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Gotta love how the Gravity Falls fandom still has no media literacy and is putting out the worst """character analysis""" videos known to man.
#gravity falls#fandumb#they're the same picture#ford pines#stanford pines#grunkle ford#mabel pines#victim blaming tw#fandom ableism#fandom misogyny#filthy ford apologist squad#ford defense squad#ford protection squad#mabel defense squad#mabel protection squad#honestly saying an autstic-coded abuse victim is a “bad person” unironically is a WILD take oml. please never take to an abuse victim.#for that matter never talk to an autistic person either.#also they're lowkey a filbrick defender#cause they blamed FORD for stan getting kicked out. like what.#sure let's blame the kid living in an abuse home. that's not backwards at all.#abuse apologia tw#also ford had every right to be pissed at stan over the science project.#and blaming a 12 year old for the apocalypse is WILD.#so is blaming the victim of the demon (who started the apocalypse) btw.
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I feel like if Izzy had made Stede stab him for his own (sexual?) gratification, at gunpoint, we'd be seeing posts calling him a rapist, is all I'm saying.
Because literally everything he does, short of breathing, gets spun in the worst possible way until you'd not even sure you're watching the same show.
#I don't think that scene is abusive#because it's clearly not intended to be in context#what I'm saying is that izzy seems to get assigned the worst possible motives#in every scenario#by certain corners of the fandom#while ed gets everything he does handwaved away as being not his fault or not bad to begin with#even when they do very similar things or even participate in the same action i.e. marooning the crew#edward teach critical#tw rape#izzy hands#izzy hands apologist
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endeavor apologists are nuts, cause now we’re going to have to have the same convos with anime only as the convos people were having way back when the todoroki abuse was really delved into. people saying “touya had it better” “he was given choices” “enji was being a good dad, he didn’t want touya to hurt himself” like??? bro “didn’t want touya to hurt himself” in the same way a flame doesn’t want to be put out. enji completely neglected touya and pushed him onto rei so he didn’t have to face the responsibility himself. sure, maybe deep down enji the father didn’t want his son to hurt himself but we all know he was upset that touya wouldn’t be able to accomplish what he was born to do. touya todoroki wasn’t a loved child that enji cared about. he was a failure, his first failure among 3 others until he forced rei to have shoto. that’s why his name means “arrow” because his only purpose was to surpass endeavor the hero and all might his rival. enji todoroki is a coward who abused his whole family, including touya. enji todoroki is a selfish man who only wanted children and wife so he could get what he wanted. fuck enji, fuck endeavor.
#i really don’t understand enji apologists#like we all watched/read the same thing#why do you guys not understand there are different forms of abuse#touya was 13#bnha spoilers#mha spoilers#bnha#dabi#touya todoroki
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I'm sorry but seeing this post:
On the same blog as this post:
Is actually so fucking funny
#im sorry but how do you even read any books with your head that far up your own ass?#'literal abuser' LMFAO#he's as much of a 'literal abuser' as rhys or cass#like i get not liking tamlin#and i get liking rhys and cassian despite the fact that they're abusive#but you can't forgive rhys and cass for their behaviors bc 'they're fictional fae'#while also calling tamlin fans abuse apologists for doing the exact same thing#like ?????????#are y'all okay?
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gotta love that people will scream about how people like me are abuse apologists and that we defend abusers and how lack of empathy instantly makes you evil but like all I wanna do is point out that a lot of abuse recovery 'help' is ableist as fuck
Like they say people with autism shouldn't be allowed to have kids cause 'they throw tantrums due to emotional dysregulation and they lack empathy and can only care for children in a clinical way' and I see way too many people attack the shit outta severely disabled siblings for having the gall to need a care taker and for 'forcing their sibling to take care of them! So evil' rather than get pissed off at the parents who ACTUALLY forced the able sibling to take care of them and didn't properly care for either and acting like the disabled sibling doesn't exist at all and that any abuse a person with a developmental or psychotic disorder suffers is 'justified not only is putting up with you hard but also your too stupid and delusional to be believed and your natural naivety and psychotic makes taking away your autonomy necessary!'
They kick people with BPD out of groups because they interpret symptoms of BPD in the most abusive way possible and out right state people with npd can't be abuse victims and kick them out of groups because 'they're the abusive ones' like uh they can be abusive but none of npd or bpd's listed symptoms translate directly to 'abusive asshole' y'all make a huge stink about how there is no such thing as a perfect victim and how your bad qualities such as having a short fuse doesn't negate that but when you see a person with a mental illness or developmental disability you freak out- what the hell happened to 'no such thing as a perfect victim'? Personality disorders are caused by trauma and are essentially a bunch of unhealthy coping mechanisms for it- but I forgot they're not allowed to heal like you guys because they are 'bad people'-
you guys talk about how your damned if you fight back damned if you don't fight back and how frustrating it all is and how it's wrong and how there's 'no such thing as a perfect victim' but as soon as mental illness or disability comes into the picture you begin to start victim blaming or claim that they aren't victims- you guys scream no such thing as a perfect victim until the victim has a disability and now 'well she has bpd so she's lying or was acting emotionally unstable and therefore it was okay that she was hurt her dad who beat her was probably teaching her lesson' 'well he has an intellectual disability and is quite naive and over sensitive so taking away his autonomy is okay because he can't possibly understand what he wants! And if he gets hurt is his own fault not his caretakers'
I'm not an abuse apologist for calling out your bad behavior. I forgot 'no excuses' only applies to disabled people and never applies to people who were hurt in the past by disabled people! Wait didn't you guys say your parents/partners bad pasts and traumas don't justify their actions? Great then your trauma doesn't justify kicking people with mental disorders out of help groups unless they've actually done something beyond admitting they have a mental illness. Being a victim doesn't excuse being a dick. I'll also say if your high functioning being mentally ill or disabled it doesn't justify being a dick- I call out shit behavior that isn't being an abuse apologist or saying that you deserved to get hurt or that you weren't hurt. If your an asshole but you got raped or smth your still a victim who deserves help and I'm not gonna defend what your abuser did and I'm gonna wanna help you however I can but I'm still gonna call you out for when your trauma makes you an asshole to me- that's not abuse apologism. Acknowledging ableism in help groups isn't the same as apologism. Narcissists have feelings too, people with developmental disorders aren't braindead, unfeeling idiots unable to be traumatized they deserve love and no form of abuse is ever justified and psychotic people deserve to be listened too. I'm not ever gonna say someone isn't a victim of abuse because they fought back or didn't fight back hard enough or because they're an ableist asshole but I'm gonna call them out on being an ableist asshole or an asshole in general and abusing others back- that shit doesn't make me an apologist it means I'm standing up to bullshit and if you think being abused by someone with a disorder in the past or having trauma from having to take care of a disabled sibling or whatever makes it okay to hurt disabled people? I get to call that shit out. If you were abused and you start abusing others your an abuser too no excuses right? Well remember to apply that shit to how we treat disabled abuse victims-
if you wouldn't do it to a neurotypical person then what makes it okay to do to someone with schizophrenia or bipolar? Your trauma from dealing with disabled people doesn't make it okay to hurt disabled people! I won't ever justify your mom hurting you because she had a mental illness but I also won't justify you abusing someone else be they have a disability and you have trauma around disabled people.
Also depending on the severity of the disability I'm sorry they might count as a victim too and maybe they shouldn't be help accountable- the no excuses shit only applies if they're high functioning enough
If you can acknowledge that your mom or lover's past trauma doesn't justify how they hurt you then you have to acknowledge that your trauma doesn't justify how you hurt others- that includes people with disabilities like npd or autism. If your sibling was so disabled they needed extra attention or you where forced into a parental role your allowed to be angry and shit and to say 'im not gonna be held responsible for someone else, it's my life the system or my parents can figure it out' - cool your establishing healthy boundaries but as soon as you start demonizing them for needing that care I'm gonna call you out- you don't have to take of them but for the love of God don't go around demonizing other disabled people
Also start calling narcissistic abuse, emotional abuse- a lot of people who engage in so called 'narcissistic abuse' are actually not narcissistic or cluster b- heck a lot of them are neurotypical and not mentally handicapped or ill in the slightest.
Stop demonizing personality disorders
Listen to people with psychotic disorders and developmental disabilities
Stop saying people with severe cognitive disabilities can't develop trauma or be depressed or that narcissists don't have feelings etc
stop ignoring or justifying abuse against disabled people. Stop with the perfect victim bullshit.
people who think narcissistic abuse is a thing or that disabled people shouldn't have kids don't clown on this post
#narcissistic personality disorder#ableism#autism#developmental delay#schizophrenia#abuse#bipolar#bpd#abuse apologism#I'm tired of this shit#I'm not an abuse apologist for calling out an abuse victim for attacking other abuse victims#It's always 'no excuses' with disabled people who sometimes can actually be excused based on the severity of their disability#Calling out an abuse victim for being cruel to people not responsible for causing their trauma isn't abuse apologism#Calling out an abuse victim for being abusive to others because of their trauma isn't abuse apologism#I know victims of abuse are held to unfair standards and I don't hold those standards#But people with disabilities are also held to unfair standards that able people aren't#Which makes getting help hard for them#Don't kick someone with npd or whatever out of getting help unless they've actually done something#If your okay when a neurotypical teen curse then you sure as hell should be okay when a disabled teen does the same#If your okay with an able adult drinks then you should be okay with a disabled person doing the same#If your okay with an able person wanting to do something unique or special to stand out then you should be okay with cluster b people who -#Want to do something unique or stand out
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sure you like our flag means death but are you normal about ed and izzy’s relationship?
#like can you be a person for one sec and not like idk get so fucking angry at someone who likes izzy#hot take liking a fictional character does t make you and abuse apologist#crazy take ik#same goes for ed#ofmd#our flag means death#izzy hands#ed teach#edward teach#blackbeard
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Rip to all the Anakin apologists, but I love when guys are worse, actually. I fucking love when characters do Bad Things and are awful people. Big fan of The Atrocities, and an even bigger fan of understanding why the characters committed them. He's a terrible human being--Why did he become one? How does he justify it? Does he really believe he's right, or does he know and not care? What does he think about his crimes while committing them? What about after?
Aren't those question so much more interesting to answer than blaming everything he does on someone else? When you have a character this deeply fucked up and fascinating, it's basically character assassination to pretend he never did anything wrong. Like, come on, he's sinned, now have some fun with it
#star wars#anakin skywalker#anakin star wars#star wars anakin#anti anakin apologists#just. for deeply fucked up guy enjoyers it's so annoying to see people ignore all the problems#no those are fundamental parts of the character he’s not the same guy without the crimes#all those fix-it aus where Order 66 didn't happen and Anakin stays a Jedi and the author pretends he never did anything wrong#are just deeply boring and dumb to me because the whole point is that he's a trashbag#he killed a village full of people! He consistently endangers his soldiers! more than once he tortures and dismembers his enemies!#He's a possessive terrible husband! He's an abusive teacher! He sucks so so so bad way before rots!#why would you ignore that it makes him fun#anyway rant over I love characters that Get Worse please stop erasing The Atrocities
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seeing slideshows about mothers and trying not to correlate them to walburga and sirius/regulus is literally impossible
#if you would've told me like a month ago i would be obsessed with WALBURGA BLACK i would've punched you in the face#and yet here i am#i'm not an apologist#i just think we should explore her more#she is just so interesting to me!!#the fandom usually doesn't look further than the monster she has been written to be#but what leads a woman to become like that? what leads a mother to hate her own children so violently?#she's not violent in my mind in the same sense that i see her portrayed in most fics#she's so much more subtle in her abuse and her manipulation#walburga black#sirius black#regulus black
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Ma'am pull up the homelander memes because how did we lose fishes 😐 at this point we gotta cut the cameras
Ps. Sorry about your inbox for me personally this is the only day I'm letting myself be crazy about these people. You're my ayomy/the bear radio and I'm calling innnn
welcome to W.A.F.P.B radio thanks for calling
the fact that we lost best writing for fishes is...
#this is the uncropped version ijbol#anon#asks#so racist jlc and abuse apologist JB can win best guest appearance in fishes but the show cant win best writing for the same episode??
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Thank you anon for making it short and sweet, I only follow him so unfollowing is no skin off my nose (I am keeping myself out of this as much as possible)
#not a confession#ive been in my share of tumblr drama#including against myself for lookin at a mutually toxic situation. sayin it. and then getting called an abuse apologist somehow#me. who was under my abusive mother for the first 20 years of my life. and was at the time.#same woman who tried to kill my brother in his sleep at one point and when looking at me with a knife to my own throat#just asked if i was done yet or not#as some highlights#shit was wild back in 2016 back on a blog long since deleted and a community long since mostly abandoned#no i will not be naming my old url but i hope the person who has it now hasnt gotten shit for having my old url from people thinking its me
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not wake up dead man going from my most anticipated movie to maybe not even watching
#fire the casting director#an abuser AND a rape apologist in the same cast??#like i truly don’t know whether to watch cause wtf#they could have picked literally anybody else#louis screams into the void#louis talks movies#knives out#wake up dead man
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I know I've made this post before but: y'all have really got to stop using "it's ugly"/"it sounds bad" as your main (and sometimes only) argument as to why you shouldn't support/watch/listen to/play a show/music/game/whatever made by bigots or abusers. Art is very subjective and the people who are following an artist are doing it because they like that artist's style. When they ask "wait what's wrong with <person>?" answering "their style looks dumb"/"their music sucks" is just gonna make the person asking the question think you're just a hater and they'll keep supporting them. It won't inform them that the person whose art/music they're looking at/listening to is racist or transphobic or a pedophile. (And at worst will make them think that people are lying to discredit the artist when they do finally hear legitimate criticism of them (especially if you are also making things up or digging up years-old dirt that the artist no longer agrees with))
(Because reading comprehension sucks here: this is not saying you can't think ppl's art sucks, nor that you can't say that it sucks. This is specifically about using that as your main or only argument as to why consuming their art is morally wrong.)
#same example as last time:#when you say 'vivziepop is a design theif and tracer and zoophile and her art is ugly and openly defends/supports known abusers'#it makes the last point seem untrue or exaggerated when the first point is untrue; the second she has apologized for basically rotoscoping#when she was 15; the third she has repeatedly and profusely apologized for and spoken against art she thought was 'funny and edgy' at 15;#and the fourth is 100% opinion and a moot point#ThornShadow.said#this post ended up 10 sentences longer than I wanted but whatever#also because reading comprehension sucks here: I don't support vivziepop or her abuse-apologist stance nor her bigotry#but it's EXTREMELY lucky I looked into those points after the other 8 were all lies; decade old no-longer-true dirt; and personal opinions#because in all of the callouts I saw at the time those were listed long after the other things#like if I see 'lie lie stretch exaggeration lie outdated' it's likely I'll see a pattern and not read or not believe the 1 or 2 true items
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Antis, this blog is not a safe space for you.
#vaguepost#the audacity#(if you interpret this as me being a CSA apologist/against the AoC that is a you problem#and you can fuck right off with that too#if you want to be bigoted at least don’t do it in front of survivors#of extremely horrendous (often adultist) abuse in the name of your same ideology#while not even having any fucking idea what damage you’re doing thinking you’re supported here)#people I find over and over and over again have a tremendous capacity for cruelty#if some other anti-c can go talk to them that would be helpful but I’ve been abused too many times to do any more of that myself
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ppl don't understand that we know connor sucks we know he's an awful human being and we wouldn't support him if he was a person irl but we also understand he's a product of his upbringing and he's delusional to the point he doesn't see the damage he's done so liking him as well as liking the rest of the roys doesn't mean we justify/ignore their actions, we just connect to the humanity they show in the show (lmao)
#like people are acting like if u say you like connor it means you're like an abuse apologist or something like be serious ppl#i know i joke a lot about this but i genuinely connect with the loneliness of a neglected character bc well i don't have to explain it#and it doesn't mean idc abt willa or her hurt ofc i care i want her to be happy but there's a lot of layers to that relationship#it's not a healthy one nor one i would approve irl but within the show it's one i can connect with and justine happens to share the same#perspective i do#also we're not woobifying anybody#they're just broken people and we love that#connor roy#not tagging succession bc the replies on some of my posts are dumb af and i don't need fandom validation 🫡
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hey like respectfully. do we still need to be rbing posts of ccs who uplift and openly hang around groomers bcs their miserable careers would be nothing w/o licking the shoes of that crowd. just bcs it had "dsmp lore crumbs". LMAO. how abt we stop doing that
#like are these transparently disingenuous pandering scraps worth it I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!#ccsm did not have 34 yrs of lore shoved in hus back pocket that Just So Happens to line up w the horrible abuse apologist ending#that smhow paints him in the best light possible t the fans they're catering to yk the v same abuse apologist victim blaming weirdos. LOL.#get a grip my god. and erm ask to tag if this bugs anybody specific style i have anon on ☝️#huri.txt#discourse
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i'm having Many Thoughts this rewatch about the... words. narrative devices and framing and tone of sdmi, and how they bring out a lot of food for thought re: aspects of media analysis which are easy to lose track of in media that takes itself more or less seriously than sdmi does.
unfortunately my brain is kind of soup lately, and when i try to put this bit into words it becomes Massive Overwhelming Infodump before it's halfway to my stylus. i have few brain cells available at the moment and it burns through them fast. 😔 ah well, hopefully i'll get around to making an actual coherent post about it sooner or later
#whosebaby talks#SDMItag#something about abstraction vs literalism; shorthand you're supposed to fill in the gaps for vs Things You are Meant to Take at Face Value#and about what's meant to be a Thing specific to a particular character/place/social environment/dynamic/etc#compared to a show's stylistic weirdness filter you're having to compensate for to tell if this character is an Abstraction#in the same way squiggles on a book to indicate writing are an abstraction of actual writing; or if they Are Actually Like That#vs when they *aren't* meant to embody that any more than the other people present; but *the other people present are also Like That*#compared to baseline for that world; because there's a specific reason in-universe that people like them end up concentrated here#vs a world where the baseline *is* for everything to be Like That; not as an abstraction or weirdness filter#but because the squiggly lines on the book are just Actually Squiggly Lines in-universe#often intended for comedy but not always! or entirely!#and sdmi's tone--comedic and otherwise--means it bounces around a lot of these in some really interesting ways#which is uh further complicated by the fact that despite how much of the comedy is obviously meant to lampshade how fucked up their world i#a fuckton of it is just straightforwardly horribly misogynistic and racist and abuse apologist and what have you#and not only makes light of this stuff in some really fucking awful ways under the guise of always-sunny-style ~tee hee lampshading~#but pulls some real toothpaste-and-orange-juice shit when it combines that with the more serious/earnest elements#and then you add in things like examining the generally exaggeratedly corrupt justice system#partly for laughs/drama and partly because a realistic judiciary process wouldn't work with the format tone and narrative they're working i#it's a fairytale; monarchies don't choose a ruler by sending out three princes to find a magical chalice in the forest or whatever#.....but also there are some reeeaaal interesting; uncomfortable things to examine here when comparing the corrupt *human* justice system#to the corrupt one the horrifically oppressed talking animals in this universe are subjected to#especially when it's often not even clear *which animals are supposed to be sapient*#and some shit you cannot 'it's a fairytale' your way out of; like racism and ableism and misogyny and queerphobia and abuse#say what you want about whether it *should* be there; but if it is; it is#and if nothing else it is sure fucking worth discussing if a piece of media tries to claim a textual depiction of SA for example#is a squiggly line abstraction for consensual romance#anyway there's a lot to unpack here squirtle it's fascinating and i have Opinions about it
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