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yall act like wendy bebe and heidi are like the plastics in mean girls. you think wendy is regina because for some reason she would bully everyone, especially freshmen. Like hell she would, sheâd probably stick up for them. Tall think Bebe is Karen Smith or some shit because you make her out to be some slutty dumbass bimbo whoâs only purpose is being eye candy for Clyde. And as if Heidi would be friends with people who are that mean. She said she wanted to change and I believe she can and would. Idk. I hate the way fandom portrays girls. Not that the way M&T do it is any better at this point.
#seriously who hurt them#iâm not offended but like#i hate when girls are only portrayed as gossiping bitches who will either braid your hair or eat your heart in a matter of minutes#anyway#south park#skipper speaks#wendy testaburger#bebe stevens#heidi turner#mean girls#though whatâs wrong with me could be a song for heidi when she was with eric
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The way fans on the st sub are almost all in agreement Nancy ending up with neither Jon nor Steve wouldnât be the worst thing in the world, and how they can even come up with a sleuth of reasons as to why, honestly pretty valid and fair reasons, but then are absolutely gobsmacked when fans merely speculate something along those lines for El is, quite something.
#el hopper#byler#platonic elmike#stranger things#this is coming from someone who ADORED mileven in s1-2#I literally skipped all of s2 in my rewatch before s3 aired bc I just wanted to see their reunion#then s3 happened#and I was confused at#A LOT of ppl are#and anyone coming to voice that confusion is ran off Reddit like theyâre committing a crime#like would it hurt yâall to have some of the same common sense you have for el like you do with Nancy#??#I am more jancy leaning but also I just feel like itâs certain stancy ainât happening#but Iâm also not totally against Nancy wanting to be on her own for a while#maybe theyâd imply jancy Will find their way back to each other#maybe theyâre teamed up in s5 and wait until the very end to cement that certainty for each other#but I would not hate their stories if Nancy and Jon decided to live their own lives#FOR THEMSELVES#Nancy doing what she wants and loves#Jonathan doing what he wants instead of just doing stuff that helps people around him#and Iâm not going to even get into the reasons why el and mike would benefit from living for themselves outside of their relationship#the attachment to the ship is stronger than any sort of attachment to the character#and when the things keeping them together are not strong to begin withâŠ#that attachment is doomed and hard to watch and enjoy like idgi at all#also; all the pro-ronance comments on there getting like 30+ likes??#go ronance I guess??!??#idk if itâs because they think byler actually has a serious possibility while ronance has less build up#so they can sort of play with that idea without actually having to take it seriouslyâŠ#at least ronance has a positive audience on there#a win is a win I guess đđ«Ą
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I can't believe it the thetehe bed!NN the bed!!!! They gave them a bed to sleep in for their little sleep over I'm so happy I always loved the official art of them watching TV eating snacks and clementines (oranges???)....... Suddenly thinking of that "I'd peel an orange for you" thing....... Wah
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#im gonna collapse today my hips hurt from standing but ahhhhh im gonna seriously fall asle- snorr#thank you to the kind people who pointed it out because i rarely ever look at merch not to be upset that I cant afford it#haha they know what theyre doing. the fujoshi are a mighty audience#NOW which of them is the bigger spoon#im so gonna draw them im gonna wake ip and drawr tehm a redraw a sleepovee r redrats#im going to bed now caus ei cant see what im typinh#AND SO ARE THEY!!!!!!!!! in their shared futon#reimob#mobrei#mp100
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The audacity to be like "there's a problem with racism in transandrophobia discussions" while also unironically using the term "transandrophobia truther(s)"
#Jean mumbles#Of course there will almost always be racism in discussions of oppression#But like...bro are you really going to say this and then side with the exact same people#Who have constantly erased and silenced the voices of trans men of color and other marginalized trans men#Calling them shit like white-aligned or overall gatekeeping their blackness#Are you seriously not seeing how that call is coming from inside the house#And again - truther is something that has very heavy ties to antisemitism#So again. Are you really the hero because of this?#Are you actually helping people here?#Now I'm white so obviously take what I say here with as many grains of salt as you feel is best#But all I'm saying is that racism is fucking everywhere and there is not a single group in this discussion who is guilt free#And right now you're participating in the violent act of erasing and silencing the voices of non-white and non-gentile trans men and mascs#I wish the best to anyone who has fallen for this pandering bullshit#And a huge apology to all the trans m&ms this bullshit hurts#Transandrophobia#(Gatekeeping blackness but also just non-white raced and ethnicities in general)
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Imagine being a victim of sexual assault by a very famous author, making the choice to come forward despite all fears, and then seeing people online decide that youâve lied or thereâs âmore to the storyâ because they love the author so âbelieve victimsâ doesnât apply in this scenario. Then imagine having to live with that.
#I never want to see the people claiming this is a conspiracy with HUNDREDS of notes on here EVER saying they believe victims#your behaviour is performative at best and deeply hurtful at worst#do you understand how people will feel reading this stuff. are you aware people who have been victims of assault can read your posts and se#see*#you donât believe them when it suits you. I mean seriously are you aware of this.#talking about how shit tortoises politics are when youâre a rape apologist LMAO thereâs no way#I feel like tumblr has just discovered something called journalism#sometimes people you donât like politically break a good solid story#neil gaiman
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girl who has always ended up bottoming & being treated like a sub despite wanting to top and feel the thrill of dominance x girl who has only ever topped and been expected to dom despite wanting to bottom and submit to someone
#transhet yuri#woof woof#nsft#txtp#t4t#im the top who has only bottomed and no one takes me seriously as a dom bc im small and need them to actually WANT me to dom idk it hurts
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There are only two episodes left in The Boys S4, but having seen the leaks and with what we got, I have some opinions.
My conspiracy theory is that they got too many cooks in the kitchen (writers in the writerâs room)âplus the writerâs strike and pandemic happening during this timeâand itâs starting to make sense how they dropped the ball with this season.
#the boys#the boys tv#the boys amazon#the boys season 4#the boys season four#S1-3 is like a sharp honed blade (with occasional misses) whereas S4 swings a lot but misses their target#I like a handful of things (Antony Starr and Karl Urban are CARRYING the season for me)#God; Antonyâs back must hurt from carrying the show so hard (give the man an Emmy)#but there are so many more moments in the show that falls flat for me#my interest in the secondary cast is virtually nonexistent (and this is coming from a person who likes them all)#I do not care about Joe; I do not care about the Frenchie & Colin B-plot; I do not care about Annieâs randomly thrown in abortion (???)#thereâs a lotta wasted character moments and unnecessary fluff they shouldâve cut out to laser focus in on the main plot#the character moments do not hit as hard as the writers hoped they did (it feels like they just threw random darts & hoped they hit)#this season feels like a waste of time :/ which is unfortunate#I like edgy dark humor & satire as the next guyâbut itâs gotta advance the plot or be used for a purpose other than shock value#it doesnât help that you get the sense a couple script decisions is a result of Kripke wanting to work with ppl he wants to work with again#whichâfair enough; itâs his showâhe can do whatever he wants#but I get a weird feeling when he throws in celebrity cameos & their B-plots instead laserfocusing on the main characters#I hope they tighten the story in the final season 5#they focused too much on the wrong things and not on the right things (seriously?? not showing Butcher taking the V??? making it offscreen?)#and the tentacles instead of making Butcherâs powers ironically parallel the very man he hates :/#the obvious Venom symbiote parody is not as funny or cool as you think it is (when you had a VERY cool premise before)
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I LOVE AND APPRECIATE MY FRIENDS WITH NPD đđđđđđđ„đ„đ„ OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#npd#narcassistic personality disorder#one of my best friends has npd and he gets SO MUCH SHIT CONSTANTLY#I canât imagine how exhausting it must be#yeah. itâs one of the coolest guys I know and I hate how much misinformation narcissism is subject to#I'd recommend researching the disorder and asking your npd loved ones how you can help them manage their disorder!!#god warning it is so hard to find information on npd that isnât âmy EVIL narcissist friend and how I isolated and hurt them#as punishment for their disorder!!â#Id suggest asking people who have npd about their experiences#seriously. god I believed the stigma before I got a friend with npd and itâs so so wrong#yeah. unfollow me right fucking now if you believe that narcassists are inherently abusive and evil and unable to have good relationships#STOP DEMONISING DISORDERS
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Did christian linke actually do anything wrong beyond saying he didnât see jayvik as romantic or are you guys just losing your shit over a difference of opinion?
#dex rants#genuinely I canât tell cause you guys are acting like he shot someoneâs dog#seriously yall are saying his name like a curse or smthing#unless he actually did something wrong you gotta fuckin calm down#people are gonna disagree with you especially on something like this so what#unless heâs harassing people I donât see the issue#however it seems like a lot of you guys are starting to harass people instead#I must ask is it really appropriate to turn someone into the enemy over something so harmless?#people view character relationships different all the time due in part to opinion and personal experience#personally Iâm jayvik crazy I think of them as painfully annoyingly and frustratingly gay for each other however my friend sees them as an-#extension of his close friendships and how heâd go that far without any romance holding him to it#this doesnât hurt me nor does it hurt him for feeling that way#but it does hurt to harass someone incessantly and twist words into daggers#you need to learn to move on#take a nice deep breath and say âwe disagreeâ and instead focus on enjoying yourself with the people who agree#christian linke#arcane#arcane spoilers#every year that passes I realize people are so quick to anger#often times they make themselves the most upset with their own feelings#itâs kinda frustrating liking popular mlm ships because so often people resort to arguing over actually enjoying themselves#jayvik Iâm so sorry theyâre doing this to you#and before you say âwell what if you held this opinion on [serious matter]???â weâre not talking about anything else weâre just talking-#about shipping okay?#different situations have different nuance#anyways Iâm gonna go make a jayvik playlist and kick n my feet and giggle looking at these fuckin 30 year old men /gen
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i think what undertale fangames should really strive for is to push undertale's themes of mercy to the edge - push the PLAYER to see what their limits are on who deserves mercy.
#like for example.#someone who's having some sort of psychotic break and trying to hurt you. can you really justify killing them just because they were trying#to kill you? even though they would have snapped out of it eventually? even though they didn't actually WANT to kill you?#some would say you're justified to kill that person in self defense because you might have died if you didn't.#remember that there's always a power imbalance between humans and monsters. the human always has more power to end the conflict peacefully.#how about someone who's killed before? not someone like asgore or flowey where the situation's intricacies run deep.#this person simply murdered another monster because they wanted to. because they had something to gain from it#physically or emotionally. let's say he poisoned his lovely father to get his inheritence.#he is not fighting YOU to kill you for some petty gain - he's doing it for some other reason.#perhaps he's fighting you with no intent to kill - just âto deter you from doing something that could ruin his life. or perhaps he intends t#kill you for a good reason.#can you justify taking his life because of what he did before?#the answers to these may seem obvious to you. but there are many who do believe it is within your right to kill these people.#this game should push them to reconsider their stance on this topic.#when you spare everyone because 'it's an undertale game and that's what you're supposed to do' sometimes you can miss out. and miss the poin#many people would be like 'i'm supposed to spare this guy? seriously? that's stupid.' and do it snyway because it's what you're 'supposed'#to do because it's an undertale game and the lesson is 'killing is bad.' they don't stop to reconsider WHY they think it's ridiculous to be#asked to spare these people.#i want to make an undertale fangame where at the beginning it says something like#'Don't just spare characters because this is an Undertale game and that's what you're 'supposed' to do. I want you to actually think about#the decision. Decide for YOURSELF what you think you should do in these situations. And really consider why you feel that way. Ultimately#the choice is up to you - that's the point of the game.'
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Anyway, I literally just blocked someone over this this morning, so casual reminder that no one is ever obligated to forgive anyone. And it is not your place to pressure them to forgive the people who hurt them for any reason.
#rhys-ravenfeather signing on#seriously though#STOP IT#STOP PRESSURING PEOPLE TO FORGIVE THE PEOPLE WHO HURT THEM#i've gotten enough of that in my own life
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i have absolutely NO patience for anyone being shitty or judgmental or othering about addicts, not just because of my ethical principles and baseline compassion for other human beings, but because i have personal experience with how inseparable substance abuse is from mental illness and other kinds of inescapable suffering. i got high on cannabis and benzos all day long, 6 days a week for two years because i had severe treatment-resistant depression (aka i had tried EVERY legal treatment available without improvement). when i found a medication that made it go away almost entirely, i dropped down to maybe 3 times a month purely for fun and after my day's responsibilities are done, within days of starting to feel better. and now i feel like shit again and i've been getting high several times a week as literal self-medication. because, you know, i'm in horrible pain and it would be cruel and inhuman for someone to tell me i had to ignore the one tool i had access to that would reduce my suffering, just so i wouldn't be an ~addict~, which is of course the worse most disgusting worthless thing a person can be.
i know that there are many addictions that are more physically damaging and that people continue to crave physiologically even when they start recovering from the mental or physical pain that drove them to drugs in the first place. i am very, very fortunate that due to my life circumstances i have no access to meth or heroin or more dangerous stuff like that. but it is sure as hell a lot less difficult to resist even those cravings when the pain that they were used to alleviate is drastically reduced!!!
anyway this is all just me restating the rat town study that proved almost all drug addiction is caused by capitalism and/or trauma, and weakening capitalism and building rewarding caring societies eliminates substance abuse almost entirely. why the fuck would you scream at and shame people experiencing unspeakably terrible pain rather than the forces and people who caused/failed to treat that pain?
#substance abuse#drugs#btw im also saying this as someone who is having my actual medication stolen on an ongoing basis by someone employed in my house#who i have an enormous amount of power and social capital over and who lives a much harder and more stressful life than me#when it happens i call in a new rx and find a better hiding place for the stealable stuff and move on with my life#(im not saying this is the Right thing to do btw. obviously a LOT of people can't just get a replacement supply a few days later#or the financial burden or replacing them is higher#and they would be 100% justified in confronting and firing the person who is doing serious harm to them and demanding financial recompense)#im not saying this to prove im a Good Person im saying it to show that i genuinely believe the shit im saying in this post#i do not judge addicts who aren't trying to stop using#if it was someone who was seriously hurting me because of it i would definitely get angry and hurt and maybe cut them out of my life#but anyone else? including internet strangers and the hypothetical masses of Bad Junkies?#there's no ethical excuse for judging them and treating them like shit. period.#frankly if you even have deep strong negative feelings about them (besides like...sadness) i'm deeply suspicious of you
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personally i think spicytok/dark romance memes poking fun at the ridiculousness of some of it is all good fun but if you seriously take 'issue' with adult women being excited to read smut that appeals to their interests within a community of likeminded people who want to hear about it & share recommendations... you do realize you're just shaming women for having sexuality right
#you dont have to like it! good thing they all do it in their own community so its not being thrown in your face#seriously have no respect for people who point and laugh at booktok/dark romance girlies like they are literally hurting no one#also please dont come into my dms talking about 'well actually booktok is problematic bc..' i know there have been dramas ok#i never skip a withcindy video like i KNOW#but a couple of controversies is not indicative of the mass#its literally just adult women talking abt smut together LEAVE THEM ALONE#and ppl who mock women for reading romance/YA/smut and say its not 'real' lit and say shit like 'booktok cant read'#why does it bother you? why?#because theyre having fun? theyre doing something that brings them joy as a recreational activity?#who the fuck reads 'normal' 'smart' books anyways#like seriously. do YOU?#ill read anything#one of my fave books of all time is Norwegian wood by murakami#the other one is heaven officials blessing by mxtx#guess which one i post about everyday?#we all say 'god forbid women do anything' but it isn't a joke. GOD FORBID WOMEN DO ANYTHING
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Shameless -- Ian Gallagher 5x12-7x11 Defence!!
I'm going to start this off by saying I love all the characters. (Minus the obvious...) I despise the way so many fans talk about Ian. I HATE the narrative that Mickey deserved better than him, that Ian was always wrong in every disagreement. I seriously do.
The one I hate the most is Ian not going to Mexico with Mickey. He was NOT wrong for that. In the slightest. In fact, I'm sorry, but Mickey was wrong for asking him to.
Ian had worked so hard to build a life for himself. He fought so hard to become an EMT. He worked so hard to get to a stable place. And he's just supposed to abandon all of that? Ditch his family who he loves. Leave the job he worked so hard for that he loves. Totally risk his mental health due to not having access to proper health care due to the fact that he would become a fugitive had he gone with him, plus the instability of a life on the run would've been terrible for him.
And yes, in S8 he did end up manic, and he did end up a fugitive and then in prison and losing his job. But he didn't know that was going to happen. He DID know it would definitely have happened if he'd gone to Mexico with Mickey. And if by some miracle they managed to stay out of prison, he never would've been able to see his family again. I know everyone loves to say Mickey was the only support system he needs or whatever, but that's just NOT true in the slightest. Ian loves his family. His siblings mean the world to him.
And you know what? In the long run, him not going was much better for both of them. If he'd gone, they would've just spent the rest of their lives on the run in Mexico as fugitives, he'd likely never be in a very good place with his bipolar, and it'd just be them and I truly think they'd have grown to resent each other. But with him not going, Mickey ended up turning himself back in when he went to Prison, and ended up getting let out the right way meaning they could actually have a life together where they had other family, Ian could take care of his bipolar properly, and there likely won't be any resentment.
Now look, I love Mickey. And I totally understand him. He's got so much trauma. But I'm gonna be pretty critical of him right now. Mostly because no one ever seems to be and I need to point this out.
He was in Prison for a crime he DID commit. He drugged Sammi. He planned to torture her. He thought he'd killed her. And hey, I hate Sammi and I honestly do enjoy those scenes between Mickey and Debbie. But at the end of the day, he DID commit the crime he was arrested for.
And I hate people saying that Ian should understand he did that for him and that he was in prison for Ian. NO!
Ian never asked him to do that. It wasn't for Ian. I'm sorry, but it just wasn't. To me, doing things FOR someone it HAS TO BE something they'd actually WANT done. Or that would actually benefit them.
Ian never would've wanted them to go after Sammi like that. And it wasn't going to do him any good either. She was leaving. She hurt him in a TERRIBLE way and she needed some sort of consequences, but at the end of the day that wasn't doing anything for Ian.
What he'd needed at that point was stability. Ian obviously got out of Military Prison and ran off with Monica, then came back and broke up with Mickey. But I honestly believe that if Mickey hadn't then been arrested Ian would've found his way back to him pretty quickly, I mean just look at Ian during that scene. He was NOT okay. He was on the verge of a depressive episode. And he felt he was hurting Mickey by keeping him around, and he also was feeling like everyone just saw him as something that needed to be fixed. I mean, he was on his meds from the start of S6! I truly think that had Mickey not been arrested, they would've been able to work things out.
But instead Mickey was arrested. And I truly think Ian was really hurt at learning what went down. It wasn't about Sammi, he couldn't care less about her. I don't even think it was even about Mickey trying to kill/torture her.
I mean, look at it from Ian's perspective for a moment. He's just opened up to Mickey about how shitty his meds make him feel, he feels he's getting somewhere with Mickey being his partner again instead of his caretaker, then MP's show up and arrest him and he's in Military Prison. And what does Mickey decide to do? Torture Sammi. Get revenge. Sometimes revenge isn't what someone needs. At that point in time, Ian needed stability. I think in his mind, Mickey took this huge risk at the time he needed him the most and it got him in prison. And I think that would've hurt him. But I also think he would feel a lot of guilt, because Mickey's excuse for it was that he did it FOR IAN. And I will always hate things like that.
People say Ian just abandoned Mickey in Prison. But I honestly think Ian felt abandoned by Mickey too.
So yeah, Mickey was in Prison because he committed a crime. Then he escaped. And I get it. No one wants to be in Prison. But people act like he was in there for a crime he didn't commit and that just isn't true.
Ian didn't owe Mickey anything. Him not going to Mexico was NOT a betrayal. It was him realising that it wouldn't be a good idea. For either of them. He gave him ALL HIS MONEY! And that is HUGE for a Gallagher. He grew up with so little money. They were barely scraping by so often. And he was finally making a stable income, he had SAVINGS, and he gave it ALL to Mickey. Because at the end of the day, even though he knew he couldn't go with him, he wanted Mickey to be okay. And he WANTED TO GO! You can see it that Ian wanted to go. But he knew he couldn't.
And while we're at it. Fiona wasn't wrong for telling Ian that Mickey would set a match to the life he'd built. HE WAS A FUGITIVE! It's not even about Mickey as a person. It's about the fact that Ian never could've had a stable life with him while he was a fugitive having escaped from prison. (Honestly, I could write so much about Fiona and Lip and the narrative that they always treated Mickey terribly and never gave him a chance. I will defend the Gallaghers forever. They've fucked up, but this is something I will ALWAYS defend them on!! And I might make a post about this another time...)
In conclusion, Ian loves Mickey. Mickey loves Ian. But Ian was not wrong to not go to Mexico, and I maintain that Mickey shouldn't have asked him to. I just genuinely don't think he stopped to think about the damage it would do to Ian's mental health, which is understandable as he was in a very stressful situation. But people need to stop villainising Ian for choosing to do what was best for them both.
#shameless#ian gallagher#mickey milkovich#i love mickey#i really do#but sometimes i get really fed up with his fans#he's one of those characters who i love but hate how little he's criticised#or held accountable#everyone around him is villainised#he's just got severe trauma#but they're all monsters apparently#no. they all have severe trauma#they're all allowed to have reactions to said trauma#everyone is allowed feelings#not just him#and i'm not saying ian didn't hurt him in these moments#because of course he did#breakups hurt#but lets not pretend all the hurt was one sided#whenever mickey does something that hurts ian everyone is quick to jump to his defense#oh it wasn't really mickey#it was the trauma from terry#but the second ian does something that hurts mickey#he's the devil and mickey deserves better#and it seriously makes me so angry#and it's not just mickey#it's the same with mandy#who i also adore!#but people have this bias towards the milkoviches#like they're always the victims and the gallaghers are always hurting them
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Well would you look at this. đ”âđ« Because obviously if you dare say anything as wild and controversial as âlesbians donât like men, please stop using a label that hurts us and tries to force men into our identityâ youâre a raging terf radfem transmisogynist. Because obviously ONLY trans women use the bi lesbian label and itâs not like there are transfem lesbians who are rightfully against the label as well or anything and itâs not like terfs use the label to refer to cis lesbians who date trans women and why canât you just let people identify as how they want of course lesbians like men stop the infighting already if you disagree with me that lesbians can like men then surely thatâs because youâre an exclusionist gatekeeper who hates trans women.
#lesbian#anti-bi lesbian#trans women#lesbophobia#the raging hatred for lesbians on this site is getting to an all-time high y'all will stop at NOTHING to gaslight us and make us out to be#hateful terf bitches for our sexuality#how many times are we going to do this same old song and dance#no i will not calm down i will be taken seriously#you CANNOT be a bi women as a lesbian idfc if youâre trans or cis#lesbians do not like men and bi women shouldnât have to âpick a sideâ by calling themselves lesbians#itâs absurd maddening and sad how little yâall respect us#and trans women always have a place in the lesbian community that doesnât mean that ACTUAL MEN DO#shit#trying to frame this as âwell you must be a terf if you are against bi lesbiansâ is a shitty move and youâre not being original or clever#go fuck yourself#trans lesbians exist and are valid and the bi lesbian label hurts them just like it hurts cis lesbians if anything it hurts them more so#and i will block ANYONE who supports bi lesbians it doesnât matter if theyâre a trans woman a cis woman a trans man non-binary etc idfc#stop trying to frame this as exclusionary radfem rhetoric#bi lesbian as a term DOES support corrective rape idgas what lesbophobes like you want to say about it#thatâs all goodbye#sorry but this got me mad you do not get to use transmisogyny as a clutch to spout blatant ass lesbophobia#iâm so tired of this shit#blocklist#op
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When talking about some ships, people always seem to forget that they aren't in an actual abusive relationship. And I'm tired of reading always the same thing about them. They always say they're abusive, but I'm here to tell you that no, these two ships aren't abusive. Not at all.
First, about the "Bakudeku."
In Boku No Hero episode 1, before Bakugo and Izuku were classmates in the UA, Bakugo told Izuku "kys", that's true. And Bakugo abused Izuku, that's also true. But tell me one thing. During their time in UA, Bakugo hurt Izuku like a partner would? Yeah, he called him "Deku" (and we all know what that word means), but apart from that, what did he do to Midoriya for you to call him abusive? And last time I watched the anime, at the beginning, their friendship before going to UA was only one-sided (that's what implied the moment when Bakugo rejected his help to get up in the river when they were still kids) and they weren't a couple, so technically you can't even call Bakugo an abusive friend, much less an abusive partner. First, have that in mind.
Secondly, after Bakugo apologized to Izuku for hurting him, do you think he would ever dare to hurt him again? Because it's not believable. After Bakugo's apology, he would never hurt Izuku, not in a emotional nor in a physical way.
And thirdly, are you so worried about people shipping this couple, which is not even canon and there are fanfics/fanarts where their relationship is VERY healthy (and I'm sure they wouldn't be toxic even if they were canon, not after Bakugo's apology), when there is A LOT of ACTUALLY TOXIC canon ships????
Now, talking about Catradora
So we all know what happened between them since the beginning of the show, right? They were friends, later they became enemies, then they became relluctant-allies, until they became friends again and finally, at the end of the show, they became lovers. When talking about "Catradora", anti-Catradora's fans always say Catra is toxic towards Adora, and they also say the Catradora is a toxic ship. But... where is the toxicity in their romance? Well, better said- their "ex-friends who became enemies and then they became lovers at the end of the show" relationship. Can you read that? Because that's exactly what happened in the show.
Catra and Adora were friends when they were in the Fright Zone, until Adora discovered the sword and she became She-Ra. Then, she switched sides, going through a Heel-Face turn because she discovered she was in the bad side all along. You know what happened after that? Exactly, Catra and Adora became enemies. And since the beginning of the show, and until season 5, they still were enemies. Not friendly-rivals, not friends, and not lovers. They were enemies. And correct me if I'm wrong, (which I'm not) but you're not supposed to treat your enemy kindly or gently. They are your enemy and not anything else for a reason. They're not your partner, your friend or nothing like that. You hate them. You want to see them destroyed. Because they're your enemy.
But we all know there's a little thing called "enemies to lovers". You know that exists, right? The trope where two enemies who hurt each other become a couple? The trope where two people from opposite sides come to terms and they are no longer fighting each other? Yes? You know that trope? Because that's exactly what happens in this show.
Their relationship is like this: friends-enemies-friends-lovers. And if we watched the same show (I doubt that because if we watched the same show you wouldn't be saying Catradora is toxic) you should be aware that they become a couple at the end of the show. You should be aware that we don't see them being abusive towards each other when they are a couple. And again, as I said in another post, "A" character hurting "B" character when they are in opposite sides is not the same as "A" character hurting "B" character when they are an actual couple. So, therefore, Catradora can't be toxic because we didn't see them being abusive when they were girlfriends.
#bakugo katsuki#izuku midoriya#anti anti bakudeku#anti anti bkdk#pro bakudeku#bakudeku#bkdk#bakugo x deku#anti anti catradora#pro catradora#catradora#it's so annoying to read this#mostly because there are canon toxic straight ships#and people don't pay attention to them#but when the ship is about two girls or two boys who hurt each other when they weren't friends or lovers#everyone gets angry that there's a ship like that#seriously people#if you criticize a ship like bakudeku or catradora#criticize straight canon toxic ships too#because if you don't i'm just gonna assume you have a problem with lgbt canon/semi-canon/fanon ships.
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