#royal family of li

[starry-bi-sky]

Who is the more well-adjusted twin; Damian, or Danyal? Why, it's Damian, of course!

And I have an explanation for this! But first I wanna preface this that this is just me like, rambling about this thought I have and it's not an attack on the trope as a whole. I love the Danyal Al Ghul au which is why i'm so deeply passionate about it, because I think it has a lot of potential to be explored. It's no secret that I've mentioned before that I think Danny's psychological development tends to get overlooked and underutilized in DAG aus, and the impact that growing up in an assassin league often goes ignored. This is just me further expanding on that.

Now lets set the stage! This is specifically for Danny who is adopted by the Fentons later down in life. Lets go twin au. At 10 years old, Damian goes to the Wayne Family, Danny is adopted by the Fentons (regardless of their affiliation with the League). By 14 years old, who ends up the better adjusted, more socially aware, spiritually in-tune with themselves, sibling? Why, Damian is! Why is that?

Because he has the actual support he needs compared to Danny. And I'm not talking about good or bad parents Fentons, because either way my opinion doesn't change. Damian would end up the better off twin, because, frankly, his family knows his background. They know he grew up in the League, they know what the League's teachings are, and they know he's a born and raised assassin. Knowing this, they can then help tackle and dismantle the teachings and lessons he has been given and ingrained into by the League. They may be a dysfunctional family, but they're functional enough to at least actively help deprogram all of the League's teachings that have been ingrained in Damian throughout his childhood.

Can't say the same for Danny.

Lets say Fentons here don't know his background -- and even if they do, the results may just stay the same if they play their cards wrong, -- Danny's now just been thrown into the deep end of a pool and is essentially being told sink or swim. Regardless of how he got there -- undercover, faked death, etc -- he has no proper support. He knows the League is meant to be secret, he's not gonna speak on it for various reasons. Whether it be some still lingering loyalty, fear of harm, or whatever. Whatever the reason is, he does not have a proper support system in the Fentons, no matter how nice they are. They can only tackle the surface level stuff and whatever Danny allows them to see -- if Danny ever lets them see it at all. For what do assassins do when they don't want to be caught? They hide. Sometimes in plain sight.

"But Jazz--" Jazz is a child. She is 2 years older than Danyal and no better at giving him a proper support system than the two adult Fenton parents, even with parentification. We don't know when she got into psychology or how long she'd been studying it by the time Danny's 14. We just know she's really into it. Even then, Jazz is not a licensed or reliable therapist, or even an experienced or implied good therapist, and should not be used as one either. It's a disservice to her character to reduce her down to 'supporting female emotional crutch'. Besides, therapy only works on people who want to get better. Danny, who'd be hiding who he really is, has very little incentive to want to, or to even think something is wrong with his way of thinking, even with exposure to the outside world.

When people's beliefs are outright challenged, they tend to double down on them, and Jazz canonically has a habit of psychoanalyzing her family and declaring what she thinks is the problem -- regardless of whether or not she's right about it. Jazz would get into psychology, try and psychoanalyze Danny, and all it would do is cause him to clam up, shut into himself further, and throw up even more walls so that she can't figure out that he has been lying this whole time. It would do more harm than good, and would actively hinder any progress he'd make in trying to open up to them. Roads and good intentions and all that.

That being said, I think Danny's development and dismantling of the League's teachings would be slower than Damian's. Much slower. Because he would be the one having to pick apart everything and figure out what is right, what is wrong, what he wants to keep, and what he wants to toss. Everything he unlearns would be stuff he has to unlearn himself. If he even gets to that point at all -- depending on his experiences, he very well could not change at all, or change very little. The League acts as a purge for humanity, meant to reign in their hubris and retain balance, they just also happen to be assassins for hire. Danny's time spent in Amity Park could as well strengthen his belief in their teachings just as much as it could weaken it, especially if it goes as canon and he gets bullied.

Regardless, being tossed to a civilian family as someone who is very much not a civilian, without any support, would be actively detrimental to Danny's overall mental health and development. Especially to strangers like the Fentons. Damian was closed off and standoffish even with blood family, and it took him time to open up to them -- Danny, with the Fentons, would be even more so. He doesn't know them, he doesn't trust them, he has no rhyme or reason to open up to them, and since the Fentons don't actually know him, they can't help him the way he needs. Once "Danny Fenton" is made, he has even less reason to open up. So long as Danyal allows it, they will only ever know Danny, and they'll never know Danyal.

TL:DR the Fentons aren't the better family option just because they're civilians, and actually that makes them the worser option between the two because they can't give Danny the proper support he needs. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[trexalicious]

[bitchliteraria1906]

Asgard royal family headcanons! (Specifically about Loki and how he relates to each family member).

• I really like the headcanon that Frigga was pregnant before Odin took Loki, and she lost the baby. Mostly because it makes sense logically (that would make Loki easy to explain! He's not some random baby that spawned out of nowhere, they can just say he's the child she was pregnant with!). But also, it adds another layer to their relationship: he's an adopted rainbow baby.

• Because of this, she remembers baby Loki very fondly, romanticizing the memories a bit. I'd even dare to say she remembers Loki as an easier baby than Thor, even though, objectively speaking, that's not true at all. Loki cried more, screamed more, needed special care. Which was to be expected: he was way too young to be separeted from his mom, and the bright lights and warmer weather of Asgard (in comparisson to Jotunheim, that is) were bad for him. Odin even feared that it would be too much to Frigga, that she would beg him to take Loki back or something, but his fragile state just made Frigga want to take care of him more, and she rarely, if ever, complained.

• Odin's feelings were very different, of course. He remembers Thor as the easy baby, because Thor was predictable. Familiar. He didn’t need special lights for sensitive eyes or cold cloths pressed into his forehead to be able to sleep in hot nights. He did all the things, both cute and annoying, that an Asgardian baby is supposed to do, expected to do. Nothing more and nothing less. And of course, he wasn't a secret and a stolen child.

• The golden child vs black sheep dynamic was set from the start, is what I'm saying.

• Odin's treatment of Loki has so much layers that it probably deserves it's own post, so I won’t talk much about it here.

•Constanly comparing him to Thor. Sometimes it was subtle, but sometimes it was literally just saying "Why can't you be more like your brother?"

• I'm not sure what Asgard's stance on physical punishment would be. Like, I can definitely see some people thinking it makes kids stronger or whatever, but Idk.

• Regardless of what the common Asgardian stance on hitting your kids is, I don’t think is something Odin and Frigga would automatically jump to with young Thor and Loki. Frigga doesn't want to hurt them, and Odin prefers other forms of discipline.

• He's definitely not above hitting, though. It may not be his go-to method to actually teach them things, but a smack for talking back from time to time? It has happened, especially with Loki.

• Every punishment happened more with Loki, actually. Odin knew he specifically hated time out, because of how it forced him to think about what he did wrong while completely alone in his room. Sometimes he'd come out ashamed of himself, sometimes he'd just be angry. Either way, he wouldn't willingly talk to Odin for the rest of the day, either completely isolating himself or clinging more to Frigga. Most of the time, Odin wouldn't even notice, and for Loki, that was the most painful part.

•Frigga genuinely loved Loki, but she also had a hand in perpetuating the racism against frost giants (either by action or by compliance) and let a lot of Odin's treatment of him slide. She also had a "defending the person who isn't in the room" approach to conflict, so in the rare occasions that Loki vented to her about Odin, though she was a good listener, she didn't really validate his feelings that much? It was always "I know your father can be difficult, but he just wants what's best for you!" or "I guess he could've been nicer about it, but is he wrong, honey? You already know he doesn't like it when you do that."

•When it came to defending Loki (or speaking up about how Odin was raising both him and Thor in general), she mostly worked in the shadows. She’d argue with Odin about it when they were alone, but never in front of others, and Loki took her silence as agreement, basically thinking "Well, if Mother doesn't speak up when Father is so harsh to me, maybe it's because she agrees. And if she, who is the kindest person I know, agrees, maybe I actually do deserve it."

•Despite all these issues, she was still the person Loki felt the safest around, and a very self indulgent hc I have for them is that they had a special place they would go to when Loki was exceptionally upset. Maybe it was a special room in the palace, or a library, or a garden, or even a little house in some woods nearby. Regardless, they'd stay there for some hours until Loki was feeling better and ready to face the world again.

•At some point Loki decided he was too old to keep needing her this way and that he needed to change that if he wanted to be taken seriously, so he stopped going to said comfort place with her and overall leaning on her too much. She was pretty heartbroken, not only because of that "Damn it, my kid is growing up and changing" feeling that leaves a lot of parents distraught, but also because, knowing Loki too well, she knew that this sudden change came from a place of insecurity and wanting to be taken more seriously by Odin, Thor and his friends, mentors, and pretty much everyone.

•Thor and Loki's relationship as kids was innocent and simple and pretty much what you'd expect from 2 kids who are royals and raised in a culture that values warriors and strenght: lots of competion and sibling rivarly, play fighting, but also a lot of teamwork.

•Thor took his big brother title very seriously as a kid. Yes, he teased Loki a lot, but he was also protective and sweet. Whenever they went on little adventures together, like exploring some place they weren't supposed to go, he'd put Loki's safety before his own.

•This might have been half fueled by Frigga saying "Take care of your brother" whenever they went out to play, or by Odin constanly saying that Thor was the strongest one between him and Loki (see 6th headcanon). Probably both.

•The real problems started in their teenage years, when the golden child vs black sheep dynamic became more obvious. Thor was the perfect stereotype of an Asgardian warrior and king, and was surrounded by friends (and potential romantic partners) who also reached some amazing standards. Meanwhile, Loki was a quieter, more fragile looking and weirder person, with an interest in magic, a different way of fighting, an aversion to most social gatherings and no friends. Most of Thor's friends just tolerated him. Some took interest in him the same way someone would take interest in an exotic animal: they'd listen to him for a while, just enough to see if he really was as weird as he looked, and then leave as soon as they got their answers and their fun.

•This, along with Odin's favoritism becoming even more obvious, really soured Thor and Loki's relationship, leading to some arguments in which pretty cruel words were said by both of them (I might write this).

I could go on but I'm tired lmao. Maybe another day.

Some inspiration was taken from @taw-k and @unityrain24 btw!

[severe-kitty]

Silver: We have decided that if anything happens to me or Cole, we'd want Elsa to be Ava's guardian.

Elsa: That is great news! Ava, when something horrible happens you're going to be all mine.

Cole: It really is more of an 'if' situation.

Elsa: All mine!

[phoenix-king-ozai]

Personally I see Ozai as a quiet kid for the most part. It's when someone touches him/pisses him off the inner menace shows up like Jeong finds out in my comic above.

Ozai was probably a quiet, cold, aloof, and callous child, especially during his teenage years, however, despite the hilariousness of this comic. I doubt an elite noble general or admiral would touch the Fire Prince of the Fire Nation without his direct approval and consent. Family members would be the exception and normal occurrence. However, it would be taboo and horrible manners for someone random to touch nobility, especially royals without approval. Even a general or admiral would probably have a finger or hand cut off for such an offense in a hierarchical-dominated society like in Fire Nation Elite Culture. Iroh and Azulon on the other hand would have no issue touching Ozai even Li and Lo; if they were Azulon's twin sisters. My headcanon is that Jeong Jeong is Li's son and Zhao is Lo's son. If that is the case then contact with Ozai would be permitted. Though I doubt Jeong Jeong would be touch-feely with Prince Ozai anyway even if he was his cousin. JJ was probably a bit strict, stern, and professionally aloof man even during the days of his military career as an Admiral and General though it got worse in the later years.

P.S. Also, Ozai as a prince and being raised by strict Azulon probably wouldn't attack Jeong Jeong outright but give him a strong and stern refusal of physical contact and respect for his personal space.

Jeong Jeong tries to pat Ozai's head and give him a hug…

Ozai: I would rather not...

Jeong Jeong: Very well, my prince…

[royalchildreneurope]

Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden, Prince Daniel of Sweden, Princess Estelle of Sweden and Prince Oscar of Sweden attend the concert of the Swedish pop star Miss Li, at Borgholm Castle ruins in Borgholm, Sweden -July 25th 2024.

[royalteachitchat]

Hey Harry! Did your Brother and Father approve this appearance? Are you a working Royal again? 🤴🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[zenlesszonezero]

Join Zenless Zone Zero with Tsukishiro Yanagi, the deputy leader of Hollow Special Operations Section 6! Beneath her ordinary office lady exterior lies a meticulous, emotionally intelligent big sister to the team.

[kingsandbastardz]

Oh here's a fun thing to think about -- LLH and JLQ as narrative foils for each other, revolving around DFS as a central focal point.

A list of things about them both and where they differ in approach and result:

both nanyin royalty (cousins) - one is aware and grows up suffering - rescued by DFS when she's 14 yrs old. Spends the rest of her teenage years looking up to him and then following him around. LLH is not aware and also grows up suffering but is rescued while still a child by martial arts teachers. Spends his teen years looking up to Shan Gudao and following him around.

also this post about their clothes by @difeisheng

DFS throws LLH into a snake pit to try to heal him. He also throws JLQ into a cave of her prisoners with intent to kill her. NEITHER WORK.

both both started their own sect:

LLH creates Sigu Sect with Shan Gudao (whom he loves and looks up to) to create order in a chaotic society. Then he tried to abandon it. JLQ went from controlling the sect of the man she loves and looks up to --- then steps sideways into wanting to be king herself, because why not? End goal of both is to have power and control over others but with different approaches in the 'how'.

Sigu Sect being at the beginning of their organization's life span at least attempts to stick with their original intent of helping the downtrodden with grievances. However, as can be seen with the revival of the sect- it only takes one incomplete generation for the veneer to be stripped free and that intent to be corrupted.

JLQ doesn't bother with ideals masking her intentions. She wants the castle, the wife, the power. She wants it all and she says it up front.

both start off will to do anything under the sun to remain at the side of the one they care about the most - only to switch their desires later on:

LLH starts off doing everything under the sun, including destroying two sects and going to war, to find the body of his beloved shixiong. He continues this thread of behavior later with DFS to get him to help, though he's far softer now and less likely to go to mortality level measures.

These are all things SGD wouldn't want LLH to do because he hates him. Then as the story develops, begins to repeatedly seek out DFS (why hasn't he come to look for me yet? Let's look for him.) or try to keep DFS nearby (amnesia arc is an exercise in trying to gently maintain his hold on DFS as long as possible but FDB and events put a stop to that).

JLQ starts off masterminding a war to destroy her competition and ensure the man she loves will be number 1 in the world. She continues this thread later, continuing to manipulate things behind the scenes to maintain power - arguably to use to benefit DFS and not against him.

The lengths she goes to is everything DFS would not want done because he hates the underhandedness. As the story develops, she switches to chaining DFS to her side instead of trying to convince him to willingly go to her.

In the end, LLH lets DFS go, walking away from him. Meanwhile in her end, JLQ watches DFS walk away from her.

both repeatedly lie to and betray DFS:

LLH breaks the treaty, wipes out a good chunk of Jinyuan Alliance in a sect battle, very nearly succeeds in killing DFS and partially disabling him (it takes 10 years and a magic potion for him to fully recover), lies repeatedly to his face, essentially soft kidnaps/blackmails him to force him to help him do a thing.

JLQ tries to kill 2 birds with one stone by poisoning her love rival + ensure DFS will win their anticipated duel, sets up a whole battle plan that would wipe out almost all of DFS' sect leadership, coopts a good chunk of Jinyuan Alliances' men and resources to form her own sect, kidnaps DFS to force him into being her wife.

DFS seems to either not take offense, or just outright forgives LLH of everything. DFS ignores/turns a blind eye to much of what JLQ does at first but ultimately kills her for her actions.

both attack DFS at a moment of his triumph, poisons him, removes his chi, and kidnaps him:

Immediately after DFS fully regains his power and health with the guanyin elixir, LLH reveals he attacked him to poison him with a chi-removing poison. Then essentially blackmails him into an extended roadtrip (kidnaps/'chains' him to stay at his side). Clothes and feeds him.

Immediately after gaining full bodily autonomy and receiving all the things that will solve LLH's problems in his hands, JLQ poisons him to reduce his power, works with Shan Gudao to attack and immobilize him, cuts his tendons, destroys his meridians so he can no longer access his chi, then kidnaps him to torture and literally chains him to her side to force him to stay with her. Threatens with more and further improved chains. Chains everywhere. In the novel he's naked. In the drama, he's got a symbolic under layer on.

DFS takes to LLH's methods far more than he does to JLQ for obvious reasons, but it's interesting to note that while their pattern of behavior is similar, their methods are violently different (literally). LLH's asura grass is non-lethal and removable without permanent damage. All his methods are very soft and unusually careful considering how durable DFS is. JLQ doesn't care if she damages DFS forever as long as he's under her control.

LLH wants DFS to buy into obedience/being under his control and is also aware he'll never be able to fully control him, and that DFS will absolutely say no and mean it -- he also doesn't fuss about having to do extra convincing/put in extra work to get him to continue to buy in.

JLQ wants DFS' willingness too, but can't figure out a way to get it without using extreme force, and doesn't like that DFS is not controllable and likely will never be fully controllable without destroying everything it means to be him. She doesn't like it when he says no.

Conclusion: LMAO it's in their dna. In a way, maybe it's good their families are dead. Cuz imagine the chaos of the older brother or the parents catching sight of DFS if this is the natural reaction to him?

[mistbornthief]

i just think they're fucking a really interesting dynamic

[silviakundera]

Haha I also used the dickless bore. I thought that only the two main characters came back didn't know he did as well. I still don't buy him ever being into her but that's just me I do wonder if he's going to try and kill her again. I do think Li Rong is treating him too well for my liking she should at least treat hit similarly or worse than she treated ML I want to see wet paper towel non stop suffer.

on one hand, imo a SRQ who is heartless doesn't work for the story the writer is trying to share with us. On the other hand, it's totally ok to decide to be a full-time hater towards a minor character, just because it's fun. I support haters! 🎉 \o/ 🎉

One thing that I think is relevant when comparing LR's reactions: if PWX had killed her, the motive would have been as part of his mission to have his childhood love Qin Zhenzhen's son become the next emperor. (Remember, he came over to threaten her life over that right before she died and called his ex Zhenzhen lmao) THE AUDACITY. In contrast, LR is viewing her murder at SRQ's hands as part of the revenge plan for the Su family's execution.

Some passages of Li Rong's POV:

After a few moments, she whispered: “Where did the scent on you come from?”

“If I say it, you might be upset.” Pei Wenxuan’s eyes had a hint of gloating at others’ pain.

Li Rong thought for a while and frowned, “Su Rongqing?”

“Yes.”

...Li Rong said nothing. She blankly stared into the fire.

Pei Wenxuan turned the fish over and looked at her with a smile, seemingly quite happy. Li Rong found that he had a fearless, unabashed look of enjoying a good play and couldn’t help but be a little fazed.

She believed everything Pei Wenxuan said.

---

Su Rongqing was someone that she saved with her own hands.

That year, Prince Su rebelled, and Su Rongqing’s elder brother spoke up for Prince Su. Later on, he was falsely accused of colluding with Prince Su, implicating the Su clan with treason.

At that time, Li Chuan was so furious that he fainted. He put the entire Su clan in prison without going through the Joint Trial of Three Divisions first and put the men to death and the women into exile. She disagreed with this decision and rushed to beg Li Chuan before the Su clan received their sentence. After being subjected to ten planks, with Pei Wenxuan’s intervention, she was finally able to ask for amnesty for the Su clan.

Even if the death sentences can be forgone, it was impossible to escape punishment while still alive. Even though the men of the Su clan could live, they would be subjected to castration. The others couldn’t bear the humiliation, so they all committed suicide in prison. When she arrived, there was only one man “desperate for life and afraid of death” left among the men of the Su clan, Su Rongqing.

At that time, she had told Su Rongqing that she saved him without the intention of asking him to repay her. She could give him silver and a position, so that he could continue to live a good life in the future.

Back then, she didn’t have any special feelings towards Su Rongqing. It was just that he had saved her before, so after he took care of her, bit by bit, she felt grateful, and…vague sentiments towards him.

For the most part, she sought to save the Su clan for Li Chuan and her own conscience. The Su clan was a prominent, noble family. It was difficult for her to sit back and watch if they died in such an ambiguous manner.

At that time, Su Rongqing refused to go.

...It wasn’t that she had never thought that Su Rongqing would not take revenge on her. After all, it was Li Chuan who ordered all the men of the Su clan to be beheaded and exiled all the female family members. It was impossible for anyone to forget this blood feud, let alone the formerly first and most outstanding gongzi of that year?

For so many years, she had never dared to give him real authority, observing him and guarding against him while still trying to help him live a better life. She couldn’t actually kill him because of her own conscience, but she couldn’t actually trust him and give him power.

In the end, he still decided to act. He killed her first, then successfully took her authority in the name of eliminating Pei Wenxuan. If she guessed correctly, he would not leave with the advisors. Instead, he would borrow the excuse of taking revenge for her and enforcing the will of the people to join forces with the Empress, assist Li Xin in ascension, and fight to the death against the remnants of Pei Wenxuan’s faction.

...

She had anticipated this possibility from the moment she took Su Rongqing in, but she couldn’t help feeling a bit regretful when it actually happened.

[houseofbrat]

I guess it must have been a "quick decision!"

A spokesman for the princess said: 'We will not be sharing any further private medical information. The Princess has a right to medical privacy, as we all do.' However her spokesman confirmed: 'The Princess is now on a recovery pathway having commenced a course of preventative chemotherapy…in late February.'

The princess is now on what has been described as a 'recovery pathway' having commenced a course of chemotherapy in late February. It is for this reason that Prince William pulled out of a memorial service for his late godfather, King Constantine of Greece.

Constantine's memorial service was on 27 February 2024.

There were only 29 days in February this year.

Am I really supposed to think Kate started "preventative chemotherapy" within or less than 48 hours of the news? Apparently without a cancer counseling appointment?

Is that how they do things over at The London Clinic? Or in the UK in general?

They just call people up. Tell them they have cancer, and, oh, by the way, you're starting chemo tomorrow!

No hour long consultation with the doctors prior to treatment about what to expect throughout the course of treatment, whether it is virtual or in person appointment? No opportunity to ask questions about the drugs being used or drug options? No opportunity ask about preparation for the drug infusions and post procedure guidelines? No opportunity to consider if you really want to do "preventative chemotherapy" after having these discussions with medical professionals? REALLY?!

Seriously???

This is just another reason why Dr. Jonathan Reiner said Kate's statement didn't "make a lot of medical sense."

[trexalicious]

A legend in her own mind...🤣

[ixtaek]

Back in the days of dial-up, I distinctly remember someone claiming that Link from OoT was a prince based upon information from a hidden Gossip Stone. The stone claimed that the Queen had been attacked by the Gerudo and with the last of her strength left her infant son in the care of the Deku Tree. I fully believed this as a kid.

So yeah. Time is actually a prince.

[blasphemousclaw]

It is time for the crossover question. So first (and kinda most important) how do you think Ornstein from Dark Souls would react to Radahn’s armor. They both have lion themed armors after all. And second how well the royal families of Dark Souls and Elden Ring would get along ?

ok I’m sooooo sorry but the most I’ve played of dark souls was when I started the game last summer determined to go in completely blind and I ended up fighting and dying to skeletons for like an hour and my reward for finally making it through was a sword I couldn’t even use then I finally broke down and googled a guide and it was like you shouldn’t be touching those skeletons until you’re like level 40 or something and I was like ok so there’s something wrong with me. then I did the first area but I had to stop playing because I went to grad school

anyway basically my knowledge of dark souls lore begins and ends with the opening cutscene so I’m appealing to my followers on this one… please leave some comments or reblogs!

I can tell you how radahn would react to ornstein’s armor though I feel like he’d simultaneously be like wtf that looks sick as hell are you also part of the godfrey fanclub but he’d also be kind of threatened because he needs to be the most specialest godfrey fan in the world and also this guy is even stealing his signature flaming red mane like huh???

[phoenix-king-ozai]

What’s your opinion on low, and lee the two older women see to be an advisor do you think they’re related to the royal family or are they just rich Noble women? In the fire nation. I had a theory that they were actually azulons and twin sisters. But that’s just a theory. What is your opinion?

I always headcanon Li and Lo to be Sozin's twin non-bending daughters and Azulon's older identical twin sisters since 2020. It would explain them having two portraits at the Royal Family Vacation Resort at Ember Island outside of being imperial concubines.

[nostalgia-tblr]

Woooo, I just wrote 200 words of the Sifki Sequel Fic! \o/