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Silly headcanon :3
Ruin still has his sun side! After the virus was taken out of him his sun and moon separated mentally and can actually talk to each other!! But of course sun allows moon to be in control since sun doesn't feel safe being in control especially after what nexus did but whenever they are alone they switch who's in control because sun feels more safe! :3
#sun and moon show#sams#the sun and moon show#tsams#sams headcanon#tsams headcanons#headcanons#ruin tsams headcanon
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I felt the need to really go the extra mile to spread my "Ruin is objectum for arcade machines" truth, so here's an entire finished piece precisely for that <3
Note: PLEASE click and zoom in on the details I spent so much time on this LMAO
#xero creations#fun fact i was watching the librarian olay a roomba lidar horror game so now i lowkey associate this piece-#-with the sounds from that game HDJAHSJNSS#anyways this is my way of making sure no one thinks im joking when i say ruin kisses those arcades xoxo#sun and moon show#the sun and moon show#tsams#sams#sams ruin#ruin sams#tsams ruin#ruin tsams#objectum#objectum art#objectum headcanon#I JUST REALIZED I FUCKED UP HIS HANDSSSSS NOOOOOOOOO#whateeeevrrrrr i already based the entire color palette around which hand was in which panel LMAO 😭
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Someone get this man a better life
#this has to do with a headcanon/ship I have with Ruin that I'm not sure ive ever actually shared#at least - on tumblr anyway. a few people know about it#inky'sart#sams#tsams#sams ruin#ruin sams#tsams ruin#ruin tsams#sun and moon show ruin#ruin sun and moon show#sams dark sun#dark sun sams#tsams dark sun#dark sun tsams#ruin#dark sun#sun and moon show#the sun and moon show#sams ship#tsams ship#totally 100% canon stuff#t.1.c.s.
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Headcanon #1: Earth can tame any Eclipse.
Headcanon #2: Every version of Eclipse she befriends joins her knitting club.
- Solar has the most advanced skill out of the others. They knit stuffed animals together.
- V4 usually just sits in their meetings and occasionally mutters under his breath (you could say he "enjoys the company"). His skill is still at a beginner level, and he is too proud to let others know this. So he only tries knitting simple napkins during his one-on-one meetings with Earth.
- Ruin is the most passionate about knitting. However, he creates something completely unimaginable from a pattern he has come up with in his head, and no one can figure out what he will end up with. And Moon (who is also in the club) looks at his creations with suspicion, hoping that these yarns will not turn into a new destructive machine.
- Lord Eclipse weaves macrame. It's convenient to do it with his claws.
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hi I'm talking about Ruin again
My kingdom for more fancontent with Ruin, especially post-Thanos snap.
Like! Authors were barely using him before, maybe a few fics with him shipped with Solar-- and then the Thanos snapping happened and now there's NOTHING (okay there's not nothing, but at the time of writing this, there are about twoish ongoing fics focused on him and a handful of others where he's a participating character)
AND LIKE. THAT'S SUCH A SHAME??? Ruin went from "alright youre kind of boring as an antagonist" to "I guess you're cute now that you're cured" to EXTREMELY interesting.
He's a villain that isn't an antagonist! He takes Sun's hero complex and Moon's martyr complex to the extreme! The only goal he had was to get rid of the threat offered by the creators, in a permanent and complete way-- and nothing else. He holds no ill will towards anyone else--hell, he's so willing to work with people that he doesn't personally like that it keeps throwing him off when others don't think the same way (like showing up to ask for Moon's help and getting tossed into baby jail and strangled instead).
He doesn't like causing harm. He made certain to stress that the whole dimensional evaporation thing wasn't painful, and he despises Dark Sun for being a sadist. He did his best to sabatogue Bloodmoon’s plan and minimize the damage to Earth.
He's desperate to be helpful and useful to others-- even if they keep taking from him without his consent, he still keeps volunteering. He also has a hilarious response of being belligerent when annoyed with someone, like pretending not to know about the wither shard.
He's exceptionally traumatized. Can you imagine what it was like running around for 50 years pretending you're infected, all the while watching the mental and physical deterioration of everyone you know-- and knowing it's YOUR fault they're like this? And it was the person who MADE you, your actual literal Creator, who first started the infection?
And he has no hope. Everything Ruin has done since Thanos snapping the dimensions has been a kind of filler for him, because he expects to die soon. Actually he's lived longer than I think he expected and didn't really know what to do with himself for a while in there. When/if Dark Sun or Nexus feeds him to the witherstorm, I'll be surprised if he tries to fight back.
Also he keeps getting kidnapped and imprisoned, which is kind of funny. I think we're up to 4 kidnappings, 2 jailbreaks, and 4 imprisonments.
Just like... he's a fascinating guy with strong personal motives, and a much more agreeable personality than our other strongly motivated ex-antagonist, Eclipse. There's a lot of potential to work with, and how to get him out of the hole he's dug himself into. Overcoming the whole "I erased 5000 dimensions, including one that your family member came from, and also indirectly caused a different family member to leave" is just one of the challenges!
I know it's not an issue of "but he's hurt/killed one of the other characters!" Because -points at Blood Moon and Eclipse-. Both (all five? six?) have killed other main characters and been antagonists, and it hasn't stopped folks from writing them. Hell, Eclipse killed his own estranged brother for no reason other than petty revenge, and folks still somehow make it work.
So yeah idk. I think Ruin is really interesting and deserves a bit more attention.
#tsams#the sun and moon show#tsams ruin#Initially I was going to submit this to the confessions blog but one I feel like. It'd be real obvious it's me#Two by the time it came out of the queue I think he'll have been killed off in Canon#I could go on and on about some things but I tried to stick to purely Canon examples of his actions#Instead of mixing in any headcanons#And yes I'm putting my money where my mouth is#And currently have some WIPs that are Ruin focused#Obligatory disclaimer that there's nothing wrong if you prefer bad guy Ruin or sweet cured Ruin of course#Different things scratch the brain and I'm just yelling about my specific one <3
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Ruin has nightmares about the stuff he had to do to survive in his dimension
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
I love Ruin angst
#tsams#sams#the sun and moon show#sun and moon show#tsams headcanons#sams headcanons#sun and moon show headcanons#the sun and moon show headcanons#tsams ruin#sams ruin#sun and moon show ruin#the sun and moon show ruin
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Ray Headcanons
"Suns" generally have soft, more malleable rays while "Eclipses" have stiffer rays. In this sense Solstice counts as a "Sun" with their petal like rays. They all respond well to petting/playing with their rays, and stiff "Eclipse" rays are good for scritching (granted that claws are put away which then becomes an issue). Most of the time this will result in the animatronic going quiet and accepting the affection, unless its Eclipse who will either push you away (if he has not had his redemption arc) or demand you continue (after redemption arc).
When stressed solar models will pull/tug or scratch/pick at their rays with their claws. Sun and Solstice pull, Helios and Eos scratch, and Eclipse will do both. Scratching is more noticeable and visibly damages the rays, but ray pulling at its worse can crack or even fully yank rays out of their sockets.
The only lunar model with rays is Bloodmoon, which can only be activated by Bloody as the twin based on more "solar" coding. Their rays are short and stubby and only flare out in short bursts when extremely threatened. Bloody can't flare them out on command and they never stay out for long so they sadly cannot be pet.
#basil headcanons#sun and moon show#tsams#sams sun#sams eclipse#sams ruin#sams solar#helios#eos#solstice#sams bloodmoon#silly celestials au
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Lee HC’s! (In order of appearance bc the image-uploading is being weird- sorry for the shit formatting!)
Lee!Sun:
First of all, we shall list what kind of lee he is; Easily flustered.
Sunny obviously wheezes, but he wheezes the most if his rays are being targeted.
Sunny cannot say the t-word for the life of him when he’s in a lee!mood, but can easily say it when actual tkls aren’t involved. Worst spot is his wrists, lightly tracing his wrist will kill the poor guy- (but he will be very happy despite his whines of protest.)
Whenever Earth goes to play with his rays, the reason he always sounds so startled, is because he’s trying not to laugh.
Sun is less of a wriggler, and more of a bargainer, opting to try and talk his way out of being wrecked instead of actually trying to escape.
Lee!Moon:
Moon is the kind of lee who insists they’re not ticklish somewhere, only for it to be like- one of their worst spots.
Speaking of worst spots, His knees. His knees, are just death. He is rendered helpless the second you go for his knees.
Moon is more of a ler than a lee usually, but will very embarrassedly ask Sun, Earth, Or Solar for tkls when he’s in a lee!mood, he would go to Lunar only if he needs the kind of tkls that completely fry your brain, like if he’s overthinking about his past self or something similar.
Definitely more of a wriggler than Sun- he will fight for his LIFE (even if he’s the one who asked for tkls.)
Inspired by a certain fic, (You know who you are /pos) A good way to comfort or calm him is light tkls on the hand, typically Sun or Earth does this, but Solar has been allowed to do so a couple times.
Lee!Earth:
Probably the most open lee of the group- like, she can directly ask for tkls without using any code words or substitutes, even in a really bad Lee!mood- (the others envy her bravery)
Worst spot is her hips, but a close second is the back of her neck, under her mountain of hair.
Will go to anyone she trusts for tkls, but mainly opts to ask Monty, Sun, Moon, Lunar and Solar, as she’s closest with them.
Has thought about asking Moon or Solar to add a cropped turtleneck to her list of outfits, but is a little hesitant. (not too cropped, like- right where the ribs end.)
Very fond of tkls in general, as it’s a very good way to strengthen bonds with those you love. Lee!Lunar:
One of the worst wrigglers of the entire celestial family, no matter what-
Has difficulty saying the t-word when in a lee!mood, but it’s not impossible for him.
Has very likely been the Guinea pig for Gemini (Castor and Pollux) when they were curious about tkls, Pollux was probably the one to bring it up. (Before all uh. The recent happenings, of course.)
Worst spot is probably his tummy, (wow so creative/j) but a very close second is the joints of his arms.
Super feather-sensitive because I say so.
Cheer up tkls are his kryptonite, but they don’t Always work-
Has been tkld by Jack before, because he made the mistake of mentioning the word while Jack was nearby- (wasn’t as bad as he expected, kinda fun actually.) Lee!Blood-Twins:
More Ler’s than Lee’s, but The less crazy one, (I personally call this one HarvestMoon/Harvest) typically has more lee!moods than the more feral one (Normal ol BloodMoon)
Now these two, THEY are THE WORST wrigglers in the celestial family, with Lunar being a very, VERY close second.
They will bite and claw whoever is tklng them, no matter who it is- they will cause damage- it is inevitable- you’re signing your death certificate if you try to get them-
Like Sun, they CANNOT say the T-word, but like. Ever- it doesn’t matter what context the situation has, they’re going to substitute the word- the t-word hurts their pride and ego, and they refuse to let that happen. If they do actually say the t-word, it is very much an accident that they will recall whenever they try to sleep- and curl up into a flustered little ball of growls.
They pretend to hate tkls, but due to how rare it is that they get any kind of positive touch, they absolutely secretly adore it.
Obviously their worst spot is the left underarm, where that weak point is, (THAT CANONICALLY IS TKLISH‼️) but a close second is their tummy, because of how doglike they act sometimes.
Playing off the last one, yes. Yes they kick like a puppy when someone tkls their tummy. It is incredibly embarrassing for them, though, as they cannot control it, and will very likely growl the whole time-
They do indeed have a “sweet spot” like a dog, but I’m just gonna let y’all try and guess where it is <3 (I’m evil I know.). Lee!Eclipse:
OH MY FUCKING GOD. Literally the biggest goddamn lee of the celestial family it’s not even funny.
He is a walking death-spot, but his absolute worst spot is most definitely the middle of his back, he goes LIMP immediately.
Ridiculously touch-starved, so he’s very likely to just melt into any tkls he’s given. (Sometimes even if the intent is malicious-)
Like Sun, he wheezes, but (because I say so) he will occasionally let out a catlike giggle or squeak, which he’s very flustered by.
HE CANNOT EVEN USE SUBSTITUTES FOR THE T-WORD. He just has to hint around without mentioning anything even slightly similar to the dreaded t-word and pray that whoever he’s trying to get tkls from catches his drift.
He’s the most likely to get clingy if he’s been thoroughly wrecked, it doesn’t matter who did it, he’s gonna cling to them and refuse to let go- such a pathetic wet cat of a man. Lee!Solar:
Yeah, like Earth, he’s also a pretty calm lee (not open about it though-)
Solar can say the t-word, without substitutes, no matter what, and it’s VERY RARE for him to use a substitute.
Actually quite fond of “go the fuck to sleep/take a break” tkls. (Sometimes purposefully stays up too late working on something to provoke the others (Mainly Moon and Spaniard (the computer) into tklng him-)
Not much of a wriggler or a bargainer, but definitely a whiner- he will protest so damn much despite visibly enjoying the tkls.
Solar’s worst spot is like, right above his hips. He will definitely hiccup if you go for that.
Lee!KC:
Used to be more of a ler before he went all hippy mode (/pos) but now leans more towards being a lee.
Like Moon, his worst spot is his knees, but back when he had his mindscape form, it was definitely his paws- 100%. (Yes KC used to have paws, I’m still reeling myself in after nearly a year.)
more of a soft giggler, with very few loud noises like squeals or shrieks.
He can say the t-word sometimes, but usually has to use substitutes. Lee!ForkFace:
One of the more ler-learning members of the group, but definitely still has lee!moods.
whenever Forky decides to have their rays, that’s usually how you can tell they’re in a lee!mood, as their rays are quite tklish but not as much as Sun’s or any of the other ray-possessors.
Has the quietest giggles of the whole group, mainly because they rarely talk- but definitely has moments when they go from quiet, rapid breathing to simulate giggling, to a sudden screech-
Oddly enough, their worst spot is their lower-arm, a close second would be their neck.
a little more embarrassed about tkls than you’d think, especially because it’s more difficult to ask for them when they don’t feel like talking.
Earth and Foxy are the people they mainly go to for tkls, Earth is the one who taught them what it is, actually! Lee!JackOMoon:
Puppy brained little goober who barely understands the concept of tkls, had to research it one day because he mistook Solar wrecking Lunar (for calling him a twink) as violence, and tried to mutilate Solar-
Doesn’t understand why he suddenly feels an urge to be tkld, but usually goes to Solar, Lunar or surprisingly ForkFace to ask about it.
Can say the t-word in any context, as he doesn’t really understand anything that he feels when in a lee!mood.
Has tried to tkl himself, was very confused when it didn’t cause the same sensation as when someone else does.
Like BloodMoon (and Harvest,) Jack’s puppy brain causes him to kick when someone gets his tummy.
The second boldest lee of the group, right behind Earth, as he can’t feel embarrassment (not yet anyway- the day he gains embarrassment, he will be in the same boat as Eclipse in terms of asking for tkls-). Lee!Ruin:
3rd most open lee of the group, very capable of just asking for tkls without substitutes.
Despite being able to say the t-word, he will definitely Hesitate to ask for tkls- he’s very self conscious the poor lad.
Ruin is more of a “go limp and whine” kind of lee, but doesn’t deny that he likes tkls.
if he’s unable to bring himself to ask for tkls, he will pout and whine like a toddler until someone catches on.
Like Eclipse, he’s a walking deathspot- AND THIS IS BY CHOICE, HE BUILT HIS OWN BODY, HE WIRED HIS SENSORS THIS WAY. (The others love to tease him about that, and the friendly teasing always just makes him super happy and feel like he’s not a burden or out of place <3) (I’ll add ler HC’s later- rn I have writers block💀 edit: nvm no I won’t I have too many non-tk-community friends and I’m terrified of making them hate me bc of how stereotyped the community is
#Sun and Moon Show tickles#TSAMs tk HC’s#Lee!Sun#Lee!Moon#Lee!Earth#Lee!Lunar#Lee!BloodMoon#(Lee!HarvestMoon)#Lee!Eclipse#Lee!Solar#Lee!KC#(Lee!KillCode)#Lee!ForkFace#Lee!JackO#(Lee!JackOMoon)#Lee!Ruin#Tickle headcanons#weird ass formatting sorry-
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TSAMS Headcanons [But ME being uncreative tho :D]
PLEASE LEMME JUST IGNORE THE LORE RIGHT NOW AND INSTEAD HAVE SOME ✨POSITIVITY ✨ SPREAD HERE :'D
Alright, let's get this sh*t rolling >:D
Moondrop uses he/they/it pronouns and identifies as boyflux, sometimes feeling strongly male and at other times less so, occasionally identifying with the agender spectrum as well. [I'M F*CKING BAD AT EXPLAINING BRO BUT I'VE AN EXCUSE: I'm not your teacher, YOUR TEACHER IS GOOGLE NOW SO LOOK IT THE F*CK UP PLS 😭]
Earth believes Santa Claus is real, and if anyone would tell her the truth and shatter her dreams, her whole fam would straight up find out the person's IP adress and idk, sent Monty like a military to the location.
While Ruin was the adorable silly shark we all loved [BEFORE THIS PLOT TWIST HAPPENED-] he forced Solar to particapate in his stage plays. Solar would be the princess, and Ruin would be the prince who would save him :D They got the dresses from Earth, who complimented Solar RESTLESSLY how gorgeous he looked in them :D Lunar would just say:" Stylish twink >:D"
Lunar regresses his age during intense situations and when he's reminded by his trauma. Earth often takes then the caretaker role. [I've not many headcanons for Lunar 😭]
The Bloodmoon Twins love nature and are befriended with some animals in a forest. For example, they play with wolf puppies and go with them on hunts :D AND I HEADCANON THEM AS ASEXUAL AND POLYROMANTIC BECAUSE MY HEADCANONS, MY RULES-
The whole celestial family and their villains are asexual because I think it would be cool if all of them share a single trait and have a common ground :D It would be also logical cuz like, when all kinda have the same code or stemmed from other codes, then it would make sense that they share some traits? 🤔
Moon has a passion for anything related to horror, including true-crime stories and creepypastas that he only reads because he can laugh at them. He would be that type of guy who leaves troll comments on some random creepypasta fanfics XD
Eclipse actually really likes fashion and to simply look stylish! :D He even has a passion for it and spends hours choosing his attire, struggling to decide which one to take. Most of the time, he chooses a a black vest with a white shirt underneath, the sleeves of which are fitted tightly and extend to his elbows. He prefers to go with an old-fashioned and gentlemanly style. However, he doesn't necessarily reject more feminine styles and ocassionally likes to put eyeshadows or an eyeliner on as well. Earth and Eclipse share therefore a common ground because both really like fashion :D
Okay, there SOME POSITIVITY SPREAD! :D Maybe I'll post some angsty headcanons later on, BUT Y'KNOW, MY MOTIVATION IS FASTER GONE THAN A DAMN BUGATTI SO PFF- XD
#Tsams#sams#sams eclipse#sams earth#tsams earth#tsams eclipse#sams lunar#tsams lunar#tsams headcanons#sams headcanons#tsams moon#sams moon#sams solar#tsams solar#tsams ruin#sams ruin#sun and moon show
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With my BASIC ASS Understanding of certain TSAMS Characters. These is the Pokémon types I think they’d have:
Sun: Fairy or Grass
Moon: Dark or Fighting, maybe Ghost or Steel
Eclipse: Poison, Ghost, Steel, and Dragon
Lunar: Fairy, Water, Electricity, Ice, and Fighting
Earth: Fairy, Grass, Rock, Flying and Water
Solar: Fighting, Dragon, Steel, and Fairy
Ruin: Fire, Dark, Ghost, Psychic, and Poison
Killcode: Ghost, Dark, Water, Psychic and Ice
Bloodmoon/Bloodtwins:
Twin 1: Ghost, Physic, Poison, and Bug
Twin 2: Ghost, Dark, Poison, and Fighting
StitchWraith: Psychic, Steel, Ice, and Ghost
Foxy: Ground, Normal, Steel, and Fighting
Monty: Dragon, Rock, Ground, Steel, and Fighting
Jack: Fighting, Fire, Electric, Dark, Fairy
Frank: Psychic, Grass, Flying, and Ghost
#nova’s rambles#not a transformers post#tsams#tsams eclipse#tsams solar#tsams sun#tsams moon#tsams jack#tsams lunar#tsams monty#tsams frank#tsams forkface#tsams earth#tsams ruin#tsams foxy#tsams killcode#tsams bloodmoon#tsams bloodtwins#pokemon#pokemon types#tsams headcanons
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Do you have any sad Ruin headcanons?
I do anon!
1:Ruin has so many different personalities whenever he acts her doesn't know which one is his true one
2:He still has his moon and sun side and the mood side is very protective of the sun side and it causes a force control from the moon side hurting the sun side a bit
3:Ruin can't ever not act around people...that's basically how it was for years
4:ruin can't ever apologize to anyone they all think he's acting
5:Ruin finds ways to be what he thinks the true him without people noticing
6:The sun side of ruin has no control over the body ever
#sun and moon show#sams#tsams#the sun and moon show#ruin headcanon#ruin tsams headcanon#ruin tsams#tsams ruin#gummysunny ask answered#ask answered#asks open#anon ask answered
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I headcanon that Ruin is a really good singer, they just sing badly in front of others on purpose cause shy.
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TSAMS Smut Dynamic Headcanons
Ruin would be such a bitchy brat but also the biggest masochist and I think that's so fun. Just- the most sarcastic person in bed, but like if given a shock collar I seriously think he'd act out until he fried all of his circuits if you let him. Praise kink like all of them, but also a slight degradation kink? You'd have to be particular about it though... He'll take full offense and safeword out if you bring up something touchy (which he should). On the right side of the degradation though, it stokes the flames of his little sadistic heart, and he loves using it as an excuse to "correct your manners." Yeah, huge sadomasochist. He loves dishing it out just as much as he loves taking it. Put his Jigsaw mind to work on pain games, he'll come up with the most elaborate, tantalisingly painful-pleasurable things to do together. Also big into roleplay, obviously.
Bloodmoon I headcanon as aroace, but not at all sex repulsed. It just has no significance to them one way or the other. "Just fuck if/who you want to, we don't care," is the general vibe.
Sun... is a virgin. Definitely. I feel like he mostly doesn't know what he likes with other people. With himself, though, he likes to take his time. He sets up the area so clean up will be easy. He has a whole list of steps he goes through, and takes masturbation in stages. Towel down, lube/toy(s) on a little tray, clothes folded neatly at the edge of the bed—getting everything set up gives his mind space to unspool from its usual snarl of worries, and having everything where/how he wants it really helps centre him. During, he makes these breathy, whiny little noises as he pinches his rays and teases his nethers. He's a habit of keeping quiet from the time he shared a room (practically—the crawl space had no door), and despite having a room of his own now, automatically stifles moans into pants, or just full-on shoves his face into the pillow while he desperately humps his hand.
Solar... God does he have a praise kink. He's not good at accepting praise point-blank, but get him on his knees for you and tell him how good he's doing, how good he feels, how much you love being there with him? Oh he is gone gone. Big service top energy, just loves being appreciated and reciprocated.
Lunar is like... the squirmiest bottom imaginable. He gets overwhelmed super easily. Makes all these cute little noises, communicates in mostly "nnngggghhh mooorrreee"s and "ha-ah, mhmm, don'stop,"s, gets really fussy. He likes to reciprocate, but it's gotta be before or after, because in the moment you're pleasuring him? Oh he's just in another world entirely. On cloud fifteen. Gone. Huge size kink—if you're bigger he will take advantage, but still has a general preference for people his own size. Melts like putty in the sun if you tell him how much you love him, cherish him, can't get enough of him, etc. Loves being stuffed as full as possible. Get someone significantly bigger than him to lift him up and slowly force him down on a huge dildo and watch as his eyes cross, mouth hangs open, distant little "ngah-ahh!"s slipping from his mouth as he can't stop rolling his hips, feeling every. Last. Inch. Filling his belly. Just panting, mindlessly clinging onto his partner, completely incapable of anything other than bouncing on that glorious appendage until he comes so hard he sees galaxies.
New Moon/Nexus... this one's interesting. He doesn't know whether he's like Old Moon and aroace, or something else. To me that means he's never cared enough to explore it. I think, now that he's becoming more of his own person, he may branch out and try new things (*cough* Dusk *cough*). I can see him engaging in experimental hate sex at first, and slowly learning what he likes through that. At first it's an experiment, later something he enjoys for its own merits.
Earth's like... panromantic demisexual. If that makes sense. She likes the person, and needs to feel safe and loved with them before she moves on to more. Sex is a very intimate and emotional thing for her.
#none of this feels original but ig fuck it we ball is the whole concept of this blog#tsams#sams#laes#tsams sun#tsams nexus#tsams bloodmoon#tsams solar#tsams earth#tsams lunar#tsams ruin#tsams headcanons#just to be clear I'm NOT doing the lunar is a child thing here#in case that needed to be said#everyone is mentally an adult
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Wooo boy, I disappeared for a bit there lol ^^ Sorry about that
Anyway, I've been having so much fun in the last couple months with the TSAMS lore and I've been thinking of posting a couple times, but just didn't find the time for it. But now, or at least soon, I have time :)
We all know how Moon's been going insane for like, the last month or so, making bad decision after bad decision, and since the episode "You're Making A Mistake in VRChat", I've been thinking Moon might have been corrupted somehow. That corruption probably happened when he talked with Old Moon, because signs of his sanity rapidly declining started after that. Wonder why. ¬_¬
Even before that talk, he was doing horribly, but he at least wasn't having realistic hallucinations of scenarios nor was he sinking so deeply into the whole 'I have to kill to protect my familly' mindset.
In the previously mentioned video Newmoon was hallucinating Oldmoon, possibly as a form of his conscience, but I like to think that might actually be the guy talking. What could have happened (and I know it's a very big if, but eh) is Monty possibly screwing up by not foreseeing a side-effect they should have. But like, also you can't predict every outcome, and being corrupted by talking to an old version of yourself - who shouldn't exist, since ya know, the whole getting erased part - isn't an ordinary outcome, or something that like ever happened.
We know that Newmoon talking with Oldmoon was possible because a sort of instinctual, pre-programmed backup was created of him, one that could be potentially accessed by The Creator. We also know this backup is unable to front the body, or reactivate on its own, but then yet again, was it not poked at? Was it not, in a way, activated?
It is possible that Monty, by allowing Newmoon to access that part of his head, unintentionally reactivated him and may have cause some form of corruption to begin in their shared systems. Since now that he may be potentionally active, they're shared again. Even if he's unable to front, he might still have some affects, that even HE doesn't want.
Oldmoon, for all his faults, wouldn't have ever decided to leave his family alone, unlike Newmoon, who internalised their entire conversation. He also misunderstood I think, because the whole point of his existence is to be the better version. To me it felt like during their conversation, that Oldmoon was trying to tell him to do whatever it takes to protect their family, but he also probably meant for him to stay true to himself and not go on self-destructing spirals and fall to the same mistakes he did.
If we theorise, or headcanon, that during that confrontation in Moon's current hide-out he WAS actually talking to the real manifestation of the real Oldmoon, then it could mean very bad things for Newmoon. Because the only way I can even begin to think that's possible, is corruption of code as I previously mentioned before.
If their AIs are somewhat intermingling with one another, then that is not only not intended, but also probably extremely harmful for their coding. It may also possibly cause insanity or other mental problems, explainging the current state of things. It also brings up questions.
IF that is Oldmoon, then can he grow "strong" enough to take over the body? Even if just partially? IF Moon is corrupted, then is there a way to fix his code without another factory reset?
Or, which is the more likely thing, the aforementioned conscience manifesting in the form of Oldmoon, the person Newmoon can't help but still compare himself to? Possibly (probably)
It is just simply too fun to think about scenarios like this ^^
The what ifs, the burning questions, the Oldmoon content in the last month or so, are just too exciting for me not to think and talk about!
Even if I'm probably wrong about this, and it really is just grief corroding away at Moon's sanity and his conscience manifesting as the most unlikely person, I'll still headcanon until proven otherwise that it's actually Oldmoon. Would explain why it's actually him haunting Moon now.
Monty, my person, my lovely theythem, partner, you may have fucked up. We should all know by now that the dead should stay dead (:
#sun and moon show#tsams#sams#the sun and moon show#tsams moon#sams moon#little theory/headcanon thingy#SaturdaysWithSunray#SorrowfulSaturday#ver Sad this time#also I really really like where Ruin's character is going#and is#he's so fun#and yesterday's episode hurt me emotionally and I'm here for it >:D#and since nobody reads these#yester's episode's dimension is like eerily similar to an AU I'm working on#like wtf#only Earth's missing#and then it'd be almost the same#so...#AU canon?!?!?!4#lol#no
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All Eclipse's are theater kids (like me lol) but they all have different favorite musicals
Eclipse- Heather's, Mean Girls, or Six
Solar- The Great Gatsby, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, or Ride the Cyclone
Ruin- Hamilton (obvi) or Legally Blonde
Lord Eclipse- Epic or Beetlejuice
Swap Eclipse- Dear Even Hansen or Be More Chill
This is so real
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Alright tsams pride hc post lets go Sun: Pan (Trans woman in some aus) Moon: Aroace (canon) agender Nexus: Aroace (canon) transfem nonbinary Lunar: Bi demiboy Earth: Pan (canon) Eclipse: Gay trans man Solar: Gay transmasc nonbinary Bloodmoon: Aroace nonbinary KC: Pan aroallo Ruin: Queer Also I'm ace and will randomly slap a character with the ace label depending on the AU (mostly silly celestials a lot of them end up ace) but that's not always the case so yeah wasn't going to note that for all of them individually.
#basil headcanons#ruin gets no specific label he just IS#also these hcs apply to characters like helios and solstice who are solar and ruin just under a different name#sun and moon show#tsams
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