc etc) and people outright tells you that or shows it anyway, even if they think they don't lol so I'm like, extra tired of feeling excluded and/or constantly being made to feel wrong and immoral.

it's not like i don't know that some of the thinks i like/write/read etc are dark, morally wrong, unsafe irl, etc. it's just that i enjoy all that in fiction, i think it's a safe place to explore delicate issues and themes, and esp enjoy finding the nuances that the narrative wants to explore. i love imperfect victims, i love good people making wrong choices, i love the realism of gray characterization.

i don't anyone to tell me shit i already know, i have eyes, i read/watched the same novel/manga/whatever. maybe we have different interpretations, but that's it. i don't think i'm morally superior, nor do i want to be. what i do want are discussions in good faith.

maybe that's why no one mentions that scene either, because we already know how that's going to go (and it's already a small side of fandom, so why bother).

sorry for the looong ramble, i needed to get this out of my system. i don't want to tag the ship/fandom because this was mainly about my own feelings and don't want to bring hate or initiate discourse about them.

in fact, most of my thoughts and feelings about them are going to take the form of a fic relatively soon: i don't feel qualified to write meta about them 😅 but i want to explore so many things about them, and disability, and ableism, autonomy, agency, etc etc etc.

[kurtmustdie]

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Carrd Hey there, friendly neighborhood idiot here to introduce himself B) this looks best on a darker mode btw

✯ Basic Info:

Hey! My name is Ash, I go by he/they/cat/ghost/vamp pronouns (I don't really mind if you use some over others). I'm a minor so uh,, don't be sketchy. I'm trans. super cool. also neurodivergent. awesome. I'm an artist, a casual furry, and worst of all... emo. I'm so sorry. /j

Putting the reading thing so it isn't too big of a post, pls keep reading!!

✯ DNI (DO NOT INTERACT):

Homophobes, transphobes, racists, antisemites, misogynists, TERFS (Trans Exclusionary Radical "Feminists"), SWERFS (Sxx Worker Exclusionary Radical "Feminists"). All of that sort. I don't put up with that shit. also Anti-furs, like can you guys just not for a second

LGBTQ+ Exclusionists. I'm an inclusionist. stay mad.

Harry Potter stans. You can be a casual enjoyer and interact idc but if it's all you post about I might block you.

If you're just looking to pick a fight... just don't. its tiring for everyone.

If I've specifically told you to fuck off.

Proshippers, Comshippers, and, get this, Anti-shippers. Your guy's discourse stresses me out dont bring me into that 😭

MAPs/ZOOs/Anyone who supports those. Please get help.

NSFW Blogs because I am baby.

if you have an nft pfp I will just straight up block you.

✯ What to Expect from this Blog:

Art. Lots and lots of art. mostly of OCs and characters that I my brain decides are the only thing worth focusing on <3

ON THE TOPIC OF ART: My art might contain triggering subjects such as blood, slight gore, bright colors (and effects that may cause eyestrain), Violence, animal violence, and implications or themes of s/h sui. I am not making light of said topics, art is art. I will properly trigger warning said art when needed, dw :D

Random text posts usually pertaining to fandom or just general thoughts or events I experience. I might rant here and there. who knows :3

Lots and lots of gay people (I wish they were real /j)

Catsss im a cat person

Other people's art I wanna promote :D

The occasional comment about politics, it's once in a blue moon so dw about it.

edits... perhaps....

Warrior Cats AUs for like,,, everything..

Overall just whatever I want because no one can stop me >:]

✯ FANDOMS IM IN!!

Spiderverse (I am unfortunately a Miguel O'Hara fan, but Hobie is better let's make that clear.)

Warrior Cats (I was introduced to it at the age of 9. I will never be the same.)

Wings of Fire (kind of i dont actually talk about it too much)

My Chemical Romance (also intruduced at the age of 9. I will never ever be the same.)

Gerard Way (His solo music and Comics, love him to death /p)

The Stolen Hope

Cookie Run: Kingdom (kind of... I'm falling out just a tad. Affogato Cookie deniers dni /j)

Sanrio (kind of)

Monster High (kind of)

Umbrella Academy

True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys

✯ Favorite Music!!

My Chemical Romance

Gerard Way

Rebzyyx

The Cure

Foo Fighters

Green Day

Paramore

AJR

Evanescence

Jon Bellion

Glass Animals

C418

Lemon Demon

Pierce the Veil

Radiohead

Tyler, the Creator (I'm just getting into his music, thank you Tik-Tok)

Fall Out Boy

The Smashing Pumpkins

Weezer (lol look its weezer blue)

Gorillaz

Lovejoy

Mitski

Rage Against the Machine

Taking Back Sunday

Jack Stauber

Billy Cobb

8-Bit Misfits

Måneskin

Mother Mother

TV Girl

The Killers

And many mooorreeee....

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What Lurks Beneath

The Exiled

Red Stars

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bye bye lol

[belethlegwen]

out of curiosity, are there genres/tropes/things regarding G/t you wouldn't write (size-swap, fearplay, etc)? I'd love to drop an Ask or two for prompts, but I want to make sure I'm not crossing any boundaries

thx again!

Oh hey!! Thank you so much for the ask!! <3 I like to try and stretch my writing abilities a bit and am willing to at least TRY and take a crack at most requests I get when I post prompt lists and the like, but there are a few places I won't go. I don't do Vore of any kind, and while I'll do fearplay for an open-audience (tumblr) it will probably likely be really tame.

Overall, the things I am really uncomfortable with for the most part in terms of writing would be like, whump, extreme harm, that kind of thing. I can't stomach whump much even as a reader (no shade against those that do), I just... find it personally very very hard to get past as a reader, and writing things like whump I can only even really attempt if I know there will be good comfort coming after.

Another thing I do not fuck with is Pet-Trope or like, extreme dehumanization of a tiny. I got a lot of shit against that trope as it is personally, and have given reading some stories the ol' College Try but just had to admit that no matter what, I just can't bring myself to even critically-approach that media without it being way too much for me. I get way too mad and have a hard time separating emotions from the narrative. That is on me, and my personal boundaries are that I just do not engage with it.

I don't like hurting the little guys, but I understand that Hurt has to come if you want to do Hurt/Comfort. It just drives me up the wall when it just seems like the pain/damage is the POINT, and the comfort (if there is any) is just somehow a gateway for further dehumanization or humiliation or infantalization or anything else. I've got a lot of personal hangups about it and it squicks me real bad.

I have no issues personally with anyone who does Vore/Whump/Dehumanization/etc content either from a creation stand-point or an interaction/enjoying standpoint. We all get different things from our media and what upsets or harms us might be cathartic or even healing to another. I don't like it when people attack PEOPLE when it comes to trope/genre discourse, it's reductive and more harmful than good (ex: shit like saying 'everyone who likes whump is an abuser'. It's a completely untrue statement that only serves to direct harassment to undeserving people and makes it harder for them to find safe-spaces with which to healthily interact with the media they enjoy and/or analyze it critically in spaces with multiple viewpoints.)

Everyone can have genres/tropes/stories/characters/etc that they do not like, and that they adamantly hate! I know I do! I'll rant about that shit forever! I just don't want to then look at someone who DOES like it or DOES create it and make them feel like I want them hunted for sport and that everyone should agree with me that they should be hunted for sport.

SO sorry that this took such a strong ramble!! I've just had some experiences in my time here on Tumblr (and a lot of other internet places, let's be real) where you need to be clear about what's happening and what you're saying because nuance can be real hard for some people to pick up.

TL;DR - Don't ask me to be like, real-REAL mean to a li'l person in the narrative and we'll probably be gucci, haha <3 Everything else I don't mind explaining any limits with on a case-by-case basis, as well! It never hurts to ask and the worst I'll do is say no. I promise I'm not too scary about it.

Thanks again so much for the ask!

[deathbirby]

I think you should be cancelled and harassed for that bald rhea post period tbh.

Ok jokes aside- man these people really do suck, huh. I can’t tell you the number of times over the years I’ve made posts about not liking Edelgard/analyzing the text in ways her fans don’t like/etc and got swarmed by her stans arguing in bad faith at best and telling me to kms or threatening me at worst. Over video game discourse.

Meanwhile all I’ve seen you do is personally complain on your own blog about takes you see that you disagree with? And when you bring people up it’s always because they were doing some wack shit like sharing screenshots with uncensored usernames or block evading? Again I just don’t know what reality these people live in but it’s so fucking annoying and the reason why I stay on anon lol.

(Rant time) There’s just no winning with these folks seeing as they’re pretty much just bullies at this point deflecting their own (or at least people in their circle’s) behavior back on the people just trying to talk about the game and mind their own damn business. It’s really not that hard to see a take you disagree with and just block and move on, it’s so easy and I do it all the time. It’s hard to want to genuinely interact with ANYONE pro-cf/Edelgard/etc when I’ve been burned so many times by people jumping to call me vile things because I dared share a reading of the text different than the ones they personally project onto the game. Even just saying “I like Rhea and don’t think she’s nearly as bad as people make her out to be” is some sort of cause for freaking the fuck out and harassing people which just. *Head in hands* UGH. Anyway rant over. I know you just laugh at them at this point (and good on you for that) but I’m still so sorry you have to deal with these ppl, truly could not be me.

~⭐️

My notifications only showed the "I think you should be harassed for..." and I had my hazmat suit ready.

Bald Rhea is beautiful wdym?

Jesus christ. You were told to kill yourself?? And getting threats? Dude I am so sorry you had to go through that. I said it before but don't worry about sending asks if this is the only way you can get it out of your system.

At best I've clowned on people who reblogged my posts to start shit. Or someone who tried to start shit with a mutual and I was out of fucks to give at that point. But they don't specify who and what we're talking about, so I'm left guessing.

I believe a certain person had previously stated that tumblr is public and that they have the right to correct any misunderstanding and set things straight or whatever. Which is fucking pathetic. I have come across people who fucking gutted canon and I just blocked them. Like you said, it is not that hard.

Then again, they also said that any attack on Edelgard is a personal attack (unironically), so there really is no winning. Nothing you say will change anything because they will keep seeing it as an attack on their character.

Thanks anon. It's kinda tiring at this point. I want to have an honest discussion with people, but I was banned from the edelgard server, and now people are deleting their accounts (lol why) instead of talking to me directly.

Still funny tho when they get mad and call me toxic or sexist or whatever because I respond with shitposts to their serious "debates."

[elvenbeard]

I read your post about headcanons about Kerry's sexuality, and I totally agree with what you said about headcanons not taking away from representation, but I'm curious what your view are on mods that change a character's sexuality so anyone can romance them? I know there is, or at least used to be, quite a bit of debate around that. You don't have to answer if you don't want to, I'd hate to start any discourse drama on your blog. I'm just curious because I'm not even sure where I stand on the matter, and have been back and forth on it for a long time.

It's all good nonny! I have been asking myself that lately tbh, and I know I've been back and forth on it myself, too.

In this moment in time, I am completely indifferent on the existence of mods that do stuff like that. I don't condone or like them, but I'm not gonna do anything about them either. I know years ago in the Dragon Age fandom there was huge discourse and drama around a mod that made Dorian (canonically gay, his whole character arc revolves around that fact, just in case you're not into that series) available to be romanced by a female Inquisitor. And back then I was absolutely livid. Dorian was (and still is) one of my fave characters in the DA universe. And honestly, I couldn't even tell you now if anything ever came off of that whole drama (but I doubt it, cause it rarely does) - that's how pointless Internet drama really is. In the worst case, the person who made that mod got driven out of fandom entirely and now has negative associations with the queer community as a whole.

Do I think that mods that change a queer character's canon orientation are amazing? No, not really, and most of the time, especially in Dorian's case, they make no sense at all for the characters' arcs. I personally would never wanna play them and I'd also rather not know why some people make them.

(I'm completely biased here btw, because I do not feel as negatively about mods that change a canonically straight character's orientation to something queer. Simply because I'm queer and greedy for more representation, because there cannot be enough XD Does that make me a hypocrite to some people? Maybe, but honestly, I don't really care. And as I said in my post, and as you mentioned, even the "straight mods" do not take away from any queer representation that canonically exists.)

The thing is, me and others screaming and yelling about "straight mods" (or "bi mods" for characters that are explicitly gay/lesbian) is not gonna change a thing, mods like that are always gonna exist. Content I don't agree with is always something I can come across at random, and I keep finding new things that make me go "nope!" regularly. And even if I'm not screaming and yelling, and instead try to be reasonable, talk objectively with the mod makers as for xyz reasons their mod is not good in my eyes... I'm too old for that shit XD I'd rather use my energy and limited time to make a lot of gay stuff featuring my favourite queer blorbos instead of arguing with strangers why a straight!Dorian or bi!Judy or straight/bi!whoever mod is bad. Fandom should be a hobby, not activism, and you can go about fighting homophobia in a lot better ways than arguing about who certain pixel people would like to bone or not.

I wish there were - or maybe there are and I haven't figured it out yet - ways to filter stuff I don't wanna see on Nexus for example like there are on tumblr, ao3, any other social media site with a good tagging system and means to block tags or phrases or users. Curating your own experience and finding people who share your interests is so important and has really improved my time in fandom a lot over the last years. And it's good to have friends you can rant to about stupid things that upset you in private, definitely XD

So, on that note, ship whoever you wanna ship in this context, but tag it so that people who don't wanna see it can avoid it and don't get mad. Also sorry this got long and slightly off topic, I'm a chronic rambler.

(also, if anything's unclear, feel free to reach out again! sometimes I don't express myself as well as I think I do XD)

[terrence-silver]

This is going to be a bit of a rant but I don’t think s6 of ck is going to be that good or at least to me. Maybe it’s just me focusing on the bad parts of the show and im wrong but the writing is just so bad and not logical because of the double standards. Like when terry got arrested for assault and probably witness tampering but Johnny, chozen, and mike who basically broke in and trespassed on private property didn’t face any legal repercussions or even a misdemeanor. Also when Daniel and the students who broke into the dojo and a fight was started and caused property damage, nothing happens. Even Daniel’s house got broken into by kids and again there’s destroyed property and it’s just brushed off like there’s been 3 break-ins and nothing happens. Also im not that familiar with the law especially because it differentiates in states and I never been to CA but I think terry would have the right to defend himself if they started an altercation because he protecting himself and property. I might be recounting the events in the show wrong I don’t really remember who started what so if I’m wrong I do apologize. But honestly, I’m lowkey surprised by how high the ratings are because I feel like half of the scenes are again bad, like all the love triangles or the making out scenes, also putting the few women in the show against each other like it’s just so unnecessary 💀

And i don’t wanna seem like I’m hating on shit just for the fun of it because i do genuinely enjoy the John/terry and Daniel/johnny duo and johnny’s character and even the scene of terry teaching Kenny the one move the silver bullet I think? but i understand why some people don’t like the show.

But idk maybe terry would filed charges against them because he’s mad or something, terry might even go to jail or just spend time overnight in a cell or idk just get bailed out. There still could be some potential. Sorry for the rant

No, you're right. And you should say it.

And in fact, it should be said constantly.

Precisely because the show has such high ratings and literally no critique against it.

Daniel Larusso and co. have an unrealistic amount of plotshield guarding them to the point it just takes you out of the show if you leave your brain on for too long, rendering the story into something that lacks any actual stakes even in an homage to soapy 80's nostalgia kind of show, because you know for a fact that everything questionable or outright bad the heroes do will be overlooked, either by the law in the story's universe, or the narrative itself or even other characters, rendering the protagonists fairly unlikeable, if we're honest, because at this point, no, I don't think Daniel's dojo's, Johnny's dojo or anyone else's dojo have any more right to 'take over the Valley' than Terry's. The Valley doesn't belong to Daniel and it isn't his backyard, no. And why should it be? Honestly, why? Everyone in this story is wrong in their own way. One gets the impression that morality is whatever the show wants it to be depending of which character it is bent on justifying.

As for the women, don't even get me started.

Entire needless discourse wars have been fought over female characters (and love triangles) that would've been considered underdeveloped, vapid and badly written even by 80's standards.

[franki-lew-yo]

Is it okay if I think this can apply just as often to "critical" fandom as well?

If I may, I don't think the problem is that people who dislike stuff are always seeking it out. Like regular fandom, ppl stumble upon a take that gets them peeved and they are allowed to be peeved and angry, you know? They deserve to mingle w likeminded people, sometimes within the same fandom no less as the one they are 'hating on' (i.e. in, but mad at sometimes because the fandom's Monster High and goddamnit Monster High why do you do this to me?). As with regular fandom, people have a tendency to get carried away in their passion+ subscribe to a "works for me not for thee" mentality.

What I mean is if you hate Reylo for valid reasons and don't want Reylo near you; don't search through the Reylo tag and maybe also mute the word and block the tag like op says. I know some people don't want to call it this, but it's a trigger. Especially for emotional people, it's a simple thing that sets you off and gets you heated. You're allowed to be human once in awhile though when the time gets to you and you just have to rant about how Reylo ruined everything cuz it did. Just maybe tag it #Reylocritical instead. I agree, fandom is about enjoying things, but healthy criticism is a part of fandom too - it should be shared by fans as well as 'detractors. Making a tag for people to just vent I think is fine and away from the good-faith actors who you know did nothing wrong but you can still dislike the thing they like.

Meanwhile, if someone comes up to you in the #critical tag and berates you about how you're abusing them for hating their thing even though you're doing so away from them and giving them their space...that's on them. Just like you -potential I guess 'anti'?? fan or whatever who's reading this- if you aren't going up and being a controlling abusive jerk abt your opinion as the one true take, you shouldn't be judged as that kind of person either or accused of 'abuse' w you meerly didn't like a thing they liked.

Sorry op and the people in the comments+ if this reblog itself was argumentative. I can always just repost this as a separate thing, not a reblog. I do subscribe to this belief I just also think it works in both ways. As a very emotional person, knowing and avoiding tags matters so goddamn much to me. I try to use it as much as I can. Also why I try to tag everything that's more of a negative review with 'critical','discourse', ect.

Modern fandom went awry when people stopped learning how to avoid content that upsets them and instead starting actively seeking it out.

I mean this in the kindest, most loving way possible, but babes you'll be so much happy when you stop focusing on what other people are doing and instead focus on what you like.

You'll never be able to stop people from liking what you hate, and the best way you'll find any peace of mind is properly utilizing blocking, blacklisting, and muting tools. Take it from someone who used to run a shipping discourse blog, fandom is supposed to be what you enjoy, stop focusing on things that upset you.

[quinloki]

sorry if this is too strange to send, but I would just like some advice. feel free to delete this if you want, no hard feelings at all ❤️

I have two male OCs that are in a relationship, I wanna post some stuff for them but I always feel guilty because I worry that I am fetishizing mlm relationships? idk how to get rid of the shame when it comes to them especially because one of them deals with internalized homophobia and has a thing for cross dressing? I just don't wanna accidentally hurt people I suppose

My TL;DR advice is: Don't sweat it, write what you want to write for them, and try to break free from the shame.

If you want more details you can read below the cut <3

On a longer note, "fetishizing" mm/ff/etc. was a thing that started a while back, and more than not I've only EVER seen it used as a cover for purity culture bs, and specifically to shame people into staying away from things in a very nasty, very useless style of gate keeping.

Look, in fantasy, you do what you want, and explore what you want, and sometimes you are gonna get it wrong, and if you share it then sometimes you are going to cause other folks discomfort.

That's life baby.

You are not going to be able to tag, summarize, or forewarn perfectly enough to avoid it completely. And you should not have to, frankly.

I personally loathe the whole "Oh you're just fetishizing that" with a deep DEEP passion, because the mindset stopped me from doing any exploring for myself. I was ashamed that the kind of body I wanted, that I felt would be the most comfortable for me, because it was something people were screaming was just festishization of "proper trans people." (which is code for cis-passing)

So frankly, until someone can show me an actual case of it, it's a red-flag word to me, and I don't pay it any mind. It's honestly the only thing that pisses me off more than the whole stupid ass proship/antiship discourse.

And I want to be clear - in Reality there are most CERTAINLY people who have twisted and skewed views of all manner of things. But we're talking about fantasy and writing right now.

Art is for exploring.

And if someone comes in and say "This is X" then just ask them to explain why. You'll either realize they're feeding you a load of shit, OR you'll learn something and be able to adjust things better going forward.

But also, cherry on top of my rant - THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT WORD MEANS.

😡💢

but I'm not mad at you anon, just the crap surrounding it.

Anyway, label it right, and do your best.

And don't let people convince you that drama and tropes are fetishizing. As long as you're not trying to make like, gay guys you come across in real life perform for you, you're not fetishizing.

[witchofthevale]

You don't know why people send hate? Because they want to make others mad. On Twitter, if 1 year ago you said you were team green, you'd have 20+ people calling you slurs just because of it. For your preference, opinion, taste that DOESN'T HURT anyone. It happened on Tumblr too. Ask greenies and they'll tekk you. So why people can't mind their own business and stop willingly search for certain tags to see people expressing their opinion only for them to go full rampage mode because soemone expressed different preference? hotd fandom is the most toxic fandom I've ever been so whole idea of fandom being escapism, safe space to enjoy something is wishful thinking at this point. Why is that? 2 teams on the narrative of the show which would make people pick one side over another + polarising portrayal of team Black and team Green which speaks to black and white us against them way of thinking + general audience's age + immaturity of majority of people in this fandom. Sorry but this fandom was doomed from the start. What I mean is better for peace of mind to have smaller group of people to interact with when you know no one will attack you because your opinions are the same than try to make friends with people who might insult you whenever they want because your tastes are sometimes different. The truth is if someone wants to send hate their excuse could be anything you said. Now people are throwing slurs or rape/murder/anything apologist without understanding what it means. Our past in this fandom is different. Doing things for my mental health is my top priority. I don't know why you assume I've blocked 90% of fandom when it's maybe 50% but I guess after getting death threats I don't care about being liked by everyone. What I won't accept is behaving like a 3 years old just because I don't like Rhae Rhae and throwing a tantrum rectifying all kinds of slurs. It's good no one attacked you before. You're lucky because it's rare in this fandom on here or Twitter. I hope you won't deal with immature people sending you death threats and insults because you don't like x character. You still are enthusiastic about this fandom and I hope you won't have people attacking you when season 2 airs. I wish I was as enthusiastic though.

Damn ok, I'm sorry if I come off as flouncy or as if I didn't care about all the toxicity in the fandom. I'm usually not so careless, but I guess replying at 3am with melatonin pills already kicking in had been my fault.

First off, I do know why people send hate. I went off on it as more the energy you have to bring up to purposefully be an asshole and not have the guts to even put on a face or a name to. Out of all the mindful things you do in your day to day, sending someone a nasty, fucked up message as if nobody taught you any manners, is the most mind boggling. To me at least.

Im also sorry that your experience has been horrible since the start, I guess since this has been my fourth fandom I've actively joined in— written for, made an account for — I've learned which energy I devote to as out of all the fandoms I've been, this definitely takes the cake as the most toxic. I've been aware of how toxic this fandom is since last year, my best friend having been a devoted ASOIAF fan who read F&B like the bible (lol), she's exposed the gory bits of the team green vs team black discourse to me. Neither of us have engaged and I almost didn't watch the show because of that (and how much she ranted about the many changes, foremost, the mess of the ages).

Blocking is one hundred percent better for your mental health if you've had this much of a horrible experience, especially if you're keen to stay. It's truly the only way you'll survive through it. I don't block others based on not sharing the same opinions as I do , but I have blocked some who not only don't share my opinions, but say it in an aggressively ugly way.

Dunno if I've missed anymore points, I can tell this is important for you to explain to me so I wanted to reply as fast as I can. I'll be too busy the rest of the day otherwise. If I've missed anymore, please feel free to tell me.

I guess I didn't realize this was such a heavy topic for you as I felt the earlier one was sent pretty out of the blue as I didn't know where the reply initially came from, and I replied too lackadaisy.

[reineyday]

every day i go into the billy hargrove tag is another day closer to the day i post some sort of billy hargrove defense essay

[bitchslapblastoids]

I know I’m preaching to the choir here by posting this on tumblr and have ranted about this before but… I’m back on my soapbox to yell again about the fact that Dan and Phil are adult men who simply aren't affected by us on this minute scale the way phantwt seems to think they are. D&P are in control of their careers, they have an abundantly clear-eyed understanding of their own audience, and they draw lines and boundaries when and where they see fit.

We as a phandom didn’t like… scare them away and then earn their trust back. They made a personal choice to pull back from the public eye and pursue separate ventures for reasons they’ve been pretty direct and outspoken about. Those reasons have not included being spooked by their fan base or wanting to teach us a lesson. From how I understand it, they’ve decided to resume joint content and re-enter the public eye as a duo bc they’ve done the personal growth they needed to do, tackled successful solo projects, and also probably bc it’s lucrative as fuck, let’s be real. They didn’t retreat bc we were on bad behavior and then return bc we’d proven we can be good little phannies who better keep it up or else they’ll take it all away again. I haaaaate that narrative, it’s so juvenile and honestly feels kind of narcissistic by inflating our role in their decision making. And idk if these people are actually kids or what, but jesus christ can fandom not become a police state? On that note…

I’ve seen the tweets turning this one account that tweeted 3 tweets of (pretty tame) d&p smut into this really dark, much more complex violation of morals by implying that bc minors are on twitter, it’s wrong for them (an account who from my understanding literally had "18+" in their bio) to have posted sexual content. Ppl have then weaponized and furthered the idea that a user is like… a sex offender if they tweet something about d&p’s sex life, bc a minor might see it. That seems batshit to me....

Dan and Phil themselves are literally talking about sex in Every. Single. Video. at this point. They know that minors follow them. Does that make Dan and Phil morally reproachable sex offenders?? Honestly a very spooky direction to take the discourse….

There is absolutely something to be said for making a disclaimer about sexual content with a nsfw note or something. That way people aren’t just confronted with sexual content w/o knowledge of what they’re about to see/read, and minors are kept safe. What alarms me though is that people on twitter initially start going after a user out of some sense of vigilantism, protecting Dan and Phil, and keeping the phandom a clean and tidy space so that we don’t make daddies mad again. They then as an afterthought seem to fold in a much more severe point, which in this case was the argument about minors encountering nsfw content on twitter, and then run with that at full force because they've found the strongest accusation they can levy against someone, and telling someone they're a sicko holds much more weight than saying "don't sexualize d&p, it might make them uncomfortable" (need we remind ourselves of dan's extensive bit in WAD about wanting to suck harry styles' cock?)

anyway. i hope this made sense. obviously this is all oversimplifying a very complex set of issues, and there are nuances to sexualizing famous personalities as well as much nuance to how to keep the internet/fandom space a safe space for minors. i'm sorry for the tangent.

the fact that there’s drama on dnptwt rn about someone i guess writing smut of them and everyone jumping up to disavow that as creepy vs last night everyone on tumblr shamefully shaking their head that there wasn’t enough porn being drawn of them these days to meet mommy daniel‘s expectations

[olderthannetfic]

I'm in a very problematic fandom. The fanbase as a whole is awfully toxic in many ways in and outside of Tumblr.

I just. Feel so frustrated because I joined this fandom on here, Tumblr, expecting to simply exchange ideas, headcanons and make those rb additions in the form of artworks, funny additions etc. or even experience the 'why would you hide this in the tags' thing. The appeal of Tumblr to me was the way fans can interact with each other in such fun ways.

But then, not even a year of joining, I have to see antis, purity culture, the problematic-things discourses, which ship is bad and why (although when analyzed properly literally every ships are problematic in this fandom) and then, some people get popular and are well-received for being brave speaking about the 'problematic stuff' like all of these got soooooo bad and loud during that time and it just, went downhill from there on.

Breaks my heart every time I remember the state of my fandom because I have seen literally everyone breaking up with each other, even I myself have been cornered (although not directly mentioned, the implication is pretty obvious though) into making decisions of whom I want to stay friends/mutuals with and it's driving me insane because I've dealt with all these crap in real life -- though not as alike, but still a semblance to irl. And idk, maybe I have issues that makes me feel my experience on Tumblr is upsetting me so much... But seriously, I just can't deal with this fandom when every once in a while I would remember the cause and the divisions and the fights. And the one who started all that is not even in this fandom anymore. Personally, I sometimes think to myself, 'you came into this sandbox (fandom) inviting everyone else who follow you to throw sand at everyone else also in the sandbox and even kicking some out for not seeing/building the sandcastles as you guys believe they should be but now you choose to leave this sandbox with all the sand already everywhere?'. Sometimes I feel mad about it, sometimes I'm just, 'meh. This is life, things happen.'

Before I raise concern because of how tired I sound over being in here and in this fandom, hereby I clarify that yes xD I have a life outside of Tumblr, I am good with what I do outside of Tumblr. But God, it still just hurts to see and remember all this. I try to leave Tumblr sometimes, refusing to be active on here anymore but, there are no social platforms much like Tumblr. Where I can filter content and block and stuff I don't want. Sigh. Hellsite (affectionate).

Despite all that, I still refuse to leave this fandom. It's a huge one, I can still find a corner for myself. So at the very least, there's that... I am trying my hardest to just turn the other way whenever drama and discourse finds its way to my dash...but sometimes the urge to jump in is just so strong. I don't engage with them most of the time.

But if anything. I just wanna say these few things.

Racism is not the only issue in this world.

POCs can be racist too. Not just white people. There's no such thing as 'reverse racism' because racism is... racism. I live in a state where all of us are POCs though with different ethnicities, so I have learned to recognize extremists. These extremists would call 'racist! racism!' on literally anything without considering the whole issue/picture. And frankly, that is what I see is going on in my fandom. Maybe the other fandoms as well but I don't go to other fandoms as often.

That's all. If there are any other insights/perspectives to what this is, I'm all ears. I crave to hear other insights. And if I sound like I need help, I am working on that!

Sorry for this long rant. But thank you for allowing this (if you do). I just, have no idea how to get all this out anymore.

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