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#I'm gonna leave this open for a week so it reaches more ppl đ#i feel like we don't have a lot of season-by-season discourse so I'm curious#well aside from 5. but you know.#also me shading s5 isn't even shading pyka. that's cool do whatever you want. i just think the pacing is terrible + it was an entire mess#regardless of ship choices#anyway enough rambling#warehouse 13#wh13#w13#bering & wells#poll#polls#she speaks!
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This is technically in response/as an addition to a post on the supposed âdouble standardâ in the fandom between Zuko and Jet as Kataraâs love interests, but itâs been so long since it was posted and I figured the OP would be entirely uninterested in my word vomit, especially after like one and half yearsâso, separate post. I added a link for those interested. There's a cut because this got quite long lmao.
In short, the post supposes the argument that though Jet wouldâve made Katara kill people (something Zuko very much Did Not Do, no matter what you think about The Southern Raiders), he cleaned up his act after this. Zuko, on the other hand, did lots of Really Bad Things to Katara & Co. with far more frequency than Jet did and got redeemed after a multitude of episodes doing Various Things Moste Evile. To then slap Jet with The Toxic Ex-label and see Zuko as the âhealthierâ and âbetterâ option creates a Double Standard(âą) within the fandom, which is supposedly bad and not an arguably incorrect reading.Â
But the differences in fandom perception between Jet and Zuko as Love Interests for Katara (one of which canonically, and the other potentially and apparently talked about in the writerâs room) are easily explained, as can the Supposed Double Standardâjust by thinking about it from Kataraâs viewpoint, or even the audienceâs. Because, well, the worst things Jet âalmostâ ended up doing didnât happen because of outside interference only.Â
Thatâs the important bit here. He 100% wouldâve drowned an entire village just to get rid of a handful of Fire Nation soldiers, had Sokka not managed to evacuate everybody. He 100% wouldâve grievously injured two people who, as far as Jet and everybody else were aware, were refugees who might not even be firebenders â considering nobody else saw Iroh heat up his tea, he couldâve been wrong â in an attempt to prove his own hunch. Had the guards not been there, had Zuko not been able to fight back with swords, Jet wouldâve genuinely attempted to wound them for as much as a puff of smoke. And Jet consistently involves bystanders (innocent or not) in his desperate quest to harm and defeat the Fire Nation: the Gaang (and particularly Katara, through explicitly manipulative means) and the villagers in Jet; Zuko, Iroh, and the people in the teashop in City of Walls and Secrets. Additionally, we donât see more violence from him because heâs not a main character like Zuko isâthough itâs implied that Jet beats up villagers who are supposedly in cahoots with the Fire Nation often, only agreeing to turn over a new leaf when he, Smellerbee, and Longshot decide to move to Ba Sing Se.Â
Zuko explicitly and frequently doesnât harm people: that, or it isnât important to the plot. He doesnât burn down the village on Kyoshi, he literally only manages to lightly singe it. He threatens people with violence frequently but never actually goes in for the kill. Iâd argue that the most explicitly violent thing he does in Book 1 is breaking Aang out of the Pouhai Strongholdâfor his own ends obviously, but if itâs spelled like treason and sounds like treason, itâs probably treason. When he thinks of robbing the pregnant couple while heâs on the run, he stops himself of his own volition; when he considers using Appa to catch Aang (this was a point made against Zuko in the post), heâs unaware of what Appaâs been through prior to that point and sees him as no more than an animal used for travel, much like the ostrich horse he stole earlier in the season.Â
Zukoâs schtick throughout Book 1 and 2 is that he doesnât want to think of the consequences of his actions. His plans are never fully complete. He doesnât think of how heâs going to get a chained, notoriously slippery little eel of an Avatar to the Fire Nation, and he doesnât think about what would happen to twelve-year-old Aang after they got thereâwhich is horrible of him, but it also shows an odd, ignorant kind of innocence that youâd associate with a kid whoâs got a hard time telling right from wrong. Like, I love Zuko dearly, adore him even, but kiddo doesnât think ahead until the Book 2 finale and even thatâs debatable. Heâll eventually start thinking ahead a little bit but for the most part, he doesnât. Not saying that takes away responsibility, because it absolutely doesnât, but it is telling of Zukoâs character: heâs an âact first, think laterâ-kind of guy, all âfuck around; find out; maybe successâ. His sole goal throughout Book 1 and 2 is going home, without even thinking on how to get there beyond like, Avatar in my custody => back in Fire Nation with Avatar => dad loves me again. And he says that his only intention is to go home too, in Ep 2 of Book 1:
Aang: If I go with you, [He holds his staff in front of him as an offer, making sure Zuko understands that he does not wish to continue fighting.] will you promise to leave everyone alone? [The camera cuts to a side-view of the area, Zuko's men still surrounding him, spears poised. After a brief moment of hesitation, Zuko erects himself and nods in agreement. Aang is apprehended by Zuko's men, who take his staff . . . ] Zuko: [Boarding the ship up the walkway. Determined.] Head a course for the Fire Nation. I'm going home.
(Added emphasis for my point)
Zuko is not the Big Bad. Heâs not The Largest Threat. He never is. In Book 1 itâs Zhao, in Book 2 itâs Azula, and in Book 3 itâs Ozai. Zuko is a consistent threat, yes, but not a particularly large one no matter how good of a fighter he is. Because heâs presented to us as a disastrously hurt and traumatised little brat who we, the audience, are supposed to feel sorry for, and slowly grow fond of. Because we learn in The Storm that the notion of âcaring for others is weakâ has literally been branded into him. Because he keeps getting back up to fight, but consistently holds back. We are shown that he knows, on some level, that what heâs doing is wrong: the text suggests that Zuko is actively suppressing his morals. And by the time Zuko hires an assassin to ensure the Avatar is dead, we know that Zuko is incredibly unhappy with his choice(s) and is desperate to be safe; that heâs uncomfortable but wants to be comfortable; that heâs incorrect about the source of his fear while heâs back in the palace. The audience is shown this explicitly.Â
By contrast, weâre shown that Jet is fully aware that those villagers will die. Heâs fully aware that, if he manages to prove the two refugees are firebenders, theyâll be arrested and probably mutilated (if the hand-crushing is any indication). I love Jet and his character, but heâs supposed to be the example of poisoning yourself with your hatred, anger, and hurt. Heâs revenge that goes too far, because he doesnât allow himself closure. He knows the consequences and isnât shown to care for them, as long as his goal is furthered.
And there is the small, but significant, difference between the two characters: Zuko initially just wants to capture the Avatar, is purposefully remaining unaware of what will happen when he does so, and is clearly shown to change, while Jet just wants to punish firebenders and is very aware of what will be necessary for him to do so, with a handful of lines of how he âstopped being like thatâ. And honestly, Jet is far more mature than Zuko is for quite some time, regarding the violence of warâbasically as mature as Zuko eventually becomes at the tail-end of his redemption arc. But Zukoâs maturity is at that point healthier, because he doesnât want to genuinely do harm.Â
In regards to their separate relationships with Katara, thereâs these fantastic points that @sokkastyles made in reply to the post:
The fact that Zuko actually did change and Katara actually forgave him makes ALL the difference. [ . . . ] The thing about Jet is how manipulative he was with Katara. He not only almost made her kill innocents, but he lied to her about the man he attacked having a knife when he was called out, so that Katara would see her as righteous. Someone who is willing to lie in order to make themselves seem good and someone who says they are going to change but then does the same things doesnât have a good track record, and thatâs a more troubling relationship dynamic than someone who acts as an upfront enemy but then sincerely changes.
And:Â
I do think it makes sense to focus on manipulation being worse than being a cartoon villain when we're talking about personal relationships. I think many people can relate to having someone like Jet in their lives who seems nice but who lies and manipulates to justify their own bad behavior despite repeatedly claiming that they will change. Not that many people will experience being tied to a tree by someone who wants you to tell them where the Avatar is, and it is completely reasonable for people to be more forgivable of things Zuko did as a villain than things Jet did to Katara when he claimed to be a friend.
I actually donât have anything to add to this, lol. Itâs succinct and well-worded.
Lastly, in addition the relatability and the relationships being different (the manipulative, emotionally hurt, and self-proclaimed anti-hero versus the initially childish, explicitly confused and desperate cartoon villain, plus the girl they hurt horribly), thereâs also the problem of Jet not being a main character. Jet is a relatively well-written side character, whilst Zuko is very quickly established as a main-ish character with his own POV (as the writers decided during the conceptualisation that heâd be joining Team Avatar eventually). Zukoâs troubling, self-destructive nature that has been forced upon him and his Tragic Childhood is shown in high definition. The audience is supposed to eventually be okay with Zuko and hopefully like him, slowly adding puzzle pieces to complete the picture of a horrific earlier youth and treatment by nearly everybody he knows except Iroh. Something like this isnât necessary with Jet, not just because he was already incredibly likeable and understandable from his introduction and onwards, but also because heâs neither a villain nor a main character.Â
Thereâs multiple reasons as to why Zuko is often seen as the âbetterâ option, just like there are multiple reasons why Jet and Zuko are compared so frequentlyâtheyâre both traumatised teenage boys who ârebelâ to get some semblance of control back, but we see Zuko change into a kid anyone would be a little bit proud and fond of and that doesnât happen with Jet. Double standard or not, Zuko and Jet are different characters who the writers also treated very differently, on purpose. It makes sense to me that the audience would think Zutara is the âless badâ or far better option. We know far more about Zuko than we know about Jet; and Jetâs redemption arc, if we can even call it that, halts permanently when Zukoâs is reaching the height it for him to go into a freefall, ultimately culminating in a genuine redemption. We, the audience, know this. So does Katara.
#atla meta#zutara meta#not tagging this j*t*ra bc its a bit negative and i do not want to infringe on anyone's tag lmao#but i will tag it#jetara critical#just to be safe#jet atla#prince zuko#katara#zutara#the thing about both these ships is that katara can be put down as making an active choice in the narrative#though it wants to punish her for it#she is Wrong. he is Bad Guy. here's Better Guy go have babies#regardless. i feel like post-redemption zuko would be easier for her to choose--because she saw the proof of his change
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"Thistle is 15" "Thistle is 1000 years old" "Thistle is a child" "Thistle was 40/60/80/100 at the point where he" shut up shut up shut up elves don't mature the exact same as humans do and he has no confirmed canon human age plus people can be immature at literally any age especially after being forced to shoulder insane responsibilities from a young age just let people do what they want. We're not doing this to the Dungeon Meshi fandom ffs.
#what is this post about? thistle fans will know#(I say we're not doing this delusionally bc it's already happening)#I don't even ship him with Laios (except for jokes) or Delgal but I don't care I have better things to worry about#he can be 15 he can be 16 or 18 or 25 he's still clearly immature regardless of age#because he got a massive responsibility suddenly thrusted upon him and had no one to turn to for help. I promise this would fuck up anyone.#idc what your opinion is of shipping him just be honest about your actual reasons and don't pretend he's a little kid to prove a point.#it's demeaning to his character to pretend he had no choice or responsibility in his actions. in all the 1000 years he kept doing it.#if he had no choice then mithrun and marcille didn't either. but y'all don't wanna open that can of worms do you.
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sometimes when I see killermare (usually fanon) i have to remind myself that itâs fictional and interpretations and blah blah blah
#houndshowlings#killermare neg#ship neg#maybe itâs because of my own experiences with people like nightmare.#nightmare doesnât even see killer as a person.#they can never be anything resembling healthy.#not together#they could never make me like you Killermare#this ship makes absolutely zero sense to me.#i can never see killer in love with him.#not genuinely.#not stage 2 killer.#heâd automatically assume itâs manipulation & nm wants something from him.#regardless of if nms feelings are âgenuineâ or not.#and he wouldnât trust that nm doesnât want something.#at most heâd play along either bc he thinks he has no choice & this is what the player wants#or because itâs beneficial. even if only to stay alive.#bc nm is the type of bitch to strangle killer unconscious if he doesnât smile genuinely enough when he sees nm.#stage 1 is possibly a lil different.
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oh! theres actually something thats been going around on bsd twitter that rimbaud and verlaine were, in a way, a generation of soukoku themselves? unofficially? and i think it makes sense! theres also those little parallels between rimbaud and dazai believing in verlaine and chuuyas humanity....the meta sense where one has a lighter hair color and the other dark....etc etc..i really wished we could've seen rimbaud and verlaine more as a duo, and what kind of dynamic they have back then.
Oh yeah thereâs definitely parallels! Whatâs neat though is that both Dazai and Chuuya have commonalities with both Rimbaud and Verlaine.
Dazai - Rimbaud: dark hair, polite, logical and detached except with specific people who they intensely care for, grows darker from extended time spent in the dark, thinks the world of their respective partnerships and always see their partner as human
Dazai - Verlaine: nihilistic worldview, think they should not have been born, feel inherently different and separate from humanity, feel like a cursed/unholy existence and think negatively of themselves (which unfortunately enables them to be worse), decide to make their problems everyone elseâs problems
Chuuya - Rimbaud: follow the commands of their organizations yet have more personally driven motivations, enjoy having a trusted other at their side, assert the importance of living - a refusal of their partnerâs brand of defeated nihilism, see Verlaine as just like a human even though heâs a clone and empathize with him
Chuuya - Verlaine: lighter hair, same ability, similar appearance, similar backstory, never stops fighting, destructive with the wish to burn everything down (though Chuuya fights this), cocky and flaunts their strength (the pear scene with N) but this strength also makes them feel outcasted, deeply deeply lonely
These are just off the top of my head so Iâm sure thereâs more if you really go through the text (and perhaps I also misspoke on some of these), but thereâs a lot there already. It seems pretty deliberate, from an authorâs standpoint.
The thing that Rimbaud and Verlaine didnât have was that mutual unshakeable trust that makes Soukoku so powerful. Rimbaud trusted Verlaine, but Verlaine was resentful, and that destroyed them. And thatâs kind of why Iâd like to see at least one of their missions together - because I bet you that would show. What would that look like? Both occupying similar positions? Lack of communication? One of them deviates without warning but âitâs fine because it all worked outâ? Really neat to think about.
#oh also they are gay and in love#<-joking but also not#Iâm just saying. why have the two authors who were in an irl toxic relationship that is absolutely the inspiration for their partnership#falling apart due to a betrayal#foil your new partnership that is being established in that same book with numerous ship tease moments later on.#regardless of your interpretation on this it is certainly a choice.#thanks for the ask!#bsd#bsd dazai#bsd chuuya#soukoku#skk#bsd rimbaud#bsd verlaine#rimlaine#storyrambles
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"DNI if you support proship."
Fam, I don't think you know what that word means. đ
#say it with me: proship is a fandom specific term for being against censorship and harassment. 'pro' = 'in favour of/tolerant of' all ships!#regardless of personal taste!#it doesn't mean 'problematic ship' istg. how do these people define 'pro-choice' then?#make it make sense#but anyways yep... on today's episode of 'an anti interacted with my posts despite having me on their dni'...#antis#proship#censorship
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#[ dash commentary ]#mobile tbd.#hella agree#even tho Iâm alone with mine rn#someday I will have a ship pardner to spoil#with the years of hcs and art and music Iâve gathered and made for them#as well as musing to write them being permanently Alive#and .. hopefully not being a second/forgotten choice bc thatâs where I always end up lol#whether I find someone or not tho Iâm ready đ€#bc I will create for them regardless đ„°đ
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I randomly stumbled across a Fox/Cami post on Instagram and was very curious but then it ended up being Fonnie and now I'm even more curious about what the idea was.
#tales of a very sad shipper#like. why would bonnie dress as cami to kiss fox#she seems like a weird choice for him idk#I mean I guess foxami could be an interesting ship? since cami has something to do with the shadows and fox hates his shadow#I'd have to think about it more#but regardless. odd premise for some fonnie
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if reading the queering the map post where a Palestinian man is talking about his lover who he wishes he couldâve said I love you to before he died and ending the message with to youssef I will kiss you in heaven doesnât break you and convince you that Palestinians are the real victims idk what will
#as a queer Muslim that hurts me in a place i literally cannot describe#itâs already so hard to find someone that sees you and loves you regardless and to be ripped away from them by something you had no choice#- in is just so so heartbreaking#free Palestine now and always#and if youâre the kind of yt queer who withholds support for Palestine js bc theyâre âhomophobicâ i hope you never rest easy#who tf cares?? itâs a goddamn genocide/most places are homophobic anyways/your ally ship is fake if itâs only in exchange for something#from the river to the sea palestine will be free#giz rants
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You know, most "fans" of Penelope usually aren't fans of Odysseus in solidarity with her. Have fun with your toxic unfaithful ship I guess. â
ANON!!! NO!!! ANON! YOU'RE TRYING TO GIRLBOSS HER AND NOT WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT PENELOPE WANTS! ANON! ANON! PENELOPE WANTS ODYSSEUS BACK IN HER ARMS!!! SHE MISSES AND LOVES HIM!!! ANON! YOU'RE ACTING LIKE ODYSSEUS HAD ANY CHOICE WITH THE GODDESSES!!! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT WEEP WHILE WITH THE GODDESSES! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT THINK OF PENELOPE EVERY DAY!!! ANON!!! EVEN THEN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE EVEN HAD A CHOICE IN THE FIRST PLACE, PENELOPE CAN MAKE HER OWN CHOICES!!! AND HER CHOICE IS ODYSSEUS!!! ALWAYS WILL BE!!! JUST AS SHE IS HIS CHOICE ALWAYS!!! ANON! NO! THEY ARE LIKEMINDED AND BASICALLY SOULMATES!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS! ANON!!!
#:P#You give bad vibes anyways Anon#absolutely rancid#penelope of ithaca#penelope#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#odyssey#epic the musical#odypen#ask#anon#the odyssey#tagamemnon#greek mythology#yeah. people can see this dumb meme
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#feelin feral about my current fave ship send help#that's it that's the post#'i always wondered if you felt left out so i got you something to help'#'you saw me at my darkest moment and you only asked to join me'#'I gave you the key to my house because you said you never really had a home and I wanted you to have one'#'Even though the house has changed to something grander you've still got the key. It's yours too'#'I see your thorns your claws and I choose to love you regardless'#'you made a hard choice that made people angry. hurt people. and in your place I would have done the same'
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Danny:
Pariah Dark:
Fright Knight:
Danny: Look, I can explain-
Pariah Dark places a hand on Danny's shoulder, crouching down to his level (or as much as he can anyway) and giving the boy the proudest, most loving look he is able. "Son. I am so proud of you."
"Hah?" Danny asked, intelligently.
Fright Knight nodded. "I am as well." He even went as far as wiping an imaginary-no wait that's an actual tear. "It is just- It is so beautiful to see my nephew following in our footsteps." He sniffed, taking a handkerchief from... Somewhere, to further dab at his eyes.
"Hah??" Danny, once more, said intelligently.
"It is alright son." Pariah Dark continued, giving his shoulder a reassuring squeeze. "You did extremely well. Never let another say you did not. I am sure Time would be most pleased as well."
"What the fu-" Danny began.
"Language." Came the instant reply from them both as Fright Knight casually bisected an alien.
"Funny cheese puffs are you guys talking about??" Danny very shamelessly changed his sentence and went with.
"You started a war-"
"And cultivated fear."
"-Were you unaware?"
Danny blinked. Once. Then twice.
"Nuh uh." He said maturely. "I didn't do shii-" Faced with the glares of two angry parental figures, he very carefully chose his next words. "Ship. I'm innocent."
"He's even denying responsibility." Fright Knight dabbed away a few more tears and sniffed. "Truly, he reminds me of when you were younger my king."
"Haha!" Pariah Dark laughed, standing up and dusting himself off. "Truly! A prince after my own core!" Pariah patted Danny on the head, ruffling his hair. "Yes, my little 'ling is as innocent as he appears." Pariah winked knowingly.
Danny has some choice words for who let him know how to do that.
"Now..." War rubbed his chin as he looked out over the amount of carnage taking place in the city below from the fight between the aliens and the League of Justice. "Fear, do you think they would oppose to us joining?"
"That would depend on which side we fight for." Fear inclined his head, kicking a corpse off the side of the building they stood on. "Though I would rather not have this planet destroyed as we have an arrangement later this week."
"Ah, with Kents, yes?" War chuckled, cracking his knuckles. "Up for a wager, Fear?"
"What kind?"
"Least kills has to attend with no food."
"Hey wait a minute-" Danny tried to interject.
"This is not within my favor." Fear said calmly. "But I shall take you up on this offer regardless, my king."
And just like that, they were off.
Danny stood there for a moment, questioning if he should really step in and try to stop them. What would the Justice League say when the Ancients of War and Fear join in on a totally out of the blue invasion that Danny totally didn't have a hand in. How would the GIW react to this?
Then Danny thought. 'Wait, I have nothing to do with this.' And then decided this... Isn't his problem.
Then went back to sleep.
#dpxdc#dc x dp#dp x dc#dcxdp#dp x dc crossover#dc x dp crossover#Hi yes hello#Me again#No idea what I'm doing with this one#But then again that's like 90% of my stuff#In the BG this has Farmer Pariah Dark#Danny is Pariah and Clockwork's kid#And Fright Knight's nephew which makes Fright his uncle#Danny accidentally caused a war that he takes no responsibility for#War and Fear are so proud of him for that#The rest of the world just thinks âAw shit we getting randomly invaded again.â#Okay I'll shut up now
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i have all sorts of criticisms for 911 as a show overall, for the 8x06 bucktommy storyline specifically, and for tim minear as a writer and showrunner. all valid criticisms and things I'm allowed to do as a queer viewer, because it relates to the writing choices, regardless whether they are influenced by external factors such as actor availability, budgets, or network demands and restrictions.
but you won't see me turning on oliver stark like a fucking rabid delusional buddie shipper.
using my logic and basic knowledge about the world of television, i can't put any blame on him for this shitfest. you won't see me coming up with ridiculous theories that he hates lou (#1 buddie talking point since the beginning) or that he got tim to write the episode this way (he's just a bloody actor ffs), that he hasn't done enough to champion the ship (you want him to be a bucktommy warrior?), because guess what?
say he promoted the relationship on his personal instagram, say he hyped it up more in interviews, say he interacted with shippers online or showcased more bucktommy fanworks... and the pair broke up in 8x06? because he doesn't write the show? you could then argue oliver engaged in queerbaiting, because the show did not deliver the queer content he promoted.
and isn't that what he was accused of anyway, before he deleted his twitter? doesn't it make sense that he might want to be careful about this?
and given the harassment he's had to endure from buddie shippers, i find it perfectly acceptable to answer buddie questions diplomatically because we know what those people are fucking capable of. it makes sense to me that he doesn't want to anger them.
at the end of the day, i'm not defending him. i've said before i'm deeply disappointed with his comments in the TVline interview and the way he doubled down in that instagram post. he has lost my respect and i no longer think he's a good ally to bisexual people specifically, because when you are playing a bisexual character, you have the bare minimum obligation to listen when real bisexual people are telling you that you fucked up. yes, i would like to see him acknowledge his wrongdoing and show that he understands the issue and why the things he said were biphobic. no matter how badly he fucked up, he should be allowed to reflect and make amends... because he's a human being and that's what the weewoo show is about. redemption arcs and second chances all around, folks.
but - he's literally just an actor and a celebrity. i expect nothing. i'm not holding out hope. i spare him no mind. i don't hate him and i'm not angry with him because i never idolised him. because i don't know him beyond the persona he shows the world. no one does. we can infer things based on what we see and hear, but there's really no way to know how much of that is his authentic self.
anyway. just my two cents đ«¶
#oliver stark#my goal at all times is to never act like a buddie#peace and love#bucktommy#911 abc#send post#911 discourse
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Decision (Sauron x fem!Elf!reader)
-> in which you find out why Halbrand has been distant despite the intimacy you shared in NĂșmenor, and now itâs your turn to decide whether or not to follow him on the path ahead
Warning: angst, implied smut, reader isnât plain evil but sheâs not saying no to touching Sauron the darkness either
Note: sequel to Choice but what happens there is explained here too
If you still had doubts before, now youâre absolutely certain. Halbrand has been avoiding you on purpose ever since youâve reached Eregion and his lance wound has been healed.
Your pride would like you to pretend that it doesnât hurt, but you cannot deny the pang in your chest each time you catch his eye only for him to look away. Or when, on the rare occasion that you do speak these days, he finds a way to cut the conversation short. But what hurts the most is that you are unable to discern the reason why.
Sometimes, you remember the night of passion you had shared in NĂșmenor, trying to recall if there had been any misinterpretation on your part. You had met him in the smithy after he had refused Galadrielâs request to follow you to Middle-Earth and claim the title she believed was his as king of the Southlanders. You had told him his past deeds were of no consequence to you, that you believed he was worthy of leading regardless of whether or not it was his birthright. He had asked you, repeatedly, whether you were certain you could disregard his past as he had made his desire for you known.
And you had returned it. Youâd had your fill of one another right there, on a table, utterly unable to restrain yourselves until you might have reached a more appropriate place for such activities. To say it was pleasurable would be an understatement. What Halbrand lacked in familiarity of your body, he made up in enthusiasm for discovering it, and becoming acquainted with his had been equally delightful for you. There had been no grand declaration of love, no spoken promisesâbut there had been unmistakable sentiment shared between you, during the deed as well as after. You had gently aided one another in redressing yourselves, and parted with a lingering kiss and a cheeky grin from him whose memory still makes your heart flutter.
The following morning, you had sailed for Middle-Earth. Whether because of you or not, Halbrand had decided to make the journey after all, and that was all that mattered. And while your accommodations on the ship hardly allowed for privacy, you sought each other out more often than before, and spoke more freely. Although you shared few kisses, only in brief moments when you were away from prying eyes, and his past still remained much of a mystery to you, you figured it was simply not the right time or place for anything further.
The battlefield in the Southlands was even less ideal. The chaos unfolded quickly, a great eruption separated you, and you were only reunited with Halbrand at the survivorsâ camp, where youâd found him wounded half to death by an enemy lance.
You had kissed him, thenâwhen you were left alone in his tent, awaiting Galadriel to bring the horses that would take the three of you to Eregion, where his wound may be mended. You had found yourself pressing your lips to his with a different kind of urgency than before, struck by such powerful relief tears slipped from your eyes and fell onto his cheek as you pulled away.
âI thought you were dead,â you had whispered in anguish.
âIâve been worse,â he had quipped, as if it were some kind of game. But this time, you had no witty comeback in return.
âNo, Halbrand, I...â youâd said gravely, caressing his sweat-slicked cheek. âI realized, if that were the case... there were things I should have said to youââ
âPlease,â heâd cut you off then, gently but decidedly pulling your hand away from his face. âNot yet.â
You had frowned, more than a little hurt by his dismissal, but didnât insist. He was in a great deal of pain, and too exhausted to handle such a heavy conversation. You could understand that.
But once his wound had been healed, he only seemed less inclined to speak with you. In Eregion, there had been many occasions when he might have sought you out, visited your chamber. You could have, of course, visited his, but the few and brief interactions between you didnât exactly encourage you to do so. He had begun to work with Celebrimbor, and whatever little time remained after their long hours together, he hardly ever chose to spend with you. You could tell he was in his element by Celebrimborâs side, his eyes brightening beautifully with each new idea and small progress, yet a shadow passed over them when they met yours from across the forge room.
A week passed like this, then twoïżœïżœïżœand you were beginning to question whether the thread of fate youâd once felt connecting you to him had been only a figment of your imagination after all.
It hurts. You do your best not to feel it. You know the few matches attempted between Elves and humans ended in loss and tragedy, but not from lack of care on the part of the lovers. If that is what you and Halbrand ever were.
Perhaps it is your pride that prevents you from confronting him yourself, or from revealing what is ailing you to anyone at all. On the few times Galadriel has attempted to broach the subject, you had insisted that there was nothing to discuss. Though with a look that told you she knew better, she had left you in peace. So, when a knock comes at the door of your chamber one late evening, you suspect it is her on the other side.
With a sigh, you go to greet her, but begin to speak even before the door is fully opened.
âGaladriel, I am quite tiredââ
The words die in your throatâfor it isnât Galadriel at your door. Itâs Halbrand.
âMight we speak?â he asks. As if it were perfectly natural. As if he has every right to be here. The first few days in Eregion, you would have been more than glad to receive him, had stared at door in anticipation of his visit, even. Now, your heart twists in your chest with rage, even as it aches at the sight of him.
âYou avoid me like the plague for days on end,â you say harshly, âand now you wish to be allowed into my personal chamber at this late hour?â
He crosses his arms, nowhere near as repentant as he should be looking. In fact, a light smirk tugs at his mouth. âSurely my boldness does not come as a surprise to you.â
âYour boldness? No,â you retort. âYour lack of honor, howeverâthat is both surprising and irritating. Not to mention disappointing. Should I continue?â
He sighs then, and uncrosses his arms to lean one hand against the doorframe, finally having the decency to look somewhat awkward as he surmises, âYou are cross with me.â
âDo I not have cause to be?â You glance down the corridor to find it empty, but still lower your voice. âYou bedded meââ
âIt was a table, as I recallââ
âAnd now you mock me.â
You go to slam the door in his face.
âThat was not myââ He hastily grabs the door, holding it open. âAll right,â he relents, raising a hand in surrender. âAll right. Forgive me.â This time, he is perfectly serious. You contemplate locking him out either way, but in the end resolve to make that decision based on what next comes out of his mouth. âI bedded you,â he admits, taking care to lower his voice as well, âthen allowed acts of affection to pass between us, such as those between lovers. Yet my intentions went undeclared, and of late I have acted as though none of that ever happened. Indeed, I have not behaved as a... man of honor should. For that, I apologize. Truly.â
His gaze never leaves yours as he says it. There is no teasing lilt to his voice, no trace of playfulness or misdirection. If you are being honest with yourself, you believe him.
There is a part of you that still wants to give him a taste of his own medicine, turn him away at the moment he most wishes to be able to speak with you. But that would mean denying yourself the answers as well. So, with a sigh, you step out of the way in silent invitation. He gives you a slight, grateful smile as he takes it.
âI know what you did, Halbrand,â you say, shutting the door behind him once he is inside your chamber. âWhat I wish to know is why.â
âAnd I did wish to tell you,â he reassures you. âOnly...â
Itâs you who crosses your arms now, looking at him expectantly.
âIt was for your sake that I have refrained from any further... closeness between us,â he goes on, somewhat hesitant. âI felt it would be unfair to receive your sincere confession when I was yet unable to make mine.â
âAnd why were you unable, pray tell?â you ask, skeptical. âWhy is it now that you seek me out?â
When he next speaks, his voice is laced with frustration, as though it is only now seeping through after simmering for too long within him.
âBecause with each glance cast my way, you have stripped me of the patience to deny us both of what we desire any longer, despite my reasons for doing so.â He steps closer to you, looking into your eyes intently. âYou see, before I asked even more of you than what you had already granted me, I meant to prove myself to you. To show you, beyond doubt, that the purpose of my craft is not one of destruction, but of healing.â
âSpeak plainly, Halbrand,â you urge impatiently. You cannot fathom where this train of thought leads. He takes a breath as though to make a grand confession, but what he says is, vexingly, nothing you havenât heard before.
âI am not a kingââ
âI told you, I donât careââ
â...or a mortal,â he finishes.
That does work to silence you. Your brow knits, silently questioning what in the world he means by that. A grimness lurks in his eyes as he speaks, each word measured and heavy.
âI have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence. In that time, Iâve had many names.â After a pause, he adds with finality, âI am the one you call Sauron.â
You search his face for any sign that he is jesting. Lying. There is none. The silence stretches as his words sink in, and you finally understand what is happening.
Then, you do the only thing there is to do in such a predicament.
You laugh. Hand covering your mouth, belly shaking, you laugh in the face of Halbrandâs furrowed brow at your reaction.
âOh, that is... pathetic. Truly,â you say as your mirthless laughter dies down, leaving behind nothing but the burning indignation in your chest. âI might have thought you brazen or uncouth, at times, but I never once took you for a coward, Halbrand. If all you wanted was a quick tumble in the sheetsâor, to be accurate as you prefer, on a tableâand nothing more, you can simply say you wish for me to leave you alone, instead of conjuring such a ridiculous excuseââ
Heâs gone. Everything is goneâas if between blinks, you are no longer standing in your chamber, but in a different room altogether. Your mind is slow to catch up as panic grips you, eyes darting around your new surroundings. Itâs a place you know well, one that has been at the forefront of your mind of late.
You are standing in the smithy in NĂșmenor.
âI am no slave to such base urges,â Halbrand says, and you whip around, startled to find that he is suddenly beside you, drinking you in with his gaze in the very same hungered manner he had done the last time you were here. âIf I feel desire, carnal or otherwise, it is because the object of it has truly, undeniably captivated me. So do not insult the intimacy we shared in this place by assuming it held no greater meaning.â
âEnd this,â you breathe out, too shaken to process his words. âEnd this, now!â you cry out.
He clenches his jaw, displeasedâbut in the next heartbeat, you are back in your chamber.
Your hand flies to your heaving chest as if that would tame your rampant heart. Itâs as though you never left, and in truth, you suppose you didnât. Halbrand is still standing before you.
But he is not Halbrand anymore. He never was.
âYou...â you say, voice trembling as you stagger back until you bump into your writing table. The swirl of emotions within you is too great for you to even know where to begin. Your face twists in rage, even as your heart crumbles in pain. âYou lied to meââ
âLied to you? Not once,â Halbrand says in earnest, coming towards you with slow, careful steps. âI called myself a new name, that much is true, but I have had so many, given by othersâwhy should one I give myself be of any less value?â You shake your head, open your mouth, but no words come out. You are glued on the spot, leaning back against the table for support as he stops at a reasonable distance, close enough to touch if you reach out but far enough that he is not crowding you.
âI told you I had done evil,â he goes on. âI asked you, over and over, whether you would have me regardless of the past, whatever that may be...â He brings a hand to his heart as he steps ever so slightly closer. â...and you accepted me as I was. As I am.â
He wears a soft smile as he says it, as if in awe that such a thing was true. And in truth... it is. You remember exactly what you had thought at the time. You knew he had suffered through a war, that the âevilâ of which he spoke must have meant some kind of death or betrayal. But over the years, through all the battles and the horrors you had endured yourself, those sins were part of your past as well. You wanted to believe they could be forgiven, that they had not been for nothingâand so you had forgiven his.
But youâd never imagined... Youâd never suspected...
âWhy me, then?â you ask quietly. In the end, those are the only words you find within yourself.
âGaladriel only asked me to fight at her side because she convinced herself I was the true king of the Southlands. But you...â Halbrand says, and you can tell when he means to reach out and touch you, but restrains himself. âYou encouraged me to fulfill that role not because you believed it to be my birthright, but because you believed I was worthy of it, even if a lie was needed to unite the Southlanders. Because you know that what is right is not always what is considered good. Where others see black and white, you see the grey, and embrace it. There is light in you as well as darkness. Balance. That is what I seek for Middle-Earth as well. Harmony, perfection... lasting peace.â
You eye him warily. His words ring true within you, they resonate with parts of you which you rarely let show. Whether or not he means it when he says he wants peace, of one thing you are certainâhe sees you.
âWhat you are crafting with Celebrimbor,â you ask, unable to withhold the curiosity he has sparked within you. âItâs meant to accomplish that? Peace?â
âIt will,â he vows. But then his gaze shifts, uncertain. âUnless Celebrimbor learns of my identity, and refuses to proceed.â
âHe surely would,â you agree wryly. âHe would sooner let all of Elvendom abandon these shores forever than carry out the design of... one such as you.â You find yourself hesitating to call him by the name your people have given him. Somehow, despite everything, âthe abhorredâ does not easily roll off your tongue when you look at him.
âThat is why I meant to wait until the work was complete to reveal the truth to you, or to anyone else,â Halbrand confesses further. âBut perhaps this is how I regain your trustâby leaving the fate of your own people in your hands, rather than decide it myself.â
His searing gaze, his words, the truth of what he isâitâs so much to take in all at once. You turn your back towards him, leaning against the table as you shut your eyes briefly so you can think.
âYou would have me become a deceiver,â you say, staring outside your window at the lights of Eregion, âfor the good of my people?â
There is a small silence, broken only by the sound of Halbrandâs soft steps towards you.
âThe same as you once asked of me,â he reminds you. You feel how much closer he has come, enough that you feel the heat of his breath on your neck, yet you donât feel compelled to move away. âThe middle path between light and dark.â His fingers brush one of yours wrists, grazing your skin without wrapping around it. âI chose it,â he murmurs close to your ear. âWill you?â
Your gaze drifts to where he is touching you, and you remain staring as your heart rages in your chest.
The part of you that knows what is moral and good tells you to turn and run. To warn all Elves who cross your path that they have been deceived, that a great foe has been living amongst them in fair form, carrying out his plans unhindered.
But are those plans evil indeed, if they are meant to preserve the very light of the Elves? They would not even stop to consider such a question. His name alone would be too great a threat. It should, by all means, threaten you as well.
Yet his touch at your wrist does not feel threatening. Nor does his breath falling softly on the back of your neck. Youâve felt him close before in body as well as spirit, in ways that went beyond the words spoken or not between you, and you had never once sensed wrongness. Only a perfect, most fulfilling fit.
âIf I do...â you ask quietly, feeling as though your world is tilting on its axis, âwhat happens then?â
He closes the last of the distance between you, and your eyes flutter shut as you allow him to press his front to your back. You hear his smile in his voice as he murmurs in your ear, âWe end all wars.â The hand on your wrist slips downward to lace your fingers together, the other coming to rest on your waist. âWe bring balance.â His lips brush your neck, and you tilt your head to grant him better access. âWe heal Middle-Earth,â he vows as you shudder. âTogether.â
His arm is coiling around your stomach, then, aiming to pull you more tightly against himâbut you take a breath and turn around sharply to face him. There is desire in his eyes, the same kind that thrums beneath your skin. Still, you plant a hand on his chest to keep him at bay. Or to touch him. Both.
âYou deceived me,â you say firmly. Regardless of what happens next, that is a grievance you still carry.
âI know,â Halbrand admits. âAnd I intend to make it up to you. Starting now...â His gaze drifts to your lips, voice lowering to a suggestive whisper, â...if you would allow it.â
You donât think. Youâve done enough of that in your long life. It may be madness, but one thing is certainâfor once, you decide to act upon what you feel.
So, you fist your hand in his shirt and pull him into a kiss, moaning softly as he grabs your waist to press you flush against him. You feel his deep satisfaction, mingled with relief in the way he greedily tastes your mouth once more. You only now realize how subdued his kisses after your night in the smithy had been. He has held himself back from you so as not to deceive you further, confessed his identity of his own free will. That counts for something, doesnât it?
Youâd like to think so, at the very least, as you swallow the groan he makes into your mouth. He hoists you up onto your table, and it feels as though you are back in the smithy againânot within an illusion this time, but in the urgency and abandon of your embrace, in the way you wrap your legs around him and the fervent sounds of desire you pant out into each otherâs mouths.
Itâs almost the same, but everything has changed.
âThis is not an answer,â you breathe out as his lips release yours, only to trail a line of bone-melting kisses down your neck. Your words, however determined you mean for them to sound, are but a soft moan as you sink your fingers in his hair and hold him to you. âI am only... exploring my options.â
He hums, understanding but not entirely pleasedâperhaps that is why he briefly catches the sensitive skin of your neck between his teeth, drawing a whimper from you with the pleasurable sting. When he lifts his head to meet your gaze, however, he seems anything but discouraged.
âWell, since tables are a trodden path...â he says, lips ghosting over yours, âlet us explore the bed this time.â
Worrying less about what is good, and choosing what feels right, you make no protest as he carries you into that particular uncharted territory.
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I'm excited for your thoughts on the new season if/when you share them
It has legit taken me 3 days to come to terms with Act 1. Enough to be able to speak about it. Gunna apologize in advance for the wall of text, and Iâm hiding it under a break for spoiler reasons. Also prefacing with these are all just my opinions. All are free to disagree with me and RB with discussions/theories etc. just donât be a dick about it, Iâm not engaging in any discourse.
Ok. So. I have mixed feelings, and Iâm aware that this is because I donât have the whole story yet. So this is all contingent on how the rest of the season plays out.
First and foremost, Iâm⊠wildly swinging back and forth between love and disappointment for Viktorâs arc. So first the negative, and Iâll try to keep it brief because a lot of people have already expressed this and I donât need to be beating that particular dead horse.
Viktor has had his agency, his bodily autonomy, his original ideas and nearly everything that made him Viktor stripped away. Nothing so far has been his choice. And while this could have worked just fine for an original character, he wasnât. So there is a massive disconnect between what this character was/should have been. In League, it was all his choice (albeit with a healthy dose of mental illness thrown in, but still). AND it was very heavily suggested that many of the augmentations he performed werenât as extensive as he lead everyone to believe (namely the controlling/dousing of his emotions). But it appears that whatever the Hexcore did to him, itâs real. He is clearly having a difficult time accessing his emotions, and if he can feel anything, it is limited to the point of him being completely stoic. And the thing with stoic characters is that you obliterate any emotional payoff for the audience. Itâs very hard to make an audience feel an emotional connection to a characterâs story arc when they themselves donât feel anything (I have a theory about this though, but Iâll address it a little later in this post). And then there is the issue of Blitzcrank. Blitz was Viktorâs whole world, after his exile. How are they going to swing that? Like, Iâm not even asking for Blitz to be in Arcane (that would be great, but I really donât think they have time). But I stg if they take Blitz away from Viktor, make them someone elseâs invention (my suspicion is Heimer or he finds the idea in Skyâs journal)⊠Iâm sorry but no. This was Viktorâs idea, Viktorâs genius. I will genuinely be extremely upset if they take that from him too.
Then there is the whole situation with Sky. First, this girl was fridged. She was nothing but a plot device and continues to be just that. It feels hollow and forced, especially now that heâs hallucinating her as some sort of penance for what he did. (I have seen the prevalent theory that itâs the Hexcore using her image and his guilt to manipulate him, given that it âateâ her, and we have seen it âmanipulateâ him before when it punished him for trying to destroy it). But back to Skyâhe barely acknowledged that poor girl. The reason for that can be argued, whether itâs because heâs gay or because he was just so wrapped up in his one-track minded research. But regardless, there just wasnât enough setup between those two for this whole thing to have as much weight and meaning as I think itâs supposed to. Honestly to me (TO ME) it reeks of comphet. It feels like that random woman they threw at Poe Dameron to No Homo him. Iâm not even asking for Jayvik canon. But the creators were well aware of this ship, after all itâs the second most popular ship in this show and itâs been around since 2012 when Jayce was literally created for Viktor. Iâm asking for the bare minimum hereâthat itâs left open-ended as it was in League, open for interpretation.
Last negative I have is the whole Viktor Jesus thing. The first problem is I am pretty violently agnostic, and messiah narratives have never spoken to me. I donât enjoy them, they feel weak. The whole âordained by a higher powerâ thing is just⊠stale. Especially when this character originally had no higher power, he gave it to himself through his own hard work and ingenuity. Honestly, Viktorâs original arc is about as far from a Jesus allegory as you can possibly get. And I am absolutely terrified that theyâre going to end said Jesus arc the way youâd expectâwith him dying for it. Which leaves the moral of his story âdisabled man should have just accepted that he was going to die despite the fact that it was the oppression and xenophobia of Piltover that left him out to dry, without proper health care, accessibility, equality, or equity that lead to his terminal diagnosis to begin with.â Which is a very oppressor-centric narrative and we do not need another one of those.
Sorry, I know I said Iâd keep the negatives brief, and that was⊠not. My bad. But moving on!
Iâm not saying I didnât enjoy it, I did. I am working to embrace this new Viktor narrative and work it into my brain in a way that doesnât ruin the ship for me. So without further ado, the positives.
Jayce.
Jayce.
Jayce.
Iâd have to go back and time it, but it feels like he got more screen time in this first act than the entirety of the first season combined, and his character shined for it. It humanized him in ways season one never did. Heâs caring, heâs devoted, and he loved Viktor! No matter what kind of love you think it is, it proves he loved Viktor without a doubt. He carried Viktor several city blocks to the lab to save him, and then YES, he broke his promise about the Hexcore because he couldnât stand the thought of losing him!
And heâs funny! (The scene where he picks up the regular sized hammer in the fight against Renni and made that âthis is ironicâ face?? And then basically the entire interaction with Ekko? The hand me a tome thing, and then when he basically pulled this when Ekko suggested âso this is all your fault cuz you pissed off the Arcaneâ:
GOD that shit was great. Jayceâs personality just shined, and maybe itâs too much to hope, but maybe this will douse a little of the hate. Because instead of being a subtle hint at all of those things being true about him, itâs now overt. And when people lack media literacy, the hints have to be overt.
And th-the. The h. The HUG SCENE. I donât think I will ever emotionally recover from that scene. Starting with Viktor who, despite being clearly emotionallyâI dunno, vacant I guessâsounded so lost and scared when he said âwhat am I?â For me, it was whispers of that scene from The Last Unicorn: âwhat have you done to me?â And my poor sweet Jayce, who clearly hasnât left this damn lab except to go to Cassandraâs memorial. Sleeping on the desk and bleeding through his bandages because he doesnât want to spend a moment away from Viktor while he ârecovers.â And his euphoric response when he finds Viktor alive, when he realizes he hasnât lost him. And I OWE HIM AN APOLOGY, goddamn. I said in a post that âJayce will not understand.â I thought that was how Arcane was gunna start the divorce. But Jayce genuinely did not care, as long as his lover friend was alive. And just⊠Jayce being so affectionate through this entire scene. The hug obviously, but also blurting things he thought heâd never get to say to ViktorââIâm resigning from the council, my place was always here in the lab with you.â
And⊠the hug itself. I know weâre all analyzing it frame by goddamn frame, but I see exactly what everyone else seesâthere is a moment where Viktor very subtly smiles. But itâs gone in an instant, and it turns bittersweet. LOOK AT HIM.
There is something there, itâs just buried. Deep beneath the surface. It seems to say âI want this, I have wanted this for so long.â But then he realizes something, something I donât think weâre meant to understand yet. Maybe that he doesnât feel anything about it anymore, and he recognizes that this should upset him and it doesnât. Or perhaps itâs something more along the lines of âitâs too late.â Whatever it is, I think this is the exact moment he knows he has to walk away. Because he knows heâll cave to the affection, he said it himself. (Which is another thing entirely. His voice changes when he says that. Something in him is reacting to that word. Maybe heâs fighting against it, or maybe heâs fighting to get it back. But something made him almost growl that word.)
Which leads me to my final thought (for this post anyway, cuz itâs turning into a novel); Viktor is still in there. He can still feel things, I just think theyâre extremely muted by whatever the Hexcore did/continues to do to him, or he has to fight to express them. Because he also smiled at the hallucination of Sky after he âcuredâ Huck. And if he feels nothing, he wouldnât have been âjoyousâ at the thought of her being proud of him, approving of the good things heâs trying to do in her memory. He wouldnât crave that validation, that vindication from her. So Iâm hopeful that we start to see this shell crack a little, especially if those visions of Sky are the Hexcore manipulating him through guilt. It will start to erode him, no matter how stoic he has become. And literally the only thing Iâm clinging to is that Jayce will see this and try to pull him out. âHeâs still in there and I have to save him.â And that maybe itâll start to work.
#arcane#arcane season 2#arcane season two#arcane s2 spoilers#jayvik#jayce talis#arcane viktor#viktor arcane#asks#ace answers
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is anyone going to tell the kat@angers that it's not feminist activism to argue Katara's arc in LOK is fine on the grounds that "some women want to be homemakers and that's okay!!"
Like you're not helping real women that way. In fact, most antis for the cannon ship ARE women. Many are homemakers themselves.
Katara is not a real woman. She is a fictional woman written by men.
Can the sensibilities and wishes of a girl change by the time she is a adult? Yes!
But as this is a textual character who, as per the text, rejects the societal structure of her fictional world (which mirrors our own) that women are and can only ever be docile homemakers (i.e. I don't want to heal, I want to fight; I will never turn my back on people who need me; let's start a prison riot; let's engage in vigilante ecoterrorism; let's pitch an absolute fit because the boys are not pulling their fair weight in the homemaking; let's confront my mother's killer at the absolute rejection and condemnation of the male figures whom I am to respect; etc) it is perfectly reasonable to argue that this end was not a natural course for her character.
Fictional characters are not real people. This means that they do not change their mind off screen. That is not an acceptable argument. That is called a "plot hole", which is a nonsensical change made at the convenience and contrivance of the writer(s), who in this case are men exhibited to not care for women or girls all that much. It is within THEIR character to write this way.
Regardless of who, if anyone, Katara ended up with, Katara tolerating disrespect, neglect, abuse of her children, giving up all of her former aspirations to live in the shadow of men, and dying as a mere footnote in history (and being alright with it!!) is not surprising given the absolute vitriol Bryke has shown toward female fans of their "creation". It was supposed to be a "boy" show. It was always supposed to be a "boy" show. The creators of Supernatural and Game of Thrones did the same thing. ATLA just did it first.
Arguing "not all women" is not activism in the face of what is really happening in this discourse. Sending death threats to real, actual women with feelings in defense of a fake pretend woman's fake pretend autonomy is performative activism, and worse, hypocritical.
Not all women agree with you. Not all women feel represented and find the outcome of Katara's story satisfactory. If y'all care about feminism and respecting women's choices so much, lay off the real life women you're so fond of harassing. Our views and opinions, while opposing your own, don't affect you.
#i know we've all told them but yall im tired#antikataang#anti kataang#its tagged but the people who this is targeted for will see it#folks perusing the zutara tag for hate purposes#yall are weird#guess who has never set foot in the kata@ng tag#its me <3#zutara#antibryke#anti bryke#bryke critical
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