#rastim

[phoenixkaptain]

I love the relationship between Ra’s and Tim in the Red Robin run because it reads fundamentally as an unrequited crush. Between an old man who is so rich he will never spend all his wealth, a man who is considered to be charming in the same way a snake is, a man who is more powerful than the majority of other villains just on the strength of his legacy alone.

And.

A seventeen-year-old boy who has not slept in three days since the last time someone drugged him, has not showered in three weeks unless you count being thrown into a river, has not cleaned his room since he was three and his parents still payed attention to him.

And when I tell you which one has the crush on the other, that’s it, that’s the ultimate punchline, DC may never reach these peaks of comedy ever again.

[sasheneskywalker]

every (former) robin has a villain they occasionally sleep with. except they don't do it entirely for pleasurable reasons (though they are also somewhat into it) but use sex as a distraction/weapon/bargaining chip.

shortly after becoming nightwing, dick keeps running into deathstroke every few months. he tries to stop him from doing his jobs, mostly just postponing the inevitable. shamefully, dick starts to enjoy the chase and rough tumbling with someone whose skills match his own (or even surpass them). they flirt while they spar and eventually dick decides that a better way to distract slade is to let him fuck him. it earns dick more time to secure slade's targets and resolves their fights without anything broken on dick's part.

red hood and black mask constantly ruin each other's operations and attempt to kill each other. jason despises roman for being involved in stuff like human trafficking while roman thinks jason is too soft. finally, it culminates in them fucking in some abandoned warehouse. but it doesn't end there. the sex is dangerous, it often involves guns or knives and jason never knows if roman won't suddenly use this opportunity to permanently get rid of him. of course, jason uses his connection to roman to gather information. he plants bugs in his office while they fuck, he flirts with him to make roman at ease and brag about his plans, and he snoops through his apartment when roman gets called away because of an emergency. ultimately, red hood takes over the gotham criminal underworld and black mask barely escapes with his life.

there's some world ending threat and the only person to know how to stop it is ra's al ghul. all of tim's friends and family are in danger and nothing seems to be working, so he goes to make a deal with ra's. tim assumes ra's will ask him for some morally reprehensible favor to test his conviction and he knows he won't be able to agree to it. so instead he offers his body. ra's can do whatever he wants with him in exchange for helping save the world. and if the next time they need the league's help with something, tim proposes the same terms? well, it's not like he has any better ideas.

the robins enjoy it to some degree. they don't ever say "no" (would their partners even respect it if they wanted to stop?). but is it truly what they want? or are they just doing it because it seems like the easiest option?

(i'd like to include steph and damian too, but i don't know enough about their relationships with various villains. i'm open to suggestions!)

[we-ezer]

Danny is Ra’s and Tim’s child go

[do-you-ship-this-comic-ship]

propaganda:

An antagonistic relationship with mutual manipulation, grudging respect and occasional murder attempts. Hot older man trying to seduce a young sidekick to the dark side. The hilarity of Tim becoming Damian's step grandfather. I just think it's neat.

[mistress-of-vos]

My hot take (mostly a funny thought) it's that, by definition, it is a bit ridiculous to think that no one would have believed Tim that Bruce was alive.

Superman, Hal Jordan, Oliver Queen, Jason Todd have come back from the dead but 'no, Timmy, Bruce is gone for reaaaaaal!!!'

It's just so funny, everyone wanted Bruce to be GONE once and for all. Bruce is lucky Tim is too much of an omega coded child, otherwise Tim would have played along too and ran away with the money to live his best life.

(The original point of this idea it's how funny it is that Ra's is who helps Tim find Bruce. In my mind Ra's refused to live in a world where he couldn't rub on at least one of Tim's parents face that he, the great Ra's al Ghul, is fucking Timothy.

Bruce: ... Why did you help Tim bring me back?

Ra's: Let's just say that "I can help you bring your father back" it's an underrated seduction technique

(Even more of a side note: Under this perspective, Ra's got himself a girl boy with daddy issues??? And his way of flirting was helping to bring back that not-so-cool dad??? This is TikTok material))

[kit04kat]

Does anyone have any fic recs where Tim is raising both timkon clone baby and rastim clone baby? With lots of funny moments pls and thank you 🙏

[blooms-in-april]

Sometimes the toxic ships are just more fun.

If I wanted to read about a healthy wholesome safe and sane relationship, I'd read a sex ed manual. Sometimes you just want to watch the world burn.

[necrotic-nephilim]

For the ask game: AU where during Tim's search for Bruce, Ra's agrees to help him on one condition: Tim will sleep with him. (It's probably some kind of scheme on Ra's part.) How their dynamic would change with more overt sexual undertone underlying their interactions...

for the ask game!

UGH i love this type of thing so much. in my heart, this is canon. to me. Ra'sTim my fucked up beloveds you two are so terrible for each other.

so what i think is fun and often misunderstood in fanon is that Tim didn't go to Ra's, Ra's went to Tim. so it's even more fun if Ra's goes to Tim, and has that condition he holds over Tim's head. offering all of Ra's' resources, full access to his computers, someone just genuinely believing Tim and working with him. i think, a lot of it would be a mind game for Ra's. sure he wants to fuck Tim, but more than that, he wants to see Tim's reaction. he expects an immediate no, in the way Tim is so hesitant to work with Ra's in the first place. he's pushing Tim's buttons and basically treating Tim like a rat in a maze. so when Tim says yes, and doesn't seem to hesitate too much. *that's* intriguing. because in a perfect world for Ra's, Tim says yes because of a genuine returned attraction. but Ra's isn't quite sure if that's the reason. it could just be because of Tim's search for Bruce. so Ra's would really push it, see how far he could take the sex. it's simple sex first, but Ra's gets more and more interesting each time. slowly working in kinks just to see where Tim draws the line in the sand, and if Ra's can convince Tim to cross that line.

on Tim's side, i think it's fun if you play with Tim being so deep in the closet he doesn't even realize he's bisexual, yet. so to him, sex with Ra's doesn't *really* count as sex. he knows Ra's is weirdly obsessed with him, and Tim wants to play that to his advantage. he likes the power that obsession gives him, within the League. so, if it takes some sex to satiate Ra's, Tim mentally views it as like, a training session. no worse than those unpleasant endurance trainings Bruce used to make them all do. and i like the accidental catch-22 of it. where at first, the sex does very little for Tim. but the more Ra's gets creative and kinky about it, the more Tim *actually* starts to enjoy it. Tim's bisexual crisis except it's over a centuries-old man showing him the joys of sadomasochism in an agreement that was supposed to be totally normal for Tim bc he just gets himself into these situations.

i think one of the biggest changes would be Tim's sheer amount of power and immunity in the League would be even higher. *everyone* can tell Ra's is fucking Tim, he's not really trying to hide it with the way he looks at Tim and touches him in front of everyone. Tim tries to stay clinical and professional, but you can only look so respected working when Ra's is basically stroking your chest as you work. there are whispers, people keep tellin Ra's not to trust this random son of the Bat, but no one will say it to Tim's face. it'd give Tim more power over Ra's' operation outside of the Bruce search. sure, Tim can't change the nature of the League of Assassins, but he can. tip the scales a bit. pull Ra's back from being lethal in certain situations, convince Ra's not to engage in other places. Tim is careful not to overextend this power so he doesn't lose it, but everyone else sees just how much power Tim has. he even start working on taking people out from under Ra's, when Tim goes nuclear and leaves. like how Tim basically steals Prudence, he steals some other younger Assassins he thinks he can convince to come to his side. because he's with Ra's, he starts to command a level of respect so it's not a difficult thing to do. sure, Tim's just the kid keeping Ra's' bed warm. but also, he's the kid *Ra's* deemed worthy enough to be involved with, so it's a double-edged sword of both disgust and respect held for Tim.

it's so funny to me if Tim starts to catch feelings. Ra's of course has feelings, but Tim has never noticed his feelings for a man before so he's fucking panicking internally. and worse, he's not doing a good job of hiding it. Ra's is perceptive and has centuries of experience on Tim. so he can tell. he sees the look on Tim's face when Ra's does a genuine romantic gesture with no strings attached. and that's when Ra's really leans into it. the sex is one thing, but now it's courting. gifts, pet names, kisses, praise, the whole nine yards. and Tim doesn't outwardly deny any of it because he just... doesn't know what to do with it. he could handle stupidly good sex. but this?? this is new territory. he's constantly reminding himself Ra's isn't a good person. which isn't hard to do but still, Tim's just a little torn internally. also. i think Ra's would at least try to kill Captain Boomerang, if not outright succeed, as a courting present for Tim. and Tim is *horrified*, but then again, in canon, he almost personally killed Boomerang. so maybe. there's something nice about having Boomerang dead, while escaping culpability. Ra's thinks his corruption crusade is working on Tim and is absolutely gloating about it. they even go on a proper date.

but, in the end, Tim still backstab Ra's. i think Ra's would still try to go for control of WI, but would be convinced Tim would be totally okay with it and offers to share control with Tim. that's how Tim betrays him, he's allowed to handle so much of the paperwork, Ra's has no idea until it all goes through that he actually has no control. it's The betrayal. because Tim will always betray his love for what he thinks is the right thing to do. the infamous scene, where Ra's kicks Tim out of a window would go a lot differently. instead of a dramatic fight, it's deeply wounded betrayal. in canon Ra's always knew Tim was never in his pocket, but in this AU, he was naive enough to fall for it. and he's angry. he's angry at Tim, angry at himself. i think he'd straight up try to kidnap Tim. less "kick Tim out a window" and more "intimately hold a knife to Tim's throat" vibes. they part ways, but there's still. something lingering. the bridge isn't fully burned and Ra's is still going to seek out Tim when he needs help, and Tim will seek out Ra's. they'll never trust each other again. but they also can't seem to stop loving each other. Tim hides it from the Batfamily and Ra's never gives Tim that level of control in the League again but. the "i didn't know who else to got to." moments are inevitable and there are whispers in the villain community about how you better be careful around Red Robin because if you're not, you'll piss off the Demon Head. unspoken, deadly protection while still sort of trying to kill each other.

[yeetus-feetus]

Damian: why is there erotic homosexual poetry written in Arabic in the manor's library? Which one of you owns these?

Jason: not me I prefer slow burn romances. Preferably in English or Spanish.

Stephanie: I don't know arabic.

Cass: not me.

Duke: I also don't know Arabic.

Bruce: I'm not into poetry or homosexual.

Everyone: *side-eyes Bruce*

Bruce: what?

Stephanie: nothing.

Damian: it has to be Dick, then. My poor eyes. I was excited to see something in my tongue and now I am scarred for life.

Dick, walking into the room: what's happening?

Stephanie: Dami found gay Arabic poetry in the library.

Dick: what? Why would someone leave that in there where my innocent baby brother can see?

Cass: not innocent.

Jason: well who else knows Arabic?

Tim, coming in to refill his coffee: what's happening?

Duke: erotic poetry, that's in Arabic for some reason.

Tim, glancing over: oh... one of those is Farsi actually.

Damian: how do you know that? You didn't even read it.

Tim: I recognise the cover.

Duke: you recognise the cover??

Damian: so these are yours!

Tim: ...yeah?

Bruce: where on earth did you get these Tim??

Tim: they were a gift.

Cass: who?

Tim: ...uhhh, y'know actually I'm too tired to remember right now. *Runs*

Dick: wha-Tim!

Jason, completely deadpan: he's either seeing Talia or Ra's.

Damian: *gags* Todd how dare you propose that! How could you even be sure of that?

Jason: I slept with your mum, I'd know.

Everyone: WHAT!?

[bxt-cat]

“If he's a serial killer, then what's the worst

That could happen to a girl who's already hurt?

I’m already hurt!!’

“If he's as bad as they say, then I guess I'm cursed

Looking into his eyes, I think he's already hurt

He's already hurt”

[hubridbunny]

Why does no one ever seem to have a child the normal way. Why’s it always gotta be some shit like “I stole your dna and combined it with mine in a lab”

[cockdestroyersofcoruscant]

ra's al ghul saw this insane teenage boy rejected by everyone he ever cared for, overcome with grief over the loss of both his parents (whose reanimated corpses he was forced to fight) and of his adoptive father and all his friends, called crazy by the only family left alive and said is anybody gonna have his children or do i have to do everything myself

[candywafercutie]

subtle RasTim joke

[arianna-creates]

Re-using old prompts and dialogue in order to track my progress 🤝

[robbinghisdick]

Oh, I never posted the ra'stim kid. Her name is Layla El Drake and I love her SO much

She's not scary tho 💕

Shortest run down: when Tim found out he was pregnant, he asked Kon to pretend to be the father because he doesn't want anyone to know that the baby was Ra's. Hides his pregnancy, falsified her records so she's a few months younger than she really is. Babies grow fast so barely anyone got to see her until its less obvious that Tim lied.

But uh... it becomes pretty obvious that she's not Kon's bio kid the older she gets 😅

[mistress-of-vos]

I really really need the Ra'sTim baby to be the antichrist if only because it's funny.

Ra's, an heretic. Tim, an atheist. And their baby is the incarnation of the eternal fight between good and evil meant to end it all.

Tim and Ra's can't believe it. Tim thinks their baby (Anthony) is too adorable as to be the antichrist! Although the fact that his baby spits fire, has fangs and manipulates everything around him might not be so normal.

Ra's? Ra's went to visit Lucifer himself and asked if he had screwed his spouse. Lucifer laughed, and said "It was only written the antichrist would be born from a devil and his spouse. They never specified which devil."

In the end, Ra's and Tim just embrace that Anthony might bring the world to its destruction. Or maybe he will calm down and just be Ra's 2.0, except he has cool magic and Tim's eyes.

It's adorable tho. Anthony is a mamma's boy, and he will stop all evil he's doing whenever Tim is close, raising his little chubby hands and begging to be carried. When Tim sings him to sleep, Anthony becomes a truly angelic baby.

Ubu, in the other hand, isn't paid enough for this.