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Normally, Hayun would not go through a dark alleyway, but she had seen the hunters corner the poor wolf. She had no choice but to follow them and save the poor thing. Unfortunately, while the wolf had gotten away, Hayun was left with the fallout.
Hayun was no stranger to men who wanted to hurt her. Growing up, she met plenty of men who were terrified at the concept of a woman who was better than them, stronger than them. They felt emasculated because she refused to back down like the good Korean girl she was supposed to be and that meant they lashed out.
She was a vengeful girl, eager to hold any grudge. If they were just some assholes on the street, she would simply leave it at putting their asses through the ringer. However, they were not that. They were hunters and they clearly wanted her dead for simply existing.
Hayun’s mind was going through the process of what move to make when a voice echoed through the alley. One of the men turned to look at the disturbance. Her hand shot out, striking his elbow before putting him in a lock. She yelled out. “Well, don’t just stand there, help me!”
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So much of the arophobia directed towards aromantic heterosexual men seems to be rooted in willful ignorance about what aromanticism actually is and how allosexual aromanticism differs from sexual objectification. Aromanticism is experiencing little to no romantic attraction towards others. That’s it. It isn’t the same as sending unsolicited dick picks to strangers or reducing women to their bodies. When a misogynistic man disregards a woman’s personhood in favor of treating her as a sexual object, it isn’t because he doesn’t experience romantic attraction to women. It’s because he chooses not to value women as people.
That has nothing to do with whether or not the man in question experiences romantic attraction. You can respect someone’s personhood without being romantically attracted to them. In fact, if you can’t respect a woman’s personhood without being attracted to her, then that is misogynistic. However, there is nothing inherently misogynistic about finding a woman sexy (even if you aren’t romantically interested in her!), nor is there anything inherently misogynistic about having casual sex with a woman who has enthusiastically consented to having casual sex. (Because, yes. Women CAN consent to having casual sex without being tricked into it via false promises of romance. Women are fully capable of deciding for themselves what they want to do with their bodies. Just because a woman does something with her body that makes you uncomfortable—like casual sex—doesn’t mean she’s a helpless victim who needs you to rescue her from her own autonomy.)
It also just seems so bizarre to me to claim that aromantic heterosexual men don’t face any stigma related to their aromanticism. Do you really think a man who has never had a crush on a woman won’t face any stigma for that? If a heterosexual man says that he has never gone on a date or has never had his first kiss, how do people react to that? Social norms for how men engage with romance are different from how women are expected to engage with romance; that doesn’t change the fact that men are still expected to engage with romance in certain normative ways.
Of course, aromanticism is not the same as just not going on dates or not kissing people. That is just one of many ways that aromanticism can look. But aromantic experiences are diverse, so it’s difficult to give a one-size-fits-all example of how aromantic heterosexual people are affected by arophobia. What I’m trying to express here is that aromantic people often don’t engage with romance in the way that society expects us to (if we engage with romance at all) and that, furthermore, men are often perceived differently when they do not conform to those expectations.
#aro#aromantic#arophobia#alloaro#aroallo#things i wrote in one sitting without editing or proofreading#cw sexism#cw sex mention#cw arophobia#does this make sense?#long post#my post
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You know, I think it’s very telling that Rick Riordan chose to make a point in “The Lightning Thief” that the Golden Age described by Hesiod in “Works and Days” was mostly just Titan propaganda that serves to cover up how humans were exploited and oppressed by Kronos and his siblings.
Leaning into the fact that all Half-Bloods are canonically neurodivergent and marginalised within society, there’s a lot to be said about how Kronos and Luke’s whole plan is recruiting kids who feel the system/The Olympian Gods have failed them into what’s basically a cult that promises them the restoration of an alleged “Lost Golden Age” where people like them get to be on top of society again. You might say their goal is to make Mount Othrys great again.
(Also, I also get the feeling that Riordan knows what a sexist pig Hesiod was and wants to call him out and roast him just a little).
@disregardcanon @uncleasriel @cynicalclassicist @carcosa-commune @unclerickfanblog
something something the original percy jackson series being published in post 9-11 america. something something luke castellan and the kids who went off to fight a war for "america's honor" or whatever and coming back angry and damaged about it but not directing it in a way that helps get rid of the problem
#Percy Jackson and the Olympians#Kronos#Luke Castellan#Hesiod#Works and Days#sexism mention cw#fascism cw#war cw#oppression cw#exploitation cw#slavery implied cw
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Isn't it batshit crazy that when a famous man is accused of rape, two kinds of testimonies come forwards simultaneously:
A part of people who knew him/his circle, (employees, friends, coworkers, lovers, etc) will say, horrified:
"We didn’t know. Who could have thought? He never acted like that with me"
And another part will say:
"Everyone knew. Everyone. For years. Decades. It was an open secret. The whole industry knew."
#yes this is about#abbé pierre#but also#gerard depardieu#special french rapists feature tonight ladies!#men with power left unchecked tend to rape/sa women and or kids. what else is knew#cw rape#tw rape#tw: rape#cw: rape#rape#rape mention#news#french news#world news#me too#france#radical feminism#radfem please interact#radfem safe#rambling into the void#radical feminist safe#feminism#radical feminists do interact#sexism
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Milgram and The Rose Bride
(CWs: Child Abuse, Cults, Unhealthy Relationships, Bullying, Sexism, Discussions of Ownership in the context of Marriage, minor mentions of sexual abuse and minor mentions of sexual abuse in relation to Minors)
(Spoilers for Utena!)
Alright so, since I'm putting this on the Milgram blog, most likely most people who see this don't know what the Rose Bride is and what that means so lets answer that question.
The Rose Bride is a concept in the 90s Psychological Shoujo Anime Revolutionary Girl Utena, in which the main premise is that a bunch of highschoolers are dueling for marriage (ownership) of the Rose Bride so that they can revolutionize the world.
Now, the thing is, The Rose Bride is a Real Person, and the implications of her ownership and the environment that Allows for that to happen are explored through the series, and the reason why I'm bringing it up in relation to Milgram is this.
"In the end, all girls are the rose bride."
Let's talk about Mahiru for a bit since her being so focused on romantic love makes it a lot easier to explain what I mean by this.
In T1 we get this interrogation from Mahiru:
T1Q20: What do you think about smoking? I've never smoked before, but I might copy him if who I love smokes.
This is a deeply concerning sentence, Mahiru has just stated that she is willing to do something incredibly physical destructive to herself if the person she loves is doing the same. This connects back to her thoughts on having "matching love."
We fought sometimes, I was happy to get hurt Let's have matching pain, this sickness is pretty bad This is a claim of responsibility From the two of us with matching love
Now, the Rose Bride has to anything the person who is engaged to her tells her to do. The Rose Bride is not allowed any sort of Autonomy or Agency.
(Transcript Link for Utena Scripts)
Touga:Â The Rose Bride, cooking? Touga:Â You shouldn't do such things as cooking. Touga:Â You should only take care of the roses here. Touga:Â This birdcage is your territory. Touga:Â And you are the beautiful little bird which lives here. Touga:Â I want to possess this birdcage, and everything in it.
Touga:Â Himemiya Anthy is the Bride of the victor of the Duel. Touga:Â While she was engaged to you, the Code required her to obey you.
I Love You:
What am I supposed to do now? If you won’t tell me, I can’t be me
Mahiru is also probably the most traditionally feminine out of the entire female cast. With her priorities being love, romance, and having children.
(Mahiru Interrogation)
T2Q1: What's your opinion on Marriage? Mahiru: It's something I really dream of.
T2Q10: Do you like children? Mahiru: Yup. I always dreamed of having the older being a girl, and the younger being a boy.
Mahiru is willing to do Anything for love, even if it gets her hurt in the process. That's what she's Supposed to want, that's what is Supposed to bring her joy, that's what is Supposed to bring everyone joy. (Mahiru T1 VD)
Es: I honestly have no interest in those matters. Mahiru: What? No, no. There’s no such thing as that. Being in love is like a landmine. It’ll explode someday, you know? The only thing that differs is whether it happens earlier or later in life. It’ll happen to you too. Even if you don’t have any interest in it now, one day it’ll explode for you as well. All because you’ll have that fateful encounter with your special someone.
Love is what Everyone Wants and if you say you Don't you just haven't found the right person.
Mahiru: Yeah, yeah. You’ll deny it at first. I mean, I was like that as well. Before then, I always admired soap operas and shoujo manga because I thought that they depicted a world different from our own.Â
Voice:Â Once upon a time... Voice:Â ...there was a princess grieving over the deaths of her mother and father. Voice:Â Before this princess appeared a prince traveling upon a white horse. Voice:Â His appearance gallant, and his smile gentle, the prince enveloped the princess
The amatonormativity in Mahiru's worldview is clear. People are Supposed to fall in love and have the Normal Idealized Heterosexual Romance and there's Nothing Else Outside of That At All.
Mahiru: Yeah, yeah. You’ll deny it at first. I mean, I was like that as well.
Anthy:Â But I've been engaged to you, Utena-sama. Utena:Â I've told you to stop mentioning stuff like "engagement" and the "Rose Bride." Anthy:Â Nevertheless... Utena:Â Look, no matter how you look at me, I'm a regular wholesome girl. Utena:Â I'm only interested in wholesome boys, not a bride or stuff like that.
And Mahiru does a lot to preserve a "marketable" quality to her actions and behavior. TIHTBILWY is formatted like a magazine, something that is sold and bought by consumers. Erasing the messiness of her relationship or even Romanticizing those qualities to seem appealing.
Giving you love to the point of pulling you down It's just because I still get worried, please forgive me Even when I test you, even the times we do the breakup ritual, Is because I love you
Voice:Â but because of the strength of her admiration for the prince, Voice:Â the princess made up her mind to become a prince herself! Voice:Â But is that really good for her?
The story of the Prince in Utena is one that is a fabrication, it hides and excludes multiple Very Important parts of the story all in the favor of portraying the Ideal Fairytale Heterosexual Romance.
Unlike Utena who chooses to become a "Prince" (which is a concept I'll get into in a bit.) Mahiru is trying to make Herself the Rose Bride. She orientates her life around who she loves, she's willing to accept a lot of abuse for the sake of an Ideal Relationship, she even actively downplays her intelligence and strength! Something that is explored in detail by this post by archivalofsins you should check out.
Now that isn't to say Mahiru isn't a horrible partner. She is, and this is why. Mahiru is Expecting this sort of incredibly idealistic fairytale romance from her partner, an ideal that no person can possibly live up to without harming the people they care about and themselves!
Do you really think you know what love is? If you do, let's just overheat together The things that I only want to say to you, and the things that I want from you Is love
My emotions are out of control, that’s inconvenient? I don’t care!
You can't live up to this and you shouldn't want to! It's an unrealistic and unachievable ideal with a horrific power imbalance to boot! Yet Mahiru is Trying to conform to these ideals, trying to conform to the unrealistic expectations of women and relationships in society, and that's why she's here in the first place.
"He who believes friendship exists is a fool."
So these toxic and unhealthy ideals and expectations are at the core of Mahiru's character and her situation. But there ideals are perpetuated by an environment that promotes this sort of behavior, one that isn't unique to Mahiru's situation.
Muu Kusunoki is a 16 year old teenage girl who is both a victim of bullying and someone who bullies others for her own gain.
She also might of had a homoromantic relationship with her murder victim.
Let’s meet up inside the pain, a place just for me Postmortem makeup to hide my heart, how to solve it is a secret The stabbing of the little devil’s voice, counterattack being a suicide note “I love YOU”
I wonder who that reminds me of.
I'll get into Shiori in a second, but it's important to note that Muu introduces a concept that's present in Mahiru's story but is particularly present in Muu, the concept of the cycle.
Saionji:Â No... I was to be the one to rescue her from the coffin this time. Saionji:Â No! I am the one who will save her this time. The castle said to contain eternity... Saionji:Â the power to revolutionize the world...
The concept of eternity and nostalgia in Utena tends to be depicted as a coffin, one you need to break out of to grow.
Touga:Â If the egg's shell does not break, the chick will die without being born. Touga:Â We are the chick; the egg is the world. Touga:Â If the world's shell does not break, we will die without being born. Touga:Â Break the world's shell! Touga-Juri:Â For the sake of revolutionizing the world!
The duelists want the Rose Bride so that they can gain the power to revolutionize the world. Who she is does not Matter as much as what she can Give Them.
Now, this idea is particularly present in characters like Shidou and Kotoko who position themselves as saviors, not for the benefit of others but for what they Get out of that arrangement, thematically fitting the concept of the prince.
However, Muu is not the prince, she is not a savior. In fact she always positions herself as the victim, as someone pitiful and weak. (Crying B)
Muu: Hey… Prison guard, when you say “I”… Who are you talking about? Es: [breaking down] Muu: Prison guard? Es: [stumbles] Muu: Prison guard. What’s wrong? Prison guard! [shakes Es] Hey! Prison guard! Es: Shut up! Don’t touch me! Muu: [cries] You’re so cruel… I… Even though I was just worried about you… [cries again] I can’t take it anymore. I hate you, prison guard!Â
Es pain and breakdown is caused by something Muu said, and yet when Es very sharply tells her not to touch them because their uncomfortable with it. Muu immediately starts crying and talking about how much They got hurt because of what they did, when Es is currently unresponsive due to what she did to them, albeit unintentionally.
Muu needs to to be the victim, After Pain shows all the bad things that happened to her and not Any of the bullying she participated in. It's Not My Fault is a whole song about how everything she did was right actually and that everyone else was wrong.
Now, Muu isn't a master manipulator or anything. She's an impulsive 16 year old. If Muu was a master manipulator she wouldn't be here, would she? She'd be still in school taking the honey up as she was before Rei did whatever she did.
Muu gains power by being pitiful and weak so she'll be loved, and by its' very nature it's self-destructive. She cannot be Happy because if she Was this wouldn't work anymore. She Must be in a worse situation, she must be the victim, or else no one would pity and love her.
I am innocent as everybody desires
Juri:Â You're just like Shiori... Juri:Â ...cruelly innocent.
Muu cycles from being "weak and pitiful" to being "queenly and powerful" and tends to hurt herself in the process. This attempt at grabbing power and love through pity Harms Muu, and she seems to even be drowning in a lot of self-hatred and self-pity, and is looking for external validation to confirm that she's "good."
But I guess some of it is my faultMaybe it’s ok as it is I want to feel “alive”, is it ok if I breathe?
Hey, what if If I am a bad girl Don’t hate me. Don’t even try to proof from “After Pain”
And, in an attempt to gain power and control, Muu traps herself in a coffin.
Shiori:Â This is me, the real me! Shiori:Â And not the underdog that was living a miserable life in the shadow of the bright shining Juri! Shiori:Â The real me that surpasses the light. Shiori:Â Yes, this is the me that controls Juri.
But, it isn't all her fault.
Again, Muu really was bullied, horribly so if were judging by her lyrics in After Pain and the sequences we see in it.
If I was gone, If I had just disappeared I overheard, I found out How much I’m not needed
T1Q4: Is there something you hate? Scary people and ghosts. And right now, school.
Muu isn't lying about this, and Rei isn't fully sympathetic either, she did Hurt Muu and Muu really did want to apologize to her.
T1Q9: Do you have apologetic feelings for who you killed? A: The person who did the wrong thing first should apologize.
Shiori:Â Juri-san was so kind to me. Shiori:Â But I thought she was kind to me because she looked down on me, Shiori:Â and that she had pity on me for being plain and useless. Shiori:Â That's pathetic! Shiori:Â So I wanted to change my relationship with Juri-san. Shiori:Â But what I did with him made me more miserable than before. Shiori:Â I should have wanted it for myself! Shiori:Â But now... Shiori:Â Now I'm on equal terms with her. No, I've won! Shiori:Â I always had a place in Juri-san's heart. Shiori:Â I'm the winner! Shiori:Â What shall I do? I'm so delighted to know my friend's secret I almost can't bear it! Shiori:Â She suffered alone, looking at my picture in secret... Shiori:Â That was Juri-san? Poor thing! Shiori:Â No good! It's still no good! Shiori:Â How could you look at me like that?!Shiori:Â Why did it all turn out this way?
The school as a whole is letting a horrible environment of bullying and toxicity be left to rot and fester. You Really Can't create a healthy friendship in a world like that, it just won't let you. If your not friends with someone because you gain something from them, you'll suffer.
Muu: Wow, poor thing,.. I’ll teach you! Friends aren’t like that, you know. Rather than using each other for something, we just get along because we’re comfortable around each other. That’s all. Es: Well, I’m sorry about that. Muu: Haruka-kun is really nice! He accepts anything I say, he listens to anything I tell him. For me, that’s really comfortable. Es: And that’s… “friendship”? Muu: What do you mean? Of course we’re friends! Haruka-kun is happy with it, so it only has benefits for both of us! Es: I, as someone who has no friends, can’t judge, of course, but isn’t that just exploitation? Muu: Exploitation…? Um, I don’t really understand, but… I do help him pick out clothes [in return], and I recently gave him a hairpin I didn’t need anymore as a hand-me-down!
Akio:Â But sincerity by itself changes nothing. Akio:Â Without power, one finds themself merely depending on others to live.
Jackalope describes this relationship as a "Master-Servant" relationship and it seems like this is the type of friendship Muu is familiar with. She's emulating how her friendships were in school, just with someone else as the servant and her as the master.
T1Q1: What is a friend? A: Someone who properly listens to what I say.
Now this doesn't completely absolve her obviously, what she did was still Very Bad and even though she Breaks the hourglass in her MVs. She doesn't really leave it.
Muu does not want to accept responsibility for her actions, she believes herself to be justified and in the right, even when she has Done Wrong.
This unwillingness to accept when something she did is wrong and the unhealthy environment of Milgram that assigns strict moral value to people's actions and has no nuance in its judgement...leads her back into the cycle she was trapped in.
“A girl who cannot become a princess is doomed to become a witch.”
Now we've tackled the gender roles and horribly toxic cycles and ideals, so, what happens when you Can't work within those confines, or even want to break out of them? Just, hypothetically, if you cannot become a princess (which is everyone because the ideal of a princess is so incredibly unrealistic that anyone who aspires to be it would destroy themselves in the process) or Don't want to be a princess, what happens?
Well.
You become something Other.
Something Evil and Unnatural.
Something that needs to be Punished and Harmed.
So, now, this is where I have to mention that Utena as a show deals with underage sexual abuse, I didn't mention this for the other sections since they were not as relevant to those discussions. However since this section deals with the abuse received by the Rose Bride it feels important to mention.
I will not be referring to it in the context of Amane's due to how we don't have information in the text pointing to Amane being a csa victim. This is for the sake of Tact, as it feels wrong to speculate about it here and I do not feel like I'm the right person to examine this.
It will, again, be mentioned and alluded to, so stay safe and do what's good for your health.
So, Amane Momose is repeatedly dehumanized throughout her story.
This is a consistent theme with her, she is treated as something subhuman and terrifying.
In Purge March, Amane is consistently depicted as scary, threatening, or otherwise evil.
There's even a section in her T2 VD where Amane calls herself "evil," though it is done in a roundabout way while she's talking about Shidou (who I will get to in a bit.)
A: Both pain and illness are trials. According to our teachings, those who run from them are the worst evil there is. That’s one of the four great principles. No matter who you are, that cannot be forgiven. E: What are you…? A: Oh – speaking of which, there is one among the prisoners right now. An evil existence that’s trying to steal people’s trials away from them.
Shadow:Â The witch roams this world of darkness even now. Shadow:Â Seeking the young and noble, to sacrifice them anew! Shadow:Â Surely the light presents an obstacle to the witch, to her dominion over the dark. Shadow:Â Beware! Beware! She is still somewhere in this world...
Not only that, but Amane is The Cat, a symbol constantly associated with sin and impurity throughout the MVs with Kazui and Yuno.
And is implied to have actually Been asked if she was human by her parents.
(Amane T1 VD)
Amane: Yes. It is only natural for a person(/human) to apologize to another for breaking a promise. Es: … Amane: Why are you looking so doubtful? Are you not human?
I promise! A good girl that keeps a promise is like, mwah!
Amane is not to be considered human, she's even collared and leashed in her Prisoner design, the medal and bow on her outfits in the MVs being another "collar" of sorts.
Amane Needs to be Restrained and Domesticated or else she'll bring harm to the people around her. She isn't good enough to be a "good girl" and seems to Know This.
Only if, only if, only if I could be a good girl
It's always "I can be a better girl" or "I can be a good girl" and not "I am a good girl," and the line above implies its impossible for her to be one. It's not something she can do.
When she gets punished by her parents its to make her a "better girl," and to "change" her into a "good girl." It is love, for they are not leaving her to die as an animal.
(Amane Interrogations)
T2Q9: What does love mean to you? A: To spread mercy with no limits.
But it’s not scary at all, because it’s love I can really think it’s great. See isn’t it a great thing?
Even though these punishments keep on Almost Killing Her!
It's what she needs to go through to be good! And even if she doesn't even believe its possibly anymore what else can she do? Run? Running away from trials is a sin! One of the worst there is! She can't allow herself to be more sullied than she already is.
Plus she knows this is love, she isn't scared anymore, it's childish to be scared of it.
Akio:Â A child like you can't appreciate my ideals. Akio:Â The Rose Bride exists because of ideals you don't comprehend.
Plus there's a sort of comfort in it, she knows what happens next. She idealizes Milgram somewhat in T1, believing that it's possible for this world, that resembles her abusive environment so much, could be Good.
Amane: Ah, I am looking forward to it! Seeing whether your judgement will align with that of these higher standards! If that is the case, maybe Milgram would be the right world for us to live in, rather than the outside world! Milgram relies on your judgement, isn’t that right? In that case, you could become the mediator for a far more righteous world!!
There's a comfort in Milgram's strict forgiven/unforgiven verdict system with a (theoretical) possibility of growth! And she later takes comfort in the same religious doctrine that Harmed her when Es does declare her as unforgiven.
If your so used to a situation, even if it harms you, why would you ever want to leave it? It's scarier if you leave it, you don't know what will happen next. At least at home, Amane knows what to do so she can get off a bit longer without getting hurt.
If you become a bad girl, monsters will come out This is the magic that stops that from happening
Akio:Â Anthy, the sword. Akio:Â That's right. You're a good girl, Anthy.
Amane's suffered for twelve or so years, an eternity trapped in a coffin. A cycle of abuse and pain and horror and fear. Why would she Ever want to leave it when what she's seen of the outside world is so horrible?
Amane: In fact, there have been people who said that to me. I’ve been told things like, “You’re being deceived.” “You can still make it right now.” “You’re crazy.”
People are always positioning themselves as stronger than her, people are always positioning themselves as smarter than her, people are always positioning themselves as Her Prince.
Shidou: I…… I just don’t understand. If everything about MILGRAM is true…… why did a child like you have to become a murderer? Just imagining what sort of circumstances must have led to that, it makes me so sad…… Amane: ……*sigh*. Is that right. I don’t think I’m going to get along with you, Shidou-san. I don’t agree with the fact you refuse to acknowledge that I have my own free will, and that I should be held accountable for my actions, just because I’m a child. I may have only been alive for 12 years, but all the choices I’ve made, even if they weren’t the best ones, were entirely my own. What point is there in you getting sad when I have no regrets myself? ……please give me back my test. It seems you don’t have the concentration levels required to be my teacher. I’m going to get Kotoko-san to teach me instead. Shidou: Amane…… I don’t think that’s true. However smart you may be…… you’re still just a child.
Utena:Â Cut it out with that "Rose Bride" or "possession" nonsense. Utena:Â That girl is an ordinary girl named Himemiya Anthy! Touga:Â Is she? Touga:Â Is it true that you're an ordinary girl? Utena:Â You don't like it, do you? Utena:Â Being the Rose Bride or whatever... Anthy:Â I... Utena:Â Go ahead, speak your mind! Anthy:Â My mind... Utena:Â Yeah! Utena:Â You hate being treated as the Rose Bride, right? Utena:Â Tell him clearly! Anthy:Â All right. Anthy:Â I hate being treated as the Rose Bride. Utena:Â What's so funny?
Amane: You are treating me as a child after all. Because I’m a child, you believe that I must have been brainwashed. It’s not like that. I, too— children, too, understand everything! Please don’t just decide that people must be unhappy.
What she wants doesn't matter! When has it ever mattered? The people who say it does, don't like it when she acts in a manner they don't expect and her parents have made it Very Clear that what she does isn't important to them.
Any sort of happiness she could possibly get tends to come from things that are outside of her cult. And because of that, she isn't supposed to have them, and she is wrong for wanting them in the first place.
And yet...Amane cares so much about having free will and autonomy though, it's her main argument in her T1 VD and her biggest problem with her treatment.
Amane: I see. Then, are the things that I as a twelve-year-old think irrelevant? Are you going to cast aside the feelings that I know I have in this very moment, purely based on the fact that I have not yet lived for a very long time? Judging these things based on someone’s age will not take you very far. Do I, at age twelve, not have my own will?
That's the thing with Amane Momose, she doesn't want to be a "princess."
T2Q13: If you could be reborn, would you still choose to be yourself? A: Obviously.
She wants to stay as her, no matter what. In spite of all of this she doesn't want to be anything else But Her. Even if it gets her hurt.
Amane helped the cat because she wanted to, she saw it hurt and couldn't look away.
Utena:Â Hey, save her! Utena:Â It's too cruel! Utena:Â Save her! Utena:Â Save her...
And in the eyes of god, she was wrong for doing so.
Dios:Â She can no longer be saved.
’Tis ordained, thou shall follow thine destiny
But again, Amane doesn't want to die.
T1Q12: What is the meaning of life? A: I think it is something you learn for the first time when you look behind yourself when it ends. I do not want to have regrets then, so I live on with all my might.
This was the tipping point of her, how much more is she willing to suffer? How much longer is she willing to stay here? Because she will die, it's not an if, its a when.
So, she decides, to break out of her coffin, and while it is partially due to how she was given a righteous reason to kill her mother. It is a crime that is mainly motivated by self-preservation and hatred.
Amane: Furthermore, isn’t it condescending of you to assume that just because I happen to be a child, I am incapable of hating someone enough to kill them?
Unfortunately for her, the audience isn't as willing to accept that.
I talk about it in more detail over here but we are Constantly positioned in the place of her abusers. From framing to her opinions on us, ever since we voted her guilty in T1 for the primary reason of "making her realize her mistakes." we mimic her parents.
Since she cannot become a princess, she becomes a witch, and is forced right back into that cycle she desperately tried to escape.
And Someday, Together, We'll Shine
So, that's a bit of a downer. But even so we have hope!
It's not exactly easy when the system built is so counter-productive to everyone's wellbeing and development that it often makes them worse instead of better.
But Amane has made a promise to live. Muu Does want to have genuine relationships with the people around her. And Mahiru has admitted her relationship wasn't as ideal as she initially thought.
And sometimes, you just need to see a possibility for something outside of all this to be able to get out of it.
Anthy:Â What will you be doing in ten years? Utena:Â I dunno. But... Anthy:Â But? Utena:Â But I hope we can be together like this drinking tea then. Anthy:Â Yes. I hope so too. Utena:Â I'm sure that'll be great. Utena:Â Let's have tea and laugh together ten years from now, okay? Utena:Â Promise? Anthy:Â Yes. Definitely.
#milgram#amane momose#mahiru shiina#muu kusonoki#008#006#004#milgram meta#milgram analysis#ITS DONE#HOLY SHIT ITS FUCKING DONE#I NEED TO WRITE THE PRINCE POST TOO BUT LETS IGNORE THAT FOR A SECOND#if theres any grammatical mistakes/weird sentences/so on please inform me!#theres probably one hiding somewhere...#not sure if I tag utena or not...#cw child abuse#cw cults#cw sexism#cw sa mention#holy shit im so sorry for forgetting those
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As the Hare Flees Before the Wolf
Eöl & Celegorm | T | 1.8k | @tolkiengenweek Day 3: Enemies | AO3
The light of the open plains burned in Eöl’s eyes as he urged his horse onward, heedless of the wind lashing at his face. Again and again he cursed the names of his wife and son, turning their names into a drumbeat of rage that pounded steadily with the beat of Morroch’s hooves.
Aredhel, as faithless as the rest of her kin, bending to Maeglin’s whims and treachery as soon as Eöl’s gaze was turned away from her. And Maeglin, whose hatred had festered under the eaves of Nan Elmoth, and turned into a foul, fetid malignancy.
They would be punished justly, and his servants as well for not noticing their escape. He knew now that none could be trusted.
Eöl ground the reins into his palms and dug his heels into Morroch’s sides. He focused on the ground streaming beneath the horse’s hooves, averting his gaze from the accursed sun that burned high overhead.
Thus it was that he did not notice the half-ring of Elves that stood barring his passage, until a cold voice called for him to halt, and looking up and narrowing his eyes against the light, he found himself penned.
Eöl noted the light in their eyes, bright and burning with unearthly brilliance, and he resisted the urge to spit at their feet. Noldor. And sons or followers of Fëanor no less, for they wore the eight-pointed stars of all his ilk.
As Eöl drew Morroch to a halt, one of the Elves called to him, his voice mocking. “What errand have you in these lands that one so sun-shy as you would brave the sunlight? A matter of haste, perhaps?”Â
Though bitter anger rose in his heart, Eöl mastered his features and did the Elves courtesy, knowing his danger. Dismounting and bowing his head, he said, “I beg your leave, lords. I am following my wife and son, who departed from Nan Elmoth two days ago, while I was away. They rode to visit you, and I, seeing it fitting, sought to join them on their errand.”
“We marked their passing,” the leader of the Elves said, “though they did not halt to greet us, nor indeed stay with us, for that was not their errand.” He was pale and fair-haired, and in his hand he held a great hunting bow. He wore a wolf pelt about his shoulders, pinned in place with an eight-pointed star that was larger and glinted more brightly than those of the Elves around him, save for the dark-haired Elf that stood to his right, his posture languid but his gaze sharp. They were the lords Celegorm and Curufin, then, the cruellest of all of Fëanor’s cursed spawn. Curufin it was who had first called to Eöl, mocking him.
Celegorm dismounted and stepped forward, handing his bow to his brother. “We suffered them to pass, for their need seemed great, and their flight was as hares that flee before the hunting wolf.” His voice was fluid and sinuous, a voice that entrapped and ensnared.
“So either you seek to deceive us or you are yourself deceived, Eöl,” he continued. “I would warn you that it will fare better for you if it is the latter that is the truth, though I doubt that one such as you is capable of truth.” The Elf-lord’s face was cruel and perilous, and the scornful glance of his eyes as his gaze swept over Eöl in one dismissive motion sent rage burning through him.Â
But Eöl held his tongue and stood still and straight before Celegorm as the Elf paced slowly around him, his pale hair glinting in the harsh sunlight of the open plain. Although fear trickled through him, he tilted his chin. He would not be cowed by a kinslayer, perilous though Celegorm was.
Eöl mastered his expression as the Elf-lord again paced in front of him. “Perhaps, Lord Celegorm, you will give me leave to depart so that I might discover the truth of this matter.”
Celegorm stopped and laughed coldly. “And so let the fox loose from the trap so that he might again feast in the henhouse? I think not. It shall be decided here, with my brother and our men as witnesses.” He motioned to the Elves behind him.
He resumed pacing. “How would you bid us to decide in this matter, Dark Elf? To trust the words of one whose speech does not align with his actions, or to trust rather the counsel of my heart, which urges me to consider why the Lady Aredhel and her son seemed to flee as if the very hounds of Morgoth were upon them, and why you, not two days later, fly at their heels even in the light of the sun?”
“You misread the matter, Lord Celegorm,” Eöl said.Â
“Do I? Tell me the truth of it, then.”
Though Eöl felt his peril growing, he straightened as much as he could and answered, “My wife does not understand the customs of my house, and she suffers from an affliction of the mind, for I regret to say that she has weakened in mind and spirit since the birth of our son, and strange notions have entered her mind that never would have before. A healer has advised that she remain at home, where my servants can keep her in comfort and banish her delusions of discontent. Surely, kinsman, you understand now why I ride with haste after her. I fear for her well-being and that of my son, whom she surely has convinced to believe her delusions to be truthful.”
Celegorm came to a stop in front of him, and any trace of mockery had left his face, which had turned suddenly stern and cold. “Those who steal the daughters of the Noldor should be less heedless with their tongues, if they value the gift of speech. I name you no kin of mine, Dark Elf.”
Eöl stiffened. “I did not steal what came to me willingly.”
“Did she, or was she ensnared by the enchantments and entrapments you have long devised in the secret hollows and twisting paths of the forest? Do not think word of your work has not spread from the shadowed eaves of Nan Elmoth.”
Eöl’s lips twisted into a snarl. “Why should I bandy words with one who slaughtered his own kin?” he spat. He whirled and reached for his javelin, which was fastened to his saddle.
With a growl, the beast standing next to Celegorm lunged forward and wrested the javelin from Eöl’s hand.
Celegorm took the javelin from the beast, examining it. He ran his finger over the blade, where the poison glistened in the sunlight, then sniffed his finger. His gaze flicked up to Eöl’s. Eöl thought to see anger or triumph flicker in the Elf-lord’s eyes, but they were cold and impassive, and when he spoke, his voice was deadly quiet. “I wonder: Who was this meant for—your wife, or your son?”
Eöl felt the blood drain from his face, and he reached for the hilt of his sword.
But the Elf-lord was faster. In one fluid movement, the cold blade of a hunting knife pressed against Eöl’s throat, and Celegorm’s lips brushed Eöl’s hair as he whispered, “Who is the kinslayer now, I wonder? For all our misdeeds, we have never slaughtered our wives or children.”
Gritting his teeth in anger, Eöl kept his gaze fixed ahead, not allowing the Elf the pleasure of seeing his fear, though his heart hammered in his chest.
Celegorm withdrew the knife from Eöl’s neck, and before he could react, the Elf-lord wrenched Eöl’s hand up and swiftly drew the blade of the javelin head across his palm in a stinging slice.
Cold dread trickled down Eol’s spine, and his face contorted in fury as he looked up at Celegorm. “Thou art a kinslayer twice over, son of Fëanor.”
Celegorm said nothing in response, now flint-eyed and in a perilous mood, and he stepped back and addressed the encircling Elves. “Though his words are honeyed lies, his hands have shown the truth of his dark purposes, and he has felt the bite of his own poison. He will be dead by morning, perhaps, but there is now the matter of what to do in the hours until dawn.”
Even now Eöl felt the poison enter his veins, and his heart quailed. “Will you not release me to die as I see fit, or at the least kill me swiftly—or will you not suffer even those comforts, kinslayer?”
The Elf-lord’s smile as he turned upon Eöl was wolf-sharp, and Eöl knew now that the peril he had felt before had been merely a shadow of the peril he now faced. “To hasten the hour of your death would be too merciful, Dark Elf. Do not forget that I once followed Oromë. I can deliver mercy and withhold it just as easily.”
“You would break all laws of the Eldar.” Eöl looked from Celegorm to the other Elves, beseeching. But there was no kindness to be found in their gazes.
“You would have had Irissë die even as you do now, in slow agony of pain unrelenting. Is it not just that you should feel the same fear that she would have?” The light in Celegorm's eyes was wild and fey, and Eöl cowered beneath his glance.
“What will you now do with me?”
A smile curved Celegorm’s lips. “The hunt is about to begin, and we are in need of prey.”
Eöl paled, even as the Elves’ voices rose in laughter, and he leapt atop Morroch and dug his heels in, lashing the ends of the reins against the horse’s flank. Still laughing, the Elves parted as Morroch broke through their half-ring and lengthened his stride into a gallop.
As they fled over the plains, Eöl leaned low over Morroch’s neck and peered back over his shoulder.
Already, Celegorm, Curufin, and their followers outfitted themselves for a hunt. The great hunting bow hung at Celegorm’s back, and Curufin held a tall spear that glinted in the sun. Their followers leapt astride their horses, and hounds milled about the horse’s legs. Celegorm ordered the formation of the riders, and the hounds gathered in front, Celegorm’s slavering beast foremost.
With a cry of fear, Eöl urged Morroch faster, until sweat flecked the horse’s dark flanks, and foam showed about his mouth.
The sharp blasting of horns carried over the plains, and the baying of the hounds joined the bitter cries of the hunters. A howl rose above the din, louder than that of any wolf that stalked the dark forests of Beleriand.
And above all came the sound of cold laughter carried on the wind.
#tolkiengenweek#silm fic#tolkien fic#silmarillion#celegorm#eol#fotfics#create the canon you wish to see in the world (eol suffering)#huan is arda's no. 1 opponent of sexism#the silmarillion#my fic#domestic abuse cw#(mentioned only)
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Doctor Weissman. Keiko has noticed her around before, of course she has. It would have been harder not to when she's so often the only other woman in the room here. Certainly the only other woman ever referred to as Doctor.
That fact alone, however, does not make the two of them the same. Keiko hasn't forgotten the way sharp eyes all honed on her the moment she set foot in the military ball: hostile, contemptuous, and far from only male. It isn't gender alone that renders Keiko an outsider every time she walks into rooms like these in this country, and her hackles still raise all the same when she finds herself backed into a corner by someone who blends in far more with the rest of them than she ever could.
Only what Lee has already told her holds her tongue. He and this woman had also spoken, that day on Bikini Atoll. Keiko had been far too distraught to notice anything beyond the bomb - beyond the loss, the familiar, awful ache ripping straight through every vein down to her bones - but he claims she was on their side then, too.
That knowledge creates just enough good faith to actually entertain her current hostage situation. It doesn't stop her arms from crossing, however, nor her eyes from narrowing as she asks the most important question, good faith or not: "Why?"
midge && @chasingtitans
doctor weissman. it couldn't be said that the alias fit like a glove, but the attitude certainly did. somewhat self-important when she remembered she was the one being spoken to and her father or brother weren't lurking behind her at any given moment. by some small miracle, midge had managed to last almost a month without her lack of qualifications coming to head. in fact, she's on rather a high after decoding a message from a russian infleet — something she intended to milk for as long as possible. (thank god for dostoevsky and her 19 year-old self's party trick of quoting crime and punishment at parties in a bid to sound educated and romantic).
but midge had become restless quickly. stuck with the government drones, all male and all fighting for the last shred of arrogance at any given time. it was an endless pissing contest where very little actually got achieved. it was worse than the basement clubs; didn't smell much better either. it seemed once a man reached a certain rank he decided he didn't need to worry about cologne.
she'd noticed keiko quickly, even before that day on the beach. but that was when everything shifted. evidence of something else. a purpose. she saw it in the trio when they gathered and consoled the woman whose upset soon settled into a silent rage that midge understood better than most. she approached lee first. he's the most familiar — easy to read on the surface. he doesn't give nearly as much away as midge might have hoped, but her cover stays intact.
i want to understand them. not an outright lie, she just doesn't have the means or education. yet.
it's what lee lets slip that leads her to cornering keiko in a hallway one day. not the best impression, but subtlety had never been her style. "i want to be on your team."
#every day is an adventure and a mystery. | in character#thread.#expositicn#expositicn miriam t1#v: main.#racism mention cw#sexism mention cw
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Never put this man on my dash again.
<To be clear, dismissing rap as a genre (because some rappers are sexist) is small-minded and antiblack. Rap is a large umbrella over many different ideologies and musical styles. I do not agree with the people @prokopetz is criticizing.>
To handwave the sexism in mainstream commercial rap as “mildly regressive” is unforgivable. When Billboard Magazine’s “greatest rapper of all time” Jay-Z raps about “breaking hoes” on Big Pimpin’, is this mild to you, David? Look through the top 40, there are many such cases: Breaking hoes, tossing hoes, pimping - these lyrics celebrate rape and human trafficking. You are rightfully horrified by antisemitic lyrics, but when someone calls out hate speech against women it is “performative handwringing”? You are not a “social justice henchman”. You are a sexist man in progressive cosplay.
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Would anyone be interested in reading the essay I wrote about the romanticization of abuse and sexism in LGBTQIA manhwa and manga?
Edit: posted it
#yaoi#yaoi manhwa#yaoi bl#yaoi manga#essay#in this essay i will#cw sexism#cw sa implied#jinx manhwa#killing stalking is mentioned and so is jinx so tagging them ig#killing stalking#Wrote this while procrastinating
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Tue. 5/28/2024
"Women are too emotional"~
I've never punched a wall out of anger.
I've never assaulted someone because I was angry.
I've never hit a woman, man, or child out of anger.
I've never drunk myself into a stupor to avoid processing my emotions.
I've never become addicted to anything because I lacked self-control, used drugs or alcohol to suppress my emotions, or because it 'felt good'.
I've never had gambling or porn addictions.
I've never raped anyone.
I've never been an arsonist.
I've never committed a 'crime of passion'.
I've never taken my own life due to my emotions.
Claiming that women are too emotional is a weak and desperate attempt to undermine an entire gender. This kind of rhetoric is often used to justify subjugation.
Men are not only "just as emotional," but they are also more prone to acting on those emotions with threats and harmful actions.
This is why most domestic violence is committed by men and directed at women.
This is why most stalking is done by men.
This is why most intimate partner homicides are committed by men.
This is why 'restraining orders' are usually granted to women because of men.
This is why 'red flag laws' focus on removing firearms from men, who are more likely to use them.
Men can be extremely volatile. Anger is an emotion.
Men are in no position to use the argument of being "too emotional" to strip women of their rights and freedoms.
If society were to be structured based on emotional control, it would be a matriarchy, and most men would face severe restrictions or punishment.
The issue isn't about being "too emotional." The real problem is that women aren't men. Some men assume superiority despite evidence to the contrary.
When this argument arises, accountability is essential. Men can be just as emotional, and their unchecked anger has caused far more harm to innocent women, children, and society than compassion ever has. Historically, more innocents have been harmed by angry men professing love than by external threats.
When you consider the societal damage caused by men seeking sexual gratification and the resulting sex crimes and industries, it becomes clear that men can be far more destructive to society than women.
I'd welcome any statistical evidence that contradicts this.
#gender stereotypes#emotions#gender equality#sexism#male violence#patriarchy#gender roles#violence against women#misogyny#toxic masculinity#male privilege#domestic violence#feminism#fuck the patriarchy#tw rape#tw sa#tw abuse#cw rape#cw sa mention
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She's seen that face before.
It's one that would be hard to forget, given exactly when and where they had last - and first - crossed paths. After all, what in the world would explain the presence of a strange woman on Bikini Atoll, in civilian attire no less, when everyone else present but herself and Billy had strictly been military?
Yet here she is again, half a world away, standing in front of Keiko the middle of a military ball in Washington D.C. Not on the arm of any man, either; it's a feat that even Keiko hadn't managed, loathe as she is to admit it. She may be here as the brains of the outfit, as Lee had put it, but that means she's far from stupid. The rest of these men would never have taken her seriously if she had attended alone, if she didn't dress up how they expected her to and play their idiotic games.
And even then. One of the good ones.
Honestly, Keiko's more than ready to take the first excuse to get away from these old-fashioned white men and their asinine beliefs that she can.
(Besides, even if she hadn't been... How can she be expected to turn down such an enticing mystery walking right up and inviting her to find out more?)
When Keiko looks over at Lee, he's already looking back right back at her, brows furrowed in clear concern. Keiko only shakes her head slightly in return, before turning back toward the woman and nodding instead, gesturing for her to lead the way.
After one final glance Lee's way, Keiko steps forward alone.
@chasingtitans
it wasn't like there was much to do. she'd heard that there was some ball. some military thing happening that night - and maybe curiosity had gotten the best of her. carmilla plan was just to scope it out, probably not even go in and then leave. but there's a familiar face at the opening, someone who she had seen months prior, in a completely different setting. what were in the chances that they would even be in the same place again, anyways?
carmilla doesn't know any of these people truthfully. a few she's seen around, but none that she actually cared about. getting too close meant the possibility of being found - and that was the last thing she needed right now. but there was something different about the woman she was following inside, something that she couldn't shake. (even if she wanted to)
she's casual, clearing her throat as she approaches her, as if they had known each other forever. carmilla disregards the people surrounding her, eyebrows raising. "may i speak to you in private? apologizes for interrupting." in truth, she didn't really care that much.
#every day is an adventure and a mystery. | in character#dieasone#dieasone t1#thread.#v: main.#ft. lee shaw.#sexism mention cw#racism mention cw
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Quentin Quire: The Evolution from Morrison to Aaron
Over the past few years I’ve noticed that there’s a fairly sizable group of comic book fans who have taken issue with how the character Quentin Quire has been portrayed since his debut in New X-Men by Grant Morrison. Despite there being a lot of fans like myself who personally enjoyed Quire’s redemptive rehabilitation arc during Jason Aaron’s Wolverine & the X-Men arc into a quirky faux-rebel punk, there are quite a few readers who argue that redeeming Quire is inappropriate since Morrison originally framed them as being akin to a fascistic school-shooter during the Riot at Xaviers arc. I’ve discussed at length before about how I personally didn’t have an issue with future writers like Aaron redeeming Quire, especially since I personally really enjoyed how said-arc was handled in WATXM despite the more comedic shift in tone in regards to Quentin’s personality. However, one thing I recently realized was that despite fan-complaints that Aaron completely misunderstood Quire’s character or completely altered his personality, there are actually some subtle ways in which Aaron’s version of Quire is not only reflective of Morrison’s original characterization of him, but gradually abandons those initial negative traits in order to fulfill a positive-growth character arc.
So I was recently reading through a series of articles by ComicWatch editor Travis Hedge Coke titled “Examining New X-Men,” and in them Coke described Quire in those original Morrison stories as being portrayed as a misogynistic incel, stating that “Quire’s heterosexual jealousy throws him immediately into confrontation with men or boys he deems as challenges for the top position in the eyes of girls and women, he perceives girls and women as prizes as a reward for obtaining the top position… [and he] has incredible telepathic gifts including being subtly and intensely persuasive.”
And I will freely admit that... yeah... this kind misogynistic alpha-male behavior is on full display via Quire not only humiliating his fellow student Slick by essentially outing him telepathically through undoing an illusion of his idealized self due to low self-esteem about his actual appearance (consequently resulting in his girlfriend Tattoo rejecting him), but one of the reasons he staged the entire riot at Xavier’s was in a creepy attempt to impress one of the five Stepford Cuckoos.
Additionally, the article also suggested that Quire was also guilty of outright sexual assault since Slick’s aforementioned ex-girlfriend Tattoo immediately joins Quire���s “Omega Gang” and is madly in love with him, and following the riot one of Quire’s gang members desperately tries to convince Wolverine that they were all being mind-controlled by Quire. While Morrison leaves the story vague about whether or not this was actually true or just another lie from one of Quire’s followers to avoid accountability for their crimes, Xavier did state earlier in the arc that Quire’s telepathic abilities were “deep and subtle enough to influence the minds around him” when discussing his development of a cult-following in the form of the Omega Gang. Coke even went as far as to describe Morrison’s Quire as being akin to a younger, less rapey version of Wolverine’s arch-nemesis Sabretooth. It's also worth noting that there also exists subtle racialized undertones (ontop of gendered ones...) in the original Riot at Xavier's arc considering the white and fascistic Quire's overt manipulations of two Black characters in the form of Slick & Tattoo...
Furthermore, in a separate article for GraphicPolicy by Dani Kinney, despite her more charitable interpretation of Morrison’s Quire as someone who was driven to extremes due to frustration with Xavier’s flawed liberal-centrist approach in response to increasing human violence against other mutants, Kinney still criticizes Quire of being racially biased due to his victimization and exploitation of Slick and Tattoo respectively (both of which Morrison frames as bad things in the comic).
Interestingly, later when Quentin Quire began to undergo a rehabilitation arc in Jason Aaron's run on Wolverine & the X-Men (since Logan recognized Quire’s potential as a gifted student and telepath and didn’t want him to fall down the dark path of a mutant terrorist)...
...whether or Jason Aaron intended to or not he ended up showcasing Quire growing beyond the subtle characteristics of racism and misogyny that Morrison originally depicted during the character’s overtly villainous phase. For instance, throughout WATXM Quire begins to form a legitimate friendship and even romantic relationship with his fellow student Idie Okonkwo. Despite this, their first interaction showcases Quentin falling back on his old negative habits, making awkward pick-up lines and advances at Idie (which she hilariously sarcastically rejects in a nonchalant manner, and even Broo points out the inappropriateness of).
As the series progresses however, Quire begins to recognize Idie not as some prize but as a human being with her own autonomy. This is gradual shift first manifests during a school dance in the AVX tie-ins, where Quire is completely dumbfounded to see Idie uncharacteristically wanting to dance with him, even noting that she previously rejected his advances. This sudden shift in behavior for Idie was due to her worsening struggles with internalized-mutantphobia and religious trauma due to having been forced to kill someone by Cyclops in X-Men: Schism, feelings which were recently exacerbated by the Hellfire Brat’s gaslighting of her to give into what she mistakens to be her true “sinful, monstrous nature” via an android televangelist-style priest.
Quire's concerns Idie’s well-being and mental health only increase following an incident during the Frankenstein Murder Circus arc Idie nearly killing a sorceress a fit of traumatic rage due to she herself once nearly being burned at the stake by her Nigerian Catholic village when she first manifested her mutant powers.
This eventually culminates climatic Hellfire Academy arc wherein Quentin Quire actually infiltrates the Hellfire Brat’s supervillain-training school when he discovered Idie enrolled (both due to her worsening religious trauma and gaslighting, as well as wanting to investigate who shot her friend Broo and reduced him to a feral state), and seeks to rescue her from a that toxic environment. Unfortunately, Quire's rescue attempt backfires and he himself ends up getting captured and thrown into the Hellfire Academy's "detention room."
While Quire at this point hadn’t fully overcome his previous negative characteristics (he’s partially motivated by basic jealousy towards Broo and at one point thinks to himself that he might be forced to “telepathically coax” Idie into fleeing the Hellfire Academy), he simultaneously wants to prevent her from killing Broo’s shooter, as he wants to prevent her from going down a similar dark path that he previously did.
Furthermore, I don’t know if this was intentional or not but Aaron actually kinda sort of portrays Kade Kilgore, the Black King of the Hellfire Brats, as somewhat of a dark foil to Quentin Quire. Kilgore as he’s presented in WATXM is essentially like a younger but wealthier version of the kind of jerk Quire used to be during the Morrison New X-Men run. This is demonstrated not only through Kade expressing disappointment at Quire’s failure to live up to the standards of the supervillain academy due to Quentin’s past track record, but Kade is someone who actively manipulates and gaslights Idie by further feeding into her internalized mutantphobia and guilt over having killed before, all with the intent of influencing her into becoming both a murderous supervillain as well as his Black Queen of the Hellfire Club whom he would “have by his side at all times.”
And these are inappropriate behaviors which Kilgore undoubtedly picked up from his abusive corrupt billionaire father despite his own protestations to the contrary (in X-Men: Schism, Kade’s murder of his father was assisted by a secretary who wanted revenge for Kilgore Sr. sexually harassing her). Plus the Hellfire Club in general has a long history of being manipulative and possessive towards women, like with Jean Grey during the classic Dark Phoenix Saga.
So despite Kade claiming otherwise, the Hellfire Club’s misogynistic and manipulative behavior definitely seems to be generational.
In a sense, Kade Kilgore’s creepy & misogynistic manipulation of Idie is somewhat reflective of how Quire previously mistreated characters like Tattoo & Sophie Cuckoo during Morrison’s run. It also demonstrates that while Aaron mostly portrayed the Hellfire Brats as comedic joke-villains due to them being sociopathic spoiled rich 12-year-olds who murdered their parents and seized control over their corporate assets, he still fleshed out members like Kade Kilgore as being negatively influenced by the sexist & manipulative behaviors of his abusive father.
Fortunately however, Idie rejects both Kilgore’s gross manipulations and her own internalized-mutantphobia. While Idie initally seems to accept Kilgore’s offer of becoming his Black Queen, she did this solely just to trick Kilgore into confessing that he was the one who shot her friend Broo. And although Idie nearly went through with her plan to murder the little creep in retaliation, she he ultimately refuses to give into hatred and bloodshed (brought about by both her past religious trauma and the inhumane teachings of the literal supervillain academy) when she realizes that she is still capable of feeling love and and experiencing happiness after witnessing Toad of all people (he was the janitor at both the Jean Grey School & Hellfire Academy) refusing to kill a mentally unstable & murderous Husk (Paige was experiencing extreme mood swings due to a latent secondary mutation tying her emotions to her skin-shedding/transformation powers) because of the love they had developed for each other in previous issues of the series. Sparring Kilgore’s life, Idie then teams-up with Quire to rebel against and destroy the oppressive Hellfire Academy (a conclusion to WATXM’s running gag of Quire constantly fantasizing about instigating another riot and destroying the Jean Grey School).
And while some fans have argued that Quire & Idie becoming a couple creeped them out due to Idie being younger than him, I don’t have too much of a problem with it since was only a 2-year age gap between the two in Aaron’s run (Idie & Quire were 14 & 16 respectively; this was confirmed by the Jason Latour’s follow-up run on WATXM, which featured Quire having his 17th birthday), and seeing Quentin & Idie develop legitimate feelings for each other as they both underwent positive-change arcs actually felt kind of sweet IMO. Plus, Idie was the one who ultimately had to rescue Quire instead of the other way around due to his own rescue attempt FAILING, and the two co-lead the revolt against the Hellfire Brats.
Essentially, Aaron’s version of Quentin Quire felt like a more mature version of Morrison’s despite his new more comedic faux-rebel personality. Quentin by the end of WATXM was no longer a manipulative incel, but had instead evolved into someone who actually learned to respect the autonomy and personhood of not just women, but women of color in particular. This was something that completely flew over my head when I initially read WATXM, but after reading Travis Hedge Coke’s New X-Men articles I began to notice how vastly different Quire’s attitude and treatment towards Tattoo & Idie were, especially since both characters are Black girls. These are some deeper observations about Quentin Quire’s character development & positive change arc that I truly appreciate, since they make me realize that Aaron seemed to understand Quentin’s character a lot more than a lot of fans give him credit for. Sadly though, all this does seem to be lost on a lot of fans due to not just having prior memories Morrison’s more villainous portrayal of Quire, but also due to series which came after Aaron’s WATXM such as Christina Strain’s run on Generation X apparently having Quentin Quire regress into being rude and condescending towards Idie… sigh, oh well that’s the downside of having different writers with different interpretations I guess…
Overall, I'm not against redeeming Quentin Quire like a lot of other fans are since Wolverine in Jason Aaron's run was following in the footsteps of Charles Xavier's philosophy. Logan wanted to give Quire a second-chance and try and mold him into something better than a potential future mutant-terrorist, which he ultimately ended up succeeding in. And while Quentin still boasts about wanting to be the bad kid who destroys the Jean Grey School, most of it is now him being a faux-pretentious brat as he never exploited any opportunity to do so and instead developed empathy with his fellow students, and over the course of WATXM Quire developed leadership skills and even went out of his way to rescue the X-Men at several points in Aaron's series. His faux-rebel attitude is played more for laughs now.
Plus, the X-Men in general have a long history of trying to redeeming or rehabilitating supervillains like Magneto, Mystique, Juggernaut, and even Apocalypse and Mister Sinister.
So why is Quentin Quire off limits for a redemption arc then? Heck, I'd personally argue that Mister Sinister being allowed a seat on Krakoa's Quite Council is far more egregious considering that in past continuity Sinister was literally a Nazi scientist who was present at the Auschwitz death camp.
That seems far worse to me than Wolverine trying to redeem a delinquent teenager who once staged a half-assed riot at Xaviers...
#quentin quire#kid omega#new x men#wolverine and the x men#grant morrison#jason aaron#idie okonkwo#stepford cuckoos#hellfire club#hellfire brats#hellfire academy#wolverine#james logan howlett#riot at xaviers#omega gang#marvel comics#x men comics#mini essay#cw: misogynoir mention#cw: sexism mention#cw: anti-black racism mention#cw: religious trauma mention
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Steve Cobs' Parents
CW for sexist beliefs (I do not support the beliefs) and abuse mentions
Introducing Chester Husk and Sarah Cobs! They are Cobs' parents!
Chester Husk was based on Elon Husk (someone's OC) and Chester V from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2. He is an abuser and a firm believer in "boys can't cry."
Sarah Cobs was more based on Steve Cobs himself. She is an enabler out of fear of being abused.
#inanimate insanity#object show oc#object show#object shows#object oc#ii oc#cw#cw abuse mention#cw sexism
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I think Valerie and Amiri should be friends.
It's also interesting how they have unique struggles with sexism based on their culture.
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thinking about how harlan ellison wrote "a boy and his dog" with rape and murder and post apocalyptic brutalities in it, but it was clearly the author exploring these themes himself until he allowed it to be made into a movie and that movie over emphasized the graphic nature of rape culture and misogyny for shock value which made ellison >:( but he's literally the one who made those themes part of the plot and doesn't like that other people were more influenced by them than whatever he meant the story to actually be about
it's like writing a story where all the black characters are racist stereotypes because it fits the setting and thinking nothing of it until it becomes a major motion picture that magnifies that racism and then the author stands there like "...well when you say it like that it sounds bad" because it was always bad you just weren't thinking about it you were focused on something else and forgot other people will pick up different messages than just the ones you intended
#harlan ellison#a boy and his dog#vagueposting margaret mitchell#tw sa mention#cw racism#cw sexism#cw rape#og#dnly rants
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DO NOT READ IF YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO CW TAGS MENTIONED.
Hey guys, so, seems like I have a secret admirer who honours me by dropping anon hate in my inbox daily. Sometimes even twice. I won't give them the satisfaction of publishing their very unsettling messages, but know my friends:
If you get this obsessed with a random person on the internet and dedicate time to keep creating profiles to be able to access anonymous asks and send in messages full of suicide baiting, sexism, racism, transphobia and ableism...you should seek help. Really.
That's all I'm going to say about this.
Seek help, you have serious mental issues and you need treatment before this hatred eats you up. I'm concerned for the safety of you and people around you.
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