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i checked the italian blind run that apparently is very popular in the IT community. and. was anyone.
so was anyone. was anyone going to tell me in this version dusknoir asks if his existence had value.
his line about saying with full sincerity that life is marvelous.
why didnt i hear of this until now i crave to know every little difference between translations so i can cry again and again over the same guy.
#i love all the other translations dont get me wrong#there hasnt been any new content of futuee trio in 10 years i need to sustain myself somehow#no but fr 'now that the end is approaching... i can say without hesiation... and#with full sincerity... life is wonderful'#hey localization team wtf#i like other translations where dusknoir specifically says hes not wavering up till the very end#that he lived#its concise yet unflinching. a state of fact. despite all the darkness that surrounded him and he tried to perpetuate#in the end he lived. his existence happened. thanks to grovyle he can embrace the life he had and let it go with no regrets#but this IT version where it feels a little more abstract and less individualistic doesnt turn me away either#it puts the focus a bit away from himself to make a more encompassing statement: life is wonderful#living is wonderful#i dont think its inherently better or worse. i appreciate the difference. i think celebi says sth similar afterwards too#btw i teared up while taking the screenshots thank you in the morning sun#btw x2 idk italian so thank god these structures were so close and similar to spanish and latin#pmd2#pmd dialogue
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#spinda#AAAHHHH YES!!! our belovèd spinda. from their café!!! probably one of my favorite minor characters from pmd sky#whom i don't even think was in the original explorers games. i think spinda's café was exclusive to sky. if i'm remembering correct#ly. or maybe that was shaymin village. i know shaymin village was for sure but maybe it was just that and not both of them. either way#have a delicious drink and allow the flower of conversation to bloom! i could quote spinda all day. he had “hopes and dreams” before toby#ever did. THAT'S ALSO like i had no idea what spinda's pronouns were. i kept trying to figure it out because i talked about him quite a lot‚#but no one in game ever talked about him. to mention his pronouns? turns out. there's ONE line of dialogue where the post office fucker in#shaymin village mentions him and calls him a he. i think that's the only time spinda is referred to in the third person with a pronoun#i believe it's when they're talking about like. how you can send gifts or whatever and pick up the characters' responses at spinda's café#which is still a really fucking good feature. of any video game. SEE WHAT I MEAN spinda and their café is just an incredibly good Thing#it's to the point where my home wifi network is named “Spinda's Café Wi-Fi” because i love it so much. so if you're ever runnin around#and you see a wifi network by that name… it might be me! you never know! or… it could be the real deal. the real spinda's café is somewhere#nearby…! ugh. i wish. i would go there immediately#not even to mention all the other shit about this pokémon that's really good. like that they never walk in straight lines or whatever#their little dance. it's just. huUGHKLJKAHJVDHJHDAJSVGD i love spinda. a nice pick-me-up after the underwhelmingness that was grumpig#shake it this way… shake it that way… and stir it all around… and it's done!
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just a random silly interaction
#pokemon#pkmn#art#doodle#pokemon mystery dungeon#pmd#zoroark#purrloin#pokemon oc#pmd ocs#pmd&d#i brought this up before but i have 4 non-game pmd ocs and all of them are dark-type lol#also i haven't drawn him in a hot minute so i don't think some people have seen faux lmao#anyways i cannot draw scale well when it comes to pokemon#i just try to draw whatever looks. somewhat right LOL#i'd also try to think of wittier dialogue but it's 2 am so maybe not pfft#(oc) vex#(oc) faux
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mooore. they are discussing.....
#i dont really know how to lay out dialogue properly i hope this works???#pokemon#darkrai#cresselia#pmd darkrai#two darkrais au#still think that name is lame ughhh#pmd au#anirritant art
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Do y’all ever think about what was going through Grovyle’s mind at the Passage of Time when he found out about the hero being his partner?🙂I do.
(Click for better quality! And please for the love of God notice the reflection in his eye that I spent far too much time on getting just right😭)
Time lapse below the cut:
#pokemon#pokemon mystery dungeon#pmd#pokemon mystery dungeon explorers#pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky#pmd eos#explorers of sky#pmd2#pmd 2#pmd explorers#my art#comic#grovyle#original character(s)#eevee#thinking about adding the time lapse maybe perhaps…I’m really really pleased with how this turned out#and I wanted to scrap it at first lol#I guess people know what they’re talking about when they say ‘trust the process’#yes the internal dialogue is from crystal crossing when he wrecked her shit#he’s regretting being so aggressive now
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ok so according to the prev poll it seems like you guys want me to post the pmd comic right here !! (does save me a lot of time coding a new tumblr for comic purposes and setting up CF ;w;)
so just wanted to share some parts/sketches from what I have so far
#this small (?) project is literally everything to me because I have loved pmd forever and the first comic I ever made was a pmd EOS comic#it was me and my best friend as pokemon and it was really silly I think only 12 pages that were horribly drawn and lost to time#oh and obviously the dialogue was crap but listen I was 8#pmd eos was p much my first real game… back in 2009 when u had the little ds you could play on the wall of Walmart game section…..#I was like mom I HAVE TO HAVE THIS#i started and restarted the game for the personality quiz so many times I wore out the cartridge and it’s kinda unplayable now#so I’m playing on Wii U (which is good for save states anyway bc god. thisgame is hard. idk how I beat it as an 8 yo)#anywayyyyyy enough sappy schmappy#persona 5#pmd#p5 pmd au#shuake#akeshu#goro akechi#akira kurusu#and all that
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yuppp the world is full of otters
#monified#trainer hilbert#sketches#his samurott design was posted a while ago (with alcides’). very messy but i have no desire to redraw it rn#pokemon bw#oshawott#dewott#gti au is based on me having this theory when i was like. 13 that the partner was intended to parallel n somehow#or ride his coattails. and then me playing through the game as hilbert. it got too real. the mc is way more of a real character#than other pmd games (has considerably more scripted dialogue [as opposed to options] and is just like. genuinely developed#like when they promise partner they’ll stay with partner forever and then immediately think to themselves ohhh god i shouldnt have done that#:( i shouldn’t promise them something i don’t know i can keep. etc.) and things got DIRE!!!
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The game is actually so wrong for this.
#pmd eos#I have so many feelings about this#do you think partner would get frustrated looking at the relic fragment after everything… and throwing it against the wall.#they solved the mystery but at what cost. their best friend? god.#anyways sorry about being emotional about the game that’s destroyed my life#I might make art based off this dialogue. argh.
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more toto and chimichang.. to put it bluntly they have bewitched my entire mind and soul
#my art#pokemon#pmd oc#toto#chimichang#comic#feraligatr#infernape#hero/partner#hero x partner#comic was done super lazy lol i wanted to do it tonight bc otherwise i knew i would never do it#u can tell im so inconsistent with how i draw them in the comic HAHAHSJSJ HIDES FOREVERRRR#btw if there’s a typo sorry i wrote it in spanish first and idk if one line of dialogue escapes the english lexicon#still testing out what their personalities are. yes i have drawn them all this time without knowing Knowing them. help.#man i wish festive days were forever. viva mexico cabrones
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got hit with the echo+sora brainrot so i am once more rambling in your askbox about it. because reasons.
anywho i think there is something truly saddening about echo's struggles to make peace within herself and how she truly finds it hard to find that peace when she is so certain that if the truth about her origins were to be revealed to the world, much less to *sora*, everything she achieved, everything she worked for, all of which matters to her most, will crumble away in a moment's notice.
but the fear of losing all your life's work is none compared to the fear of losing sora. the feeling of poison that settled itself within themselves and between each other out of fear and tragedy of what had happened to them is familiar. echo's resemblance to dusknoir was already enough to set the two off because of how much it had all hurt to see someone you love and yourself turn into a mockery and a splitting image of someone who had pretended to care yet showed he never did at all, but this poison is louder. it hurts to bare, to carry, and to have none but yourself to be its sole holder.
but this poison, this feeling of heartache is different. because whereas the previous pain was something both of them felt, sora was lucky enough to not have known the truth about the person who she cares for so dearly.
echo knows that she used to be darkrai. and it haunts her to have known that her previous incarnation was so *cruel*, all for the sake of it just feeling right. wishing to engulf an entire world in darkness, solely for whatever desire she used to have.
and for how much she knows, how much she will hammer it into her own head that she is *not* like that anymore, that she looks at her past with sneer and disgust and that she will not be the barer of evil anymore, it will not matter in the slightest when she will have to look at sora if she were to ever find out.
how afraid, angry and dejected she would look when finding out, and how she will go on the defense/offense because of how much this will overwhelm her.
because when echo looks at her own shadow, she sees herself for what she is. she knows what she is, be it out of shame or guilt.
but when sora will look at it, she will see a tall, contorting and menacing shadow, towering over with a bright cyan eye doing nothing but looking at her, as if tempting her to make the next move.
and she defends herself. from someone she knows will not harm her. she raises her arms up in self defense from a hand that would never hurt her more than the world has already did.
she knows echo will not hurt her. and thats why she is afraid.
Oh my oh my OH MY, Sinnoh!!! YES YES YES!
HOW!!! IN THE WORLD!!! Are you so good at crawling into my head and creating these vivid analysis/snippets on my OCs??? I've barely shared ANY information about Echo and Sora because I've been wanting to hoard most of my stuff for when my fic is finally finished... but... I think you've broken my resolve a bit, if I'm entirely honest.
You know what? I'm so inspired by your accuracy and eagerness to talk about my girls that I'm gonna forgo my crippling anxiety regarding my writing skills and instead post a snippet of my WIP fic here as a treat for you. A teaser, if you will. Since I have no idea when the fic in question will actually be done and ready (or when I will be satisfied with it, cause the thing is currently 36,000 words and still slowly climbing). And now you've got me eager to share SOMETHING of my fic with you and anyone that might want to take a peek at it.
Please enjoy this conversation between Dusknoir and Echo. The topic deals a lot with what you'd described up above!! c:
[Note: this is an unedited part of my fic because I am still in the process of writing and it may change in the future, so please be gentle w/ me but I'd love to read any thoughts/comments that pop up while reading!! pls send asks or replies or anything really cause I love you guys]
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“I’m going to tell you something now, and you are going to listen.” Echo commands with a sharp bite in her voice that Dusknoir cannot fathom ignoring. He pauses and then offers a slow nod, waiting, wondering what she could possibly desire to tell him at a time like this, of all things.
Minutes pass as Echo remains rooted in place, still as her own shadow, and her eyes dart around as she stares at the patches of dry grass and sand beneath her paws. Her claws clench and unclench, digging into the earth like daggers as the wind of the forest (it’s trees so close, just behind them, a looming sort of presence that could engulf them whole) whistles through the surrounding branches, carrying stray leaves of many bright greens through the chilling breeze. Dusknoir watches them dance around Echo, twirling, floating down, down, down… but it’s quiet, too quiet, and Dusknoir feels a shiver pass through him when Echo’s voice finally rings out through the silence.
"When I evolved, Sora was petrified," She says, nearly a whisper, an admission that melts away her confidence and appears to bring her a flood of both shame and regret. Her face twists up then, strangely, like she’d felt a twinge of pain from somewhere deep inside the very fabric of her own soul and was unable to quell it. "She couldn’t even bring herself to look at me most days. At first, my appearance… well, it reminded her too much of you. And eventually of someone I used to be.”
Someone I used to be. At that, Dusknoir’s immediate reaction is to recall Echo’s previous life as a human, as the miserable shell of a creature surviving alongside Grovyle that he’d relentlessly hunted in the dark future. A human made of contempt and anger and apathy, who never smiled or laughed or cried or screamed like the old legends said humans would-- an entity that simply existed rather than lived. An echo of a life long dead and buried. But, judging by her tone, by her voice, by some uneasy intuition itching in the back of his mind like a swarm of pestilent Ninjask… he knows that she means something else entirely. Something that she isn’t willing to share. And frankly, that concept utterly terrifies him.
Someone I used to be. Dusknoir wants to speak, to break his own silence, wants to ask the myriad of questions bubbling up in his throat because this isn't the first time she's hinted at another life beyond being human, but those questions die at the source like a flame doused in water. And always the coward, coward, coward, instead he takes the easy way out by doing nothing at all. Whether Echo notices his surge of inner conflict or not-- the nervous wring of his hands and the tremble in his spine that he cannot control under her gaze-- she does not react.
“I’d take a step and Sora would flinch away.” Echo confesses, her markings flickering with light before going dark and dead, as if her body wished to snuff them out entirely, a deep seated rejection, a self-loathing so strong that Dusknoir cannot help but recognize it and empathize, and his heart aches, “It took ages for her to stop shaking when I’d speak. To stop looking at me like-- like I was going to…”
Echo grimaces like she’s enduring waves of grueling torture and doesn’t finish that string of thought, but it’s not hard to make an educated guess on what went unsaid. Like I was going to betray her. Hurt her. Break her heart. She’s been through so much already and I couldn’t bear to be another influence in the history of her suffering. I hate myself because of how I made her feel. When her eyes went wide in fear and through them I could see myself staring back like some sort of burden, some sort of curse.
“I am not my past.” Proud and true, Echo straightens up and holds her head high, a spark igniting in her eyes, a glint of determination, a will to keep going and going despite such circumstances and strife, despite this horrid, unspeakable past that haunts her so, “And I am definitely not you. It’s taken a while, but I know that much now. I’ve accepted it.”
I am not my past. And I am definitely not you.
A sigh, a breath, and Echo glances at him with a certain sorrow that cannot be described, a sorrow that lingers even through the veil of her tenacity, "But no matter how I feel, no matter my conviction, my shadows still find ways through the cracks. Every time I think I'm getting a grip and that I might finally understand myself… I change all over again." She admits, sounding more angry and tired than defeated now-- like a mirror of her old self, her human self that had clawed and damned and cursed him, despised him more than anything. "I hate it. I hate that I never truly know who I am. That I have to learn about my past through stories others tell me, or through fragments of twisted, broken memories that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Through conflict and pain and… and..."
"Echo," Dusknoir murmurs her name softly, an offering, a potential escape if only she would wish to drop the subject and forget this conversation had ever happened-- if she'd overstepped and needed an excuse to back out, a diversion, an understanding. And briefly, Dusknoir wonders why she is opening up about this particular information, why she would delve into something so vulnerable, so personal. Why she would bring up this hurtful history when it obviously brings her great discomfort.
And then, he gets an answer.
“You’re lucky, Dusknoir." There it is, that wildfire burning in her eyes again. A spark that’s new and bold and startling. But lucky? No, never. He'd have to disagree, accounting the mountain of evidence that was his life and regrettable deeds.
"You already know exactly who you are and what you’ve done, and most importantly why. You have more than a tattered picture of yourself that reflects broken answers. And you can change with that knowledge. I see you trying.” She tells him, searching, looking for something so deeply and Dusknoir wishes he knew what it could be so that he could give it to her, because he would, he would gladly give it to her without a second thought if it meant they could be close again. But he isn’t a fool, and he’s wise enough to know they’ll never be like they were before. “And if somehow I could change, even as half-assed as I have. Well, then what’s your excuse?”
You can do it, say her unspoken words, I believe in you.
#Sinnoh I have so many Echo and Sora feels right now and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT HOW DO I COPE#like... i am so amazed with what you wrote in this ask i honestly don't even know HOW to reply because I'm stunned it's so perfect#my fic is from Dusknoir's POV and explores his relationship with Grovyle and Celebi and also his reconciliation with Echo and Sora#just stating that for anyone who hasn't seen my previous post about my WIP fic cause that was like... more than 6 months ago#I am... really REALLY nervous posting this because Dusknoir is very beloved by the community and I wanna do him justice#and there are SO many amazing writers amongst my mutuals and I wanna be a COOL KID like you guys#I realize this snippet is mostly just about Echo and that Dusknoir has no actual dialogue... (even tho he talks A LOT in the fic)#but the portions of Dusknoir's thoughts and descriptions I want to GET RIGHT the vibes need to be ACCURATE#(pls tell me the vibes are accurate)#note: he is majorly nervous rn tho cause he and Echo have not fully reconciled and he's TRYING to listen and be there for her now#(insert his attempt at dadnoir; he's giving it a shot guys)#Meanwhile Echo is dealing with BIG TIME problems and regrets and guilt cause Dusknoir returning to the past resurfaced all of that grief#Me; the writer; knowing that the truth about Echo's past would mess up Dusknoir for YEARS: oh my idiot ghost dad... you have NO idea bro#echo/umbreon#sora/lucario#pmd ocs#dusknoir#pmd eos#pmd2#wip fic#Yes I have a fic title but I'm not sharing it cause it's spoilers ok
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Needed to compile some npcs slandering grovyle and praying for his downfall.
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#ahh‚ the other half of team tasty. the ever-so-ravenous subject of wurmple's endless fear#swellow#i've already talked at length about how much i love team tasty but this is Literally the team tasty Guy this is Him!! it's the Dude!!#ugh every team had like. goals‚ didn't they? and bulbapedia lists their goals. i remember 'cause team meanies just said cause trouble#or something like that. fuck lemme go look#okay no team meanies was “wealth and world domination” fine#DAMN team tasty's purpose is unknown. i thought there would be SOME subtext in the game with how much dialogue they have#i'm gonna have to replay pmd sky all over again just so i can closely follow these two's story down to a fuckin tee#i gotta keep a very close eye on these dudes next time i play it. but. i'm gonna finish totk first because holy shit#i love that game. a lot. i've been playing it like all day the past few days after work#fellow totkers rise up. this is not a zelda blog it's a pokémon blog#here's swellow
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We ought to write more Pokemon fic some time. We want to recreate the Pokemon Manners/Human Manners cheat sheet that we made a few years ago we think that this site would like the Sliding Scale Of Politeness When Greeting A New Pokemon You've Never Met Before.
#we speak#writing#we grew up with pmd games and we feel like the way that pmd pokemon's dialogue tends to be excessively... direct?#should be a feature and not a bug when any pokemon that you meet might be totally unfamiliar with your species and biology#it's probably very polite to start up front with some basic facts about yourself so they know how to act going forward#the very upfront feel to dialogue also very much helps with keeping the dialogue feel more... pokemon#people mock the series for weird npc dialogue a lot but we think that taking these things literally makes for more fun society building#it doesn't all have to fit with socially acceptable for our world we think. polite in our world isn't even consistent by household.#sometimes a polite interaction sounds like “hello! i'm poochyena! i like to chase people and bite!”#name and immediately socially useful information. now you know about the chasing people and biting so you don't assume it's rude#of course poochyena bites and chases people. it likes to do that. you can say you don't like that and it might stop doing that to You#but it will not stop biting and chasing people because that's what it likes to do and it will probably only befriend people okay with that#it makes a very specific dialogue feel that's very fun to do. we like how the pokemon world tends to treat any sort of like#disability or “weird” things as something that you just say out the gate and everyones like “oh okay”#and then treat that as Part Of Interactions going forwards. there are a surprising amount of parts of the pokemon manga#that are dedicated to working around a character's disability after one or all of their means of dealing with it get taken out#admittedly we aren't that caught up on newer content but we find the way that it tends to be just Accepted as very refreshing#making the dialogue this direct does also tend to make it read as more “childish” in english and particular because a lot of Maturity's jus#learning how to dance around what you're saying or phrase it in different ways to get your idea across differently#whereas here everything is just as direct as possible. “i don't like charmander”. “i like roasting berries”. “i want to dig things up”.#all pokemon dialogue tends to go towards being exceedingly simple and it makes for some very distinct writing#especially when you have to tackle complex situations with characters who probably dont employ that sort of vocabulary#though we personally enjoy doing this sort of stuff your mileage may vary ofc#we are biased towards this sort of thins because we find it MUCH more fun to build up what we're talking about from blocks#than to like. try and use more indirect wording that may lose things in translation#unfortunately this is not fun in irl conversation. everyone has to be on the same page and you need to use the same playbook to communicate#we REALLY wish people said what they meant though. we're really tired of being asked shit like “is this accessible”#when what they mean is “can you climb these stairs” a question which depends on the day our energy level and how things have been going#there are a lot of things we could say that would make us feel like some sort of anti sjw type guy and a lot of em boil down to just#"for the love of god dont dance around a Sensitive Topic just get to the point and ask us about it this just makes things harder for everyo
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unlocking my ability to draw fanart again is like ive opened pandoras box this is hell im way too busy to have more than one focus at a time. im sorry my ocs. <- really really wants to draw shadow the hedgehog. other things too but mostly that.
#ive gone ahead and drawn my pmd ocs properly for the first time in years after the pmd red nso announcement#so keep ur eyes peeled for that tomorrow#and i wanna draw more stuff for hazeclan and reboot it to be more generic 'animals of farthing wood' rather than specifically warriorcats#and im coming up on the big arc of purrgatorio where i introduce the other half of cliffside#AND i have like two fuckin other goddamn sifloop socratic dialogues scripted#ANNND i have the killshot to surgically remove from my overlong isiloops comic since otherwise its not gonna get finished#and like 2-3 other isat things i need to find a way to package up and boot out the door#and then theres my rain world playthrough and its doodles#and fucking gravity falls rearing its head again. then i have my nitw replay and homestuck reread#AAAAAND I HAVE UNIVERSITY STARTING BACK UP IN LIKE LESS THAN A MONTH. AUUUUGG IM SO BUSY#AND I HAVE THE DEN-POW SPRITES TO MAKE. AND THE PENNE OF PERIL ENEMIES TO DESIGN. AND THE AMVS AND THE#you get the picture#lucabytetalks
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*posts and runs*
Here is my canon rescue team! Transcripts of the text in case you can’t read my chicken-scratch:
Tree:
Shy as hell
Doesn’t talk a lot
A total doormat
Very astute, perceptive, and knowledgeable, though
Mommy Issues™️
Eve:
Dumb as hell
[Half-star] IQ energy
Stresses Tree the hell out by being unobservant and leaping before looking (sometimes literally)
Will throw hands to protect him with her life, though
Eats anything
Chika:
Gentle giant
Do NOT fuck with her team, though
Will Solar Beam the shit out of you at any given moment
The Mom Friend™️ of the gang; very organized, cautious, and protective
Will forgive anyone but will NEVER forget
Ty:
Human-turned-Pokemon
Perpetually tired
Is Done™️ with the saving-the-world bullshit
Strongest Poke of the bunch if pressed
Very considerate and concerned about his team’s safety always
#fisara’s scrawlings#mine#my art#pokemon#pmd#pokemon mystery dungeon#pmd rt#rescue team#pokemon mystery dungeon rescue team#Sceptile/Tree#Vaporeon/Eve#Meganium/Chika#Typhlosion/Ty#original character(s)#pmd1#pmd 1#why oh why did tumblr ruin the quality😭#I also just realized the shadow cuts through the dialogue box#fml
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still obsessed with dusknoir’s gay little star trek reference
#anyway. pmd2 remake where everything is the same except dusknoir is constantly using star trek references in his dialogue#pmd shitposting
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