#so at least its the probably thing in the movie

[permanentmess]

thunderbolts* (with some platonic x reader) headcanons

a/n: i've been accumulating these for a while and through my 5 total rewatches of this film. remember these are just my personal headcanons, but i would absolutely love to hear yours too! this is very short btw

warnings: mentions of trauma/mental illness/ptsd, slight language, alcohol/consumption of it (minor), also my own personal version of how things happen which is where everyone lives and nothing sad happens ever so sorry (i literally have a whole timeline in my head like this actually), and SPOILERS FOR THE THUNDERBOLTS* MOVIE AND POST CREDIT SCENE

i think alexei forces everyone to eat together when they can

and everyone will groan but secretly love their little found family and traditions

out of everyone, john is probably the best cook [and ava will burn down the kitchen]

yelena wants to do everyones hair, every day (cause cmon have we seen her hairstyles? she definitely gave bucky the dyson air wrap look)

i imagine they do some sort of trade off thing where each week two people do the grocery shopping

and they all take turns buying bob new books to read (idc its practically canon that he loves to read)

more of a sad one, but i have a feeling that they forced valentina to sound proof the rooms because of nightmares :(

specifically bucky and/or yelena asked bc they've (started to at least) process their own emotions/trauma

okay back to happier shit hehe

i think that not only do they have yelenas guinea pig (which maybe they named cucumber 👀), theres alpine, and another cat that you beg them to let you keep

the cat ends up with you half the time and bob the other half

everyone will just kinda pop by each others rooms to hang out or talk, especially if they haven't seen someone in a while and they're worried

they'll never admit they're concerned, not fully, but you'll know. you'll feel the love

MOVIE NIGHTS

i know these headcanons are practically the avengers towers fics that i read when i was younger but idc, movie nights are so a thing

also alexei wants to start a band but its quickly discarded when you all make the equivalent of that one tiktok sound where the caption is like "put these two in the studio and this is what you get"

another semi sad one but i feel like everyone hides bob away when valentina drops in, and they always have an excuse ready

cause fuck her she's not getting ahold of him again

i feel like one night john, alexei, and bucky would get together and try to test their super soldier serums 💀

you, ava, yelena, and bob will walk out onto a balcony and be like "bucky, why are alexei and john chugging a handle of vodka"

"to see if they can get drunk still"

just dumb shit like that that leaves you all awake until 1 AM talking and laughing

in the summer john taps into his inner patriotic captain america and barbecues (and in my head sambucky divorce isn't happening so sam and torres join <3)

im thinking like fire pit, smores, burgers, whole nine yards

they do it at the compound too so everyone can swim in the lake (again, no divorce, everyone lives in my head 😍😍)

even if not, the watchtower for sure has a pool and a balcony so thats where they end up

this was kinda short, maybe a little mundane, but all i've got for now! i had fun fantasizing about a world where i get to live with the thunderbolts*

[justafewberries]

How much space would 8,000 people require to live, can the number of houses in d12 be estimated based on the population, along with the possible size of district 12?

to figure this out, we could use the population density map for the current Appalachia, but I don't think it would apply anymore. We know 8,000 people live in d12, and if we go off of the most official map we have of panem, d12 is approximately 400 miles at its longest point (bottom of North Carolina, top/middle of Ohio).

400 miles is a ton of land to house 8,000 people. We'd also have to factor in peacekeepers. In Ballad, they live on the base, but in CF, it appears at least some (Cray specifically) have their own houses. So let's add 100 people. I have no clue how many peacekeepers there are, but a 1:80 ratio seems sufficient (also, for the sake of rounded numbers).

The current American household has 2.54 people. Again, I don't think this applies. We don't know every family in d12, but the ones we do know tend to run large. Katniss has 3 people (used to be 4), The Undersees have 3 people, Gale has 5 (used to be 6), Louella had 9 (6 siblings, her, 2 parents), Peeta had 5 (assuming his oldest brother still lived with him).

So there is no standard family size we can go with. We do know that on reaping day, there are overflow alleys, so they cannot all fit in the square, yet Katniss does not mention anything about the crowds flowing into the Seam.

I estimated the borders of d12 on this map:

which returned that they would need about 1000 miles of fence to keep people in district 12, as this follows the inner, brighter border on the map. I just don't think this would be necessary for 8,000 people. 8,000 people is the population of a small town today. To illustrate how much space you would need for 8,000 people, the island of Tuvalu has a population of about 10,000 (2022). It has an area of 10 square miles. That's 0.01% of d12's square mileage.

It's likely everyone in d12 has been rounded up in less than a 10 mile radius. We know there is at least some buffer between the fence and the district boundary, because the lake is about 6-10 miles away, and the covey graveyard is beyond the lake. So I think the actual livable portion of d12 is probably only a few square miles at most. The fence would not be the bright border on the map, rather, an unmarked border.

For reference, Idaho is 82,751 square miles. Boise is 82 square miles with a population of 235,421. Granted d12 doesn't have apartment buildings, so let's do a small suburb instead.

Emmett city, Idaho has a population of 8,492. The square mileage? 2.8 miles. It has 3,119 housing units and 2,959 households

So d12 is like, insanely large. But the livable portion is probably somewhere between 3-10 square miles.

Granted this map is from the movies. It's the closest thing we have to canon.

[vipercats]

analysis/rant time, do you guys remember that martin and lewis movie in 2002? yeah i hate it, i don't hate the actors or anything but it is more like what people call a "bromance" just close friends who hug and are there for eachother. Many people describe them as having amazing chemistry and having some sorta great platonic affection at least in all the docs i have watched. I think some people really miss the point, in order to make it martin and lewis you have to have that element of homoeroticism and the martin and lewis movie tries but its not homoerotic enough

This was the source material, very homoerotic and jerry seems very into it here even if it is an act.

Bringing back this photo because it's important, these are on set photos from the stooge or at least thats what the caption on pinterest says, if this was what they were doing on set imagine how they were in private. A lot of old hollywood stars were gay or bisexual, these two LOOK like a couple. They never actually came out but there are probably a lot of old hollywood stars that never did and just hid.

I don't think this moment was in the script, dean grabbed him roughly, there is a lot of tension here and dean knows what he is doing here, whole thing looks oddly sexual? I think at the end where jerry smiles and stares i think he is caught off guard and somewhat excited. The cch is not like watching two friends or brothers as some people put it i have always thought of it as seeing a old married gay couple bickering and having fun playing with eachother. Jerry may say that he loved him like a brother or whatnot but he loves to hint, so it seems straight but at the same not, you will hear him say "i was in love" "we were in love" then throw in "i loved him like a brother". Martin and Lewis could get away with acting gay like this, perhaps the shows was like an escape for them. They were either bisexual or just gay, i have heard stories of gay men forcing themselves to date women to socially conform in the 50s and 60s so all those affairs could be that. The Martin and Lewis movie failed to convey that, so it fails as a biopic, in this case the "chemistry" was a love, respect for eachother and homoeroticism. Whenever i see a comment about them asking if they were gay and being shut down it makes me a little upset, to me it is just queer erasure :(. Here is a meme i found on pinterest for listening to me

[distort-opia]

What do you think of the dimensions where Bruce’s parents(at least one) live? When I read(-ish) Final Crisis it stood out to me how Bruce can be depicted as shy, pathetic, pitiful, or very attached to his mother.

Nothing specific to ask on this but why do you think writers believe this to be how Bruce turns out?

Mm, I've also thought about this pattern before. I think it's inspired by a pretty harmful view on mental illness, frankly; the idea that without trauma, people don't reach their "full" potential.

Have you seen the movie Split (2016)? I was really pissed off in theaters when I watched it, because it was all hinging on this conceptualization of mental illness as some kind of superpower. If I remember right, at some point a character spells it out and says that trauma makes people better, so their goal was putting people through hell in order to "elevate" them. That suffering is necessary for building power and character. And to me, this portrayal of Bruce as a sensitive, emotional, pathetic mama's boy with his parents' death taken out of the equation, feels like it's got the same underlying principle. The message is that Bruce would've been a useless, sheltered rich boy if he hadn't been left to fend for himself, if his trauma hadn't forged him into something bigger. (It's a view Joker shares; he's not interested in Bruce Wayne, most of the time, but Batman. He considers the human behind the Bat a weakness. Hell, it's a view that Bruce struggles with-- finding value in himself outside of the Mission, and being Batman.)

There's this page in Miller's The Dark Knight Returns that probably influenced writers a lot:

People joke that Batman's "superpower" is actually money, but if we're going by comic portrayal, it's money and trauma. I think Tom King had a line somewhere about how "Batman is an engine that turns pain into hope"... with the caveat here being that he always needs to be in pain to be Batman. We see it constantly thorought comics, the conflict between Bruce's inner child who's telling him he has inherent value outside of what he does as Batman, vs. Batman and wanting to dedicate every single bit of his life to the Mission. At its core, it's the same insidious idea that's being reinforced, both by stories in which Bruce's humanity is pushed to the side in favor of being Batman alone, and alternate universes that have him be so weak in Batman's absence: that "Batman" is the most valuable thing about him.

And actually you wanna know what's even more tragic? Canonically, Batman needs to exist in order to save the world:

Are You Afraid of Darkseid?

This is from a story called "The Endless Staircase" starring the Phantom Stranger. He's traveling through time, guiding chosen individuals (meant to impact the world in essential ways) to the Endless Staircase. He visits moments like ancient Egypt, where a sword of Nth Metal is forged, and a comic artist who could accidentally erase the multiverse, etc... With Joe Chill, it's revealed that he nearly shot Bruce too. But the Stranger intervenes, because if he died, Bruce wouldn't have become Batman.

[qoldenskies]

i think its so funny when people take the way donnie acts at face value even though its a horrible lie because he's a horrible liar, while understanding leo is bullshitting very well despite him actually being GOOD at bullshitting. many such cases

[xxplastic-cubexx]

alternate apocalypse ending or something who the hcrist knows anymore

[ersatz-introspective]

i've been stalking the batman rogues fandom since about 2019 i believe and tbh the horniest enjoyers of any iteration of the riddler are the fuckinG PAUL DANO RIDDLER STANS. i could never repeat what some of you fuckers have said to me in private .... what some of you have told me you've done ... I'M SO AFRAID OF YOU GUYS HIGHKEY???

[wolvesrain]

pls reblog for more ppl 🫡

[sofia-not-sophie]

Help I’m thinking too hard about the unexplored world building implications of the seven kisses lead to pregnancy in a world where there seems to be/have been a patriarchy and also somehow it works interspecially despite humans and akiridions having entirely different modes of existence/bodily function

[broken-clover]

Regularly frustrated by the fact that most of my fixations aren't mainstream enough to have much in the way of official merch, but for the sake of both my sanity and my wallet, that's probably a good thing

[lunatic-fandom-space]

i just saw a post that was obviously vagueing about that popular vampirism as disability post being like "OF COURSE a post being like 'what if vampires (bloodthirsty predators) were actually the victims and people reacting negatively were the villains' would do well on tumblr, this is the Nothing Is Ever Your Fault website" and it just pisses me off because its like, hey man. modern vampires (the ones that came about in victorian times, that are loosely based on eastern european folklore) have existed for like a hundred years now and people have been characterizing vampires as a 'species' in a bunch of different ways for just as long, and the person who made the original post clearly chose to characterize them as basically normal humans mentally but a bit fucked up physically. yknow, kind of like disabled people

[baby-prophet]

impulse bought tickets to see wet leg even tho I have class that let's out when doors open bc its only a 30 minute direct train ride from class yayy

[microwavetoaster-selfships]

See. In addition to my last post with the "many thoughts.. perhaps too many thoughts" one of those thoughts is I'm now sort of experiencing the 'downfall' of letting myself get into so many different fixations is that I am getting hit with the urge to watch or rewatch several things at once! Which. When I say it like that it doesn't sound that bad at all. Actually. I guess having a marathon day of just Indulging probably wouldn't be that bad at all because I'd essentially just be smothering myself in good feelings. But the thing stopping me is I also have the idea implanted in my mind that I probbbabbbllyyy shouldn't spend like eight hours or however long just staring at TV. And while that's probably not a Bad Idea to follow, having just one little marathon day probably won't be Bad. And it's not like I'm getting grossly fixated on a new media where it Might Be Bad cause I might start.. ahem.. neglecting some things over Indulging In Fixation. It's just gonna be me paying some revisits.....

[unwritten-fanfiction]

I did a fanart

There's no path of trampled flowers around so I guess they all flew down while in whimsical laying position idk, just don't think about it lol

[xxplastic-cubexx]

feel the need to rewatch the x-men films just so i can draw a layout of the mansion for drawing purposes

[coridallasmultipass]

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