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theweeklydiscourse · 9 months ago
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No, actually. It is not “shaming Katara’s femininity” or her “maternal traits” to critique the ways in which her character was relegated to a the passive role of the Avatar’s grieving widow and largely ignored by the narrative post-ATLA. Oh my god, we are not “degrading” Katara by pointing out the sexist implications of how her character was handled and to suggest such a thing is just so…infuriating and very revealing of the underlying sexism in the fandom.
No thoughts, just people endlessly glorifying Katara’s maternal tendencies without bothering to question or investigate the adverse effects of her parentification. Apparently anyone who criticizes the writing of Katara’s character is just denigrating “traditional femininity” and THEY are the true misogynists! Not the male writers or viewers who consistently minimize Katara’s significance to the narrative and mock fans who ship her with anyone other than Aang.
Not at all, really we should just accept the conditions of the narrative uncritically and never question the biases of the creators. How dare we criticize them and point out the underlying sexism in their writing?
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myfandomrealitea · 11 months ago
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I'm going to be fully honest, I hate the use of problematic as a coined term for fictional ships. I feel like problematic has just become one of those terms tossed around at anything and everything and often used as a gotcha net.
"I don't care about your ships as long as they're not problematic."
Okay. Are we talking about incest or just a ship where they have clashing political opinions?
Am I not allowed to ship the sentient wolf creature with the twink or am I not allowed to ship the two middle aged store clerks who have different views on wanting children?
What if one half of my canon ship gets de-aged to eighteen? Is it suddenly problematic to ship them for as long as that character remains de-aged?
What kind of age brackets are we defining as problematic these days? What are the cut-off points for when its not problematic for two people to fall in love? What if one person has a birthday before the other one and for a few months they're not part of that acceptable bracket anymore?
Problematic is just being used as a one-word way to shut people down and force them to comply with your own expectations and boundaries. Problematic is thrown around as a way to box people into behaving and existing in ways that make you comfortable.
"I don't like the way that you exist so I'm going to brand you as this negative word that forces you to change to suit my preferences or be shunned by society."
Problematic means to constitute as or to present a problem. It is not the shiny new term for 'if you ship this thing you're a terrible person.'
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ohmygodshesinsane · 13 days ago
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sometimes seeing ship discourse is so funny bc its like ‘real life offline people would think this is DISGUSTING’ and then in real life you just have people who think luke and leia should have ended up together. ‘your irl friends would think this age gap ship is EVIL’ the most average 20something woman you know had ezria from pretty little liars as her lockscreen at some point
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jas-peesauna · 3 months ago
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nygmobs practice animatic ^_^
ignore that i got lazy by the end
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flowersintheimpala69 · 5 months ago
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Born to write incest on tumblr forced to disapprove of wincest on TikTok
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i-dreamed-i-had-a-son · 3 months ago
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Broke (2016): BBC Sherlock is a phenomenal piece of media and anything that seems like a flaw just hasn't been fully explored yet
Woke (2020): BBC Sherlock is an incredibly flawed series run by an egotistical writer, it never deserved the hype and is actively bad on so many fronts (especially representation)
Bespoke (2024): BBC Sherlock is flawed and bogged down by increasingly poor writing, which many fans refused to see while it was airing, leading to hugely misplaced expectations (particularly for the final series), AND it has the seeds of some compelling characterizations and portrayals, some genuinely solid performances, and touches--albeit imperfectly--on complexities that are still being discussed today (particularly as it relates to the relationship between Sherlock and John). The huge cultural impact of the show has created a massive pendulum effect in its public perception, leading to most people today remembering a caricature of the show (whether positive or negative) rather than appreciating its nuanced merits and failings...that being said Season 4 sucked
#these just sum up my personal takes at the years in question and also what i'm seeing on tumblr/other social media#bbc sherlock#sherlock holmes#and i actually have a lot more thoughts to share on this series#specifically relating to the cultural impact#there is SO much about the show that goes unappreciated in hindsight because of how public perception of it has soured#and i totally fell into this as well--i still regularly rewatch hbomberguy's video absolutely dismantling the series and he isn't wrong!!#but what i'm saying is that i think it's easy for us to look at a piece of media (especially one so massively popular) like sherlock...#with very black-and-white lenses. it wouldn't have become so popular if there wasn't something inherent in it that resonated with people#and that's being buried (and i totally forgot it) because 'sherlock is cringe and problematic. can't believe i liked that'#which again it IS full of issues and those are well-documented as they should be. future portrayals should not repeat those mistakes#BUT being able to impact so many people is a merit in itself. and that's only possible because of other genuinely good things about the show#yes the way they handled the relationship between john and sherlock was riddled with problems YES it was often queerbaiting#AND the way they portrayed that relationship had a deep effect on me. i saw a lot of myself in sherlock and the complex way he loved john#the nuanced feelings he had about john's marriage to mary. the part (in s4!) where john calls him inhuman for not feeling romantic love#there was genuine intention and care put into some parts of this show and it comes through in scenes like those. they impact people.#and because of this realization i'm going to (eventually) do a rewatch of the show. i'm much older and i want to see how i'll view it now#but i want to go into it--and i want everyone who engages with it still--to have an open mind and evaluate it for what it is#not what we expected it to be (secret episode anyone?) or what the cultural drift has turned it into (the tiktok of sherlock's mind palace)#but the messy problematic somewhat-heartfelt massively significant and ultimately meaningful piece of media it actually was#anyway that's my thoughts would love to hear y'all's perspectives#funny how after all this time making a sherlock post still feels like i'm poking a bees' nest lol please be kind!#kay can i just catch my breath for a second#kay has a party in the tags
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I just saw someone on TikTok joke about Nemlei being doxxed, saying she deserved it and “that’s what she gets for making The Coffin of Andy and Leyley” and I just… no matter what you think about problematic fictional content, how messed up do you have to be to think that someone (a real person) deserves such a thing?
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cowboylikeyouu · 9 days ago
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i think i lost all my remaining brain cells in this comment section
Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media Tumblr media
idk if i wanna laugh or cry about the fact that NOBODY in this convo has any clue what they’re talking about
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theydreamtheydream · 6 months ago
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So has anyone else noticed the section of the Bridgerton fandom of white women treating Regé-Jean Page like a sex toy and absolutely freaking the hell out why he doesn’t come back so they can “have their duke” and “they want simon”…it’s creepy, sexualizing, and probably racially motivated, right?
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oceanwithouthermoon · 6 months ago
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i hate when people can't acknowledge that their interests or favs have faults... like wdym "well 🤓 there actually was not any fatphobia in saiki k, the jokes in those episodes were that she was unhealthy, not that she was fat-" the entire joke is that she gets fat. thats the entire joke, and you KNOW that thats the entire joke. you can enjoy those episodes and find the rest of the humor in them funny while also acknowledging that its weird that the whole joke was that she got fat.
and dont even get me started on people defending what they did with mera in the island arc... why cant you just say "yeah thats really weird and we shouldnt condone it" and move on instead of going "welllllll! actually ��☝️ they did nothing wrong!"
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isaywordz · 4 months ago
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I’d like to say now, I don’t like Sabrina Carpenter. I don’t why, just a bad vibe. When she becomes problematic, please look back at this, because I told you so.
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the-maladjustedjester · 3 months ago
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God I love toxic ships. I love one-sided obsessions. I love manipulation and evil intentions. I love mutually assured destruction. I love psychological torture. I love puppeteering in the metaphorical and literal sense. I love coercion and power imbalances. I love dreams being haunted.
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deliciouspirateangel · 2 months ago
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the replies in that dr frank n furter poll is actually insane. the way ppl truly misunderstand the intentions behind that character astounds me
God the way I was on my glee blog and saw you reblogged that poll and was about to message YOU about it…
First of all, the children do not know queer history. Many such cases. Sad.
Second of all, im sorry the creator of the musical had an 80 year old man opinion on transitioning that isn’t totally PC, but he literally described himself as genderfluid (in his own words) before. You think he wrote a whole musical just to make fun of himself??? You don’t think that could’ve been an exploration of anything personal for him??? Guess not 🤷🏻
Third of aaaall. You know how much flack fucking. Heartstopper gets?? One of the fluffiest and chillest pieces of queer media there is?? Gets shit all over bc it isn’t an accurate representation of 100% of queer people on earth’s experiences. How is Rocky Horror supposed to save itself alsjdhdjsk
There is no one singular piece of queer media that every single person under the lgbtqia++ umbrella will hold up as a beacon of self acceptance, self understanding, and entertainment. But in the meantime, a ton of queer people of all ages from all walks of life under all letters of the queer alphabet LOVE Rocky Horror. This queer bitch right here fucking loves it too!! And that’s all that matters ♥️♥️♥️
Also I do reeeally wanna fuck Frank n Furter
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luc1ferian · 3 months ago
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Glad that the Earth was destroyed before Zaphod found out before the Internet and, in turn, social media was invented. Like. Day one the guy would be at the core of every internet drama ever. There would be *multiple video essays* about him; not just about the extra extremities and his goofy aah outfits but also about the nature of his content. Zarquon knows what that would be
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tarotmantic · 1 year ago
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i will never justify why i like deh bc i don’t have to actually. i can just like it no qualifier needed
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garnet-xx-rose · 7 months ago
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Idk if it’s because of how I’ve curated my feed but I rarely see people shitting on Christine. Any E/C space I’m in is mostly about centering Christine and her satisfaction.
That said, I feel the constant need to warn people that “If you like Erik and Christine as a couple, remember not to have that kind of relationship IRL” is kind of annoying. I get the intention, but people, including young people, aren’t stupid and don’t need constant reminders to not be inspired by their toxic faves.
Like yes girl, I know the Phantom is not a real man. I wish a wealthy, nerdy, musically talented, intelligent old man that lived underground and wanted to help me with my music career was real. But he’s not, so I’m gonna indulge in fiction.
Bless the rest of y’all that get involve in the discourse though. Honestly, could not be me.
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