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legobiwan · 6 months ago
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"First, let's get something out of the way: a human's ability to grasp reality is painfully limited. You don't even have free will! Don't believe me? Okay, rip a dollar in half right now. Didn't do it? Didn't think so!"
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"PS: Look what I just ripped in half! Suck it!"
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I love Stan so, so much for this.
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crimsoncold · 6 months ago
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WHAT IT FEELS LIKE IN THE HOTD FANDOM RIGHT now as someone who is disappointed in the show's handling of team green and really just critical the show's writing in general
Team Green Stans and/or HOTD critics:
"I know I'm going to get a barrage of criticism or even hate/harassment for saying this but...
HOTD's writing is rather biased and strays from the source material in ways that are frequently ridiculous, fails to actually improve the story, and totally ignores the anti-war and the general targ/ruling class critical tone of GRRM's writing.
Yes villain or dark character centric shows can be really good even when the purpose of the story isn't to condemn their actions- BUT purposefully changing an adaptation of a story so that it no longer contains the original message/themes that did criticize the characters and their actions is at the very least a questionable writing choice.
The characterization and the messages of the show are inconsistent in a way that doesn't feel intentional or in order to make a point- instead it just doesn't make sense. ALL characters suffer due to the choices of the writers/showrunners- including team black- but team green is obviously getting the worst of it (seriously its cartoonishly bad). It's all so nonsensical and frustrating that it's getting harder and harder to watch- really at this point its no longer even a fun bad! show that can still manage to be entertaining even when the story itself sucks.
Much like with d&d with the later seasons of GOT it's disappointing to see the poor quality of work coming from paid professional writers, this could have been a show about a tragic and dramatic conflict between characters who are mostly bad people yet are still compelling or sympathetic and instead we got ...well...this."
Some Team Black Stans:
"Come on people HoTD is an adaptation so of course things will differ from the books but the show still stays true to the heart of the book, the changes were not a big deal- in fact some were good choices by the showrunners making more disturbing and violent aspects of the book more palatable for the audience without lessening their emotional impact... B&C was toned down not to whitewash team black but because no one should want to see the multiple child homicides from the book take place on screen...and the violence here really isn't as important to the plot as it was for say GOT's red wedding... toning the violent or horrific nature of these deaths down and having it occur off screen is the right thing to do! It's still sad- and this way we didn't need to traumatize the actors OR the audience!
Really people just stop complaining... both sides of the conflict are presented as EQUALLY culpable and in the wrong as the other side, team green stans are just missing the subtle points being made in the show and are exaggerating when they criticize the writing or supposed inconsistent characterization and accuse the showrunner's of being biased.
These TG stans are just being so mean and should stop criticizing the writers/showrunners-who are just doing their job!- and even if they feel they have to criticize the writing it's really just so inappropriate to ever specifically name the writers/showrunners when doing so! It's one thing for fandom to anonymously criticize other fans- especially since TG Stan's takes are so misguided that they obviously need someone to explain to them how they are misinterpreting things- but criticizing the professional writers and showrunners through tumblr posts is out of line! Its not the writer's fault that Alicent and TG are hypocritical or less likable than TB- that may just be how they are in canon- to say that the storytellers are purposefully changing things to make TG less sympathetic or competent than they were in the books and to set them up as the unlikeable antagonistic opposite to the now more tragic and heroic TB is a ridiculous accusation!"
Other Team Black Stans:
"Daemyra is just the best ship, they have loved eachother since she was a teenager and now after years of pining and being kept apart they are finally free to be together, you never see supportive or healthy relationships like this in asoiaf, we stan a man who will do literally anything and kill anyone for his niece wife.
Lucerys was just an innocent baby when he sliced up Aemond's face, he was just protecting his big brother, it only happened because he was afraid for their lives! Viserys made the right choice not to punish anyone since the team black kids only attacked Aemond after he stole Rhaena's dragon and Lucerys was only using self defense when he used a knife on Aemond. Most especially Lucerys and his mother didn't deserve to be attacked by that bitch Alic*nt. And Rheanyra trying to have Aemond tortured for calling her sons bastards was just her being a rightfully protective mother! Team Green means her family harm and no way will a bamf like Rhaenyra let that slide... this is what a good mother does not like that terrible Alic*nt! Lucerys' death was so tragic can't wait to see a grieving mother get her revenge... TG believes in an eye for an eye don't they? Well how will they like a son for a son?
TG stans keep saying that Rhaenyra is just as violent entitled and problematic as anyone else on hotd! They are so wrong! They are just delusional haters that can't stand to see a woman have sexual freedom and be in a position of power! She is the better daughter/wife/mother and the only people she hates are the ones who deserve it!
See she isn't evil like the Hightowers- B&C was an accident and the book description was exaggerated to be used as propaganda against Rhaenyra- she didn't even know it was happening. It wasn't even team blacks intent to kill little Jaehaerys only to kill Aemond- but he's a kinslayer so them sending someone to assassinate their nephew/brother is totally in the right and not something any character in canon would judge them for!... Rhaenyra is just too good of a person to wish harm on any of her innocent family members. Everything that happened to Rhaenyra, Rhaenys, and Meleys is just so tragic... they are the only true queens in this series ...god i wish all of their pain was only experienced by team green lol.
You know what ...are TG stans children or something? Why do they keep complaining that team green is being unfairly villainized to make team black look better? Don't they know they can just watch a show where the characters are flawed/bad people without needing the story to spoon feed the audience the message that bad people need to be condemned? Why do they take things so seriously? Why is this their whole personality? Get a life and stop overthinking a book/tv show -not everything needs to be deep you know so just shut up and enjoy watching the dragons destroy things.
But for real how can you people stan misogynistic women haters like team green or a trad wife/women for trump like Alic*nt? Like yikes what does your fictional character preferences say about you as a person. Hey EVERYBODY look these weirdos are really out here defending and woobifying violent predatory and sexist characters like team green! This fandom is the worse i swear lmfao."
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Showrunners/Writers:
"What if the civil war, brutal violence, and tragic kinslaying that happened in the dance of dragons was really just a series of accidents and misunderstandings?
What if Rhaenyra and Alicent were friends who never really hated one another, and Alicent was pining for Rhaenyra's friendship and acceptance for the last 20 years, what if neither of them even wanted to go to war?
Who cares about house stark or the pact of ice and fire, or Jace's interactions with Cregan or Sara? You know what Sara Snow doesn't even exist, Jon i mean Jace would never betray his betrothal/loyalty/vows to his dragonrider soulmate and future wife for some stark girl! This whole stark side plot isn't important lets just go back to the dragons!
What if Rhaenyra wanted the throne because she knew that from her descendants the prophesied saviour/prince that was promised would be born? What if instead of her surviving son Aegon being so traumatized by the horrors of this meaningless war that he actually hated and feared dragons afterward- and supposedly was even responsible for killing the last one- it is Rhaenyra who was actually responsible for saving Daenerys' future dragon eggs- and thus she the one who ensured the return of dragons to Westeros! It will be Rhaenyra through her choices and her descendants that will be responsible for saving the entire realm and defeating the others with dragon fire!
What if Alicent pushing her son to be crowned was all because she was a fool who misunderstood the words of her dying husband NOT because she felt her son was unfairly robbed of his birthright by his father?
What happened with Daenerys in the later seasons of GOT was so unfair- just terrible writing -she NEVER should have been made out to be a mad queen and i bet Rhaenyra wasn't actually a cruel or violent ruler either! I bet it was the men who slandered her, and the men who were pushing for war and violence while all the women were actually trying to keep the peace.
Wait...wait.... What if everything in the book that criticized Rhaenyra was actually propaganda made by her enemies to ruin her reputation!?!!? Yeah B&C and team black arranging the horrific murder of a child? That story was TOTALLY team green exaggerating the violent murder of their child/grandchild. Daenerys I mean Rhaenyra deserved so much better... and all the injustices that happened to her will be the most impactful and tragic element of this show.
What if TG didnt actually have strong bonds with their dragon or spend much time riding them?... just more propaganda! Yes! CGI is expensive so this also means we dont really have to show their dragons unless they are fighting the blacks. Team Black's bond with their dragons is much more powerful and important though so we should still show them spending time together and riding them.
What if the book description of the respect and loyalty team green had to one another and the terrible grief they felt at the loss of their family members was ALSO just team green propaganda? What if Alicent only ever struggled as a mother and failed to connect with her kids and actually didn't even like or respect her children? How many kids did she have anyway? Three? Yeah that sounds right. Oh wait! Wait! What if none of TG got along with or trusted one other? No...no...What if they actually hated and betrayed each other? YESSSS!!!!!!!
Team black and their descendants are the true Targaryens, no one is really interested in the boring team green anyways so at least these changes will make them more interesting and better foils for team black! This type of story is exactly what people want I just know they are going to love it."
NOTE: (because i know idiots will be lurking in the anti tags to complain or harass people)
this is mostly meant to be very critical of the showrunners and somewhat critical of a specific type of stanning behaviour and the weird criticism or harassment that gets directed at people who like team green or who criticize hotd - sure i may be exaggerating slightly for effect but l'm STILL pulling from real posts/comments/opinions that I see from TB stans ...Like sure they aren't putting ALL of this in a single post but collectively this is definitely the type of attitude and language many TB stans have
Fandom is just about enjoying a special interest - I dont actually care about or want to police who you stan or ship. I DO care that some of you purposefully and directly harass real people because you disagree with their opinion on fictional characters and that some of you leave uncharitable, ignorant, critical, or unpleasant comments on properly tagged Team Green/anti or TB critical/or hotd critical posts.
Most of all i just find it really funny the juxtaposition there is between how underwhelming and juvenile the show's storytelling choices are compared to how eloquently, persistently, or vehemently fans will write up either criticism or defense pieces for these characters, this objectively bad show, and it's deeply unimpressive writing... like sure some fans put more effort into understanding the source material and comparing it to the show and some put more effort into criticizing or defending the show,the writing, or specific characters but collectively nearly all of us are putting in more time, effort, and thought into hotd than ANY of the showrunners/writers.
In conclusion Guys just like or dislike whatever show/characters you want...you don't have to justify the things you like by being willfully in denial about what canon sources say/the nature of certain characters/or the quality of the show's writing. You definitely don't need to be disrespectful or attack people on behalf of fictional characters or the well paid hbo showrunners/writers.
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taiturner · 1 year ago
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Adrian Lyles as JET HSMTMTS ◆ Season 4
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nenoname · 3 days ago
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wanted to let you know that your thoughts and rambles about stanley are genuinely so fascinating and interesting that i tune into this blog often, to see em. :] keep up the awesome work
eheh, thanks! the knowledge that we'll someday get more stories about him and ford makes my brain buzz
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anxiously-kk · 1 year ago
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don’t hate me y’all but some people on twitter are mad that felicia would lie for no reason and like i think that’s kinda a reach? clearly she’s a bad ally for cirie but she’s also playing to win. it’s a decent move to make if it works. but ya she lied or sold her out idk which, not cause she’s jealous (she may be idk but it’s not only that) and not for no reason, but because she wants to see herself win not someone else. i know that’s something ciries stan’s have had trouble accepting this season but that is literally the game
(i don’t like it btw but speaking objectively the move has a purpose it’s just one we might not like)
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grungebutsoft · 1 year ago
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when someone casually mentions liking the movie “bad guys” I have to flip out about how much I loved it while also downplaying how in love I am with diane foxington
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thedevotionaltour · 8 months ago
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Daredevil #19 - "Alone-- Against the Underworld!" (June 1966)
Written by Stan Lee Art by John Romita Sr. (pencils), Frank Giacoia (inks)
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dulcewrites · 2 years ago
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I’m writing this…. Thing lmao, and I hope I’m not horribly mischaracterizing Helaena. Idk I find her difficult to characterize at times.
Also trying to describe her dragon dreams… bc they it is barely touched on nor explained for her.
Edit: oouuu the way I really want to write hotd Alicent and Helaena related stuff bc I do feel like I could bring some new dynamics to their characters. But it’s come to the point where I just prefer writing them in a modern setting bc I feel like I can get them out of their situation 😭😭 I don’t want them to suffer
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divatheeva · 2 years ago
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i sketched out Ingo in a midriff exposing shirt today. However, Minecraft. So I’ll have to do more tomorrow
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kurokoros · 2 years ago
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it pains me as a bisexual to dislike a lesbian character but wow does Robin annoy me
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eruanna1875 · 2 months ago
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Okay, I definitely agree with this take. However - and I apologize for hijacking your fandom post with another fandom - but oh my gosh, THIS-
"This only validates his idea of himself as Tragic and Doomed and I really feel like he'd lean into that"
-is literally so Wirt coded. It's insane.
Like, that's how he sees himself! The way he talks about himself, the way he sees his interactions with other people. In his mind, he is the lonely tragic hero, doomed by everything, and no one can understand his melancholy.
And that's exactly what the Beast was offering him! I mean, taking up the lantern? Bearing the burden of his brother's soul forevermore, all the while knowing that he didn't/couldn't save him in the first place? What could be more tragic and doomed than that? The Beast was offering him the fulfillment of his own poetic vision, and he came that close to taking it...
And then he sat up and realized, wait that's dumb.
Do you think dying and coming back as a ghost would fix ford or make him worse. I need this for scientific purposes
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radioinactivity · 30 days ago
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More Dad Stan AU. Riding the "I want to draw" high for as long as I can. Some notes:
Stan has lived mostly alone for 24 years and as such in the beginning is not used to having an excitable child underfoot that he could potentially step on. Also Stan strikes me as the kind of man who has holes in all his socks.
Wendy's been babysitting the kids since she was like 12 by virtue of wanting to get out of her house and needing money. Dipper sees her more like a big sister than someone to crush on.
Dipper only has one friend his own age and it is, weirdly, Pacifica Northwest. They bond over how mean the other is and are just kind of snarky shitkids together. She likes hanging out with a family that actually seems to like each other, even if she'd never say it.
I'm just trying to refine how I draw these kids so they're not so googly eyed anime kids but not like 100% accurate to the show either. I like how this looks tbh!
There's more stuff but I'll get to that eventually
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youneedsomeprompts · 1 year ago
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~ BLACK CAT X GOLDEN RETRIEVER ENERGY ~ OTP PROMPTS
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requested by: @moondrop-gummies request: Can you do grumpy sunshine where she’s the grumpy but doesn’t believe she can be loved and he’s the sunshine who treats her like she’s the best thing in his life and they’re roommates? Thank you in advance! 🎀
Feel free to use and reblog!
Part 1: ~ GRUMPY X SUNSHINE ~ PROMPTS
grumpy being unable to accept anything kind that sunshine tries to do for them
sunshine just admiring anything grumpy does
sunshine staying at home despite being invited elsewhere just to spend more time with grumpy
sunshine doing the things around the house that grumpy dreads doing
grumpy being snarky about the nice things sunshine does but they both know grumpy is actually enjoying them
sunshine having endless patience with grumpy because they know/hope that they'll come around eventually
sunshine making sure to tell grumpy that they deserve the world
grumpy warming up to sunshine and being in a bright mood in sunshine's company
grumpy being patient with sunshine and listening to their long, colourful stories but that's the least they can do when sunshine does everything for them
grumpy's love language is telling sunshine that they deserve more (than grumpy could ever give them)
sunshine's love language is showering grumpy with affection until grumpy snaps
grumpy trying to push sunshine away to guard themselves from developing serious feelings
grumpy hyping sunshine up when they find out that sunshine has a crush, not knowing that it's them
^ and immediately changing course when they find out (because sunshine shouldn't throw their love away on someone as undeserving as grumpy)
sunshine not paying any mind to grumpy's self-depricating rants and just keeping up their high level of affection and warmth
grumpy being able to let their guard down and accept the love because of sunshine's unconditional and unwavering support
grumpy 'you're an idiot to choose me' & sunshine 'I would be that idiot in any universe and you love it'
grumpy being seriously worried about sunshine having developed feelings for grumpy ("you can't be sane. you should see a doctor.")
grumpy being the biggest sunshine stan but they adore them too much to be willing to expose them to the madness that means grumpy
sunshine doing everything with grumpy that want but nothing more and nothing less because they know how important it is to respect grumpy's boundaries
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reareaotaku · 5 months ago
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i LOVED the last (older) Dipper x reader headcanons, so cute!
would u have any other for him, but in a romantic way? or even...𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂, ones?🤨🤭
(also the reader is not that smart..or atleast not book smart like him...more like artsy??idk :P)
tf does freaky mean 😭
[It's my brother's 18th birthday!!]
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🧢 You weren't as smart as everyone else. With that being said, what you lacked in intelligence you made up for in creativity. It was something that created the bond between you and Mabel as kids. She loved your stuff and was always impressed
🧢 Every summer after Weirdmageddon, when Dipper & Mabel return, Dipper slowly becomes closer to Mabel's friends, because not only are they like his friends, but they are also around a lot
🧢 Dipper especially liked to be around you, because whether he likes to admit it or not, he likes that his intelligence impresses you, especially since he's not too popular with girls, because he's a nerd/geek
🧢 When making his journals, he asks you to help him draw things. Your art reminds him of Ford's art. You're both incredible artist.
🧢 He's so impressed by your art. He wishes he could draw like you.
🧢 Definitely asks you to draw him 'as a joke'. He laughs it off, but if you agree to do it, he's flustered.
🧢 Has a huge crush on you. How could he not after spending more time with you than his own sister
🧢 Does not know how to tell you or act. He gets so flustered when realizing his crush and sometimes his voice cracks- It's so embarrassing to him
🧢 He is protective over you though. Like, if Pacifica ever says anything negative to you, he'll be snarky back to her for you. Will do whatever it takes to make her feel as bad as she made you feel
🧢 Mabel finds out about his crush and is upset at first but decides to help him when spying on you too.
🧢 You're surprised when Mabel invites you over, but then leaves you alone with her brother, saying something about Grunkle Stan... or something? Just sounded like an excuse to you
🧢 You don't mind because you and Dipper get along, but it feels weirdly... romantic?
🧢 Mabel finally decides to just ask you out for Dipper, frustrating him, because he had a whole plan to ask you out. Though, he's thrilled when you say yes
🧢 You both are perfect for each other, even though you aren't very similar. He likes you so much and would do anything for you, no matter what the cost-
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green5quirrel · 1 month ago
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And when I'm Stan Pines old I wanna look back at all the art and see myself represented!
I love when people draw Stan Pines old and gross. Don't beautify him he's PERFECT THE WAY HE IS
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