#prince in the tower

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Tim Thornton: This is one of the fascinating areas we have recently explored, especially in our understanding of the reign of Henry VII. I think there is a rather hasty solution, which is that Henry ascended to the throne and launched a comprehensive and detailed propaganda campaign to damage Richard's reputation, based on a detailed description of what happened during the Battle of Bosworth Field in August 1485. This is completely opposite to what happened. Henry deliberately avoided introducing the specific circumstances that occurred before he seized the throne. One of the reasons is that he inherited a political country that experienced extraordinary political turmoil, with the king inheriting the king and the regime inheriting the regime.

In Henry's position, this is a wise approach. Attacking the former regime in detail means attacking many people who are becoming increasingly prominent in his own regime. What he did was to attack past evil in a very abstract form, which was identified as Richard's rather abstract personification. This is a very cunning approach.

I think it can also be explained that the relatives and friends of the prince in the tower have never announced that Warbeck is a counterfeiter (whether it is Elizabeth of York and her mother, sister, or the minister who has met Richard, the Duke of York). Warbeck's supporters are rulers from all over Europe. They support the rebellion for the sake of interests, and refutation will not end their rebellion, but will strengthen the hostility between the English royal family and the European rulers (Warbeck may accuse his sisters of betraying their brothers for the sake of interests, and they will smear each other...). This is not conducive to the rule of the new Tudor dynasty.

As long as the Tudor dynasty blurs all of this, they can continue to peacefully cooperate with European rulers on the premise of the capture or death of Wobek (we can recall how Henry VII and Maximilian falsely attributed the mistake to Margaret of York and continued negotiations after the Lambert Rebellion)

If Elizabeth of York declares that Warbeck is not her brother, will Maximilian, James IV, really stop funding the rebellion? If that's the case, it would be difficult for them to pretend to be deceived and marry England after everything is over.

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Also I just listened a refreshing interview by the writer of the podcast “A Prince in the Tower” which is a drama about how Perkin Warbeck was totally Richard of York, one of the princes, and how Richard III and Margaret Beaufort worked together to kill them but Richard III chickened out and only killed the older one and a bunch of other convoluted things

And during the interview when asked about the historical accuracy and what sources she used, the podcast’s writer pretty much just said “I made it up :) I went with what made a better story” and she just talked about her writing process

And!! Wow! Did I appreciate that! No “well it’s accurate, I tried to do my best in respect to the sources” no “any historian who disagrees with me is a poo poo baby” just very “Being a dramatist and an historian are different fields :) I wanted to tell a story so I did what was best for the story”

Holy hell, thank you

That’s all I ask

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they're such little freaks i love them

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I think it would be funny in Alecto, if we spend more time on the Ninth, for the great aunts to, very affectedly, inform Harrow of her parents' passing during their silent practice to which Harrow barelly even manages to act either surprised or mournful (while Kiriona has a fit of laughter nearby).

"And that makes you, Reverend Daughter Harrowhark Nonagesimus, our 311th Reverend Mother."

Freshly out of Hell and still dazed by whatever happend post tomb opening, Reverend Mother Harrowhark Nonagesimus, can urge no other reaction out of her but a slightly out of breath, shamefully informal "Ok."

Cue a pleathoa of mom jokes that everybody seems to get into.

"Reverend- forgive me Harrowhark, I cannot in good faith look at your face and call you-"

"Then please don't. Thank you, Paul."

"Oh, mother!" ejaculates Ianthe at her every movement.

"Oh, sorry mommy", Kiriona is already begging for it.

Worst things worst she is still, functionally, the last person ever born on the Ninth.

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Was browsing on Pintrest and found this vintage cover for a (what I am assuming) pulp fiction novel. Immediately, my brain went: Tower Princes. This was a lot of fun, I just gave up on the background.

Original image below the break:

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Ambarussa art based on The Two Princes Edward and Richard in the Tower by Sir John Everett Millais.

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necromancy puns

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tamsyn muir seeing the draco in leather pants trope and deciding not only to write a hot lesbian version but also make her complex and interesting instead of just regular boring evil was objectively one of the top ten sexiest things tlt has achieved

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"the tower princes are so hot" bitch--

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two b-list sons of God and a second-rate resurrection

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Regarding my opinion on why Henry VII did not issue a statement proving the death of the Prince of the Tower if Tyrell's testimony was true: 1. When James' testimony was recorded, Arthur had already passed away and Queen Elizabeth confirmed her pregnancy shortly afterwards, but of course, they decided to have another child after Arthur's death

Arthur's death was a huge blow to Henry VII's rule, and at this time Suffolk was also in rebellion. My guess is that Henry VII may have initially hoped to announce it when Elizabeth of York successfully gave birth to a boy. This can effectively consolidate his rule and resist some anger and dissatisfaction that "Henry VII, as the brother-in-law of the Prince of the Tower, has been allowing the murderer to go unpunished，Even gave them good treatment"... However, Queen Elizabeth and Princess Catherine passed away together. According to Thomas More's records, at that time, some people hoped that the young Prince Henry would replace his father and join the conspiracy, and some also hoped that Buckingham or Suffolk would ascend to the throne. Henry VII may have thought that issuing a statement at this time would make the crowd even more dissatisfied, after all, they had several candidates who could replace the king (Moore's records also indicate that James did not know where the prince's body was, and there was no clear evidence to prove that the prince had died) (After years of rebellion in Warbeck, Henry may have a more optimistic view of whether his foreign enemies would have the next imposter. For places like Burgundy, supporting another imposter prince seems a bit absurd. Of course, if Henry's future rule really has the appearance of a imposter prince, I think he may release a confession...)

I believe that if the confession is true, Henry VII encountered the same dilemma as Richard III in 1483 in 1503- initially, announcing the death of the Prince of the Tower would lead to anger and dissatisfaction, but later, the rebels had a new choice and publicly declaring their rule was futile.

Of course, I have also read a saying that publicly disclosing the prince's body would lead to posthumous worship

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Had a thought

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Time to discuss drarry moment number 923074037286 in HBP. I think it's really notable how in the aftermath of Dumbledore's death Harry not only canonically doesn't feel angry at Draco at all despite feeling murderous rage towards Snape, but actually goes out of his way to recount events in a way that shifts blame away from Draco as much as possible.

First, Tonks asks how Dumbledore died and we get this bit:

"Snape killed him," said Harry. "I was there, I saw it. We arrived back on the Astronomy Tower because that's where the Mark was . . . Dumbledore was ill, he was weak, but I think he realized it was a trap when we heard footsteps running up the stairs. He immobilized me, I couldn't do anything, I was under the Invisibility Cloak -- and then Malfoy came through the door and disarmed him--" Hermione clapped her hands to her mouth and Ron groaned. Luna's mouth trembled. "-- more Death Eaters arrived -- and then Snape -- and Snape did it. The Avada Kedavra."

Harry says there was a trap but doesn't mention anything about it having been a trap planned and set by Draco.

He uses passive, distancing language that doesn't even make it clear whose footsteps they heard on the stairs or under what circumstances Draco disarmed Dumbledore.

He doesn't mention anything about Draco having been assigned to kill Dumbledore, and almost makes it sound like he could've just happened on them and disarmed Dumbledore as a reflex or even in self defense.

And then he doesn't say that Draco held Dumbledore there at bay for a while, instead leaving it ambiguous as to whether the other Death Eaters arrived right away on Draco's heels.

And that's it. That's all he says. He puts all the focus and blame on Snape. Only several pages later when McGonagall asks how the Death Eaters got in does Harry even explain about the Vanishing Cabinets. Specifically the text says:

[H]e explained, briefly, about the pair of Vanishing Cabinets and the magical pathway they formed.

Again we see the same passive, distancing language that we saw when Harry mentioned "footsteps" on the stairs but didn't clearly say whose. It says he explained about the cabinets rather than something like "he explained about Malfoy's treachery and his plan to use the pair of Vanishing Cabinets to let Death Eaters into the school."

Harry directs the focus away from Draco and Draco's intent and involvement. I'm not sure this is even on a conscious level. His words are mimicking what his mind and his emotions are doing.

When someone asks what Snape shouted to the other Death Eaters as he ran past we get this:

"He shouted, 'It's over,'" said Harry. "He'd done what he'd meant to do."

Harry says he'd done what he - Snape - meant to do. Not what Draco had meant to do. Or what they'd planned together. So once again we see that Harry avoids blaming Draco or even revealing his full role in what happened.

And then, most interestingly, not till later when he's alone with McGonagall does he reveal that Rosmerta is being controlled. And the way he recounts it is REALLY striking.

"There's one thing you should know before the Ministry gets here, though. Madam Rosmerta's under the Imperius Curse, she was helping Malfoy and the Death Eaters, that's how the necklace and the poisoned mead--"

Again the use of passive language. He says that she is under the Imperius Curse rather than that Draco put her under the Imperius curse. In fact, he avoids directly blaming Draco at all. Harry merely says that she has been put under the Imperius curse by someone and that she was forced to pass on the necklace and the poisoned mead, leaving it ambiguous who cursed her and on whose orders she did those things, thus shielding Draco from blame.

He only brings up Draco to say that Rosmerta had been helping him and the Death Eaters rather than that it was Draco specifically who was controlling her. Given that the use of an Unforgivable Curse carries a life sentence in Azkaban this phrasing is certainly interesting. And it means that if Rosmerta did not see who originally cursed her, she might not be able to say who forced her to help Draco or possibly even whose idea it was to send the necklace and the mead into the school. That would make Harry the only witness who could prove Draco's guilt, and seemingly he doesn't want to do that.

Also. Draco IS a Death Eater. Harry's known it since the beginning of the year. And yet he says "Malfoy and the Death Eaters," because without even realizing it, he mentally puts Draco in a different category.

And then the next time Harry thinks of Malfoy is when he's looking towards where Draco usually sits and thinking about how Crabbe and Goyle look "lonely" without him even though given the tensions between them that we see in books 6 and 7 it's almost certain that they don't miss him at all. It seems much more likely that Harry is actually projecting his own feelings. In this context we get this bit of internal narration:

His animosity was all for Snape, but he had not forgotten the fear in Malfoy's voice on that tower top, nor the fact that he had lowered his wand before the other Death Eaters arrived.

I mean just what? All? ALL of his animosity? Draco is the one who let Death Eaters into the castle. He disarmed Dumbledore, thus (seemingly) enabling Snape to kill him. He also got Bill permanently maimed (though he didn't intend for that to happen).

If Harry simply felt nothing for Draco but dislike I don't think these circumstances would put him in the best mindset to start empathizing with him. Harry has a temper. You'd think he'd disregard all the extenuating circumstances and blame Draco for Dumbledore's death too.

I mean this is some of his narration about Snape, for example:

"So when he arrived at the fight, he joined in on the Death Eaters' side?" asked Harry, who wanted every detail of Snape's duplicity and infamy, feverishly collecting more reasons to hate him, to swear vengeance.

But no. That's not how he feels about Draco at all. In fact after thinking about how his animosity is all for Snape and dwelling with pity and concern on how afraid Draco looked and how he had lowered his wand, Harry actually starts wondering where Draco is and worrying about him and about what Voldemort is "making" him do now.

Because despite their rivalry, there's more between Harry and Draco than simple dislike. Harry understands him deeply. And he's immediately ready to sympathize with him and to protect him.

For all that they are stranded on opposite sides of a brewing war, they also have things in common. Harry is drawn to Draco and he cares about him. He knows Draco isn't a murderer and he can't bring himself to even pretend to hate him anymore. He just wants him to be safe.

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they are picking the ugliest colors they can find for each other