#russo european laika

[bones-n-bookles]

Photos from Hunting Laika Breeds of Russia by Vladimir Beregovoy

[losech]

Differences between the three Laika breeds (Russo-European, West Siberian and East Siberian)?

Typically ESL are the largest and REL are black and white lol I'm not great at describing the different Laika breeds so you can read about them on Vladimir Beregovoy's website: East Siberian Laika West Siberian Laika Russo-European Laika

[zaryathelaika]

Everything About Laikas

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[zaryathelaika]

— Vadim Gorbatov

Russo-European Laika.

A laika breed notoriously infamous for bonding to only one person and their family for life after 8 months old. They have a reputation for returning to their original owner and abandoning their new owner at first opportunity. Some are friendly or neutral towards strangers but most bark defensively and do not hesitate to bite if pressured.

A bit too misanthropic for my taste. But not the worst since some West Siberian Laika individuals have the same temperament as RELs and Karelian Bear Dogs. Generally, WSLs are more sociable. But yeah, the spiciest of the hunting laika breeds.

QUICK from this point on you can only get dog breeds that start with the same letter as your name, what’s your next dog gonna be?

mines a Kooikerhondje or a Keeshond >:]

[h8dog]

Refs for Hate and Casey!! Casey is Hate but 6 months younger, 11cm taller, west seberian barker and living in siberia (H8 living in Canada)

Btw, Canadian Barkers doesn't exist irl. There are just some lore

When dogs evolved, they renemed a lot of breeds to be more distant from their past. Some parts of names were translated, and some parts were changed for a reason. Laikas became Barkers (translated from russian). russo-European laikas/barkers migrated to Canada, so they were renamed to Canadian barkers.

Emerald and Neptunite barkers don't exist either. Crystal dogs have their own breed names. They can call themselves by crystal or non-crystal breed if they want to

Fun fact: Samoeds were renamed to selfeater. Samoeds were named after Samoede people, but dogs didn't know that and just translated this word from russian

[iicraft505]

Russo-European Laika

[pajulammas]

My canine OC Wapus' reference sheet. He's a very old character of mine, originally created in 2011-2012. I love him very much. More information about him in his Toyhouse profile!

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[zaryathelaika]

Wouldn't know. They are in the same breed groups according to United Kennel Club and Fédération Cynologique Internationale. Laikas are not recognized by kennel clubs in UK, Canada, New Zealand and Australia or by American Kennel Club. Are you talking about this study?

Subclade d1 haplotypes were found only in breeds from Scandinavia, except for one lineage each in East Siberian and Russo-European Laika (Table 1; Table S2). A high proportion of individuals having d1 was found for some common Scandinavian breeds: Lapponian Herder (75% of investigated lineages), Jämthund (74%), Finnish Lapphund (65%), and Norwegian Elkhound (grey) (46%) and some breeds supposedly founded by few lineages had exclusively d1 haplotypes (100%). Notably, several common Scandinavian/Nordic breeds, e.g. Swedish Vallhund and Norwegian Buhund, did not have d1 haplotypes. Thus, subclade d1 was found at high frequency in all Sami-related breeds (Finnish and Swedish Lapphund, and Lapponian Herder) and in some North Scandinavian hunting dog breeds.

The fact that the d1 haplotypes were almost exclusively found among breeds from Northern Scandinavia and Finland strongly indicates that this haplotype originated in this region. Other datasets do not give further clues: Neolithic dog samples from southern Sweden (Malmström et al. 2008) carried only haplogroups A and C, but the samples were from outside the historical distribution of the breeds carrying d1, and among wolves no haplotypes similar to subclade d1 were found among extant populations across Eurasia, including Scandinavia (Aggarwal et al. 2007) or historical Scandinavian samples (Flagstad et al. 2003).

— Klütsch, C. F. C., Eija H. Seppälä, Tove Fall, Mathias Uhlén, Åke Hedhammar, Hannes Lohi, and Peter Savolainen. "Regional occurrence, high frequency but low diversity of mitochondrial DNA haplogroup d1 suggests a recent dog‐wolf hybridization in Scandinavia." Animal Genetics 42, no. 1 (2011): 100-103. Retrieved April 14, 2023. Archived from the original on April 14, 2023 via archive.today. That one is quite old and is based on mitochondrial DNA. But yes, at the time in 2011, Fennoscandian dogs were reported to have different mtDNA than Russian and Siberian dogs.

There is another one from 2018 which uses genome-wide single nucleotide polymorphism sequencing. Not going to post the whole thing, but laikas are mentioned 43 times in that paper. Will attach some diagrams. The one with SNP sequencing is more clear on relatedness between breeds and geographical splits.

Please note there is an acknowledgement of limitations on data available before taking anything as gospel:

Due to small numbers of Russian-European Laika and West-Siberian Laika, the STRUCTURE results regarding these breeds should be treated with caution, they are included here only for completeness. Both East- and West-Siberian Laika are highly popular hunting dogs throughout the vast Russian Federation and it will be interesting to see if our preliminary results reflect true population subdivision, e.g. due to geography. Lapphund subdivision is also interesting and it might be worthwhile to see if this is caused by differential breeding regimes for working vs. show dog lineages.

— Pohjoismäki, Jaakko LO, Sara Lampi, Jonas Donner, and Heidi Anderson. "Origins and wanderings of the Finnish hunting spitzes." PloS ONE 13, no. 6 (2018): e0199992. Retrieved April 14, 2023. Archived from the original on August 20, 2022 via Wayback Machine. And that is a fair disclosure to list in the paper. West Siberian Laikas have declined in popularity in Nordic countries since 1970s and 1980s because most hunters want moose-specialists [archived] (Norwegian) and some of the multi-game or small-game hunting attributes of laikas were diluted by show fanciers [archived] (Finnish). That's why there are not so many dogs to sample from in Finland. (If you cannot use a machine-translator to read that Finnish website, then there is a defunct kennel website, retrieved through Wayback Machine, which has a similar sentiment written in English.) More individuals need to be sampled to assess relatedness between breeds. Conflict of interest: my previous male dog is listed as a stud in Metsästysseura Länsisiperianlaikat ry's directory. Also, used to be Facebook mutual with Eirik Krogstad, who owns the kennel website.

Weird question, but is there a reason aside from historical accidence of being imported into Anglophone cultures in numbers so much earlier that Norwegian Elkhound aren't traditionally classed with laikas? @losech , do you maybe happen to know?

[bones-n-bookles]

Finally got the new edition of Vladimir Beregovoy's Hunting Laika Breeds of Russia!

[copper-skulls]

POV: you are never to talk to her or her accidental grand??son ever again

tiny Grillby wip still lives in my head rent free but that's unfortunately the only place it's in atm </3 until then, tiny grillby propaganda

[grison-in-space]

For folks who aren't familiar, PRE/PSL are the formal names for what we call "Andalusian" and "Lusitano" horses respectively. This colt looks like he's also greying out, so he's more likely to look like this at maturity:

PRE and PSL are essentially an ethnonational divide laid over a pre-existing single breed/population/type, in this case between Portugal and Spain. You see similar divisions between, say, Karelian Bear Dogs and Russo-European Laika. Over time, differences in the two types will probably accrue, but for now they are still very similar.

I love him.

I just want to take the funny looking foal home. He's like the opposite of those overbred seahorse arabs.

And I'd let him grow a tail. Obviously.

[potatounicoorn]

We got a new dog, and this is my mood rn

Her name is Sukka (Sock in finnish) and she is a Russo-European Laika, and she is so freaking adorable💕✨

[orcinus-ocean]

Basically doggos

^ Seriously, that’s what I named the file name of the complete collage... since I needed it to stick in alphabetical order next to “basic doggos”.

I named the first collage “basic doggos” because they’re very... basic. And again, this file was named “basically doggos” just for alphabetical reasons.

In this collage (split up for your convenience), I include all dogs with curly tails, short legs and no coats - but otherwise following the rules of the previous collage, with long noses, prick ears, and no absurd body shapes. The Chow is probably the most extreme here, but included because they vary greatly (and the more moderate chows are no more extreme than some other spitzes).

I put the Pomeranian and Papillon there hesitantly, because sometimes they do have long faces, but could not put the Chihuahua there, because they are so apple-headed and long in the body compared to their Czech and Russian equivalents.

This one was harder to put together than the former, since the rules are a bit more subjective.

Apologies for mixing a little with the native vs. English names.

They are, as follows...

Akita (Japanese) Alaskan klee kai Alaskan malamute American akita American eskimo dog American hairless terrier Basenji Canadian eskimo dog Chinese crested dog

Chow chow East Siberian laika Elo Eurasier Finnish lapphund Finnish spitz Greenland dog Großspitz Hokkaido

Hrvatski ovčar Hälleforshund Icelandic sheepdog Jämthund Japanese spitz Kai Karelian bear dog Keeshond Kishu

Kleinspitz Lancashire heeler Mittelspitz Mudi Norrbottenspets Norwegian buhund Norwegian elkhound, grey Norwegian elkhound, black Papillon

Peruvian Inca orchid (hairless) Pomeranian Russo-European laika Samoyed Schipperke Shiba Shikoku Swedish lapphund Swedish white elkhound

Thai Bangkaew dog Volpino Italiano Västgötaspets Welsh corgi, Cardigan

Welsh corgi, Pembroke West Siberian laika Xoloitzcuintli (hairless) Yakutian laika

[fumusdamnatorum]

Repost and fill in the answers you most associate your character with to each question.

Silas:

1. ANIMAL: Black Labrador Retriever 2. COLOR(S): Crimson, Gray, Brass 3. MONTH: December 4. SONG: Wayfaring Stranger- Jos Slovick 5. NUMBER: 3 6. DAY OR NIGHT: Night 7. PLANT: Lycoris 8. SMELL: Peppermint 9. STONE: Coal 10.SEASON: Fall 11. PLACE: Mantle Mines 12. FOOD: Landjäger 13. ASTROLOGICAL SIGN: N/A 14. ELEMENT(S): Fire, Air 15. DRINK: Neat whiskey on the rocks

Aleksi:

1. ANIMAL: Russo-European Laika 2. COLOR(S): Black, Silver 3. MONTH: November 4. SONG: Black Raven- Alexej Manvelov 5. NUMBER: 7 6. DAY OR NIGHT: Night 7. PLANT: Wolfsbane 8. SMELL: Fresh cut pine 9. STONE: Slate 10.SEASON: Winter 11. PLACE: Outer Mantle 12. FOOD: Pelmeni 13. ASTROLOGICAL SIGN: Sagittarius 14. ELEMENT(S): Ice, Earth 15. DRINK: Hot Cider

Tagged by: stolen from @sundragcn, @boundariestcbreak, @flightofaqrow, and like a whole bunch of others

Tagging: If you want to, sure. Otherwise it dies with me.

[zaryathelaika]

You're more likely to find hunters/breeders who health-test in Nordic countries.

Here are the databases:

Dogweb (Norwegian)

Hitta Älghund (Swedish)

Hunddata (Swedish)

KoiraNet (Finnish)

Koiratietokanta (Finnish)

Metsastyspystykorvat (Finnish)

People who don't health-test their dogs are not listed on the breed clubs' classifieds (again, referring to Nordic countries). So, there's that as well.

Here are most of the relevant documents:

Suomen Laikajärjestö ry. Länsisiperianlaikan Rotukohtainen Jalostuksen Tavoiteohjelma 2013 - 2017 [trans. “West Siberian Laika Breeding Strategy 2013 - 2017”, PDF, 842 kb] (Finnish). Retrieved January 18, 2023. Archived from the original on January 18, 2023 via Wayback Machine.

Suomen Laikajärjestö ry. Länsisiperianlaikan Rotukohtainen Jalostuksen Tavoiteohjelma 2018 - 2022 [trans. “West Siberian Laika Breeding Strategy 2018 - 2022”, PDF, 771 kb] (Finnish). Retrieved January 18, 2023. Archived from the original on February 9, 2023 via Wayback Machine.

Svenska Laikaklubben. Avelsstrategi för Västsibirisk Laika [trans. “Breeding Strategy for West Siberian Laika”, PDF, 344 kb] (Swedish). Retrieved January 18, 2023. Archived from the original on April 23, 2022 via Wayback Machine.

Haven't been able to recover the SLJ's 2008 - 2012 program from the Wayback Machine yet. Will update (on Github) if I find it.

Can link to some more health programs since Norrbottenspets, Finnish Spitz, East Siberian Laika, Russo-European Laika and Karelian Bear Dog group genetically together with West Siberian Laika. I believe members of breed clubs can access Agria's database on insured dogs as well. Agria's information was why we went with Pavel (the previous West Siberian Laika) instead of a Jämthund or a Finnish Spitz. But was only able to access that because someone from a breed club accessed the information for me. Although partner at the time also wanted an East Siberian Laika. But yeah, @losech is correct.

In my experience, it’s been a bit difficult to find hunting dogs bred by breeders who actually health test and don’t just rely on “they’re vet checked” or “they work well into old age”. Are there WSL breeders who do OFA testing and such or is that just a compromise one has to make like it is for some other breeds?

I had the only dna and ofa tested litter in the country. Unfortunately I have no current breeding plans 🙃

I got Ember's breeder to start using Embark on his dogs, so that's something at least. But in general, people don't health test WSL. Finding kennels overseas who do it and will export is difficult as well.

[dotachin-san]

It's been a long time since I did a collab with DrGeneticist But here we go, aayy :D [x] Speedpaint (YouTube)