#sorry about Ochako

[nuravity]

Personal Problem Meme: This is also a question to Ochako. How do you handle expressing the negative sides of yourself? Like, you're well known for being open minded, but you have tendencies to be close minded. Most people tend to have a negative trait to their positive trait that reflects each other.

Send a personal problem on anon and my muse will answer

Ochako pouted at first and turned her head to the side, wondering if she really had this trait in her but for the sake of the question, she tried to give an answer. "I...don't know actually. I think, it's just about trying to realize that expressing them is the first step of accepting them and possibly making them less prominent. But I don't think I could speak for myself because, well..." she trailed off.

"...I don't like thinking about them at all? Oh, look at the time! I've got a training session with Aizawa sensei!" And then she was off!

[cupcakegal25]

more mha and @dear-ao3 but it's mostly shouto this time

[angy-grrr]

daily reminder: Ochako had to make herself physically see the damage the villains and war created in order to forget the uneasy feeling she got when Himiko smiled sadly (+ all the things she thought when she saw her). She cant forget what she has done (because she doesnt like the destruction), but that doesnt mean she cant forgive her or that made her feel distance from her.

Izuku can't forgive what Shigaraki has done, and as far as we know, he doesn't need to remind himself of the pain; his empathy doesn't make him feel weird about reaching out to a villain, at least on its own.

Its not a copy paste of the same battle or story.

Himiko and Izuku make Ochako wonder about the concept of heroism and saving, the roles heroes and villains have, and they also have an impact on her behavior, ideals, and feelings for them and herself. Shigaraki's fate and the world around Izuku seems to make him wonder about his role as a savior, because he doesnt feel like he fulfilled it really, when it ended up with someone else dying. He finds in Ochako someone who would agree on ideals about saving others, and thats great on its own.

[rose-void-789]

Okay but the biggest thing for me that has always kept me from liking Izuocha is that I come from fairytail. I know shonen romance isn't boring. I know what it's like to see the two main leads love and fight and admire each other. And that's the thing that I always wanted for Ochako. I wanted badly for her to have what Lucy has.

And I did ship them at first because they were cute and I thought oh the hero name. The helping Deku win his entrance exam. Her having her own goals. Being broke the friendship. it seemed so much like Nalu. Better too because I could see Izuku blushing at her too.

And then someone says something about twin stars. About Izuku and Bakugou being intertwined. About win to save save to win. And then I see the second movie and my mind explodes. I reread the manga and realize what Katsuki did. Izuku was always pushing chasing looking at him. And that wasn't to say that izuocha couldn't happen but that interconnection I saw with Nalu wasn't it more with bkdk. And it kept getting worse. Ochako kept getting sidelined to better explore the relationship between Izuku and Bakugou.

Izuku never looked at her like she did him. Never thought about her like she did him. A blush or two wr got at most. But Ochako whole character started to soley revolved around her feelings towards him. She was the only one carrying the romance plot.

Mha isn't a show about romance but neither is Fairytail. And yet Lucy never got sideline in fact even with all the stuff on Zeref and Gray Lucy found herself interconnected to Natsu through her own bloodline. And they always had moments ones where he's scared of her getting hurt, of catching her from falling, of going berserk because he thought she died, of protecting her, of finishing a big villan off together, of being on missions together. Hell when he ran away shes the one that found him. When Izuku ran away bakugou found him. When Ochako was in danger Tsyu was there or any number of other heros, when she almost died Toga held her safely. Nalu gave me such a high expectation for shonen romance and female leads. So of course it's so frustrating seeing people call the obvious love intest boring when it can be anything that. To act like the female lead has to carry the romance plot and contribute nothing else. That the male lead can just walzt up to the that stupid clif and say that he loves her and that he always has when it was only ever iluded that he even thought that much about her in the last half of the war. And for her to so easily accept because when her whole arc is about her feelings for the guy isn't it only fair that they end up together.

Where is the interconnectivity, the care from him. Where is him looking at her the same way she looks up to him. How is the fanservice show better at writing a strong heroen! A strong partnership!

I'm so tried. I'm so sorry to everyone that's watch shonen and are expecting this out of female characters. That it's typical for the romance plot to be given to the girl and the big moments where I seen love intrest shine are given to the "rival." Ochako deserves better.

[jade-of-mourning]

i still yearn to bear my fangs at you again, as i knew how

[beanghostprincess]

I swear if Deku confesses his love for Ochako out of fucking nowhere while she's actively having a breakdown over Toga I will commit a hate crime

[d00dlef0x]

As someone who really only see stuff about mha from the sidelines they did toga DIRTY, from what i understand the narrative with the war arc was how villains can be redeemed but then the creator just, killed the redeemable villains??? In favor of an izu//cho moment??? What????? I mean i knew the creator wasnt the best at writing ochako but god damn that really sucks. Also from what ive heard people have literally survived crazier shit in this manga, from bakugou literally having his whole heart being destroyed to someone who exploded from the inside twice; but nah toga dies from giving ochako her blood like yeah ok totally makes sense and is more insane than any other character (almost) death 👍 (that is sarcasm btw)

Ill join the group of people who still believe togas alive because that honestly seems more plausible than believing that the creator would just pull a “shes dead so now ochako and izuku can get together”. Also if you want a story that doesnt end with doomed yuri go watch gundam witch!! Its really good and you dont even need to know anything gundam to watch it, i know you toga stans will like a certain character named sophie for sure lol

[siflshonen]

Y’all’re all just upset that Katsuki Bakugo somehow managed to get even cuter than he already was. That’s all this is.

[remynotthemouse]

the way I reimagined bnha in my head from the start of the war until the epilogue was sooo beautiful. It’s what everyone would’ve wanted, truly<3

[trashformha]

Mha team-up missions cover 37

[angy-grrr]

oh I hate, hate, HATE how some mlw shippers act like they are targeted and oppressed; I hate hate HATE canon!izu///ocha because I genuinely believe it’s harmful for the characters (yes, it does reduce her to a love interest as her character would get fulfilled only by confessing and dating him, instead of accepting her feelings and guilt/mourning for not saving Himiko and still work into reach out to others; it reduces their whole story into “love this boy” and it’s disrespectful towards them as if she is a better girl, an actual good one that deserves to be dating the guy they both like; it would ignore the weirdness Ochako felt when she was liking him, and how the only times she was able to not feel something negative towards it was when she was admiring something heroic/cool he was doing; it literally sends the message of the story not being over unless girl and boy date, even if girl and boy never wanted to get closer to each other like that; it ignores Ochako’s heroism, it ignores her drive to be a better hero and how her storyline is about accepting her own negative emotions without isolating herself, to be able to rely on others like Izuku and Tsuyu; if this ends with them dating, it means her story was about accepting to learn that her heroic actions that involve him, like saving him, aren’t actually heroic, just romantic, and to accept that her greatest heroism is just her liking him; this was never about her needing to confess but about being envy of him and Himiko for showing their faces more than her, for feeling like she is so far behind and not wanting to bother others with her sadness. It would mean her story can’t end accepting her feelings and choosing to stay single/not dating him, it would mean Izuku’s story can’t end without getting a girl just because she likes him even tho we clearly see he doesn’t think about romance when he’s with her or tries to support her, there’s no togetherness about them but a common objective and goal to support others, and I think that’s way better than girl and boy get married; it would literally mean Ochako’s heroism is based on her love for him, not her having the heart of the hero too when the point is she is like him, helping everyone and putting everyone else over themselves).

[inkykeiji]

clariiiii😭

I'm so distraught over everything w ochako and himiko... ik that's not rlly your thing on this blog or anything but godddd I'm unwell over it n I don't have anybody irl to talk to about bnha except my bf (who does NOT agree w me on most points regarding this anime unforch)

it's been years since I shipped something like this instead of passively consuming the base content (or self-shipping) and good lord has it fucked me up. my girlies deserve better. I am in love with them and their hurt and their care for each other and I want to cry over it.

— 🐝

honeybee babie!! oh honeybun i am so so sorry :(( honestly i think that like,,, 98% of bnha fans are seriously upset/disappointed with the ending(s) their favourite characters got. i know i am!!! but what makes toga’s ending in particular even worse is that like;;; genuinely imo if any one member of the league deserved to live, it was her. i’ve had this discussion in depth with a friend but we both believe toga had the best chance at actual redemption. she was so young and so misunderstood and it really seemed like ochako had broken through to her!!! she could’ve been rehabilitated!!! ugh!!!!!!!!!!!

your girlies 100% deserved better, and so did tomura, and touya, and like literally everyone else. the way bnha is ending is so unsatisfactory ://

[uravityxo]

𝙏𝙊𝙍𝙐𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙆𝙊 ; pt one headcanons … # 𝙄𝙍𝙄𝘿𝙀𝙎𝙃𝙀𝙍𝙊𝙀𝙎

✩ ⸺ space girl , frances forever is 100% their bop. ochako is her lil space girl!

✩ ⸺ at first ochako was SO SHY to admit her feelings towards toru... but it was very, very obvious to anyone looking in! eventually she built up the courage to start 'showing' her feelings more! ochako eventually started giving toru flowers with little notes attached. she would tend to go out to handpick the flowers for her too!

✩ ⸺ even before toru managed to become visible, ochako just knew that toru was the prettiest girl that she'd ever lay her eyes upon. and when she managed to see her face for the first time... she fell even harder. tears followed and lots of compliments.

✩ ⸺ ochako compares toru to a 'a piece of art' all the time. her hair? a work of ART! her face? a work of ART! she could stare at toru forever... and ochako would love to learn to be an artist just so she could paint her.

✩ ⸺ sleepovers. thats her favourite way to spend time with toru... grab some blankets, snacks and a movie? or even just the late night talks she has with toru. but theres something about the cuddles they have whilst their favourite movie is on that nothing else can beat.

✩ ⸺ they are the queens of sweet stuff. ochako can't cook to save her life. however she learnt to bake for two reasons. one; so she bake with toru as she knows toru loves to bake too. two; so she can surprise toru with tasty treats as she knows toru has the sweetest tooth!

pspspsps @iridesheros / fio lemme give you BIGGG smoochems,,, i love ur hagakure so so so SOOOO much,, your portrayal and the way you write her?? *chefs kiss* !! just the way you capture who she is through texts ?? like,, i couldn't imagine her typing any other way !! but also?? your jirou... oh boy !!! your jirou is just as incredible and i cant wait to start up denki blog more so the two bbys can interact more !! one last thing... YOU !! you are incredible... a good, kind person who i really enjoy talking to.. you make my day whenever i get a message from you !! our chats are so fun and i just.. enjoy vibin, plottin and talkin with you bout everything and anything !!

[problemswithbooks]

God can hori be any more heavy handed with the "DONT YOU WANT TO BE NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL" bestie, shes drinking other kids blood, thats not just "not normal". This weird retcon thing is annoying, Idk why hed bother putting her backstory in when he didnt give much of a shit about it 😭

The thing is, I actually don't think trying to say Toga's blood drinking is normal is necessarily bad or something that can't be done well. Quirks are a major part of the world and the story overall--it's not that far fetched that blood drinking might be a normal thing a person with a Quirk would want to do. If people can accept people that can make explosions which could also be dangerous to kids and people (and very much was for Izuku) then it's not a huge stretch to accept that blood drinking for Toga is normal and she should be accepted as such.

The issue is that Hori didn't really make that the issue. I don't think he really sees it himself given how he wrote Mineta, but Toga's main problem and why shes not accepted is a matter of consent not because she's seen as a creep.

This is why her backstory doesn't work very well, besides the fact it's way to late and very short. Yes, her parents freak out about her Quirk and obsession with blood. The problem is that they don't freak out for zero reason and are the only ones who reject her.

No child should be drinking the blood of birds. Whether she killed it or not, birds carry many diseases and parasites harmful to people. Her father shouldn't have hit her (because, I guess he did even though it's poorly conveyed), but the shock given what she's doing is understandable. Especially if they think she killed it (which is weird, and suggests she might have done something they found disturbing before this or were bad parents regardless of her Quirk).

Then they yell at her because she's biting her finger bloody. That's self harm and something you would want to send a child to therapy for. Sure, the counselor didn't help, but it's not like they can give Toga what she wants.

That's hammered home when they yell at her again when she drinks another kids blood. Hori messes up and doesn't show us what happens so we don't know if she hurt this other kid, or if they were scared of her or if they were fine with it.

Just giving us a look at her parents reaction doesn't give us any idea how she was seen by her peers. Because of that it's hard to make the case that she was only rejected for her Quirk alone, rather then her actions. In fact the only time we see other students they say she was popular and well liked until she attacked a boy in the class.

Given how young she looks when her parents yell at her for sucking another kids blood, and the fact she fled school after she attacked her crush, it appears these were separate events. If that was the case people in her school might have already heard about her sucking a kids blood earlier, and clearly not cared. In the very least we have to assume they knew her Quirk involved blood because Hori doesn't make any suggestion that it was hidden.

And that's why the theme of acceptance and Toga being normal because blood drinking is a part of her falls flat. No one ever said shit about her Quirk ever, except for her parents in sparse flashbacks. Ochako never thinks her blood drinking is gross nor do any of the the other Heroes or class 1A students. Hell, Tenya doesn't even bad mouth Stain for drinking blood even though he hated the guy so much he wanted him dead. This doesn't make it seem like the world rejected her for her Quirk.

No, the entire problem is that Toga doesn't understand consent or boundaries. We never see her ever ask anyone, even as a kid if she can drink their blood (that would have been a better scene then her drinking birds blood imho) and get rejected and told off and bullied/ostracized for her desire. Which if that did happen would explain why she never asks again and feels no one will accept her.

And, you could blame her parents and the therapist for this, but I'd just wager Hori doesn't really grasp that consent is the issue here. Mainly because Ochako never addresses it in anyway, even though she does bring up Toga's crimes. She offers her blood to Toga for life, but does not say that difference between Toga drinking her blood as opposed to anyone else's is because she is giving permission.

In the end Toga doesn't learn anything and just gets what she wanted given to her. Maybe Hori will address this next chapter but it really should have been brought up sooner. That or he should have had Toga actually not be accepted what-so-ever and shunned by all her peers for her Quirk even before she attacked her crush.

And this is part of the reason I really don't like the queer reading of the chapter is because by doing so it is suggesting that queer people are dangerous. If we read Toga's blood drinking as the same as kissing--which she seems to say (though her expression while drinking blood suggests something more...problematic) then she has been going around kissing people against their will to fulfill her own needs. If we read this as queer, is the story not saying that repressed gay people will sexually harass people because they can't understand consent when they inevitably snap?

I'm not saying this was or is Hori's intent. I think it's pretty clear he just didn't see how big an issue of consent there was with Toga and her Quirk. He wanted it to be all about how she wasn't accepted as normal, but didn't put in the work of showcasing that well. He has a lousy track record with female characters getting way less attention and with his rush to finish on top of that, Ochako and Toga got screwed with a half baked climax. Unfortunately that's also left it with less then great implications if you think about it for a coupe of minutes.

[hermesdoesthings]

MHA ANIME 6x14 SPOILERS!!!

I cannot imagine what is going through ochako's head in this moment

Like imagine you're in her place: you're 15, just fought alongside pro-heroes who have years and YEARS of experience under their belt. You have half a years worth of training and a few months of work-study experience.

During the aftermath of the battle you're trying to rescue everyone but there's too many people. You're trying your best but buildings are collapsing every second and you can only save so many people. But you're still there trying.

You have no idea what the status is on your friends, your classmates, your teachers. You have no idea if they're injured or even alive at this point, but you're hoping for the best and keep going.

You're tired. You're scared. But you're still going.

Despite all of this, you see another hero stop, a hero who EASILY has 5-10 years of pro work behind them, stop and essentially give up while there's still people you're trying to save.

LIKE