#the jedi did nothing wrong

[short-wooloo]

Now that the trailer is out, it's probably best that I get this out of the way before acolyte releases

The Jedi are right about the Force and the dark side

The Jedi did not lose their way

The Jedi were not corrupted

The genocide of the Jedi was not their fault

The Jedi are not wrong for being part of the Republic, it is in fact a good thing

The Jedi are not arrogant for thinking the sith are gone

and while we're at it the sith are evil, always, end of discussion

The Jedi do not steal children

If someone wants to leave the Jedi, that's allowed, no one will stop them

The Jedi are right about attachment

Attachment is not love (SW uses the Buddhist definition because Lucas is a Buddhist and the Jedi are based off Buddhist monks, Buddhism defines attachment as being possessive or unwilling to let go of people or things)

The Jedi do not forbid emotions, they forbid being controlled by your emotions, you must control them

The Jedi are not forbidden from loving people, nor are they celibate, they just can't get married (big whup) because their duties must come first

Being peacekeepers doesn't preclude the Jedi from fighting in war, sometimes to keep the peace you have to fight back, especially when its against tyranny, see WWII (or Ukraine today)

Gray jedi are not a thing

The Jedi are not slavers or complicit in slavery

Oh and of course, the Jedi are not elitists for not training non Force sensitives, (Han voice) that's not how the Force works, dave filoni broke the rules so he could shoehorn sabine into a Jedi (to give the benefit of the doubt, I do believe sabine's role as ahsoka's apprentice was meant for an original character but things got condensed by executives, so maybe filoni isn't entirely to blame here)

(Edit)

The Jedi are not cops

The Jedi are not the government/the rulers of the Republic/galaxy

The Jedi do not persecute other Force groups

Padawans are not child soldiers

Feel free to add anything I forgot

Do not, DO NOT!! add anything Jedi critical, I'm done with it and won't hear it, don't have something nice to say? Then go away, I will block on sight, either reblog without comment (either in the reblog or the notes) or don't interact at all

[roses-red-strawberries]

Look I really like Anakin, but I also don't think that Palpatine had to work too hard to get him to fall.

Palpatine magnified Anakin's frustration with/distrust in the Jedi, but that's just it. He only worked with what was already there.

Anakin was just like that™. He wasn't an inherently *evil* person, and I think he is very good at heart, but he had massively obvious egotistical and selfish tendencies.

Anakin's whole thing was that he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.

He was understandably traumatised by his life as a slave, but he also kind of just refused to try and accept or understand the Jedi's teachings on attachment and emotional regulation. And accepted what Palpatine said because it suited him more.

The Council were 100% right to tell Qui-Gon that this kid was both too old and that his emotions were all over the place (and more than expected for even a kid like him. I absolutely think Anakin would have slaughtered the Tusken Raiders without any kind of external dark side influence in his life).

He didn't have to stay and be a Jedi once he fell in love with Padmé. Obi-Wan would still have been his friend/brother figure. And Anakin wouldn't have fallen into poverty, he could have easily found work and been just as technically powerful and famous, if not more.

But he thought/knew he was special, so didn't think it should matter that he broke the rules. He wanted the prestige of being a Jedi master and wanted to be with Padmé, so that's what he did.

He wasn't a perfect cinnamon roll that Palpatine managed to sink his claws into. He already fundamentally disagreed with the Jedi, but was too self-absorbed to just leave.

[thehollowprince]

This is just your casual reminder that the Jedi were not the bad guys, they weren't morally or philosophically in the wrong, and they certainly didn't do anything to deserve what happened to them.

[starbeltconstellation]

Helloooo, to all SW fans! 👋

Sooo, I have decided to make this like a… monthly? 🤔🤔 Reblog, to search for other like minded pro Jedi individuals like myself in the SW fandom, so I can find more of my little fandom corner.

So! 😁 I humbly ask those that are Pro Jedi, and do NOT blame them for their own genocide (🤦‍♀️🤢🥶) to reblog or like this post, so I can follow more SW fandom blogs.

I also would follow fans who are Anakin critical/anti Anakin. Although I’m more of a pro Jedi fan who still has sympathy and SO much love for Anakin’s character (🥲💔❤️), while still realizing the fault lies with himself, I also enjoy reading a lot of critical analysis on his character too.

But any Anakin fans who love him to death like me and aren’t afraid to hear criticism are welcome to like this post too! ❤️

The same goes with pro Jedi/pro clone blogs. The Jedi are my ultimate favorite blorbos, but the clones are also so very dear to me, and I love to read headcanons about them. 💕

Hopefully this isn’t a weird post. Lol. 😅🫣😂 I just thought this was a good way to expand outward into more fandom territory.

Thanks! 😜💕❤️✨

[sonic-fairyspell]

Some Star Wars Memes I made.

[nerdpickle]

Feel Free to explain yourselves in the comments, just remember, if you can’t take, don’t give

[the-pineapple-cake]

Why are so many time travel fics anti Jedi?

[jedijoanna]

And no one talks about the blanted kidnapping the Sith do. ..😩 the double standards

When a Jedi takes in a child, it's kidnapping. But when a Mandalorian does it, it's a foundling.

[mirrorofliterature]

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can look at the Council Scene in the Phantom Menace and think the Council were in the right

Jedi are supposed to be compassionate, right?

so where is there compassion for a recently freed former slave child, who has been separated from everything he ever knew, including his mum who is still in great danger as a slave, after risking his life for people he just met?

like. the council scene is supposed to show how set in their ways the jedi council has become in the prequel trilogy.

they look at a scared child and reject him for being scared because they judge him by the standards of a child raised in the temple.

it is callous, unempathetic and apathetic.

do you know how tiny and vulnerable nine year olds are?

they rejected a nine year old for factors completely out of his control and shunted him off to a war zone because he didn't have enough trauma already.

this is what I mean when I say the PT Jedi order is flawed

I want the Jedi Order to do better! I wish they had learned from their mistakes and treated Anakin with compassion instead of callousness, but canonically that's what they did.

now, if the 'jedi never did anything wrong' can excuse the council's treatment of a child in phantom menace, they are viewing the movie through a heavily biased lens and are blatantly ignoring blaring red flags

a jedi should be compassionate.

they were inflexible and rigid, adhered to conventions that where nowhere in their actual code.

not one of them asked why anakin was scared, or why he came to coruscant, or why his parents had given him up, or even bothered to learn about the huge sacrifice he made.

anakin is at his best self in PM.

it's a tragedy for a reason.

[short-wooloo]

A lot of people seem to have the idea that the point of SW is that Jedi are not automatically good

No

The Jedi are good, full stop, end of discussion

But

Its not that being a Jedi is what makes you good

It's that being good is what makes you a Jedi

To be a Jedi is to choose good, you can't be a Jedi if you're not choosing good, and if you're choosing good you're choosing to be a Jedi

[vintageseawitch]

"omg i didn't know this book was based off a REYLO fanfic waaaah i don't like that 😭😭"

[jedijoanna]

I wish the Jedi could just disappear somewhere safe, happy, respected, and appreciated. The galaxy did not deserve them, and it suffered without them. 

I was reading (watching?) somewhere that as the clone wars progressed, the Jedi were beginning to lose their connection to the Force. And I cannot even begin to understand how terrifying and devastating that was for them.

I can't even imagine.

This thing that has guided them all their lives is suddenly disappearing. Their connection to their culture and their livelihood is being taken from them, and they can't put their finger on why.

The amount of confusion, fear, and anger Mace himself must have been feeling due to this makes me so sad for him. Because i'm sure a good number of it was directed at himself and his situation.

And it turns out he was right all along about who it was coming from, and was powerless to stop it.

(I think alot about how the Jedi put Anakin up on a pedestal of privilege, but it makes me sad to know they gave him everything they had and he still chose evil over them. That he toyed with them, and their connection to the Force. That he got to be the Chosen One while others arguably deserved it more)

And still, Mace died because he chose the path of the Jedi, and trusted the Force even when the Force was being shielded from him, because he still gave Anakin a chance

[thehollowprince]

I didn't even open it, because it's Screenrant, but I'd just like to say the Jedi Council didn't need to be redeemed because they didn't do anything wrong. Thank you and good day.

[reyturnofbensolo]

"In the fan art I've seen, there's a good amount that implies... something between Osha and the Stranger," he says. "That's something that people, I think, have been yearning for in this genre, or at least in this IP, and I love that people are honing in on it and encouraging it. So I think people can look forward to more of that, possibly. If people want it, we can explore that subsequent season."-Manny Jacinto

The Acolyte bts!

[sonic-fairyspell]

Palpatine and the Empire: The Jedi Order steals children!!!! Also Palpatine and the Empire: stealing the Force Sensitive children

[flibbertyjibbett]

especially with the jango thing…ive read fics that use this sentiment to make jango more sympathetic. and i admit i havent read the galidraan comics, but the same fics seem to gloss over how jango is there to kill a bunch of political dissidents for the governor of galidraan. who is in league with death watch. so if “blindly” trusting the senate makes jedi the bad guys, then what does that make jango?? and how a bounty hunter is more noble than literal monks sworn to protect others with their lives, i cant even imagine.

i still enjoy jango fics though

I never, ever say the Jedi were flawed, and here's why.

It's not because I don't think people can BE flawed, or that I don't think GOOD people can be flawed, of course they can. Even people who are genuinely doing good things and making good choices and trying their best to be selfless and kind and compassionate can make mistakes and have a bad day.

But there's really only two reasons I see anybody bring up "the Jedi were flawed."

The first is from Jedi fans who are trying to stave off the Stanakins and the anti Jedi crowd by adding that in as a disclaimer. "OF COURSE the Jedi are flawed, but it doesn't mean they aren't good people!" It's a meaningless statement because the side saying it doesn't even really believe it to be true and the side they're saying it TO thinks the Jedi being flawed means they all deserved to die. This is the kind of statement that leads to people deciding that individual Jedi are okay but their culture needs to be completely reformed in order to allow people like Anakin to just do whatever they want whenever they want and then they can all live.

The second is from people who DON'T really like the Jedi much and will insist that "the Jedi are flawed" is part of the whole point of the narrative of Star Wars, especially the prequels. This is the kind of statement that leads to people like Leslye Headland INSISTING that George Lucas intended for the story of the Jedi to be one of failure and criticism and casting the Jedi as "the evil institution" in her interpretation of Star Wars. This is what leads to stories like the Ahsoka show insisting that the Jedi were elitist bastards whose arrogance led to their own genocide. These people usually try to claim they like the Jedi, but they'll still cast the Jedi as the bad guys in the story instead of, say, Anakin. These are the people who genuinely have no idea what attachment is and don't care to learn. These people believe that, at best, the Jedi THOUGHT they were doing good, but that they had completely lost their way and were truly not that much better than the Sith anymore and their destruction was necessary to create balance in the galaxy.

I have no desire to appease people who don't like my interpretation of Star Wars, and I don't think that "the Jedi were flawed" was ever the point of Lucas's story and I genuinely think it takes a lot AWAY from his story to say that it does. So while I am perfectly happy to admit that people in general, even overall GOOD and kind and selfless people, are always flawed and can make mistakes, I will never, ever say that the Jedi were flawed. The Jedi lost, yes, but not due to their own flaws. They lost because of EVERYONE ELSE'S flaws, so what does it MATTER if the Jedi were flawed or not? If you truly believe the Jedi were good people who did everything right and simply lost due to other people's selfish choices, then what does it add to the story to insist the Jedi were flawed? How does it change anything, for the better or otherwise? The Jedi were right IS the point of the story, so insisting they were flawed actually takes away from that by distracting from how the Jedi were RIGHT, and it's people choosing not to listen to them or trust them or act like them that brings about the downfall of an entire galaxy.

The Jedi weren't flawed. The Jedi were RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING and that is the hill I will die on.