#same for abuse apologists
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azelmaandeponine · 3 months ago
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Gotta love how the Gravity Falls fandom still has no media literacy and is putting out the worst """character analysis""" videos known to man.
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carrymelikeimcute · 1 year ago
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I feel like if Izzy had made Stede stab him for his own (sexual?) gratification, at gunpoint, we'd be seeing posts calling him a rapist, is all I'm saying.
Because literally everything he does, short of breathing, gets spun in the worst possible way until you'd not even sure you're watching the same show.
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brainrothawks · 2 years ago
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endeavor apologists are nuts, cause now we’re going to have to have the same convos with anime only as the convos people were having way back when the todoroki abuse was really delved into. people saying “touya had it better” “he was given choices” “enji was being a good dad, he didn’t want touya to hurt himself” like??? bro “didn’t want touya to hurt himself” in the same way a flame doesn’t want to be put out. enji completely neglected touya and pushed him onto rei so he didn’t have to face the responsibility himself. sure, maybe deep down enji the father didn’t want his son to hurt himself but we all know he was upset that touya wouldn’t be able to accomplish what he was born to do. touya todoroki wasn’t a loved child that enji cared about. he was a failure, his first failure among 3 others until he forced rei to have shoto. that’s why his name means “arrow” because his only purpose was to surpass endeavor the hero and all might his rival. enji todoroki is a coward who abused his whole family, including touya. enji todoroki is a selfish man who only wanted children and wife so he could get what he wanted. fuck enji, fuck endeavor.
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ipona · 1 month ago
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I'm sorry but seeing this post:
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On the same blog as this post:
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Is actually so fucking funny
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thousandyearphantombunker · 3 months ago
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gotta love that people will scream about how people like me are abuse apologists and that we defend abusers and how lack of empathy instantly makes you evil but like all I wanna do is point out that a lot of abuse recovery 'help' is ableist as fuck
Like they say people with autism shouldn't be allowed to have kids cause 'they throw tantrums due to emotional dysregulation and they lack empathy and can only care for children in a clinical way' and I see way too many people attack the shit outta severely disabled siblings for having the gall to need a care taker and for 'forcing their sibling to take care of them! So evil' rather than get pissed off at the parents who ACTUALLY forced the able sibling to take care of them and didn't properly care for either and acting like the disabled sibling doesn't exist at all and that any abuse a person with a developmental or psychotic disorder suffers is 'justified not only is putting up with you hard but also your too stupid and delusional to be believed and your natural naivety and psychotic makes taking away your autonomy necessary!'
They kick people with BPD out of groups because they interpret symptoms of BPD in the most abusive way possible and out right state people with npd can't be abuse victims and kick them out of groups because 'they're the abusive ones' like uh they can be abusive but none of npd or bpd's listed symptoms translate directly to 'abusive asshole' y'all make a huge stink about how there is no such thing as a perfect victim and how your bad qualities such as having a short fuse doesn't negate that but when you see a person with a mental illness or developmental disability you freak out- what the hell happened to 'no such thing as a perfect victim'? Personality disorders are caused by trauma and are essentially a bunch of unhealthy coping mechanisms for it- but I forgot they're not allowed to heal like you guys because they are 'bad people'-
you guys talk about how your damned if you fight back damned if you don't fight back and how frustrating it all is and how it's wrong and how there's 'no such thing as a perfect victim' but as soon as mental illness or disability comes into the picture you begin to start victim blaming or claim that they aren't victims- you guys scream no such thing as a perfect victim until the victim has a disability and now 'well she has bpd so she's lying or was acting emotionally unstable and therefore it was okay that she was hurt her dad who beat her was probably teaching her lesson' 'well he has an intellectual disability and is quite naive and over sensitive so taking away his autonomy is okay because he can't possibly understand what he wants! And if he gets hurt is his own fault not his caretakers'
I'm not an abuse apologist for calling out your bad behavior. I forgot 'no excuses' only applies to disabled people and never applies to people who were hurt in the past by disabled people! Wait didn't you guys say your parents/partners bad pasts and traumas don't justify their actions? Great then your trauma doesn't justify kicking people with mental disorders out of help groups unless they've actually done something beyond admitting they have a mental illness. Being a victim doesn't excuse being a dick. I'll also say if your high functioning being mentally ill or disabled it doesn't justify being a dick- I call out shit behavior that isn't being an abuse apologist or saying that you deserved to get hurt or that you weren't hurt. If your an asshole but you got raped or smth your still a victim who deserves help and I'm not gonna defend what your abuser did and I'm gonna wanna help you however I can but I'm still gonna call you out for when your trauma makes you an asshole to me- that's not abuse apologism. Acknowledging ableism in help groups isn't the same as apologism. Narcissists have feelings too, people with developmental disorders aren't braindead, unfeeling idiots unable to be traumatized they deserve love and no form of abuse is ever justified and psychotic people deserve to be listened too. I'm not ever gonna say someone isn't a victim of abuse because they fought back or didn't fight back hard enough or because they're an ableist asshole but I'm gonna call them out on being an ableist asshole or an asshole in general and abusing others back- that shit doesn't make me an apologist it means I'm standing up to bullshit and if you think being abused by someone with a disorder in the past or having trauma from having to take care of a disabled sibling or whatever makes it okay to hurt disabled people? I get to call that shit out. If you were abused and you start abusing others your an abuser too no excuses right? Well remember to apply that shit to how we treat disabled abuse victims-
if you wouldn't do it to a neurotypical person then what makes it okay to do to someone with schizophrenia or bipolar? Your trauma from dealing with disabled people doesn't make it okay to hurt disabled people! I won't ever justify your mom hurting you because she had a mental illness but I also won't justify you abusing someone else be they have a disability and you have trauma around disabled people.
Also depending on the severity of the disability I'm sorry they might count as a victim too and maybe they shouldn't be help accountable- the no excuses shit only applies if they're high functioning enough
If you can acknowledge that your mom or lover's past trauma doesn't justify how they hurt you then you have to acknowledge that your trauma doesn't justify how you hurt others- that includes people with disabilities like npd or autism. If your sibling was so disabled they needed extra attention or you where forced into a parental role your allowed to be angry and shit and to say 'im not gonna be held responsible for someone else, it's my life the system or my parents can figure it out' - cool your establishing healthy boundaries but as soon as you start demonizing them for needing that care I'm gonna call you out- you don't have to take of them but for the love of God don't go around demonizing other disabled people
Also start calling narcissistic abuse, emotional abuse- a lot of people who engage in so called 'narcissistic abuse' are actually not narcissistic or cluster b- heck a lot of them are neurotypical and not mentally handicapped or ill in the slightest.
Stop demonizing personality disorders
Listen to people with psychotic disorders and developmental disabilities
Stop saying people with severe cognitive disabilities can't develop trauma or be depressed or that narcissists don't have feelings etc
stop ignoring or justifying abuse against disabled people. Stop with the perfect victim bullshit.
people who think narcissistic abuse is a thing or that disabled people shouldn't have kids don't clown on this post
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roman-roy-apologist · 1 year ago
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sure you like our flag means death but are you normal about ed and izzy’s relationship?
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inquisitor-apologist · 1 year ago
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Rip to all the Anakin apologists, but I love when guys are worse, actually. I fucking love when characters do Bad Things and are awful people. Big fan of The Atrocities, and an even bigger fan of understanding why the characters committed them. He's a terrible human being--Why did he become one? How does he justify it? Does he really believe he's right, or does he know and not care? What does he think about his crimes while committing them? What about after?
Aren't those question so much more interesting to answer than blaming everything he does on someone else? When you have a character this deeply fucked up and fascinating, it's basically character assassination to pretend he never did anything wrong. Like, come on, he's sinned, now have some fun with it
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elysianymph · 1 year ago
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seeing slideshows about mothers and trying not to correlate them to walburga and sirius/regulus is literally impossible
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falllpoutboy · 3 months ago
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Ma'am pull up the homelander memes because how did we lose fishes 😐 at this point we gotta cut the cameras
Ps. Sorry about your inbox for me personally this is the only day I'm letting myself be crazy about these people. You're my ayomy/the bear radio and I'm calling innnn
welcome to W.A.F.P.B radio thanks for calling
the fact that we lost best writing for fishes is...
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theinfernalcalypso · 4 months ago
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Thank you anon for making it short and sweet, I only follow him so unfollowing is no skin off my nose (I am keeping myself out of this as much as possible)
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louisxleprince · 7 months ago
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not wake up dead man going from my most anticipated movie to maybe not even watching
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thornshadowwolf · 1 year ago
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I know I've made this post before but: y'all have really got to stop using "it's ugly"/"it sounds bad" as your main (and sometimes only) argument as to why you shouldn't support/watch/listen to/play a show/music/game/whatever made by bigots or abusers. Art is very subjective and the people who are following an artist are doing it because they like that artist's style. When they ask "wait what's wrong with <person>?" answering "their style looks dumb"/"their music sucks" is just gonna make the person asking the question think you're just a hater and they'll keep supporting them. It won't inform them that the person whose art/music they're looking at/listening to is racist or transphobic or a pedophile. (And at worst will make them think that people are lying to discredit the artist when they do finally hear legitimate criticism of them (especially if you are also making things up or digging up years-old dirt that the artist no longer agrees with))
(Because reading comprehension sucks here: this is not saying you can't think ppl's art sucks, nor that you can't say that it sucks. This is specifically about using that as your main or only argument as to why consuming their art is morally wrong.)
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aronarchy · 1 year ago
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Antis, this blog is not a safe space for you.
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comfycel · 2 years ago
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ppl don't understand that we know connor sucks we know he's an awful human being and we wouldn't support him if he was a person irl but we also understand he's a product of his upbringing and he's delusional to the point he doesn't see the damage he's done so liking him as well as liking the rest of the roys doesn't mean we justify/ignore their actions, we just connect to the humanity they show in the show (lmao)
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t4tpumpkinduo · 5 days ago
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hey like respectfully. do we still need to be rbing posts of ccs who uplift and openly hang around groomers bcs their miserable careers would be nothing w/o licking the shoes of that crowd. just bcs it had "dsmp lore crumbs". LMAO. how abt we stop doing that
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angorwhosebabyisthis · 1 year ago
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i'm having Many Thoughts this rewatch about the... words. narrative devices and framing and tone of sdmi, and how they bring out a lot of food for thought re: aspects of media analysis which are easy to lose track of in media that takes itself more or less seriously than sdmi does.
unfortunately my brain is kind of soup lately, and when i try to put this bit into words it becomes Massive Overwhelming Infodump before it's halfway to my stylus. i have few brain cells available at the moment and it burns through them fast. 😔 ah well, hopefully i'll get around to making an actual coherent post about it sooner or later
#whosebaby talks#SDMItag#something about abstraction vs literalism; shorthand you're supposed to fill in the gaps for vs Things You are Meant to Take at Face Value#and about what's meant to be a Thing specific to a particular character/place/social environment/dynamic/etc#compared to a show's stylistic weirdness filter you're having to compensate for to tell if this character is an Abstraction#in the same way squiggles on a book to indicate writing are an abstraction of actual writing; or if they Are Actually Like That#vs when they *aren't* meant to embody that any more than the other people present; but *the other people present are also Like That*#compared to baseline for that world; because there's a specific reason in-universe that people like them end up concentrated here#vs a world where the baseline *is* for everything to be Like That; not as an abstraction or weirdness filter#but because the squiggly lines on the book are just Actually Squiggly Lines in-universe#often intended for comedy but not always! or entirely!#and sdmi's tone--comedic and otherwise--means it bounces around a lot of these in some really interesting ways#which is uh further complicated by the fact that despite how much of the comedy is obviously meant to lampshade how fucked up their world i#a fuckton of it is just straightforwardly horribly misogynistic and racist and abuse apologist and what have you#and not only makes light of this stuff in some really fucking awful ways under the guise of always-sunny-style ~tee hee lampshading~#but pulls some real toothpaste-and-orange-juice shit when it combines that with the more serious/earnest elements#and then you add in things like examining the generally exaggeratedly corrupt justice system#partly for laughs/drama and partly because a realistic judiciary process wouldn't work with the format tone and narrative they're working i#it's a fairytale; monarchies don't choose a ruler by sending out three princes to find a magical chalice in the forest or whatever#.....but also there are some reeeaaal interesting; uncomfortable things to examine here when comparing the corrupt *human* justice system#to the corrupt one the horrifically oppressed talking animals in this universe are subjected to#especially when it's often not even clear *which animals are supposed to be sapient*#and some shit you cannot 'it's a fairytale' your way out of; like racism and ableism and misogyny and queerphobia and abuse#say what you want about whether it *should* be there; but if it is; it is#and if nothing else it is sure fucking worth discussing if a piece of media tries to claim a textual depiction of SA for example#is a squiggly line abstraction for consensual romance#anyway there's a lot to unpack here squirtle it's fascinating and i have Opinions about it
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