#rumor report

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[hijinxinprogress]

Whenever the JL starts complaining about YJs public image YJ just straight up gaslights them

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[fideidefenswhore]

'Thus he ended his speech, and he doesn't say That he had wronged or spoken ill of the king, But he prayed that God long keep the king In life, in happiness, [in honour], and in contentment. And when, to the people in attendance, he said, With a steadfast countenance, "Pray for me," With a firm heart he presented his head To the sharp blade that carried it off in one blow. [And not fearing the great cruelty Of the sharp blade [...] Each one seeing that people bore great grief from it] The [three] who had to die afterwards Said nothing, as if they intentionally Had entrusted Rochford Alone to speak for their conscience [...] [The Queen] was still so curious [...] Therefore, they tell her that her brother had shown The greatest strength of any man ever seen [...] The story of the death of Anne Boleyn : a poem by Lancelot de Carle, JoAnn DellaNeva (Translator, Editor, Writer of added commentary)

"'I will,' he said in a good lawyerly fashion, 'not in this point arouse any suspicion which might prejudice the king's issue.' Unwilling to drop his line of questioning, Hales next claimed that George had spread malicious reports which called into question the paternity of Anne's child, Elizabeth. George did not dignify this with an answer. He knew his own sister." Hunting the Falcon, John Guy & Julia Fox

"But George refused to answer the question with the required yes or no, not wishing, he said, “to engender or create suspicion in a matter likely to prejudice the issue the King might have from another marriage.” Nor would he respond to any suggestion that he had spread a rumour that Elizabeth was not Henry’s. The idea that he believed Elizabeth was not the king’s child and that he had repeated such an untruth was, to George, so contemptible that he would not even dignify it with a reply." The Infamous Lady Rochford, Julia Fox

"George Boleyn's real 'crime' was to be Anne Boleyn's brother and Princess Elizabeth's uncle. He was intelligent and spirited enough to mount a powerful defence of his sister. He was powerful enough to provide the focus for Boleyn followers and, especially, those who would assert Elizabeth's rights as heir to the crown." Anne Boleyn, Josephine Wilkinson

[lesbiancarat]

do you know what seungkwan’s post was about? or have a guess? bc i’ve been trying to think and i assume it has to do with them getting overworked and delivering an eh comeback but i really have no idea.

P.S. love the blog thanks so much for the updates!!!

it probably has to do with the lawsuits going on with the whole new jeans/min heejin/hybe situation. I haven't been following it super closely since it's not directly related to svt so I can't explain the situation well, but you can look it up if you're curious

as part of the investigation, apparently an 18,000 page document of internal reports from hybe was exposed, which was reports from hybe about how their own groups and groups from other companies were doing, and it included some nasty stuff about a LOT of groups

one thing regarding seventeen specifically was their report on the Joshua dating rumor issue that happened a while back, where hybe concluded there was no need to post a statement or take action because fans were distracted by their dissatisfaction with Joshua by Seungkwan making a Moonbin related post at the time+Wonwoo and Mingyu doing a live stream together which distracted the shippers from being mad at Joshua

which like. not only is it frustrating to hear that hybe was aware of all the hate Joshua was getting at the time and actively chose to do nothing about it, but that they justified it by trying to frame Seungkwan's struggle and Mingyu and Wonwoo just doing a normal live together as a marketing tactic

I've seen some other stuff related to svt that was supposedly in the report as well but so far it's only been from accounts that I don't find to be trustworthy sources so I'm not going to spread it. but just know that hybe is being exposed for a bunch of nasty things they've said in their internal reports about basically every group in the industry, whether they're under hybe or not

so seungkwan's post isn't just about himself and seventeen but it's a defense of all the idols in the industry that have to deal with this

[noahschnappinfs]

millie’s wedding was this past weekend and noah was in attendance.

[wonder-worker]

"Mancini, an Italian visitor to England, was concerned for (Edward V and Richard of Shrewsbury's) fate as early as mid July. Well before he left England in that month, the princes, he later wrote, 'were withdrawn into the inner apartments of the Tower and were seen more and more rarely behind the bars and windows, till at length they ceased to appear at all'. Rumours of the princes' deaths were already circulating by the year's end. George Cely reported that he had heard that Edward V might be dead not long after 13 June, and certainly before his uncle claimed the throne. The Crowland chronicler, writing in about 1486, recalled how the rumour arose in September 1483 that 'the princes, by some unknown manner of destruction, had met their fate'. Some early reports went further, stating quite categorically that the princes were no longer alive. Robert Ricart, recorder of Bristol, entered in his Kalendar under the year ending 15 September 1483 that 'in this year the two sons of King Edward were put to silence in the Tower of London'. Shortly after 1485 the anonymous compiler of a genealogy of English kings concluded his work by accusing Richard, with his accomplice Buckingham, of murdering the princes. A London citizen, in some historical notes written before the end of 1488, noted that 'they were put to death in the Tower of London' in the mayoral year ending November 1483. John Rous, writing in 1489, reported that Richard killed the princes within three months of welcoming Edward V at Stony Stratford on 30 April; Richard, he wrote, 'received his lord king Edward V blandly with embraces and kisses, and within three months or a little more he killed him with his brother'. Rumours to similar effect reached France. In a speech to the estates general in 1484 the chancellor of France, Guillaume de Rochefort, reminded his audience how Edward IV s sons had been murdered and the crown seized by the murderer."

-Nigel Saul, "The Three Richards: Richard I, Richard II and Richard III"

*Just to add, Casper Weinrich of Danzig's chronicle at the end of 1483 also states that, "Richard, the King's brother, has put himself in power and crowned in England and he had his brother's children killed" and then in 1485 "King Richard of England, who had had his brother Edward’s children killed, was killed about St. Lawrence Day"

[ineedassistance28]

chat i can’t believe this is real

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[daughtersofyesterday]

Jonas Vingegaard press conference after stage 10

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Okay so i did just watch John Mulaney's, newest special and im not gonna lie. It was really good.

[fideidefenswhore]

Out of all of the people who had orchestrated Anne's downfall, which of them disliked her the most? I'm going with Cromwell.

I mean...to have been participants in this, it's likely they all disliked her, although arguably some of them (Carew, Bryan) hadn't seemed to initially do so, Bryan esp. being the one that seems to have had a good working relationships with her through 1530, at the least...

Chapuys seems to imply it's Carew and Montague leading the faction, at least earliest on. Arguably this must have changed over time, as Edward Seymour is present in an extremely important and politically significant meeting (the attempted Imperial rapprochement of April 1536, which he attended , between Cromwell, HVIII, and Chapuys), and they're not. Although...what reason, arguably, did the Seymours have for especially 'disliking' Anne and/or the Boleyns? Their daughters were promoted to her household. They might have had simmering resentment that another 'minor' noble family had risen so high and secured so much power and influence, but that doesn't really set them apart from many others than likely felt the same way, and it's not quite strong enough of a motivation for...such a conspiracy? If that makes sense.

Cromwell is the only one of these that she's reported as having said she'd "like to see his head off" though, so...yeah, probably him.

[willowistic22]

I love how us fansies have unanimously agree that the character dynamic between spot and jack is that they hate each other. Like in one way or another they don’t really see eye to eye. Well, for tonight, folks, i present to you an au where spot and jack do actually like each other (platonically, sorry yeah i’m very adamant with javey and sprace). Let me explain.

What if it was all a joke/facade that they hate each other? Like to fuck with other ppl they start telling the tiniest details abt each other and just go off the rails with it on some raging rant. Or they start making up lies abt each other as a reason to ‘hate’ each other. But it’s all an act. They try their best to one up each other on who can alter each other’s reputation the most, like as a competition at this point. They’re doing a good job individually ngl. Like, yeah, spot is definitely tough and has probably done the criminal acts jack tells everyone, but jack has a way of making it sound worse/over exaggerating it to the point of other newsies fearing him. Hell, even some of the brooklyn newsies are warry of him. But at the brooklyn lodging house, he’s still a good and stern leader with a tender side to his own newsies, especially the younger ones since he knows the little kids need the extra loving and care. And for jack, spot has done a great job of telling ppl how absolutely dumb and unserious he is. It makes ppl wonder how he was able to get picked as leader of the lower manhattan newsies. Sure, he’s a jokester and doesn’t take things too serious for the most part, but jack is actually a very intelligent and quick witted leader. He cares a lot abt his kids and will go to lengths in conjuring plans to keep them safe, happy, and healthy.

It wld be even funnier to think that maybe jack and spot meet up every once in awhile to discuss the latest rumor the other have conjured up abt themselves. The newsies of new york have borough leader meetings every month and every time, without fail, jack and spot wld greet each other like sworn enemies. Sometimes they’d go the lengths of ignoring them but purposely greeting all the other borough leaders. All the other leaders keep an eye on them bcs it seems like they’re abt to start a fight. Little did they know they wld always steal some time before or after the meeting to talk abt the latests rumors.

“You shitting me, kelly? Drowning ppl? That’s not something I’d ever do!”

“Shld’a think twice before you tell ppl i paint ‘left’ and ‘right’ on my hands bcs i keep forgetting. That’s embarrassing!”

It’s all in good fun, and also quite strategic for them individually. Spot was already someone you wldn’t want to fuck with, and his rumors painted his reputation as such. Jack has always been smart but now ppl underestimate him, which makes it easier to trick them in getting what he wants.

[blueberry-gills]

why

Why not

...It's for Diamond Dust actually

[etapereine]

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