#sally face theories

[sanestkanadefan]

Me when someone mentions something I'm obsessed with :

[feral-queercore-punk]

Okay, so, forgive me if this is basic info because im new to the sally face fandom but... you know how larry SWORE that charley killed mrs sanderson? What if the cult sent one of their copies to kill her and then instructed the clone to place the pony in charley's apartment?? So that explains how charley is innocent but larry still thought he did it, and pins the murder on a non-cultist so they can stay underground while still getting rid of mrs sanderson.

Still doesnt explain why charley's mugshot looked different... actually... wait no it does. I think todd said the copies were initially bad but slowly improved to a scarily accurate degree, so it makes sense that the copy would only match charley's body type rather than his facial features. Plus since he would have been disguised during the murder, larry would have thought big guy + ponies = charley.

Hmmm. I'm still not sure though, because then why would the cult realise information that charley was innocent? Maybe they realeased/fabricated some in order to make sal look bad before his murder trial, so the public would think he's just a sick and twisted maniac trying to make people suffer. That could be a good theory tbh.

Lemme know what you guys think. Sorry it's so ramble-y, I never do theories so this probably a bit shit lol

[the-nosy-neighbor]

This is the best thing ever. So, looking for the Sally stuff earlier and came across this, and i think they might have figured it out. I have suggested that there is either a moon side to Sally or a Moon Character to Sally's Sun Character for several reasons (see About Sally post and the Pedrolino posts).

1. Her eyelids/one eye open, one eye closed

2. The door on her house

3. Early versions of her overall buttons

4. The whole gotta stay inside at night thing

5. Eddie's watch being split between day and night

6. Pedrolino's association with the moon

7. History of masks in theatre

I kept the info on there to credit the artist. But i can see that being feasible, with the rows of rays having depth, and the face shape. Also, the purple eyelids make sense here.

[death2theparasite]

i dont need your pity

haii travvy art here ^_^

sprite redesign!

[thr4shit]

I might be just over reading into things, but Larry's dad just disappeared, right?

And what happened to Larry's body after he died?

... he disappeared

Brain is now screaming that Larry's dad died too, and that this shit has some reason.

Maybe like.. an original version of what happened with Larry, Sal and the others? (Sort of a previous group) I'm so fucking sleep deprived right now, I feel like I'm high. So yeah, have fun with whatever the fuck this means.

Or maybe it's just very "Johnson" to disappear.

Anyway, hope you enjoy whatever shit this is that my brain threw at me. See ya.

(I'm currently at ch. 5 so... not done "done" yet and definitely not getting the full story... but my brain screamed this at me after someone walked in on me playing and asked why there was a "junkie" *Larry's ghost* in a tree house.)

[3-opossums-in-a-ballgown]

Have I personally played any of the FNAF games? Nope! Have I watched Markiplier’s entire FNAF playlist and seen every video MatPat has made on the Lore™️? Yup!

[sp4ce-g1rl]

rewatching gravity falls along w everyone else rn and thinking about how similar the town/lore/etc is to sally face??? like esp thought of the blind eye society vs the devourers of god??? idk i haven’t played in prob 2 years so i could be way off but i kinda want to now bc i feel like i could make a case of them being related lol

[somedeadbeatloz3r69]

(thats a pinky promise now u have to) SEND AN ASK TO REQUEST A MOOD BOARD!!

[tigerlilygamez]

I'm on YouTube Now??

I have a joint channel with my friend of 10ish years called TigerBloom Theories!! We'll post about DTI Lana Lore, Walten Files, Hermitcraft / Life Series, Sally Face, Omori, Lacey Games, DHMIS, Welcome Home, etc.! <3

[a-wildkinventure]

[This is not me irl, and it's not my video either. I do not remember for the life of me where I got it either... just that I'm 90% sure it originated on TikTok. All credits for that video go to the ACTUAL creator.]

I wanted to show y'all simply because I just wanted to say... Yes. Yes, I did have an accent. But I lost it after moving to Nockfell because I wanted to fit in *plus it was very mild to begin with* but it comes out VERY strongly when I'm mad or confused, and Ash liked to try to tease it out because she told me she liked how it sounded, while Larry did the same thing just to see if he could actually get my accent to come out, because he found it funny that I only sounded like I was a "New Jersean" when I got pissed off at something/someone or when I was put in a situation that makes me question what's going on. Either way, yeah, I did. I was a slightly accented New Jersean. Take that as you will.

[duckywcue]

SO ik I'm not a SF/Sally Face creator but IF! YOU REMEMBER, Sal had no choice to kill everyone in the building, MAYBE Charlie was close to the same thing but, instead of just mass murdering everyone at once, he stopped for awhile and he was close to doing the same thing as Sal?? Do you like my SF theory?

[taniynjpg]

Does anyone know a REALLY good sally face theory/ explanation video? I want to watch one while I draw :3

[jacklesside]

As im watching The End of the F***ing World on Netflix, I have a few theories as to what's gonna happen. I know that they're probably gonna be wrong, but who gives a shit.

Theory 1: the narration overtop of a lot of the episodes is actually Alyssa and James narrating what happened either to court or to the cops, as they're retelling what happened, now that they've been caught. This has very Sally Face energy to it, but it would also make sense, seeing as both of them talk directly to the watcher about their feelings, and what they were thinking at the time. Evidence for this includes whenever Alyssa is talking about how she thinks the cops will give them a medal for killing Coch (?) and James, over narration, says "they didnt." As if he knows for certian what's going to happen. This is a very interesting thing to say, seeing as the rest of the narration has just been about the present, but now about the furture.

Theory 2: Theory 1 won't happen, and I'm reading too much into things

Update: I just started season 2, and theory 2 came true

[catghoststories]

Frank, Eddie, and the Tell-Tale Heart

So, I know the main focus of this update was Poppy, which I was happy to see (though I'm not happy to see what happened to her).  I do have a theory cooking about her, Sally, and the Commedia Dell'arte, but Frank n' Eddie are my favorite pair, and I've been stewing over this particular theory since the July '23 update.  This tiny line from the Looky-Loo storybook is what cinched it for me.

Source: Merchandise Page, Looky-Loo Storybook

This line isn't read out loud, but we can see it at around the 9 minute in the video, above Eddie, looking so polite.  It reads,

"Villains!" I shrieked, "I can deny it no longer! I admit the deed!—tear up my flower bed!—here, here!—it is the ticking of my beloved alarm clock!"

This isn't the actual line from The Tell-Tale Heart.  The original line reads "Villains!" I shrieked, "dissemble no more! I admit the deed!—tear up the planks!—here, here!—it is the beating of his hideous heart!"

Source: The Tell-Tale Heart

The Tell-Tale Heart is about someone murdering their roommate, cutting him into pieces, and hiding the evidence under the floorboards of their house. 

And I think this is what Frank is going to do to Eddie, in an attempt to protect him in a perverse, misguided way.

This rewritten lines seems very specific to Frank and Eddie.  We know Frank loves his garden.  And who's the only character in the Neighborhood who owns a clock?  Eddie.

At the end of the Homewarming video, Frank sees how distressed Eddie is.  As many have theorized, Frank seems to be somewhat aware of what's happening, although we don't know to what extent.  But he sees that Eddie is now in the line of fire of The Powers That Be, and he becomes worried for him.  

I think Frank will dismantle Eddie and hide him in his garden until he deems it 'safe' for Eddie to come back, once the 'eyes' are off him.  (Kind of reminds me of the Eye of Sauron from Lord of the Rings).  An unintentional—or perhaps intentional—side effect of being dismantled and put back together, with new parts, is that Eddie doesn't remember things well. 

Including, possibly, his and Frank's relationship.

This goes along with the theme we've seen several times in WH now, including this new Halloween update.  The puppets unintentionally—yet seriously—harm their loved ones in order to protect them from something they deem far worse—whatever that may be.

As these posts by kykudos, oniongrass, and nikkiiiscute discuss, there is an image from one of the hidden bug clips of Frank's garden with 9 clothespins—one buried in the dirt.

Source: Welcome Home Hidden Audio ('til it's back on the official site :3)

And there's the references to burial in Bug-a-Bye and Goodnight, too.  This post by the-nosy-neighbor goes quite a lot into this song very well, especially how it might indicate Frank could put Eddie into a suspended state!

Source: Transcript Page, Bug-a-Bye and Goodnight

Now I have been thinking about this dismantling/reassembling thing for a long time, especially since the last Halloween update.  Eddie is one of the puppets with a new costume, and he is Frank(enstein)'s monster.  And he has a big yellow band-aid on the back—Frank's color.  If Eddie is taken apart, Frank will patch him up again.

Source: Clown's Tumblr

(Also, I'm curious about the blue hand and face in Eddie's costume design. That's Barnaby's color. Does Frank use Barnaby's spare parts to put Eddie back together?! 😳 Especially since I feel like Barnaby's time on Mister Bone's Wild Ride is fast approaching—but that's yet another post 😅)

But based on the Tell-Tale Heart line, Frank may have been the one to do the dismantling in the first place, which is quite dark.  Based on the below picture from the former staff member page—clearer image here from Clown's Tumblr—Frank may be aware they're puppets and made up of various parts.

Source: Welcome Home Wiki until it's back on the official site :3

There is also an intense piece on Clown's Ko-Fi here (please support Clown if you can!) that shows butterflies doing SOMETHING to Eddie. Are they putting him together? Or taking him apart to join them in their hibernation? 🤔

Frank also likes gelatin. As he tells Poppy in their hidden audio, 'it holds perfectly sliced fruit beautifully'.  Perfectly sliced, cut up fruit, eh?  Gelatin is a preservative that we also see in the cookbook recipe, and we all know Eddie has an unholy encounter with his single pea.  So yet another symbol of suspended animation that is related to Frank and Eddie.

Source: Merchandise Page, Cookbook

So it seems like Frank has some experience in preservation, hibernation, etc. and knows how to use it, if it comes to it.

The next big update will likely be spring-themed.  A long time ago, Clown posted that Frank has a holiday in spring. Of course this isn't canon until it's on the website, but either way, I think Frank will have an important role in the spring update, which I believe will also focus on Julie.  We may see him wake up Julie from hibernation...and Eddie from his dirt nap.  

Source: Clown's Tumblr

(I've been so curious about that shadow behind the flower.  At first I thought 'OMG, it's Eddie's hand!', but I don't think so. 😅 I dunno what it is, but it doesn't quite seem flower like to me...🤔)

This Ko-Fi post (again, please support Clown if you have the means!) was posted around Easter this year and had a bunny/Easter theme.  Clown says "What is there to say though... Well! We know what the next holiday is in our Home Sweet Home, I'd say."  A huge theme of Easter/Spring are Rebirth and Resurrection.

As this post by serene-hatterene so beautifully details, Frank may feel pressured to kiss Julie to wake her up to prove his heteronormativity.  Maybe to further protect Eddie, too, to prove they aren't a thing.  Seems like Julie's family may show up this update, too, and we know family can cause a lot of pressure for couples during holidays. 😬

My last item isn't that strong, but I have been thinking of since the July '23 update.  In Eddie's Big Lift, Frank says the following line:

Source: Transcript Page, Eddie's Big Lift

The tense of "You always did work too hard" always bothered me.  Why doesn't Frank just say, "You always work too hard!"  And Eddie doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. Frank sounds almost wistful here.  It's like he's talking about his ex—a former version of Eddie, pre-dismantling, perhaps?

(Also, 'Enjoy the ground, Mr. Dear'? Dude, if this theory is right, that line is even more screwed up than it already was. 😳)

Here is my order of how I feel these events actually happened:

Secret Bug Audios (Eddie and Frank flirting) -> 1st Halloween Audio (Eddie still seems like his chipper, knowledgeable self) -> Homewarming -> Springtime (and Eddie's Resurrection)? -> Eddie's Big Lift

Not quite sure where this last Halloween update lands, but I feel like it's later.  Eddie seems ignorant of the potential adverse effects The Brickening (TM) could have on Poppy.  I feel like he's been more sensitive to Poppy and others in the past (but maybe I'm wrong, I'm biased towards him, heh).  Perhaps after his Reconstruction, his memory has now been reset, and he has "fallen into line" with the other Neighbors and their weird, pile-onto-one-person ways.

Anyway, what do you all think? 😬😬 I do hope I'm wrong, since Frank is my favorite, and this would make me feel very differently about him. 😬😬😬 Please tell me your own WH theories, too! I find them so interesting!

[arainmorn-art]

Ah, Sal. You walking tragedy x) Took me 7 years between sketching this pic in my sketchbook, forgetting about it and recently finding the scan in my folders while thinking: "Damn. I should finish it" because of the cool video essay I've seen dedicated to Sally Face. And now it's finally done.

I also finally know, what happened in the final episode. Man, it's so... bittersweet at best. But at least I was right with my theory that Sal's injury wasn't a dog's fault. Because I was drawing this sketch with Sal gently holding a puppy seven years ago with this exact idea. Nothing, that happened, was Sal's fault too. Ah, I wish there'd be more story about Sal, I liked him so much. UPD: AND RIGHT WHEN I GOT SAD THAT THERE'S NO SEQUEL I CHECKED PORTABLE MOOSE SITE AND HERE IT IS, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SEQUEL STARTED THIS YEAR!!! YAY! DeviantArt - https://www.deviantart.com/arainmorn/gallery X - https://twitter.com/ArainMorn_art Insta - https://www.instagram.com/arainmorn/ VK - https://vk.com/arainmorn

[disasterchild20]

Dating Him Would Include

James

Him showing off with a snitch

Stealing his hoodies, especially his quidditch one, and him loving it

“You comfy, Love?”

“Very… plus it smells like you.”

Cuddles. Lots of them

Always makes sure that pranks won’t get you

The marauders teasing him for it

Is always touching you in some way. Whether it be holding your hand, or gently brushing arms

Always checking in on you when he sees you, asking how your day has been or if you need something

Surprising you randomly with small gifts; flowers, chocolates, ect

Sirius

I’m always serious jokes

Arm always round you

“Siri, can you please be serious for one minute?”

“But, Darling, I’m always Sirius.”

Likes it when you play with his hair

Gets you to do his eyeliner

Randomly pulls you onto his lap, burying his face in your neck

Loves it when you ramble about what you’re passionate about

You wearing his quidditch jersey on game days and not giving it back

Painting each others nails

Remus

Sharing books and reading them together

Reading aloud to each other

Stealing his sweaters

Him pulling you into his chest when you’re sitting on the sofa together

Burying his face in your hair

“Is that my sweater?”

“…maybe…”

Eating chocolate in his dorm together

Telling him he could never be a monster

Nose kisses

Peter

Cuddles. Lots and lots of cuddles

Raising his sweet draw in his dorm

Him cuddling into your chest/neck

“I’m bored.”

“Okay… you want cuddles, don’t you?”

Loves you running your hands through his hair

Will kiss your cheek every time he sees you

Loves making you blush

Marauders all calling him a love sick puppy

Always asks for your help with homework or revision just to spend time with you

Evan

Always needing to be touching you in some way

Wraps his arms round you from behind and burying his face in your neck

Neck kisses

Him lying on you for cuddles

“You’re always so warm.”

“And you’re always so cuddly.”

“You playing with his rings

Love playing with your hair

Sneaks into the kitchen with you to bake cookies with you

Gets you flowers every weekend

Regulus

Speaks French to you

Forehead kisses

Let’s you draw on his hands and arms

“What are you drawing today, mon ami/e?”

“Stars and flowers, they represent you and me.”

Him letting you paint his nails, returning the favour

Takes you star gazing, telling you what stars are where and the stories behind them - making you wear his quidditch jumper if it’s cold

Writes you poetry, slipping them into your books

Links pinkies on the table when sat with you

Loves you playing with his curls

Barty

Loves putting his face in your neck when cuddling

Let’s you choose what earring he wears that day

Loves it when you read to him

Interested in your rambles

“Sorry, I’m rambling.”

“No, continue, I’m interested.”

Writes little notes and slips them into your pockets or bag

Let’s you do his makeup

Makes sure you’re eating while revising or doing homework

Asks your opinion on his outfits

Severus

Takes time to explain the theory behind potions to you

Loves holding hands

Plays with your fingers

Studying under trees together

“Told you this place is a perfect place to study.”

“It is, thank you for bringing me here.”

Blushes whenever you kiss his cheek

Sneaks snacks into your bag

Legs touching when sat together

Compare notes after class to see if the other has something different

Frank

Rambles about different plants

Let’s you name his plants

“This is Sally.”

“Okay, Sally can go between Brian and Samantha.”

Knuckle kisses whenever you’re holding hands

Gives you a flower everyday for two weeks leading up to your birthday

Helps you with Herbology if you need it

Buys you a small plant because you like helping him with his

Napping together

Cuddly when sleepy