#socioeconomic politics

[politijohn]

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[hadesoftheladies]

the problem isn't just women and girls losing abortion rights. it's the fact that men and boys still have more political influence. that has consistently spelled bad things for human societies. men and boys are most likely to vote for harmful policies to other human beings and the environment. they are the LEAST connected to and educated on socioeconomic matters (because of their privilege) and have no incentive nor credentials to lead. they don't even understand the problems (if them taking the fraudulent "male loneliness epidemic" seriously is anything to go by) and giving them more political influence is like placing a tripped out toddler in the driver's seat with millions of people more qualified and educated in the backseat.

these men don't know what goes on in their homes, how to run houses, what their children's birthdays are, and you think they'll know what medical aid even looks like? they don't even book their own children's doctor's appointments. they are the LEAST educated on societal infrastructure they don't know ANYTHING about how a society runs or keeps running and you want to give them more political influence/administrative power?!

FUCKIGN DUMB!

[travelingtwentysomething]

You know what's funny? The minute people start aiming higher and taking out the powerful and wealthy and "elite", they're going to change the gun laws. Because their goal has always been for us to stay fighting each other instead of looking towards them as the real threat to our life, liberty, and freedom.

[anghraine]

I'm trying to redirect my political thoughts from my fandom escape blog again, but I found something interesting enough that I thought I'd talk a little about it.

Occasionally I choose suffering (looking at the more granular 2024 exit poll breakdowns rather than the summaries that I mostly don't trust much at this point). Anyway, I did find something intriguing, if not particularly surprising, in the CNN exit polls, which were done in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin with a sample size of 22,914 voters.

(I mention the specific states forming the sample because this pretty notably excludes any blue states while including some reliably Republican ones.)

Anyway, most exit polls including CNN's let respondents identify their place on the US political spectrum: conservative, moderate, or liberal (reminder that "liberal" in US usage can be a pejorative for "less leftist than me" but also a shorthand for "radical leftist" but also for "anyone who doesn't seek a cishet white Christian ethnostate", but also can be a more neutral synonym for progressives and/or leftists and is often used that way, as here). So you can look at the election results for each of these ideological factions and what share of the overall sample size they represent.

The interesting thing: this "liberal" category accounted for very similar proportions to 2020 of the overall vote in the sample (24% in 2020, 23% in 2024—a difference well within the margin of error of exit polling). There is no need to explain liberals/leftists staying home in 2024: at least in terms of proportions of the overall electorate, they didn't. Just under 1/4 of voters in 2024 were liberals or leftists, just as in 2020.

Okay, if the most leftwards faction of the US political spectrum actually formed a similar proportion of the electorate, then who did they vote for?

Harris. In CNN's own exit polls from 2020, 89% of this faction voted for Biden, and (surprisingly!) a full 10% voted for Trump. God knows what motivated that 10% Trump share after four years of his hellscape of an administration at the height of COVID, but in any case, that support cratered in 2024. 91% of this group voted for Harris and only 4% for Trump. It's an estimate, but it looks like these very peculiar Trump voters had enough of him in 2024 and around half either voted third party this time or for Harris.

So which faction is Trump's victory coming from? Further consolidation of the far right?

In part, yes! 90% of conservatives voted for Trump in 2024, vs 85% in 2020—likely, some conservatives who voted third party or even for Biden in 2020 came "home" this year. However, conservative turnout was actually a little down in 2024, proportionally speaking: conservatives dropped from 38% of the sample in 2020 to 34% in 2024.

But there's one more major faction in all this: "moderates" or centrists. To be clear, we're talking about the US version of centrism, given that this is a US organization polling US voters about US politicians, not "Bernie would be center-right in Denmark" or whatever. This moderate faction jumped from 38% of the overall sample in 2020 to 42% in 2024, and they swung hard towards Trump, though Harris still won a plurality of them. In 2020, 64% of moderates voted for Biden vs 34% for Trump. In 2024, 57% of them voted for Harris vs 40% for Trump—that is, the Democratic lead among centrists dropped precipitously from +30 to +17.

Tl;dr—ideologically speaking, this data suggests that Trump owes his victory to gains among both right-wing and centrist voters rather than some faction of would-be leftists or progressives apathetically staying home or voting third-party or otherwise deserting Democrats (because they're insufficiently radical or for any other reason).

Oh, and if you're curious as to how this compares to CNN's 2016 exit polls, I also checked those! Harris's 84-point lead among the most leftwards faction is a significant improvement from HRC's 74-point lead in 2016. Trump also got 10% of that group in 2016, as in 2020, so it's this campaign—not Hillary's or Biden's—that managed to eat into whatever the hell is going on with that group.

Harris's +17 with moderates is actually a slight improvement on Hillary's +12 in 2016. Biden's jump to a +30 lead among centrists in 2020 represented either a backlash against Trump from centrists, or Biden's own rapport with that group, or some mysterious issue some of those voters had with both HRC and Harris (I wonder what it could be!!), or some combination thereof. Regardless, there are a lot of actual ideologically centrist voters in the USA and not just would-be leftists who haven't heard the good news of Marx yet. And Trump has an iron grip on the right wing at this point: he beat Hillary with conservatives by +65 in 2016, then beat Biden with an even larger margin of +71, then leapt to a 81-point lead over Harris with right-wing voters this year.

[greensaplinggrace]

the darkling says “fine, make me your villain” because he is. what’s not clicking

[blackponderer]

"Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall Kimmerer (p. 375-377)

[alwaysbewoke]

[maybe-boys-do-love]

Feel how u want about it, but idk any shows that depicted contemporary gay culture as honestly as Only Friends

[blood-mocha-latte]

btw i’m not just talking about gashey there IS a fic in the works. it was supposed to be 5k and now it’s an outlined longfic you know how it is

[munnchausenzip]

Hey I saw your tags under that tiktok of the person explaining the future of a trans kid going no-contact with their bigot dad, and you were wondering about unconditional love when someone takes on an actively harmful worldview like nazism.

I don’t know that real love is truly unconditional and I don’t know that it aught to be. Respect is a big component of love, and it goes both ways. As an extreme example: if you love someone but they continually harm you and show zero remorse for it, even after being told, that’s an abusive relationship and I think the only rational choice (for self-preservation) is to cut them out of your life… Can you do that and still love them? Maybe, but I don’t know; what would that even look like? (Of course it’s a little different and more complicated if the person acting badly is a dependent 👀.)

It sounds like someone in your life is heading down a dark path, but if they turned onto that path, they can turn off it too. People generally become problematic because of deep-seated fears/insecurities. I hope someone can help that person sort through their shit and see the light.

I wish you the best of luck.

hello! thank you so much for sending in this ask, this has given me a lot to think about.... (on top of. a Lot of other stuff lol but)

i'm having a lot of doubts about my own beliefs at the moment, following a confrontation that happened with an old friendgroup of mine. a lot of things that i felt previously sure in feel a lot more shaky now.

I'm not sure who to blame. I know there's probably no need to blame someone, but i feel like there Is and i feel like this post is too vague for anyone else to be able to weigh in their opinion but.

I have a deep desire to please others and that makes a lot of my beliefs very dependent on what others are saying about it. Very malleable. I am not immune to propaganda.

anyways all this goes to say that i hope i can sort this all out. I don't know if im of enough knowledge to be able to explain to my friends my perspective. I am pretty young in the grand scheme of things i think, and i just want to be doing the right thing.

i guess a lot of this comes from the. moral purity that is sort of expected in online leftist spaces. A lot of stuff happened during covid and. I don't really know.

those are my thoughts, then. i just hope that i can sort this all out. thank you

[politijohn]

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[travelingtwentysomething]

Deny, Delay, Defend

Whistleblower Exposes Health Insurers' Most Evil Scheme

This explains the insurance companies terms "Deny, Delay, Defend"

MUST WATCH. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE SO MAD.

[void-thegod]

Scientists outline a bold solution to climate change, biodiversity loss, social injustice

[motherdaughterholyspirit]

My swag cannot be replicated I've been carefully curating my vibe since I was 10 years old when I would stare out into the valley and think it's so desolate and beautiful.

[blackponderer]

“All About Love” by bell hooks, p. 122 - 123

[zorciarkrildrush]

When a rocket explodes a kid into a million pieces please turn to the camera and say "good!". And then I need you to take a cleaver and go kill another kid yourself. I need you to target a random person in a random house and hack them to pieces. You can't ask them if they're the right ethnicity, or if they have the right political opinions, or if they have the means to move elsewhere. You need to go in there and kill them and then you can keep on cheering from the sidelines at anybody else who gets killed. You have the moral highground, it's okay - they were physically in a place where it's cool to kill anybody you find.