#sam watches s19

[aspecbuddie]

the station 19 finale was so good?? travic had my heart the entire time

[lover-of-mine]

Anna!!! Is it just me or has greys been completely underwhelming this season?? Maybe it's just in comparison to 911 (which I'm way more invested in in general) and station 19 (which I think you don't watch but I've been crying every episode and it's the final season) but I finish every episode and go 'okay, that was definitely.... an episode?' and then move onto s19 and 911 without thinking about it anymore 😅😅

Honestly the most exciting thing about this season has been deciding which things could relate to 911 so I can come yell about them in your inbox 😅

Sam, baby, yeah, I feel you, it's definitely just been a season. But honestly, it's good, nothing happened yet that makes me say I will never watch this show again and that's a win considering some of the stuff that happened in previous season because it was almost a ritual kaoskoskspsksw it's been entertaining to watch but it's nothing mind-blowing, it's just there. I'm feeling very neutral about everything about it. It's mostly just stuff to imagine for other characters.

[booasaur]

Okay but the use of Sam and Deena's argument in the hospital to build up tension to Peter being stabbed by skull killer was so well done. Watching it over again and it has to be one of my favorite scenes of the movie.

Hah, I don't know if it was a favorite of mine, but it WAS exceptionally well done! They really made use of all their tools, the really good, intense fight between Sam and Deena, which, the fight before was great as well. I do love wholesome OTP type ships, but as I've said with S19 and Happiest Season, heavier, realer conflicts don't really stand in the way of that, they create stakes and more investment.

But yeah, they start to build that argument up, and then the other tool, the fact that we would absolutely expect Peter to stick around and be shitty to Deena while Sam would tolerate it until finally the full sign of her growth would be picking Deena over him but hahahaha, instead, he's just unceremoniously dispatched like immediately! I really liked the movie's pacing.

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1-100 of the Holby asks 😎

okay buckle up kids, it’s gonna be a long ride(would also just like to apologise right now for the fact 90% of these questions will have the same answers… three guesses as to which)

also I tried to do a “read more” so this wouldn’t take up your dashes but it didn’t work, soz

100 Questions about Holby City

1. Favourite present character?The queen of my life Jac Naylor obviously2. Favourite past character?My precious child Jasmine Burrows (although it pains me to call her a past character)3. Least favourite present character?Fredrik Johanssen, I literally just don’t care about him at all4. All time favourite character?Jac Naylor5. All time least favourite character?Isaac Mayfield maybe? 6. Favourite recurring character?Does Emma Naylor count??? Also Lexy the vicar7. Favourite nurse?Present - Essie, all time - Chantelle8. Favourite senior doctor?Always has to be Jac9. Favourite junior doctor?Jasmine10. Favourite ward?Darwin without a doubt11. OTPs?Jac/Jonny (also lowkey Ollie/Tara, Ollie/Zosia, Arthur/Morven, Jas/Morven, Jac/Zosia)12. NOTs?Essie/Raf!!! Also Jonny/Bonnie for obvious reasons, Jac/Matteo13. Favourite friendship?Jac/Mo, Jac/Zosia, Jasmine/Morven, Mo/Jonny14. Favourite family relationship?Do I even need to answer this??? Jac and Jasmine forever until the end of time15. Favourite actor/actress?Rosie Marcel16. Favourite quote?Current fave is still “you got the cheekbones, she got the smile” but the “foetus in scrubs” line will always be iconic, as will most of Jac’s lines 17. Favourite current storyline?Jac grieving over Jasmine even though it’s not properly kicked off yet18. Least favourite current storyline?Fredrik, also Essie/Raf19. All time favourite storyline?Jac and Jonny’s relationship/Jac’s pregnancy20. All time least favourite storyline?In terms of boring??? idk but in terms of painful then Tara’s death/Arthur’s death/Jas’s death (sensing a theme here)21. Favourite series? Of what I’ve seen, 15, 16 or 1922. Least favourite series?Don’t really have one23. Favourite episode(s)?I mean… the list is endless but my most faves are probably S14 E41 From Here To Maternity, S16 E13 Self Control, S19 E26 It’s Only Love If It Hurts, S19 E38 Paper Wishes 24. Least favourite episode(s)?Again, there’s loads of boring ones but in terms of most painful it has to be S15 E27 Great Expectations and S19 E37 (I can’t even bring myself to write the title lol), even though the episode itself is incredible25. Favourite scene?Too many… Jac helping Mo give birth, Jonny asking Jac to move in (almost all of their scenes tbh), every scene from Self Control, Jac comforting Zosia after Arthur’s death, Jac and Zosia in the taxi, Jac protecting Jasmine from Serena, Jac and Jasmine laughing in the locker room, both Jac’s locket scenes… I’ll shut up now26. Saddest scene?Jasmine’s death (see also Tara’s death and Arthur’s death)27. Funniest scene?I genuinely can’t even pinpoint one off the top of my head, there’s so many but the locker room scene is up there 28. Scene you’ve re-watched multiple times?Again, loads but Jac and Jasmine’s locker room scene and Jac helping Mo give birth are probably my most watched 29. Most inspiring moment?Idk??? Not so much inspiring as makes me proud, but Jac realising she can be a good mother springs to mind30. Favourite patient?Maybe the young farmers on Darwin31. Favourite cast photo?The second to last one they released32. Favourite cast member?Rosie Marcel33. Describe Holby City in five words.A truly life ruining show34. Describe your favourite character in five words.Queen of my fucking life35. Character you want to return?Jonny Maconie36. Character you want to be treated by?Jac 37. Character you least want to be treated by?Isaac38. Character you never expected to like as much?Jasmine, Zosia39. Character that deserves more screen time?Morven40. Character with the best bedside manner?Mo41. Character with the worst bedside manner?Fredrik42. Character you’d like to be more like?Jac43. Character you first fell in love with?Jac44. Character that you like/love that everybody else dislikes/hates?Idk I can’t think of one??? 45. Character that you dislike/hate that everybody else likes/loves?Can’t think of one46. Character you used to love but no longer do?Idk47. Character who has the best one-liners?Obviously Jac48. Character with the coolest name?Estelle Ava Harrison49. Hottest character?Jac and Ollie50. Sassiest character?Jac51. Best-dressed character (out of scrubs)?Jac, Zosia52. Most caring character?Mo53. Funniest character?Jac54. Most boring character?Fredrik55. Most intriguing character?Jac56. Most entertaining character?Jac (am boring myself with the repetition here, don’t say I didn’t warn you)56. Most relatable character?Jasmine, Mo, Donna57. Most misunderstood character?Jac, Jasmine58. Character you feel most sorry for?Jac, Morven59. Character that annoys you the most?Fredrik60. Character you’d most like to slap?Fredrik61. Character that you have mixed feelings about?Nina and Matteo62. Character(s) you’d like to see get their own spinoff show? Jac, Jasmine, Jonny and Emma pls63. Characters that you’d like to see interact more?64. Jac and Morven bonding over Jasmine, Jac and Damon, Ollie and Morven 65. Character you would bring back from the dead?…..if you don’t know the answer to this by now you’re in the wrong place (of course it’s Jasmine)66. Which character’s death would you never get over?I’ll never get over Jasmine’s obvs, but I actually don’t think I’d cope at all if it was Jac67. Character(s) you’d like to leave?Fredrik68. Which character’s past would you like to learn more about?Morven, Damon69. Most upsetting exit?Jasmine, Arthur, Tara70. Favourite character rivalry?Jac vs everyone 71. Last character to make you cry?Jac72. Last character to make you laugh?Damon73. Last character to make you angry?Fran fucking Reynolds74. Last character to break your heart?Jac75. Last character to make you proud?Morven76. Character you’d like to see develop more?Morven, Damon 77. Thoughts on last week’s episode?Quite enjoyed it but am in serious need more Jac coming soon 78. Which character’s name do you first look for in the cast list whenever looking at spoilers?Jac79. Earliest memory of the show?Jac and Jasmine meeting for the first time80. How did you get into the show?The Casualty30 crossover81. Which colour scrubs do you think would suit you the most?Probably the Keller burgundy ones, but I’d only wear Darwin blue bc I’m loyal to my squad so x82. If you could choose any one of the current characters to remain on the show forever, which character would it be?Jac83. How long have you been watching the show for?Just over a year84. Have you ever had any Holby-related dreams?Yes, about Jac and Jasmine 85. Things you’d like to see happen in the 20th anniversary episode(s)?Anything as long as it involves Jac taking centre stage (and she has to be okay)86. Five things you’d like to see happen on the show?Jac and Jonny reuinion, Jac and Morven to interact more, a Casualty crossover where Jac meets Sam Nicholls, Mo/Zosia/Cara to return87. Three things you love about the show?How relatable the characters are, how inspiring they are, the fact it’s such a good show to escape from your own issues88. Cast member you’d most like to meet?Rosie 89. Have you ever watched any films/shows/shorts starring any of the cast members (in a different role to their character on Holby)?Some of Rosie’s and Lucy’s90. Three things that you’ve learned from watching the show?Lots of medical stuff, that the best friendships are often the unlikely and unexpected ones, not to put a scalpel in your pocket (thanks for that one Jas x)91. Do you have any predictions about anything that might happen on the show in the future?Not really beyond the spoilers of Jac and Fletch growing closer, I’m still praying for a Jac/Jas grave scene like the one in Casualty tho92. Famous person you’d like to see make a guest appearance as a patient?Can we get Lorraine on??? She’s the biggest stan I swear93. If you had the opportunity to appear on the show, would you?Um YES, in a heartbeat94. Do you sing/hum along to the opening theme tune?No I get palpitations bc this show ruins me x95. Is there anything that you would like to see be made canon on the show which probably never will?Is it too much to ask for Jasmine to rise from the dead??? And for Jac and Jonny to reunite??? And Morven and Jac to be friends???96. What do you think would be an interesting storyline for the show to explore?I wish they’d show Jac having a full scale mental breakdown after everything that’s happened to her, it’s almost inevitable at this point plus time be great to have more mental health rep 97. If there was something that you could change about the show, what would it be?For Jasmine not to be dead x 98. Favourite Holby City fanfiction?As in which pairings or which stories? There’s way too many of the latter, but I read anything Jac-related and occasionally some Zollie tbh99. Favourite Holby-related blog? I have loads100. Favourite thing about the Buckle Fandom? How sweet and respectful everyone seems to be!!! It’s the least problematic fandom I’ve ever been in honestly and I love it

THIS WAS LONG AF IM SORRY but I had so much fun answering all the questions ahhhh, thank you!!!

[lonelier-version-of-you]

Part 2 of my answer...

Mixed representation:

‘The Good Doctor’. Granted, I could only get through a couple of episodes of this, because it wasn’t really my thing. The episodes I did see, I thought were okay. There were some good aspects and some bad aspects.

I thought Freddie Highmore’s performance as Shaun was quite good. The way he moved and spoke felt realistic to me.

I liked that Shaun was a whole character, not just Walking Autism like Sam on Atypical. He had a complex backstory and everything.

I liked that they made sure to specify that not ALL autistic people are savants, Shaun just happens to be one.

I didn’t like that Shaun felt like he was being written as a child at times. For example, there’s a scene in one of the first episodes where he has to ask a co-worker about what sarcasm is. He’s supposed to be in his 20s, he should have learned that already! It would be one thing for him to not know when someone was using sarcasm, but not knowing what it is, at his age, feels very unrealistic.

Also, even though they at least explained that Shaun was a rare case, I still wish he hadn’t been a savant in the first place. It would be more interesting to see a show about an autistic doctor who wasn’t any smarter than any other doctor.

I haven’t watched far enough to see them, but sadly I know TGD also has some very ableist episodes. There’s one where Shaun is transphobic to a patient and it’s blamed on his autism, which is gross, and there’s another bad one written about here: http://www.femestella.com/the-good-doctor-review-recap-mute-boy-episode/

However, I haven’t really heard things this bad about the show in general, so I think it’s generally pretty okay but takes some really bad turns occasionally (not that that makes the offensive episodes fine, they’re still bad, obviously).

‘Holby City’. This is a spinoff to ‘Casualty’, set in the surgery wards of the same hospital. Sadly, while Casualty does ND representation very well, Holby’s reputation with it is not so great.

They have an autistic character, Jason Haynes. Jason is pretty bad representation. For one thing, he hardly ever appears. And when he does appear, it’s usually for Very Special Episode plots where the focus is on other characters learning how to “deal with” him, or for scenes exaggerating his autistic traits as a joke.

Jason isn’t portrayed as having much personality outside of his autism, so I haven’t got much to say about him. What I can say is that he’s portrayed as unrealistically childish, almost like he just walked out of a lab fully-grown and doesn’t know anything about the world. For example, in S21 E26 ‘Kiss Kiss’, Jason sees his friend Zav down on one knee in front of his girlfriend Donna. Zav is holding a heart-shaped balloon, about to propose to Donna. Jason’s response to seeing this is to say “Oh, balloons! Are we having a party?”, implying he didn’t know what a proposal is - even though he’s a married man.

Also, other characters around Jason tend to patronise him and treat him like he’s a child. They’re portrayed as nice people for doing this and as “strong” for putting up with Jason at all.

Another character on the show, Henrik Hanssen, is neurodivergent in several ways. He has depression, OCD, PTSD (never named in the show, but shown through symptoms), and he’s heavily implied to be autistic. Some of these are well-portrayed, some are not.

Henrik’s depression is very well-handled. Rather than being a singular depression story that was forgotten about and never mentioned again, like many portrayals are, Henrik’s depression is a consistent part of his character. It’s not overdramatised, but not glamourised either - it’s just something he lives with.

His OCD is badly written. There have been a few good episodes about it (S19 E03 ‘Black Dog’ is a brilliant one), but mostly it’s just played off like a quirky character trait. The only sign of OCD he even shows in most episodes is that he organises things a lot. Even in incidences where he should be showing more symptoms, he doesn’t.

His PTSD is fairly well-written. He developed it after his son’s death in 2017, and while the show has never outright called it PTSD, it’s made very clear that’s what he has - the symptoms have lingered for a long time, as we’ve seen him showing symptoms and having flashbacks as recently as last year. It’s not just kept to ‘obvious’ symptoms like flashbacks, either - we’ve seen him display anxiety, dissociation, irritability, etc. It does kind of feel ignored lately, but Henrik hasn’t been a major focus for a while (other characters are getting all the big storylines at the moment), so I wouldn’t jump to saying it’s been forgotten about just yet.

His autism is a great portrayal and I really, really wish they would have diagnosed him in the show instead of introducing Jason. This post is getting long already, so I’ll just link this page: https://lonelier-version-of-you.tumblr.com/henrik101

Near the end of 2017, the show introduced Henrik’s old friend John Gaskell. They had a heavily implied gay relationship (that Henrik’s actor later confirmed was romantic), actually, but that’s beside the point because we’re not talking about queer representation lol. Anyway, throughout 2018, we saw that John was mentally ill. He was never given an exact label in the show, but he was shown dealing with hallucinations, self-loathing, paranoia and mood swings, among other things. John’s symptoms were used to show how “creepy” he was, he was portrayed as not caring about morality or ethics, and towards the end of the storyline he actually committed murder and it was blamed on his mental illness. Obviously, this was really bad representation.

Yet another character, Sacha Levy, has depression. I think this is generally well-handled. Sacha’s depression manifests itself in recurring episodes, rather than being constant like Henrik’s, but it’s definitely not forgotten about. And it’s not portrayed as “attention seeking” or something he could “snap out of” or anything.

There are more examples, but I’ll stop here. As you can see, Holby gets some ND representation very right, and some of it very wrong. :/

Bad representation:

‘The A Word’. This is a show about a neurotypical couple whose child gets diagnosed with autism. The kid, Joe, doesn’t have much personality outside of autism - not that he’s in the show much anyway! Joe barely features. The plot of the show is just about how stressful Joe is for his family, which reinforces harmful tropes about autistic people being burdens. ://

ok i need some help here

i'm doing a presentation kinda about neurodivergence in the media and their representation, you know?

so first i know that "Atypical" is not the best representation so if someone can explain me why i would appreciate it. like i know it's because sam has like no personality apart from being autistic but is there something else?

also can you tell me some movies/books/shows with good nd represantation and other with bad nd representation

thanks i appreciate it

[aspecbuddie]

trav saying he would marry vic 🥺🥺🥺

[aspecbuddie]

okay but also what was with the very clear AMAZON PRIME moments in 911 AND station 19????

[aspecbuddie]

between 911 (holy fuck!!!), station 19 (😭😭😭), and grey's anatomy (ARIZONA) that was a two hour long emotional rollercoaster

[aspecbuddie]

okay but also station 19 what the FUCK was that why did you make me sob for 42 minutes straight

[aspecbuddie]

oh man I've been so focused on the 911 finale that I forgot it's gonna be station 19's final ever episode this week 😭😭😭

I just watched a marina edit from the last episode and am now sobbing 😭😭😭

[aspecbuddie]

oh man I am not ready for the station 19 finale... the amount of messages I sent to my friend that were 'if they do XYZ I'm not gonna be okay/happy' was wild

[aspecbuddie]

it was nice of station 19 to give me a break from crying for the first time this season because I know I'm going to be sobbing for the final two episodes

[aspecbuddie]

I was finally able to watch the episodes and oh my godddd

[aspecbuddie]

couldn't watch any episodes til just now and I just

greys had me sobbing

station 19 had me worried (and sobbing)

and i have so many thoughts about 911 that they are currently incoherent

[aspecbuddie]

holy shitttt all three shows ended on moments that had me screaming in my seat

[aspecbuddie]

Station 19 is now 7 for 7 on making me cry this season xD