#so shauna is more likely!
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i want to talk about the cult members in the yj pilot and which characters i think are which. this post is going to have some major spoilers from leaked bts pictures, but some of these theories are just speculation! beware!

so we have two confirmed identities, misty (she’s the only one we’ve seen taking off her mask) and taissa judging by this bts picture (also thanks to sukisslove on tiktok for making the comparison!)


the rest are going to be my personal theories!
we have this picture of three of the costumes in more detail, which i think is going to be from s3? so while the feast scene in ep1 was filmed with extras and we can’t determine who they are based on any visible facial features, this picture is probably of the actors in costume.

the girl in the middle HAS to be lottie. look at her face!!

we can’t see much, but those have to be lottie’s eyes and eyebrows. plus, courtney eaton is pretty tall and this girl is much taller than the rabbit. so aside from lottie and tai, the only one i can’t really guess with any confidence is the rabbit (who, by the way, is so extra scary to me for some reason 😭). it could very well be shauna, who was the closest to jackie, who is associated with rabbits (her mom says she loved rabbits and gives shauna a little porcelain rabbit for jackie’s birthday), but i think there’s a good chance that shauna is actually someone else. we’ll put a pin in that. so, who IS the rabbit? idk. we don’t have enough information on that, aside from the fact that she’s shorter than lottie and tai. for now i’m going to guess that it’s melissa, because she’s firmly in shauna’s corner and people are speculating that shauna is kind of using her as a stand-in for jackie.
anyways, if the girl with the raccoon pelt is lottie, who is this girl with long, dark hair?

it’s looking like melissa is going to be the eighth survivor (assuming shauna’s stalker is the eighth, and we saw that they had blonde hair) so let’s eliminate her, gen, mari, and one of the new girls who i think is named robin because the last three would be dead by this point. this could be a stretch but i’m going to say for now that it’s natalie and her roots have fully grown out. this might be unrealistic because she still has a decent amount of blonde hair left in the summer and it may not grow out completely by the winter, but her hair would probably be roughly the same length. she could be shauna, but shauna’s hair is a bit lighter, and i still think that shauna might be someone else.
everyone sitting on the antler queen’s other side has most, if not all, of their faces covered, so these are assumptions based on basically nothing. i’ll just guess for now that van is the one with their entire face covered and travis is the one sitting next to her. i know i said that the extra’s features can’t really be used as an indicator of the character they’re playing, but i think it’s fair enough to say that if those are the last two we’re left with then the one with darker skin has to be travis. i don’t think they would have someone with darker skin play van especially since that’s the one with part of their face exposed. i think what we can see of the face looks more feminine, but we already know who taissa is.

soooooo let’s talk about the antler queen!! as you may have guessed via the process of elimination, i think she may be shauna, and i feel like it makes sense. shauna is arguably the main character since we definitely follow her the most particularly in the adult timeline, and we know that she wants to take natalie’s place as the leader. i believe wholeheartedly that the position of the queen is something that’s either taken or passed around, and shauna wants to take it. i think that when the survivors split off into two groups, shauna will be leading one of those groups and eventually when they come back together she’ll become THE leader. and it just makes a lot of sense to me thematically! but the main reason that i think it could be shauna is this picture (courtesy of mattvews on twitter!)

look at the costume sophie is wearing!! that’s a horn/bone attached to the shoulder, exactly like the antler queen’s outfit. now, i guess it’s possible that the costume is also passed to whoever takes the title. i could buy that. but idk, this feels big. so based on all that, here’s the lineup (excluding misty who isn’t in the shot)

i know i’m making A LOT of big assumptions. melissa may not be the eighth survivor, and she might not be shauna’s blonde stalker. mari could be in the place i assigned to natalie, since her hair would match much better and it’s possible that gen is the pit girl instead (during the game of capture the bone mari was the decoy when gen was the one who actually had the bone). honestly as i’ve been writing the post i’ve started to convince myself that this is mari because i’m just not sure that a character who JUST became important would be part of the plan the writers clearly had from the beginning. so here’s the other option i’ll propose

this one probably makes more logical sense, and this is the outcome i’d prefer. in the adult timeline taissa says something about how she continues to support natalie because of what she did for them out there, which might mean that she did something to save them that cemented herself as their rightful leader. shauna is the rabbit, tying her to jackie, and mari is the pit girl decoy, but this doesn’t explain shauna’s antler queen-esque outfit in the bts pic. that’s really the only discrepancy i can think of, but it’s kind of a big one imo, unless the costume really is passed on and natalie is the last girl to wear it. i want to hear people’s thoughts though!! thanks for reading my unnecessarily long essay
#EDIT: if you look really closely the rabbit has brown eyes and melissa’s are blue!!#so shauna is more likely!#katie’s yj theories#yellowjackets#yellowjackets spoilers
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Yellowjackets as The Onion Articles :3

#I blacked out and made like 20 of these so theres more#yellowjackets#travis martinez#javi martinez#lottie matthews#jackie taylor#shauna shipman#jackieshauna#shackie#yj#yellowjackets textpost#the onion#yellowjackets meme
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no bc jackie wanted to be loved so badly and she cared so much for everyone on her team, she did their face paint and misty's makeup and tried to boost morale and she loves shauna so fucking much and they exiled her and they left her outside and she froze to death. they literally froze her out. i'm genuinely never getting over her death bc she did not deserve that and all they would have had to do was ask her to come inside and if shauna was just like "hey i love you i'm sorry" she would have come inside. SHE WOULD HAVE COME INSIDE GUYS.
#jackie taylor they could never make me hate you#jackie taylor#shaunajackie#yellowjackets#basil speaks now#listen i love shauna so so so much but i will never forgive her for leaving her out there#(but she'll also never forgive herself for leaving her out there so like. twinning i guess.)#anyway if i have to see one more post saying that jackie was a bitch i'm actually going to scream#HER BEST FRIEND FUCKED HER BOYFRIEND AND THEN HER FRIEND GROUP TRIED TO ASSULT SOME GUY AND WHEN SHE WAS LIKE#'hey guys that's kind of fucked up what is wrong with you'#THEY (essentially) KILLED HER#LIKE WHAT THE FUCK?#jackie my baby my love come here i will make hot chocolate for you and put you near a heater and like sew you a blanket or something#i seriosuly love her so much#yj
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“Shauna tries so hard to be a good person but sucks at it” vs “Natalie tries so hard to be an awful person but sucks at it.”
Shauna is fully capable and willing to kill and lie and cheat while maintaining this perfect apple pie illusion of a wholesome life and her family stays by her but even they’re starting to see the cracks in the veneer.
Natalie believes she destroys everything she touches, is constantly on a downward spiral of self-destruction, and hates herself for everything she did and yet she can’t even kill a goldfish on purpose and despite being openly antagonistic to everyone in the wellness center, they all seem to really like her.
FASCINATING dichotomy here.
#I feel like there’s so much Lottie vs Nat or Misty vs Nat foil comparisons#but dude she and Shauna are just representing two violent differences in the coping with trauma spectrum#Shauna bottles everything up#Natalie bottles NOTHING up#Shauna causes more destruction on ACCIDENT than Natalie causes on uproar#it’s so interesting!!#and I feel for them both#yellowjackets#yellowjackets spoilers#shauna shipman#natalie scatorccio
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Obsessed with how Lottie is one of the only Yellowjackets who is not mean to or annoyed by Misty. I’m not saying she’s exactly friendly to her but at the very least she’s polite and non-judgemental. Even when she’s dismissive or exasperated it doesn’t come off as an aversion to Misty herself (like when faced with Misty’s aggressiveness towards her in s2). In s3 ep2, Lottie even awkwardly hugs her and attempts to comfort her about Nat’s death and her own guilt. It’s even funnier because Misty is often annoyed, suspicious of and weirded out by Lottie,
#i actually think there’s more to talk about regarding this….#lottie as the antler queen in s2 and misty as someone desperate to be liked and admired who feels good in proximity to figures like nat or#jackie—in s3 we see she confided in shauna who is being set up as someone who everyone is frightened and wary of someone who could actually#usurp nat…#but when lottie is unhappy with the sacrifice of javi misty gets angry and cruel her losing her good opinion of lottie#i’d need to rewatch because I’m definitely missing and forgetting alot but yk very interesting#also thinking about shauna here…. lottie as someone she wanted overtake and show dominance over but lottie does not play shauna’s games and#it leaves shauna bitter and frustrated knowing she can’t win against her with violence and anger#lottie ofc steps down so shauna has no longer reason to feel challenged or threatened by her#but hmm…. adult timeline with callie is shaping up to be veryyy interesting#yellowjackets#yellowjackets spoilers#yellowjackets season 3#yj s3#yj spoilers#lottie matthews#misty quigley#should i tag ship? it is ship to me….#mistylottie
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ULTIMATE SHIPS CHALLENGE - Deaths [3/4]
#yellowjacketsedit#jackieshaunaedit#shaunashipmanedit#jackietayloredit#*#*usc#horroredit#tuservaleria#userrin#userhallie#useradds#underbetelgeuse#userabs#chaoticroad#userriel#userhann#useralien#userkimchi#tuserheidi#useraish#it's less the scene and more the way that#her death haunts the narrative and truly every moment of shauna's life#makes their dynamic so so so fascinating... like ....
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The Tragedy of Saint Jacqueline
#Jackie Taylor#Yellowjackets#my art#I posted a filtered version on twitter but thinking about it now I actually like the unfiltered ver more so that’s what tumblr is getting!#Shauna opening a pack of her saint trading cards and there’s Jackie
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The more the show progresses, the more I want to see the 90s cast infiltrating the modern timeline. We've gotten hints of it with Shauna and her younger self, her Jackie hauntings. We've gotten a little more with adult Lottie seeing teenage Nat (and Laura Lee), and with Natalie getting teenage Lottie in her final moments. I want more. I want the teen cast to be absolutely invasive on pivotal adult moments, infecting their adult counterparts when least expected. I want Taissa's argument with Van to dissolve into their teenage selves, their bond endless and timeless and inescapable. I want Misty absolutely wrecked by young Natalie lurking around corners, watching from mirrors. I want to see these women unable to navigate adulthood without the specters of their teenage selves cropping up absolutely everywhere, more and more as they let the memories in, as they stop being able to repress the trauma. They didn't grow up. They never could. You are always doomed to regress around your high school teammates. You are haunted by the phantom elements of your misspent youth. It is a comfort, and it is a gift, and it is a trial, and it is a curse. I would love to see that reflected with greater intensity, until the lines blur, until the timelines have no choice but to intersect. They haven't escaped themselves at all. They didn't grow up. They just got older.
#yellowjackets#yj meta#yj theories#i love the moments of younger cast popping up in the modern timeline so fucking much#i am truly obsessed with the idea that they look at one another and they see the girls from the woods#they don't see the adult versions at all. they don't see adults in the mirror either#the older i get the more i feel like i'm 10 or 15 or 20 in a body that keeps outwardly aging#and if that's going to hit anybody it's going to be these people who have never been able to leave the hell of their adolescence behind#give me hewson and savoy brown popping up in the middle of a taivan fight (or makeout. i ain't picky).#give me thatcher continuing to appear to lottie and to misty in moments of duress#give me nelisse staring shauna down as she tries to backpedal into suburbia#haunt! these! women! haunt them GOOD#(also outside of narrative purposes it would be so fun to see the dual roles intersect. actors playing the same character getting#to play together. scenes where they blend. it would be satisfying in so many ways. i yearn.)
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its so funny thinking about the people who dont watch yj seeing all my yj shit cuz theyre probably like "oh wow op moved on from jackishauna shes kissing someone else and op loves it" no this is very much still about jackieshauna. shauna kissing this rando proves jackieshauna thats why im losing my shit
#AND I WASNT EVEN LOOKING FOR JACKIESHAUNA PROOF I REALLY WAS COMPLETELY SATISFIED WITH JUST THE SUBTEXT ALONE#I DIDNT EXPECT THIS AT ALL#THIS ISNT LIKE BYLER I WASNT THEORIZING THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN I WASNT EVEN HOPING I TRULY THOUGHT TAIVAN WOULD BE THE ONLY SAPPHICS#for my byler followers who dont watch yj: i feel like i just watched the byler kiss like that is the level of insane this is to me#but maybe even more than that will be because i didnt anticipate this#if they do have shit like shauna calling melissa jackie or seeing ghost jackie kissing her and shit like that.....#then i might say jackieshauna is my favorite ship of all time......#my current one is snowbaz and they have held the record for NINE YEARS SO THAT WOULD BE A HUGE DEAL#but god GOD!!!!#im not done i still have more shit to say hold on#i still want that anon who asked if i believed jackieshauna would be canon to come back to my inbox#my entire reason for saying no was because she wasnt an established queer character everythings different now#jackieshauna#yellowjackets
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ok on a serious note tho i can't BELIEVE they made shauna a canon girl kisser this is CRAZY.
#it would obviously be shauna so i'm not mad it's not nat 🙃#also not mad that she didn't kiss someone more interesting than the hat girl but whatever#yellowjackets spoilers#yellowjackets#i got spoiled but this was worth it#it's like the ear eating all over again
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inside you (me) there are two wolves. one couldn't be happier about gayer yellowjackets a new survivor and gay hilary swank i guess??? yay <33. the other one.... never really liked that they added new girls and now they're important... sorry 😬
#biggest apologies to my mutuals that care about melissa and gen but i'm so irrationally annoyed by their presence#literally mad at myself for having complicated feelings about this but like. listen#on one hand it makes sense that all of them would end up resorting to gay activity. it'd make sense more of them would be gay to begin with#and shauna of all people makes even more sense. especially with a blonde obsessed with her lol#but on the other hand... and listen i thought i didn't care about this... but...#do any of you guys get the feelings that it's like fan service#which isn't necessarily a bad thing always you know? but idk *i* got the feeling it was too obvious it made me feel weird#i'll still cheer about it though!!!#watching yellowjackets#yellowjackets spoilers
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“something must have warped you when you were little” but i feel like the more interesting option (and this is what i think is probably canon) would be if nothing super huge and traumatizing happened to misty as a child. it would make sense, of course, for a character like her to have been abused or something similar, but it would be infinitely more interesting if she was always Like This to some degree. of course she was canonically bullied and excluded, and i believe she was probably neglected/ignored/whatever by her parents (or else they probably would’ve done something about her being Like This), but that Something that makes her Like This has always been present. we’ll never know what is wrong with her, and neither will she, but it’s inherent and it will never go away. it’s scarier and more tragic to think that the Something that has marked you as different, isolated you, and meant you will be perceived as evil and broken for your whole life was always part of you. it’s not something that can be cured or even explained. it’s you. there was never any hope.
#misty's storyline is so autistic horror#that being said autism is FAR from the only thing going on with her#though she is autistic. don't get me wrong. but autism doesn't even begin to explain her whole deal#and i think it's more impactful if her whole deal is never explained#yellowjackets#posting some thoughts because the yellowjackets tag is pissing me tf off rn#it's so NEGATIVE#i don't want to go onto the tag of a show i like to hear all about how much you hate the characters and the fandom and the writing#like good god#i miss when s2 was coming out and people had interesting takes and funny jokes#:(#yellowjackets spoilers#misty quigley#shauna shipman#shauna sadecki
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jackieshauna drives me insane btw
#you’re starting to look rEALLyyy weird…#maybe cuz you’ve been doing her dead body’s makeup#and like eating her#and she’s dead#hm#anyways umm o was practicing drawing today and decided to make this#trying to get more comfortable just like#animating without worrying about it being perfect#please i love love love feedback so likeee#lmk#also im uploading it to youtube probably later with some extras#uh oh yapfest in the tags#oh well#sheps art#yellowjackets#yellowjackets showtime#yellowjackets fanart#animatic#yellowjackets animatic#alex g#race - alex g#animation#jackie taylor#shauna shipman#jackieshauna#shaunajackie#jackie x shauna#ella purnell#sophie nelisse#rahhh
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YELLOWJACKETS 1.05 Blood Hive | 2.07 Burial
#you know??? like Lottie couldn't know those are the magic words but#what could more effectively set Shauna off than a direct callback to a moment she shared with Jackie#she really needs her best friend right now!!!!!!!!!!#can she be silly for a sec she has this grief so ancient in her!!#yellowjacketsedit#yellowjackets#shauna shipman#jackie taylor#lottie matthews
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do you think shauna learned that cells turn over completely in seven years thing in high school biology and latched onto it and had an existential crisis meltdown of nuclear proportions when it was coming up on seven years since she’d consumed jackie because none of the cells in her body were born out of the energy she got from jackie’s flesh anymore?
#or am I the only one who thinks like this l o l#I WISH this was shitposting#I’m so serious tho lmao like#I think shauna would think about this#I think she’d study it. like she’d say okay that’s just an untrue fun fact right#but then like once you get down to the detail and the complexity she wouldn’t know if she was MORE jackie or LESS jackie#she’s sitting in the LITERAL CLOSET that she loves to sit in for environmental storytelling purposes crying about cell turnover#jeff comes home and she’s holding a medical journal in shaking hands asking about heart cells#through sobs she asks if only 40% of your heart renews in a lifetime was any of that at the RIGHT time#jeff says what…what Right time you’re scaring me a little#shauna rolls her eyes and kicks him out of his own bedroom so she can cry under better conditions (without him)#she calls taissa for the first time in two years but she of course can’t bring herself to ask so it’s just an awkward call all around#this is both funny to me and breaking my heart like I’m so emotionally dysregulated about this I’m not sure if I’m kidding or serious!!#much like yellowjackets showtime!!!#yellowjackets#shauna shipman#jackie taylor#jackie x shauna#taissa turner#shauna x jackie
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you fuckers are really hating on travis when hes literally a he/him lesbian, also the wilderness is literally a metaphor for girlhood do you really think it wouldve let him survive if he wasnt at least a little girl coded ?
#a bunch of ppl have said this in more smarter ways but i feel like the yj fandom needs to be reminded of this every once in a while#also hes just genuinely a fascinating character?? like he saved his girlfriend only to have to eat his brother#he ate his brothers heart RAW#literally that scene is so insane and underrated#like yall went crazy about shauna eating jackies ear (which fair because it is gen insane) but not over travis eating his brothers heart ra#(which equally as insane)#any ways sorry for the rant my tags are always so long 💀#i am gonna make a more analysis type post on this once i rewatch the show#yellowjackets#travis martinez#travnat#(its not my fav ship but its still toxic yuri so i have no choice but to stan)#javi martinez#🐝#also i get not wanting to see any men in this show about women but guys please he’s literally just a girl as well#hate on jeff or waltor or kevyn or the weird cop dude just leave travis alone 🙏🙏😭#also not girl coded in the way some men are. hes girl coded in the more literal sense#gender fluid travnat my beloved they are so t4t <33
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