#pro jedi culture

[mysticaltora8276]

OK, I may have said this before, but I’m going to reiterate this point. Attachments aren’t what people seem to think they are.

Let me explain. In Star Wars, when the Jedi referred to attachment, they are referring to what Buddhism would refer to as in a literal translation an obsession. Attachments is the most closest western equivalent to the direct translation. And these attachments are basically the cause of suffering. Why? Because they prevent you from spiritual enlightenment. These aren’t things like family and friends. These are unhealthy obsessions that crippled you and make you unable to progress spiritually.

And the other inspiration for the Jedi Christianity has a similar explanation, although with a different theological implication, but the general principle is the same. In Christianity there is the idea that this world is transient. It’s not permanent nor are Christians supposed to get attached to it. The idea is is that they live in this world, but they are not of this world. That is not to say you can’t enjoy the things of this world like going out to the movies or having a good meal or spending time with friends and family. But it’s being aware that at any time it can go away. Either through misfortune, such as poverty or even death. Clinging onto the attachment of this world leads to spiritual ruin because you cease to focus on the supernatural such their relationship with God and how it affects their relationships with others and focusing on the superficial and harmful things. Again, it’s similar to Buddhism, but their solution is slightly different than Buddhism.

And that’s where Jedi get the principle of non-attachment. From the Buddhist idea of unhealthy obsessions lead to not spiritual enlightenment. And the Christian sense of focusing on the material world interferes with the relationship with the Creator. That’s why I don’t get why certain people seem to think that “attachments are good.” They’re basically saying, unnatural obsessions that lead you away from spiritual enlightenment, or a relationship with the creator of the universe, and the terms of the Jedi is somehow good. It’s not see Anakin Skywalker for how well that works out.

[starbeltconstellation]

Helloooo, to all SW fans! 👋

Sooo, I have decided to make this like a… monthly? 🤔🤔 Reblog, to search for other like minded pro Jedi individuals like myself in the SW fandom, so I can find more of my little fandom corner.

So! 😁 I humbly ask those that are Pro Jedi, and do NOT blame them for their own genocide (🤦‍♀️🤢🥶) to reblog or like this post, so I can follow more SW fandom blogs.

I also would follow fans who are Anakin critical/anti Anakin. Although I’m more of a pro Jedi fan who still has sympathy and SO much love for Anakin’s character (🥲💔❤️), while still realizing the fault lies with himself, I also enjoy reading a lot of critical analysis on his character too.

But any Anakin fans who love him to death like me and aren’t afraid to hear criticism are welcome to like this post too! ❤️

The same goes with pro Jedi/pro clone blogs. The Jedi are my ultimate favorite blorbos, but the clones are also so very dear to me, and I love to read headcanons about them. 💕

Hopefully this isn’t a weird post. Lol. 😅🫣😂 I just thought this was a good way to expand outward into more fandom territory.

Thanks! 😜💕❤️✨

[obi-wanswhore3791]

I hate that people use Anakin or Ashoka as examples as to why the Jedi/Jedi code is wrong. Like they just ignore the fact that tens of thousands of Jedi did just fine with the code and Jedi way of life for thousands of years.

[jedimasterbailey]

SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THE THIRD EPISODE OF AHSOKA

PRO JEDI RANT DOWN BELOW

This Loth Cat is a good representation of me not losing my mind on how badly the Jedi Order is being completely defiled by Feloni. Okay…so apparently according to Feloni anybody can just be a Jedi if they try really, really hard and believe in them because the Force resides in everyone when we all know that that’s not fucking true according to Lucas. Yes, the Force resides in all things HOWEVER it is the Force sensitive (I.e. the Jedi and Sith) that are able to wield the Force because they’ve got the blood to do so (midocholorians… I’m sure I’ve butchered the spelling forgive me). So with that being said, does anything in Star Wars even matter anymore? Like honestly.

By this logic…anybody in the OT could have just destroyed the Sith if they tRiEd HaRd EnOuGh. So I guess fuck the importance of Luke Skywalker and all the other survivors of Order 66? And I suppose by this logic none of the prequel Jedi or hell even Anakin doesn’t matter because anybody can just wield a lightsaber and tap into the Force if tHeY jUsT bElIeVeD iN tHeMsElVeS? Why does Rey matter when apparently anyone could have taken down the First Order and destroyed Palpatine when some fucking Mando could have just done the job of being Force sensitive doesn’t matter?

Like believe me guys, I am TRYING so hard not to be a hater but it truly makes me sad to see the one element of Star Wars I love so much (I.e. the Jedi Order and everything they do and stand for) just get picked apart and trashed over and over and over again. I just don’t understand it and I know I can’t be the only one feeling like this.

Also Ahsoka’s character right now is reminding me of Luke’s in TLJ where I feel like I’m seeing and hearing a completely different character and it’s heartbreaking when you’ve looked up and loved these heroes so much. Like for Gods sake can we settle the score in where Ahsoka stands with the Jedi? Is she or is she not? Because right now she’s doing a poor representation of all her mentors who have lost their lives staying true to themselves, Jedi who gave everything to protect and save lives. Now she seems to just go out of her way to scoff at the Order that raised her, similar to Luke dismissing the very thing that gave him hope in the OT.

As these new shows go on, it just makes the fall of the Jedi Order all the more tragic just seeing how their sacrifice and good will meant absolutely nothing. That’s why characters like Cal Kestis and Cere Junda are incredible. They stayed true to their Jedi values no matter what because that’s what the galaxy needs, heroes who care. Not heroes who have personal agendas.

[andreacollector925]

Saying this with honesty, and absolute objectivity, the Pro Jedi Community here has been one of, if not THE most welcoming Communities I've ever become apart of on the Internet.

I've already met quite a few awesome people who share my avid dispising of Anti Jedi nonsense, Dave Filoni, and just being mildly annoyed with Sith Simps.

And to be apart of such a loving, united community again just feels.... great.

Great to finally find a community where toxicity isn't rampant (Like Pokémons), isn't infested with Pedophiles, (like the brony community), or both (Like the Slideshow Commentary Community) isn't widespread.

Genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, I love you all. And I hope our community continues to flourish for generations to come.

-Andrea (Jedi Padawan)

[jedi-enthusiasm-blog]

I feel it’s odd how many people seem absolutely determined to say how important romantic relationships are. Like I’m not interested in a romantic relationship, that just isn’t my vibe, but I still deeply care for everyone around me (even the people I disagree with, I still want them to have decent lives). The over emphasis on romantic relationships fails to show exactly how much people can and will give to others outside of that.

I'm sorry if those people don't love their families, don't love their friends, don't love their pets, don't love their community, don't enjoy any media, don't have any self-steem and don't have any sort of goodwill towards humanity.

I'm sorry they are miserable assholes, basically.

[devilangel657]

Realizing my happy au for Jedi and how they have been done dirty post OT:

Luke Skywalker and his journey to find Jedi remnants

Him going on a journey and finding Jedi like Cal

Finding Huyang and his knowledge of lightsabers ever made with stories attached

Gathering people together to make a new Jedi community and teaching force sensitives the way of the force

Hanging out with rebels crew and finding Ezra - he gets a surprise!

Ahsoka letting go of the past and relearning how to be a Jedi again

Those that were saved on the path found, including Jedi helping it like quinlan vos

Inquisitors that remain and got away finally getting their family and peace again

Reva being in the light with her Jedi family again since that night

Any hidden staches that Jocasta nu and other Jedi hid being found

Grogu reaching out like canon and being found

Tarre's lightsaber not being destroyed but returned to the Jedi and put to rest

Finding and guarding Ilum (not used as star killer base in sequels)

Nothing bad happens to this Jedi community at all

[atticusmorgentstern]

It is concerning. I just watched the Clone Wars episode where Tarkin brought up that point, and my God, the fact that Anakin heard him talking about how the Jedi were too ruthless for war and agreed that that was a problem is just...I have no words.

Like, yeah, Tarkin, the Jedi are not ruthless killers. That is, in fact, a good thing.

And the fact that Anakin spent over a decade as a Jedi at this point and doesn't grasp that is really telling. He parrots the Jedi code, but he doesn't grasp why the Jedi's mercy and compassion is inherently good.

Sure, the Jedi don't commit war crimes when leading the GAR. That's a good thing. And maybe the war is going on longer because they're not being needlessly violent, but that's the correct decision. Let's set aside the moral argument for a moment (we shouldn't have to; not murdering people unnecessarily should be reason enough not to do it). If the goal is to eventually reunite the separatists with the Republic, then committing war crimes and slaughtering the masses is no way to lay the groundwork for peace. Even if you kill them all now and force them into submission for the moment, they'll rise up again. You can't oppress a population violently and expect them to not resent it long-term.

Instead, the Jedi's decision to not take things too far ensures that when the war is over, a real peace can be built. One not saturated with hatred and needless violence. So while the war may take longer to stop, the peace it builds will be longer-lasting.

I do love how funny it is that Star Wars keeps having villains discuss how great the Jedi are and none of it sticks in the heads of anti-Jedi fans.

Tarkin: The Jedi are too soft and never violent or ruthless enough to win battles. Anti-Jedi fans: The Jedi completely lost their way and went against their philosophies by joining and WAR and KILLING people.

Tarkin and the Kaminoans: The Jedi helped the clones learn individuality. Anti-Jedi fans: The Jedi ENSLAVED the Clones and didn't care about them or fight for them ever.

Grand Inquisitor: The Jedi's main weakness is how much they want to help people and can't stop themselves from doing so even if it means they expose themselves to their enemies. Anti-Jedi fans: The Jedi feel no emotions/repress their emotions/don't understand what they feel/think they need to refuse all feelings, and they abused an already traumatized child because they didn't care about him/wouldn't let themselves care about him.

[mysticaltora8276]

Attachment isn’t love. It’s an unhealthy obsession. Think of it as like an addiction. It wrecks the lives of others and leads to spiritual ruin. Love is not selfish. Love is kind. Love is compassionate. Love is selfless. Love is what the Jedi preach. Get the facts straight.

[starbeltconstellation]

Ahh, and THERE it is… 🙃🙃

I have kept my opinions mostly to myself about The Acolyte, because I wasn’t planning on watching it until seeing where it went with the Jedi. Almost everything in SW media has an element of Jedi criticism (sadly 🙄), so I knew that would be a given with this show, so I was holding off on any total judgment until the end.

One thing I KNEW I would despise and would make me not ever watch it is if they actually made canon that the Jedi brutally murdered an entire coven of witches and COVERED UP A MASSACRE (wtf on that part, because they would NOT cover it up, even if they’d made a mistake). Apparently, it is not as bad as I feared, and they don’t destroy the Jedi Order’s characterization entirely.

But THIS line. 🥶🤢

With THIS line that is apparently written in the newest episode—that’s it. You’ve lost me.

Because THIS line is just straight up genocide apologia.

Ohhh, of course they don’t come outright and SAY, “Loool, those space wizards deserved what they got! 🤪🤪✊”, but the implication is pretty clear, all the same.

From the very beginning, I knew the showrunner of The Acolyte didn’t like the Jedi or their culture, and said that her show “wouldn’t be kind to them.”

And I could’ve lived with just the stupid vagueness of portraying the Jedi as a pompous bureaucracy (because it’s just an infectious opinion that’s spread through most of the fandom), without FULLY condemning The Acolyte and declaring the show a terrible portrayal of the Jedi and their morality and culture, along with the CANON aspects of the Dark Side being a cancer in The Force that does nothing but make people miserable and cause imbalance in The Force.

But with THIS LINE that is SO clearly a wink and a nudge to the SW fans who believe the Jedi ‘deserved what they got’… 🙄🤢… I’m sorry, but they’ve officially lost me. 😬🤷‍♀️

There are things that I’d probably like, if I ever can make myself stomach getting through the show: seeing how different cultures view The Force, seeing more of the Jedi Order/culture/Temple/how they teach their students, the characters Sol and Jecki and Yord and Osha—even seeing Jedi fighting style being so different and more defensive while trying to not use their lightsaber unless necessary, since they are in a time of peace.

But for the most part?

With THIS frankly DISGUSTING line, I can say with absolute certainty that The Acolyte is a show that I would never enjoy, and that is frankly not a welcome addition to the SW universe to me.

I appreciate the diversity inclusion, and I find myself relating to that meme that says something like: “When you hate a show, but then realize the other people that hate it are mostly bigots, 🙃🙃” because—unlike THOSE moronic dudebros—my criticism is for the story itself.

It’s a genuine shame. It’s such an interesting premise, getting to see the Jedi in the High Republic Era. But with this… I now know that The Acolyte is a show not worth my—or ANY OTHER pro Jedi fan’s time. 💔😔🤷‍♀️😬

Only thing I’ll say in defense of it: Mr. Sith (?) IS hot. 🔥❤️‍🔥

And that’s the only other praise I can give. 🤷‍♀️

Loool, sorry for the rant. I’m just so pissed off. 😭🤷‍♀️😂

[obi-wanswhore3791]

“The Jedi should have done this!”

“The Jedi should have done that!”

No! There was nothing they could’ve done to “help” Anankin because the story had already been written. Anakin was doomed to fall and become Vader, the Jedi would be mostly wiped out and the empire would rise.

[mysticaltora8276]

Again you’re blaming parents for something they didn’t see. Wasn’t aware people were supposed to be omniscient.

Furthermore excuse me? Where on earth are you getting that statistics for abused children? Children who’ve been abused by religious institutions like the Catholic Church would like a word with you. They had caring parents and they were fooled. So it’s their fault? Sounds like an awful lot of assumptions to me.

And yes the Jedi gave a crap about him. Anakin was conflicted about betraying them since he cares about them and while outside factors play a role ultimately it comes to a person choosing right or wrong. The Jedi cared about him. As for them sending him to Palpatine say it with me. THEY. 👏🏾DIDN’T. 👏🏾KNOW. 👏🏾PALPATINE. 👏🏾WAS. 👏🏾A. 👏🏾GROOMER!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I am team ‘The Jedi way of life is not abusive’ and ‘there are parts of jedi culture that anakin probably would have struggled to reconcile with his past as a child slave’ are statements that absolutely should co-exist. However I am also team ‘Anakin lost the right to say jack about it when he started murdering children’. 

[bosooka]

let jedi be jedi.

let them be uncomfortable with romance and/or marriage.

let them be repulsed at the idea of leaving the order.

let them feel liberated by jedi beliefs--let them see it as freedom from the burdens and chains of worldly life to follow the will of the force.

let them love the temple and think fondly of their fellow jedi and their communal lifestyle.

let them care for their masters and their padawans without imposing the dynamics of the nuclear family. let them explicitly reject comparisons of their masters to parents, or their padawans to children.

let them defend the jedi openly! without shame!

let them embrace the modesty, humility, and practicality of jedi clothing.

let them love being jedi, everything about being jedi, with no strings attached.

just....let jedi be jedi

[jedi-clone-appreciation]

Jedi Archive Series: Creche Gardens, 5th Centaxday, 3622 ATC. [3 of ?]

Closeups under cut!

[jedi-enthusiast]

Jedi culture is a padawan smacking one of their friends, poking them, playing a prank on them, etc. and then, when they try to retaliate, running away shouting- "REVENGE IS NOT THE JEDI WAY!!!"

[starbeltconstellation]

I feel like this sums up a lot of my thoughts as well about the entire situation with the people’s view on the Jedi and their culture. 👏👏👏

Prosset Dibs accusing Mace of corrupting Jedi teachings when he himself goes on to become an Inquisitor is so interesting.

What really strikes me is the ending of the comic, where he says:

“You will do with me what you will. That is what is to be expected of tyrants. Do not insult me with false deliberations. Are you not soldiers now? Is my punishment not to be death?” 

And then Mace answers that no, Prosset is actually a victim of the war, and that being angry and confused is normal and that they can’t fault him for that. 

And he assigns him archive duties. Archive duties, when Prosset was raving about them being tyrants and smugly awaiting the death sentence. And he says:

“Do not make me some example of your false benevolence. Kill me. Prove to me you are what I know you to be.” 

And there it is. The “from my point of view, the Jedi are evil” mindset that all the fallen Jedi share. Mace just demonstrated that Prosset’s assumptions about the Council were false, but Prosset adamantly refuses to see it. He just knows the Jedi are about to kill him. He just knows they don’t care. 

In accusing the Order of being blind, it’s interesting how the fallen become blind themselves because they’re set in their point of view. They’re dealing in absolutes. They see any situation through the lenses of their newfound belief that the Order is evil, and are intent on not departing from that point of view under any circumstances.

Prosset sees being shown compassion as false benevolence. Because obviously Mace is corrupted, so he can’t be truthful in that moment, so his empathy has to be a lie.

“Prove to me what I know you to be.” 

Instead of relying on proof to formulate a belief, his belief comes first and proof has to align with it. That’s the mindset of the Fallen. You know the other is wrong and evil, and so you’ll see every action that they take as a confirmation of that. And if the action is objectively good, then it’s them being hypocritical, or extending false benevolence. 

Dooku, Anakin, Barriss and Prosset all profess something of that effect, and they’re all fallen, or about to. Dooku is the one heading filthy rich and corrupt corporations, manipulating the whole galaxy and treating slaughters like trivial issues. Prosset becomes an Inquisitor - the enforcer of a tyrant, what he accused the Jedi of being even in the face of contrary evidence. Anakin becomes Vader. Barriss knowingly kills innocents on several separate occasions, when she accused the Jedi of warmongering. They all become the thing they swore to destroy.