#pro/hoo

[helpallthenamesaretaken]

"annabeth chase is an cold and emotionless character"

the judge: please rise, defendent, you have the right to address the court. do you wish to say anything in your defense?

the canonical teddy bear in her camp trunk pulling up like:

[bvckbiter]

fandom talks too little about hylla and reyna. reyna killed her father when she thought he'd killed hylla. hylla dragged them out of puerto rico and found them sanctuary and employment on circe's island AND became one of circe's favorites. then when they got captured by blackbeard hylla also got them out of that situation by out-pirating literal immortal pirates. then in a span of three years, they split up, found their own ways to the amazons and cj, and became the leaders of their respective factions. when hylla's queenship was being threatened by otrera in son, she plotted a counter-coup and defeated an amazon queen who couldn't die two nights in a row in one-on-one combat, THEN led her cavalry to camp jupiter. (ik this woman slept like a corpse for a week afterwards). hylla used reyna as an absolutely ruthless bait-and-switch to capture orion, and all reyna said in response to that was, "bet." reyna carries insurmountable amounts of both guilt and gratitude towards her sister. even though they havent seen each other in a while, hylla still drops everything and does everything in her power to save her baby sister when she knows reyna needs her.

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

Octavian knew he was going to die but went along with it because he thought it would make him a hero. He wanted to be loved till his last breath......and you want me to hate him?

Source: wiki

[a-sparrows-melody]

Things I Would Change About PJO

(I might write a fanfic based on these points):

The whole Hunters-Of-Artemis thing. Like what do you mean Artemis hates all men. What about Orion and all the rest. What do you mean she hates Apollo. She loves him so much. Stop already. That whole thing was just erroneous interpretation of Greek Mythology and it felt really weird and toxic.

Annabeth and Percy's trauma bond. Annabeth is pretty toxic in a relationship, especially in the HoO books when she and Percy get together. Love their relationship as a concept but the way Rick writes it is just... not it. To show Annabeth as a "strong woman" he continuously makes her put Percy down - and not only in COTG and WOTTG. She literally judo-flips him when they met after that long traumatic period where Percy was suffering from amnesia and being killed so many times. I would love to see more of their dynamic as friends and make it a longer, healthier, equal-footed relationship.

Thalia Grace joining the Hunters and never leaving. What the hell. She only joined to escape the Great Prophecy 1. She can leave right after the Battle of Manhattan and take Percy's place in Great Prophecy 2.

Bianca being alive, only "lost" (never specified dead!). It's a pretty big plot-point for Nico and I think it would probably have a bigger impact on him to lose his only care-giver and watch her come back into his life after he's grieving greatly and he's in the process of learning how to live life without her. It would truly change up their entire systems and I would love to see Nico and Bianca coming to a point where they realize it's time to live their own lives. ALSO STOP TREATING BIANCA LIKE A PLOT-DEVICE FOR NICO. COME ON. DO BETTER.

Make Nico better. In general. The character has so much potential but is just reduced to "sunshine character's grumpy emo goth boyfriend" or "kid whose type is NOT PERCY HAHAHAHA SO FUNNY". Give him some more development.

LUKE WAS A GROOMER AND ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU JUST FORGIVE HIM AND NOT OCTAVIAN, WHO WAS LITERALLY BULLIED AND MANIPULATED INTO DOING THE SHIT HE DID. If you want to hate Luke, hate Octavian too. If you want to forgive him, forgive Octavian too. Stop hating complex characters.

CALEO. OH MY GOD CALEO. LIKE ACTUALLY DIE. THAT IS SO HORRIBLE.

Piper does not need to be gay.

Jason does not need to die.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN GROVER DID NOT USE HIS EMPATHY LINK TO SEARCH FOR PERCY IN TARTARUS. SMH.

Percy should NOT have become Praetor.

Reyna should not be aro/ace or she's just horrible representation of both those things. STOP PUTTING EVERY ARO/ACE CHARACTER IN THE HUNTERS OF ARTEMIS.

Why would Nico search for Bianca and bring Hazel back? That thing makes no sense. His whole arc in TLO was to accept the loss of his sister. Instead, bring out Ethan Nakamura who is still angry and jealous and wants to bring balance to the world. He comes out on his own, BTW.

The whole "Wilderness school" plotline thing. OF COURSE monsters would come for Pipes and Leo. They're really damn powerful and really damn young. What the hell do you mean by they never knew anything till Jason? smh.

SOLANGELO. CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS BUT IT'S OUT THERE. Will is just a blank character to show that Nico's gay and prove he's over Percy (STOP WITH THE "NOT MY TYPE" JOKES OH MY GOD GET OVER IT ALREADY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU). If you're doing this, at least give me a good, long slow-burn. Or don't show it at all. Nico decides to live in normal life after being shunned and confused all his life in the magical world. Now he finds a mortal boyfriend and is actually thriving. His character is so beautiful like stop ruining him and using him as a goddamn plot-device all the time. Ugh.

CHANGE NICO'S COMING OUT SCENE! LITERALLY WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT.

Jason and Piper breaking up was such a good plot point because not everyone falls in love but you need to make it heart-wrenching. Jason doesn't know what's going on. He's just dating Piper because that's what he's being told, that's what he did his whole life. MAKE IT HAPPEN IN HOO.

NO FRAZEL AND LEO LOVE TRIANGLE. ALSO JUST NO FRAZEL IN GENERAL. STOP WITH THE FRAZEL. THAT'S SO UNHEALTHY.

MAKE LEO ARO/ACE GODDAMN. He has so much potential. Like he always feels loveless? Like a failure? Feels a need to have a partner to prove his worth? DIE. MAKE HIM ARO/ACE. MAKE HIM DEAL WITH ALL THAT.

Actually valgrace is a pretty good plot point as well. valdangelo as well.

WHY AREN'T THERE ANY POLY SHIPS IN PJO? SMH. SERIOUSLY. SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

Don't kill me but... perachel is pretty good. I've written a small post about it here.

Welp this is officially too long. Anyway. I wanted to add more but this has been sitting in my drafts and collecting dust a long time so here you go.

[sapphos-maiden]

reading ACOTAR made me realise how life was better when fantasy was just my guy Peter Johnson and the Olympians-

(also...)

[punkeropercyjackson]

Painting Thalia as a pick me for the 'Death to Barbie' shirt makes me roll my eyes.I love Barbie as much as the next girlypop but it's hardly the feminist movement it's made out to be.All the Barbies are canonically cis,they pulled out the Black Barbie line so quickly it's hard to even find stuff about it on google(it was called S.i.s btw)and i doubt were ever getting an explicitly or even just implied autistic Barbie.Thalia is punk asf for hating it and i bet she diy'd it like the punk queen she is

[valewritessss]

What Annabeth antis don’t seem to understand is that no one dislikes them for not liking Annabeth, but it’s because they make up a bunch of shit, think it actually happened, and then get mad at her for the things they made up.

[empresskadia]

Rereading these books just confirms for me that I am 100% a Hera stan and I always will be.

She is that bitch.

And she deserves so much better because she is loyal to a fault.

[erenfox]

unpopular opinion: i enjoy and ship caleo.

[ramblingsfromthytruly]

teen percabeth and (barely) adult jily but they're variants of each other

[helpallthenamesaretaken]

its not enough that I read that annabeth chase is a good architect. I need to read her in action. I need to know the creative process. I need to see her at nights, drafting out masterful plans on sheets of paper. I need to see her with a gleam in her eyes as she walks around the site pointing at things and telling people what to do. I need to see her light up with joy when the building is done and wipe the sweat off her face as she looks up at her creation, her craft, her new permanent perfect monument worthy of the gods. I need everyone to be worried in wrath of the triple goddess cuz "what do we do?? hecates mansion is ruined???" and annabeth to swoop in and save the day, rebuilding the mansion better than hecate could ever dream of. cause that was her dream since she was seven. and she did it. she achieved her grand plan.

[i-am-traveling-the-multifandom]

My head canons about Drew Tanaka:

1. Her father is a child of Dionysius. I mean she does give the vibes of the wine aunt.

2. She has siblings. And not like other children of Aphrodite. Her father has other children.

3. Her father was an actor when he met Aphrodite and fell in love with her and had Drew. When he found out that she was a goddess and just disappeared into thin air he was furious.

4. He wanted revenge and that attracted Nemesis. And thus her 1st brother was born. (in my AU his name is Ethan, I love this name) He made him even more angry and he was petty as hell.

5. He decided to practice magic to get his revenge and this attracted *drum role* Hecate. And thus her 2nd brother was born.(in my AU his name is Albastor, I love this name as well) After this her father gave up and just tried to raise them as a single parent.

6. Drew is allergic to like everything. Trying to buy her something is very hard. Like chocolates, can't have pistachios or almonds in them. Clothes, don't you dare give her silk she will kill you and then die. Flowers, well you get it.

7. She is bisexual and falls in love with every single person she meets. Never in a serious way but she gets bi panic all the time.

8. The 1st time she broke someone's heart, it was a mortal boy and she felt horrible for it.

9. She dated Nyssa (from Hepheastus cabin) secretly for 3 months and then went public. She is in a serious relationship with her and is absolutely smitten.

10. She was very close to Selina. Her betrayal was a big blow to her. I don't think she hated Selina for betraying camp but rather because she left her. I think she probably felt as if Selina chose her love for Charles over her.

11. She can use a gun. Seriously I imagine that the camp is under attack and everyone is fighting. And then Drew *I don't fight* Tanaka will pull out a gun and start shooting every monster in range with perfect accuracy.

12. She is friends with the Stoll twins, Malcolm pace, Nyssa, and Katie. And she high key ships Travis and Katie.

[forgechildofheph]

Hey! I think I saw somewhere that Luke was one of your fav PJO characters so I want your opinion on something.

Do you think that between May and Hermes that May has more responsibility for Luke's ruined childhood??

Unfortunately, the mortal parent bears more responsibility with child-rearing and May knew that Hermes could/would not stick around forever. So she knew Luke would be dependent on her. Yet she still took the risk of taking the oracle, leaving Luke without a stable parent.

Based on what I am reading so far, Luke would have turned out much better if he had a good home. Even if everything with Kronos still happened, maybe he could have reached an emotional understanding of his father like Percy did with Poseidon in the end. Luke would have an adult figure who loved him and maybe he would be more open to seeing the subtle ways Hermes was trying to help him. Hermes did say he answered Luke's prayers (not sure which ones?).

I feel bad thinking this way because May is a victim of the big three nonsense squabble but it seems like May failed Luke more than Hermes (at least at this moment). I still wish in Diary of Luke Castellan that we saw a clear sign from Hermes like we did with Zeus (and I guess Athena too). The entire Castellan family just makes me sad.

Made a cut because this is a long answer to a simple ask (680 words and 3884 characters) . So pls consider this as your warning.

I completely understand why you feel that way, especially given how Luke's childhood played. May's decision to take on the Oracle's curse undeniably left Luke without a stable home, and as the primary caretaker, she bore much of the day-to-day responsibility. However, i wouldn't go as far as to say she failed Luke more than Hermes—rather, both of them contributed to their son's downfall in different ways. May was a victim of circumstances beyond her own control. While she did make the decision to take the Oracle's spirit (which ultimately shattered her mind), it wasn't an inherently selfish or reckless act—it was a misguided attempttodo something great, likely influenced by the same hubris we see in Annabeth and other demigods.

And here's the thing—at the time, no one knew about Hades' curse on the Oracle.

They only knew that the Oracle's spirit/power wouldn't pass on, not *why*. So from May's perspective, taking on the Oracle might have seemed like the noble, even logical choice. The tragedy is that she was left in that state, with no help or intervention (until Luke left, wherein Hermes suddenly started visiting May and looking after her), leaving Luke to grow up in an unstable, unsafe environment. That doesn't mean that she didn't love him—if anything, her fractured mind constantly trying to "fix" him (and spoiler alert, being horrified at the visions she is getting about her son's future) shows that on some level, she desperately wanted to be a good mother. But she couldn't be, and that wasn't entirely her fault. On the other hand, Hermes had the power and resources to change Luke's circumstances and didn't. He knew May was unwell, knew that Luke was struggling, and yet his form of parenting was limited to answering unspecified prayers and offering cryptic warnings about the danger of resentment. He is a god, yes,a nd gods are rarely involved in their children's lives—but if Poseidon could acknowledge Percy, if Athena could influence Annabeth's upbringing and make sure to bring her to Frederick Chase's doorstep in a golden cradle (like some sort of godly child support), then Hermes choosing to remain distant despite knowing the environment Luke was growing up in is still a major failing.

And sure, the gods have their laws about interfering too much in mortal lives. But let's be honest—Hermes is the god of Cunning and Wit. He, of all people, should have been able to find some loophole, some way to provide aid without technically breaking the rules. He's a trickster god, a messenger,a negotiator—if there was anyone who could have bent the rules to at least help his belioved son and May, it was him.

And yet, nothing. (And pls don't see this as me dissing Hermes—love the god, but I can't deny the fact that c'mon—Homeboy is not the best dad ever either.)

Then again, this could also just be chalked up to Rick Riordan's shoddy writing when it came to Luke. because, let's be real again— Riordan clearly didn't know what to do with Luke's character. Instead of letting him remain the deeply complex, morally gray character that he started out as with the goals he said he had, he gets flattened into a stereotypical one-note villain, especially from Percy's point-of-view (which we are reading from). Luke had all the setup to be one of the most nuanced and tragic characters in teh series, but instead, Riordan needed a big bad to kill off, and Luke ended up being the short end of the stick.

So in the end, May was a victim of her circumstances, acting on incomplete information, and Hermes was a god who chose not to act (or simply didn't know how to). Both contributed to Luke's downfall, but in very different ways. And had Riordan actually fleshed out Luke's story with the same depth and care he gave Percy (which I kinda don't even think he did tbh), we might have a much more compelling and emotionally satisfying conclusion to his arc. Sorry for the long-ass post @fanfic-lover-girl . I tend to get really rambly once I get into it, but hopefully i answered your question ina satisfactory manner

[bookworm-2000]

Jason Grace deserved better 😭

Rick did us so dirty. He basically just dangled this incredible backstory in front of us. Like my man was literally raised by wolves?? And yet still grew up to be one of the most, if not the most respectful young man in the entire series??

Percy being better with a sword genuinely doesn’t make sense with Jason’s hinted background either. This guy who has been training since he was three years old (twelve years) and then this kid who’s only been training for five is stronger than him?

I honestly feel like Rick only did this so people didn’t hate Jason more than they already did, having a character who wasn’t the main be stronger than the said main character.

That’s a mouthful but you get what I mean. I’m 99% sure there’s a word for characters like Jason, but I can’t remember what it is. It’s kind of like how in ffs you get Mary Sue’s, or original female characters who take over the story? Not really but kinda.

But yes, let’s not forget this kid, because that’s literally what they all are! Kids!

But THIS kid didn’t know when his birthday was…

How can you hate him when you know that? That kind of backstory is usually enough to make people love horrible, bloodthirsty villains but not a 16 year old hero who lost everything when Hera took his memories?

It doesn’t make sense.

[punkeropercyjackson]

because you have good takes on all the other major pjo characters: thoughts on Annabeth? (tbh imo she’s a bad girlfriend but she’s been abused and groomed to bring her there so I hope she like. Goes to therapy ig.)

NO EXACTLY SHE'S SO SUCKS BUT THAT'S ON LUKE AND ATHENA AND FREDRICK(and Chiron coUGHS).I also think she's extremely white feministic and has severe internalized cisheteronormativity but like.That should've been a plot point.By having her overcome it and potray it as a flaw.She has a redemption arc in my head and while Percy never stops resenting her for abusing her(and i don't think she'd be very good at handling Percy's transfeminism,seeing as it's canon she expects traditional masculinity of her and for her to 'man up' and 'punishes' him for not playing the roles that're expected of 'men' dating women with insults and hitting and shutting her out),she does heal from what happened to her and becomes a good person.She deserves it,since it's not her fault she is and nobody helps her out of,ableit this is a bit her fault actually but then again her coping mechanisms(and misogyny and racism)were passed down by Luke as he raised her so can't resent her much on that

And i think she's a lesbian who's comphetting on Percy seeing as she instantly liked Piper who's just Percy but an out girl(Piper is tfem to me as well)and should go butch and on testosterone and get owl wing top surgery scars.She'd be much happier and if Percy knew she was trans early on,that would've saved their friendship to turn it into a healthy one.It could've been groomed girls against the world but nooooooo,Rickald had to force Percy to not crack💀I do like her arcitecture interest and her backstory and Athena quest were pretty good !!Also unpopular opinions but i don't like autistic Annabeth,very stereotypical imo and Percy is far more autistic-coded than her,specifically audhd with no masking game and is the best autism rep that could ever come out of anything and Rachabeth is a bad ship since Annabeth dosen't deserve Rachel after what she put her through and it's hypocritical af to be anti Percabeth yet ship this.And she smokes weed and owns a bong with owls painted on it and likes potato grits

[valewritessss]

When people say Annabeth was an unreliable narrator and her stepmom was actually nice to her…